User talk:CJ/Archive 12

Rmv troll thread
Thanks. I copped some blowback when I removed the last one, and Longhair said he wouldn't have minded if it stayed there, so I decided not to do so this time. But I was hoping someone else would. Hesperian 01:38, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * It was perfectly removable under banning policy anyways.--cj | talk 02:03, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Perth article
Hi, I was just wondering why you removed the sister cities section in the article about Perth, WA. Are the sister cities only for the City Of Perth, or do the encompass the entire area from Joondalup to Armadale? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by I like Radiohead (talk • contribs) 13:37, 17 November 2006.
 * Yes, sister cities are established by individual LGAs. I have transferred the list to the City of Perth article.--cj | talk 04:14, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for correcting my error at Template:WP Australia. They are not my strong suit. :)SauliH 06:09, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

User:Mister Jinxy
Hi, I hope it's alright posting this. Could you help do something about the user Jinxy, please? Not only did he attack various edits to the Abbie Cornish article (see page history) - but take a look at my talkpage, his talkpage and both the talkpage and user page for 124.177.248.52. Yamla tried to warn him on his talkpage; the response beneath was full of flame-baiting about me being a "kid" and "Wikipedians [who] don't know jack about jack, but because they think they know the rules of the game they have no problem being impudent to their betters." He really needs another warning, or even a temporary block, because he's not going to stop being uncivil of his own accord, whether the rudeness is directed towards me or someone else. Thank you! :-) misanthrope 16:01, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
 * At this point, I think it would be best to move on. Blocks are not punitive, only preventative, so it would be inappropriate for me to institute one after-the-fact. Furthermore, his indignation aside, he has recieved the warnings; any additional ones are likely only to inflame things. I will keep an eye on his contributions to see if he is persistently incivil, and if so, will step in. If you have any further issues with Jinxy, or other users, please let me know. Thanks, --cj | talk 08:08, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Awesome. Thank you. misanthrope 09:53, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Blargh, now he's throwing my name and yours around, accusing us of "vandalising" articles he's contributed to. See here and here. I'm getting more than a little sick of the flame-baiting and incivility - and I have a sneaking suspicion that whenever someone calls him on something from now on, I'll get the blame for it. I know you've tried discussing it with him on his talkpage, but all he's doing is deleting your contributions. misanthrope 10:39, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Gn
Per what you said here, would you care to be involved in this? Hesperian 05:34, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Very much so. I'll add a statement tonight.--cj | talk 07:40, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * He's expressed a preference to wait until Banksia integrifolia has gone through WP:FAC. Hesperian 12:42, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Socks or not
Hi Netsnipe. I noticed you had been dealing with sock puppets of banned User:Fredguy. I believe the following accounts to also be his: Almost all of these have interesting associations with User:Kelvin Williams. What do you think? Thanks, --cj | talk 09:11, 18 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I'm starting to believe that Kelvin Williams (talk • contribs) is a sockpuppet of Fredguy (talk • contribs) himself. It looks like he's creating a whole sockpuppet army again by having Kelvin "welcome" all his other socks. Note that Kelvin hasn't made many edits to the encyclopedia itself and seems to be mainly obsessed with his userpage much like Fredguy was. I'm guessing he's even vandalising Kelvin's userpage with a few of his socks to boost his non-existent WP:RFA credentials. I'm going to send this to Checkuser. --  Netsnipe  ►  09:51, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I too think that is that case with User:Kelvin Williams – I just didn't want to say it first, lest I be wrong ;). It seems wise to get a checkuser on this. --cj | talk 12:33, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I've preemptively blocked all of the sockpuppets that I have strong suspicions over. What evidence is there that Jacktooisi is part of this circle? --  Netsnipe  ►  12:36, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * That account was created by Bryanna Yan.--cj | talk 12:40, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Re: Maritime history
Yeah - I can handle your suggestion - but look at the list of topics that we have thought about so far - User:Moondyne/Australian maritime history I think that  they might not fit easily with some of the history/history people.. oh well lets see! SatuSuro 11:35, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Clever edit summary ;). The project outline certainly looks comprehensive. Ultimately, I don't have any problem with the project going ahead – especially considering it proposes to remedy what is a gapping hole in Australian coverage. I just sometimes worry that Australian projects are becoming disparate. --cj | talk 12:25, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Part of the thing about doin the maritime history is just that - the articles belong in territory so disparate as the traid onionists and the lighthouse freaks probably dont understand they come under the same umbie at the barbie ..sigh SatuSuro 12:40, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Improvements to the Psychology portal
Hi, I'm working on trying to get Portal:Psychology up to Featured portal status. Any tips you can offer on how to improve it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Rfrisbietalk 16:09, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Gnangarra RFA
awaits your endorsement. Hesperian 05:52, 19 November 2006 (UTC) Thank you for the endorsement Gnangarra 08:27, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Your fair use Adelaide pics
Hey cj. I've replaced you FU pics on the Museum page and the aerial North Terrace picture from "Postcards" since I have taken my own pics and the policy mandates that we use free images wherever necessary. I took my camera on the way to uni one day and another excursion to Cleland (as part of a uni conference), and another sessions with the English cricket team at Adelaide Oval - So I think you can delete them now. I was giving you the courtesy of deleting them yourself. Anyway, I think we can start planning for the next meetup, and I guess we should fix it so that it works for the most heavy editors. Cheers, Blnguyen (bananabucket) 06:15, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I've been removing them when I've come across them, though I really ought to go through my logs and get rid of them all. In fact, I think I will do so now :). I saw your photos in Adelaide Oval – nice work! It'd be great for the Adelaide community to have another meet-up. I did say to Longhair (who lives in Mildura) that I would propose one for around about now, but I've left it be because many of us are busy with exams and because I will myself be unavailable for one for a while, as I'll be overseas from next week. I'm sure there are enough Adelaide editors interested in meeting up, so I say go ahead.--cj | talk 01:18, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

David Marr
Thanks for picking this up - - very careless of me!! Glad you spotted it. Jenny Wong 12:17, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
 * You're welcome.--cj | talk 12:40, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

DYK
Yeah, would you like to tee up an RfA for Bduke before you go overseas? I see that he is on your books. I also asked him in July and he said October would be a good time for him. In any case, enjoy the trip. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 23:35, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Improvements to the Education portal
Hi, I'm working on the Education Portal to get it up to featured status. As always, I look forward to your tips at its talk page. :-) Rfrisbietalk 06:44, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Australian Collaboration of the Fortnight
Hi. You voted for Australian Broadcasting Corporation as Australian Collaboration. It has been selected, so please help to improve it in any way you can. As nominator, you might like to add a todo list. Scott Davis Talk 13:58, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Already there :).--cj | talk 00:46, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Science portal
Okay, here's a big one! Please offer any feedback you have at its talk page on how to improve this portal to featured status. Thanks. Rfrisbietalk 14:46, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Portal:Chemistry
WikiProject Chemistry would like to see this portal attain featured status. If you have any tips, tricks or suggestions, please feel free to add them here! Thanks, riana_dzasta 05:41, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Edit summaries
Please use edit summaries. Especially if you're making accusations of somebody else, like in. Thank you. --MarSch 17:47, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
 * lol - maybe we could tell MarSch to do a few checks before he starts telling us about User:Jackp and his disruptive sock farm! latest sock appears to be User:RaptorRobot but fortunately he is just been midly annoying so far. regards --Merbabu 02:51, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Please find some important things to do. I'll use edit summaries when I feel like it.--cj | talk 15:15, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Featured portal star display problems
Hi, Ive noticed I can't see the Featured portal star on some portals, such as Portal:Photography. On others I can. It's helped when I moved some, but not others. For example, on photography, I moved it to the top and could see it in preview mode, but not when I saved it. I use IE6. Any thoughts on this? Rfrisbietalk 17:17, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't have time to look at this immediately, so you might need to find a remedy yourself. However, I would suggest that you compare featured portal with featured article; if the problem you experience with the former does not occur with the latter, it may be solved by copying the latter's format and altering as appropriate. Thanks,

Your input is requested
Your input would be appreciated at this Request for Comments. Kelly Martin (talk) 17:08, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
 * My comment "Perception is everything" is really all I have to say. I hope you can deduce my meaning. Best wishes, --cj | talk 19:42, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Australian Collaboration of the Fortnight again
Hi. You voted for Torres Strait Islanders as Australian Collaboration of the fortnight. It has been selected, so please help to improve it in any way you can. --Scott Davis Talk 14:33, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Portal Australia
Just a comment that I was pleasantly surprised to see my Dog on the Tuckerbox picture featured at Portal:Australia/Featured picture/Week 50, 2006 :-) Regards --Golden Wattle talk 22:16, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I hope you don't mind :). It's an iconic image. Thanks, --cj | talk 22:35, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

SA election FAC
G'day CJ, hope you're enjoying Sweden. The article on the recent state election is up for FA and I'm wondering if you'd be able to offer any comments or votes on it's page. Thanks, michael talk 14:46, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Portal review volunteers
Hi, based on your previous good deeds, please consider becoming one of the portal review volunteers and adding your name to the list. :-) Regards, Rfrisbietalk 18:42, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Re: Solicitation and other things
Cj - You concluded on my talk page that my 22:11, 22 November 2006 post to Rebecca violated Wikipedia's Spam guideline, assume good faith policy, and no personal attacks policy, as well as misrepresented administrator and former arbitrator Rebecca's "Actually, fuck this, I won't be intimidated by a psychopath" edit summary. Appropriateness of Your Post. Your post on my talk page gives the impression that it is from an unbiased, neutral administrator. However, you and Rebecca appear to have a close friendship and shared political beliefs about Australian politics, something you did not disclose in your post on my talk page. Rebecca is the third user listed on your user page, you and Rebecca were the fifth and sixth editors to be added to WikiProject Football (soccer) in Australia.  Within 24 hours of Rebecca's post to Newhoggy, you also posted to Newhoggy's talk page. You are familiar with administrator (sysop) Rebecca enough to refer to her as Bec. You joined the WikiProject Australian history 24 hours after Rebecca joined. You and Rebecca sided on numerous resolutions together regarding WikiProject Australian politics. Both you and Rebecca apparently share the same Australian political views  and corroborated together on the same Australian political articles. Your post on my talk page originated with Rebecca's conduct in an article about Australian politician Leisha Harvey. In addition to not disclosing your close friendship to and shared political beliefs with Rebecca as part of your post on my talk page, you made a permanent record of your administrative Wikipedia violation conclusions without first soliciting my input. Validity of Your Conclusions. '''(i) Wikipedia's Spam guideline. ' To reach your conclusion that I violated Wikipedia's Spam guideline, you apparently needed to mischaracterized my 22:11, 22 November 2006 post (vide'' contribs) as a content dispute. After editors Seraphimblade and Elonka, I was the third editor within a day and a half both to become concerned about Rebecca's conduct on Wikipedia and make such as post on her talk page under an existing thread called  Concerns. I was the twenty-first editor within a few months to both become concerned about Rebecca's conduct on Wikipedia and make such as post on her talk page. Rebecca's conduct had previously affected the 18 editors who took time away from their writing to post their concerns on Rebecca's talk page. Prior to my 22:11, 22 November 2006 post, Seraphimblade and Elonka had made the posted concerns of these 18 editors the subject of the  Concerns thread and made many of their Rebecca talk page posts the subject of the  Concerns thread. My alerting these 18 editors about the Concerns thread did not violated Wikipedia's Spam guideline. (ii) Vandalism, Assume good faith policy, No personal attacks  Rebecca indiscriminately deleted my numerous changes to the  Australian politician Leisha Harvey's article. The reasons for the removal of each content item was not readily apparent by examination of the content itself. Further, her sole justification for her intentional removal of legitimate content was a frivolous explanation in her edit summary. Rebecca indiscriminately deleted my numerous changes to the politician Leisha Harvey's article and left an impression that my edits were low, despicable by labeling my edits as worthless. My statements (diff, diff, diff) addressed the actions of Rebecca. Rebecca's actions constituted Vandalism. I did not violate Wikipedia assume good faith policy. My vandalism comments (diff, diff, diff) were not a personal attack. A review of comments on Rebecca's Wikipedia conduct prior to my 22:11, 22 November 2006 post, including and, bolsters these conclusions. (iii) Misrepresentation  The representation in my posts regarding administrator-and-former-arbitrator Rebecca's July 19, 2006 edit summary  -- Actually, fuck this, I won't be intimidated by a psychopath (diff, diff) -- was based on the text of that post July 19, 2006 edit summary. Your expectation that I should have represented her July 19, 2006 edit summary in the context that she identified on 23 November 2006 - five hours after I posted my 22 November 2006 post - is not reasonable.--Jreferee 01:44, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Apologies for my very belated reply.
 * I'm afraid your comment to me demonstrates, at best, a propensity to assume the worst in other people. Among your myriad accusations against me, the most perplexing was: "you made a permanent record of your administrative Wikipedia violation conclusions (sic) without first soliciting my input." I haven’t a clue what this is supposed to mean.
 * You appear to assume that my message to you was done with my administrator hat on; it was not. One doesn't need be an administrator to caution another user against behaving contrary to policy. Indeed, my status as a sysop is completely irrelevant here.
 * Furthermore, my editing relationship with Rebecca is entirely beside the point. Your diversion to this is an example of circumstantial ad hominem, and I won’t respond to it other than to say that it’s both baseless and offensive.
 * With that in mind, I’ll get to the actual issue. You claim that your posting to Rebecca was not a content dispute, and that it was mischaracterisation to say otherwise. I disagree. Your grievance concerned an edit war at Leisha Harvey; that you chose to break with wikiquette and make comment on the contributor, instead of just the content, does not change this. In any event, the nature of the dispute does not change the fact that you failed to follow Spam by soliciting 18 editors you knew to hold gripes against Rebecca. This was blatant canvassing, and rather like rousing a lynch mob; in other words, it was disruptive, and not the correct way to resolve a dispute. To quote the guideline: "Wikipedia editors are therefore not to engage in aggressive cross-posting in order to influence discussions".
 * Now, to the dispute itself. From Vandalism: "Vandalism is any addition, deletion, or change of content made in a deliberate attempt to compromise the integrity of Wikipedia." Rebecca’s reversion of your changes was clearly not this, so you had no reason ascribe malice and thus make a personal attack when you labelled her edit "vandalism" in the summary of your subsequent reversion. Instead, you should have challenged her revert and explained your changes on the article’s discussion page.
 * To the final qualm. My point was you should never have misused the quote in the first place; it was inappropriate for you to attempt to use an unrelated happenstance to further your complaint, especially when you were not even privy to it. Regardless, my call for an apology was not based on the circumstances of the misrepresentation, but for the misrepresentation itself. Whether you care to do so or not is not something I intend to push.
 * Thanks for your time, and sorry for the tardy response.--cj | talk 19:23, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Re: Similarities
I'm so vain. I probably think this username is about me? :) Check their contributions. I don't think I've attracted anyone of late. Sarah Ewart pointed it out to me just a few days back and I wasn't too fussed. They appear innocent. I haven't made it to Adelaide yet myself since moving here. Times does fly indeed, and much too much to do about the home. You're overseas now? -- Longhair\talk 22:34, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
 * No doubt the user is innocent. If you're cool with it, then so am I :). And yes, I'm overseas, with fingers crossed.--cj | talk 22:48, 17 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Check your email ;) -- Longhair\talk 22:54, 17 December 2006 (UTC)


 * I'm not too fussed (re above). I've been dealt worse in real life and brush it off like water on a ducks back these days :) One things for sure. I know my vandal fighting is having an impact if they're willing to go to that kind of effort to seek revenge. -- Longhair\talk 00:59, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Re Portal thingy
Yeah - as to whether maritime history ever feels subsidiary to history is another matter if you were to follow my trail recently I am trying to challenge some very weird ideas about maritime history within the whole of wikipedia - or water transport for that matter - so I wont argue or change the change that you did on the portal list - too many other threads to catch up on....  the relationships between some projects really do need a broom up the proverbial - but thats something later.... SatuSuro 23:51, 17 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Going backwards up on the wp western australia talk page notice the discussion - and will make sure that the maritime history project ties in with wp oz on the assessment issue - can see the importance of that! SatuSuro 01:09, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Notability of Thomas Jones
Dear Cyberjunkie, Notice that this guy's notability as a priest is probably higher than his activities as a mathematician. The guy obviously made an impact at his time, both as a priest & mathematician, as he has a bust erected at Trinity College and futhermore he made it into the Dictionary of National Biography. I am rather busy and need more time than just a week to tease out more notable details of his life. This week time limit does no allow the collaborative nature of wikipedia to work its magic. Best regards, bunix 20:20, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Trivia
Orangutan might be of note in this department - I was trying to discourage something last night and it kept going - it might be worth a squiz, but then maybe not... SatuSuro 22:48, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh hell as I wrote this the sorry saga continues, I think I am getting off for a while :( SatuSuro 22:51, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Interesting dispute. I don't think I can contribute anything there yet, but I'll keep an eye on it. Thanks,--cj | talk 23:19, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Orangutan
Ouch! Thanks... --Michael Johnson 23:02, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I never seriously thought it was ;-). I was just letting you know why I reverted. Happy editing, --cj | talk 23:04, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks
Heya. thanks for the message. It's good to be back, although I'm getting into it very slowly. For the time being I'm mainly just looking at contributing pictures from my trip to various articles (and wishing that I'd taken mare pictures!). No worries about the Lebanese Australian article. I'm feeling rested and refreshed and really don't feel like getting into any conflicts or disputes at the moment so I'm going to let it go for the time being. I hope you're enjoying your travels. -- Adz|talk 01:28, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Portal:Asia
I've responded to your comments on Wikipedia:Featured portal candidates/Portal:Asia/archive1.--TBC Φ talk?  04:43, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Portal help
Hello there. I've been looking after the selected articles at the Indonesian portal. Now that we are almost at the end of the year, I am curious as to what format the pages need to be in for Jan 2007. Is the page: AOTW/1%2C_2007 or AOTW/01%2C_2007? I also just put in AOTW/53%2C_2006 for good measure. Hope you can help. --Merbabu 11:23, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Hi Merbabu.  should just generate a single digit, so create it at Portal:Indonesia/AOTW/1, 2007. There shouldn't be a need for week 53. Of course, I've never rotated over into the new year, so what do I know... Happy editing, ;-)--cj | talk 23:33, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Ok thanks. I've used your suggestion and will wait and see what happens. Many thanks and Happy Christmas Merbabu 04:10, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Portal:History/Featured article/October, 2006
Time to unprotect? feydey 19:07, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Done.--cj | talk 17:29, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Australian Law Project
Why the AWB activation on all the Australian law project articles? MojoTas 03:15, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Because WPAL is obsolete with WP Australia.--cj | talk 17:30, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Portal name capitalization
I fixed all billion portal pages to "Business and economics" from "Business and Economics". Thanks again for pointing that out. =)  Nish kid 64  20:37, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Promoting Portal:Asia?
Merry Xmas Cyberjunkie! Thanks for asking before closing, but please do not promote the portal at this stage. There are many points I have addressed, which are not responded properly. There is need of some amount of work before promoting. Regards, Shyam  ( T / C ) 03:49, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I believe all of your actionable objections have been addressed (that is, objections made on the basis of criteria), and that the remainder of your comments are suggestions which could be pursured outside of Portal:Asia's candidacy. If you have any further comments to make or clarifications to those existing, I ask that you do so soon. As I said, I am eager to close this, both because I have left it open longer than I would usually prefer and that I no longer see any cause to keep it open. Thanks muchly, --cj | talk 14:12, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Kangaroo is new ACOTF
Merry Christmas. You voted for kangaroo as Australian collaboration. It has been selected, so please help to improve it towards featured article status. Thankyou. Scott Davis Talk 13:55, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Sister Cities
Hello, please note that the sister city program involves the whole capital of WA – Perth, not only the city of Perth. Please refer to the following are quoted from the City of Perth Website: text here

I think if only involve the city of Perth alone, it couldn’t provide the above. Especially, University linkages(there is no university loacated in city of Perth)!!!!--Alfeewusy 17:43, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't believe the text you cite supports your argument – it was merely a re-iteration of ASCA's broad guidelines. If anything, the webpage confirms that these sister cities are a City of Perth arrangement; sister cities are, in almost all Australian cases (Canberra being the notable exception), initiatives of local government entities. The City of Perth has no authority over the metropolitan area, and thus cannot make arrangements for it. Thanks,--cj | talk 18:38, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Tassie
A couple of us will be probably starting a new wiki project this weekend - Tasmania. I am alerting a few admins in case we make any mistake we might need hauling out of that particular mania... SatuSuro 01:18, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads up. I might feel obliged to start WikiProject South Australia soon to keep up with all you interstaters ;-).--cj | talk 01:20, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Comparisons to size of Texas
Hi. I compared some Australian state areas to Texas, all of which you reverted as irrelevant. Over forty years travelling to USA with my work I found huge lack of knowledge of our (and other) countries. US news usually compares other coutry's sizes to Texas or another of their states - very seldom to its actual area. Thought my references might help them understand the immensity of our states better than numbers. There are many such area comparisons throughout wikipedia articles. Notice you didn't delete a comparison to Sakha Republic under Western Australia. Rgds and Happy New Year

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tiddy (talk • contribs) 03:07, 28 December 2006 (UTC).
 * We don't cater for US audiences. The reference to Sakha is a different kettle of fish: it is not arbitrary. Thanks,--cj | talk 15:59, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Gold Coast, Queensland
I would just like make you aware that for most articles referring to the Gold Coast (Australia) will include Queensland in there article title. There are examples of this on the Gold Coast, Queensland article. I am only mentioning this as you have moved the Gold Coast Rapid Transit System, Queensland to Gold Coast Rapid Transit System and i wouldn't want you mistakenly changing this system over time as there are also many other Cities across the World with the same name Gold Coast. i think the Prefix Queensland should be continued for Gold Coast articles in Australia. L blue l 04:48, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually, it would seem that you are misinformed. The Queensland suffix derives from Naming conventions (places) and is required only for all town/suburb/city articles. Elsewhere, the general rules of Disambiguation apply, which requires a qualifier or clause (like ", Queensland", but typically in parentheses) only in instances of ambiguity. In the case of Gold Coast Rapid Transit System, there exists no ambiguity and thus no need for the Queensland suffix. Thanks, --cj | talk 16:11, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

WorkChoices
Regarding this diff, why did you think Work Choices was worthy of inclusion (at least temporarily)? So far as I can see, the legislation is in place and has survived a High Court challenge. That's about as finished a business as legislation can be. Whether or not the ALP makes opposition to the legislation part of their election platform (in much the same way as they did with their plan to Rollback the GST) is another matter entirely. Unsourced speculation, of course. --Pete 16:53, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Exactly. My line of thinking is irrelevant. Thanks,--cj | talk 19:15, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Cats sub page
The maritime project idea - do you think its worth showing how it all fits? SatuSuro 01:09, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I was just getting to that. I'm about to create Category:WikiProject Australian maritime history.--cj | talk 01:20, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
 * In case it wasnt obvious about what I was trying to do on the sub page - I was trying to map pre-existing water transport, military  and other category relationships so we didnt clash or create incompatible or incomprehensible relationships. I think...SatuSuro 01:38, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Please be patient with my limited comprehension - you;ve just created maritime history as a sub division of australian history - and these's nothing there - where did all the maritime stuff go or am i slow SatuSuro 01:45, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm in the process of adding it to related pages, as well as doing other things concurrently. It's a new category, but it will contain pages soon enough. I'm not concerned about the maritime history subpage, I'm just cleaning up Category:WikiProject Australia. Thanks,--cj | talk 01:51, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
 * OK i understand what youre doing now - I'll let you get on with it. BTW is there any practical or good reason for putting wp australia class=na on category pages? SatuSuro 01:53, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Not really. But it doesn't do any harm either.--cj | talk 01:55, 30 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Seeing you seem to maintain it (and I have made incorrect entries in it) - could you please sort out a  australian state project section in the portal box? SatuSuro 02:54, 30 December 2006 (UTC)