User talk:CL/Archive 1

Nothing I said was inaccurate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.113.158.242 (talk) 20:45, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

UT maps
Both done. Glad to be of help. —Scott5114↗ [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 19:45, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

USRD Newsletter - Issue 3

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FYI....
There were a couple of problems with your most recent changes to Utah State Route 68. I suggest you revert, or at least we discuss this.
 * 1) it is a violation of WP:MOS to put wikilinks in the section headings. This is the most important to fix, before a more militant editor starts hacking away at it.
 * 2) Also per the MOS section headings shouldn't be changed without reason, this has the potential to break internet and wikilinks to the article.
 * 3) Google Maps/Google Earth is not a good source for Major intersections, in this specific case. Google Maps for the Salt Lake City area does not show city limits and could not be used to determine which side of a city limit an intersection would fall on. There are also numerous errors with Google Maps. I found several just in my research for SR-201. The source used before (an atlas) was perfectly valid. I strongly doubt you actually used Google Maps as a source as the data required is simply not there.
 * 4) Using the junction templates only makes the coding easier, it is not a requirement to use them. If they cause problems (like the lack of support for references, when a reference is needed) they should not be used. In this case I would argue they should not be used, as sources were used for this table, but the templates do not support adding sources. In other words, as a rule of thumb, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Thanks for your help on Utah highways. I'm not trying to tear apart the quality of your work. Just pointing out a few problems with this most recent change. And again stating at a minimum the first should be fixed ASAP. Thanks again for you help. Please take this message in the spirit intended. Davemeistermoab (talk) 02:13, 27 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for not taking offense at that. I don't want to loose an editor =-). I'm not familiar with the capabilities of the Jct templates. I'm used to doing it oldschool. What you can do, is just replace template Jcttop with the column headers as they were before (manually created) and keep everything else. I've done that before.


 * As for sources. Udot has the official highway map in pdf format that is pretty good on their website. I use it, where I can on my more recent edits. I'd use that, because its both official and available on the web. I have Benchmark's atlas for Utah (if you couldn't have guessed) It's very good, although It also has a couple of errors (still showing old route numbers, etc.). I would be more than happy to look up any specific question. A print atlas is perfectly fine as a source.


 * Cheers Davemeistermoab (talk) 04:36, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
 * FYI, the map is here http://www.udot.utah.gov/main/f?p=100:pg:2117854713443240831::::V,T:,346 Davemeistermoab (talk) 02:58, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Just remember to state it something like "UDOT has proposed numbering this road SR-67." Then use the map as a source. The problem with Utah is the numbers are technically assigned by the legislature, so it isn't officially SR-67 until the law changes. With that said, from what I've seen the way it really works is UDOT does the work and the law catches up later.Davemeistermoab (talk) 01:23, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Also, yes, I stated a goal almost a year ago to get 2 articles to GA and 1 to FA. I've given up on one of the GA's due to the lack of reliable sources. But yes, It takes up most of my time. I hardly work on any other articles anymore. I intend to finish what I started, but after that I think I'll be happy with B class articles, much less bureaucracy. =-) Davemeistermoab (talk) 01:34, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
 * BTW, nice pics Davemeistermoab (talk) 02:16, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't put another pic on Utah State Route 128, it's pretty full. Now if you feel you have a better pic the one thats currently used, you're free to replace it. However, I think that one of the scenic byways sign would be a perfect addition to Utah Scenic Byways and if you don't add it, I will =-)Davemeistermoab (talk) 02:25, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Either or, your pic is definitely better than the one I put up. On my monitor it looks like that article could hold about 2 more pics. If you are going to edit the page I'd take out the 200px stuff for the existing images.Davemeistermoab (talk)

Your edits to Interstate 15
Hey, I saw your back and forth with User:TwinsMetsFan about weather US 95 in Las Vegas should or should not be in the major intersections list for I-15. Just so you know, The long interstate articles often get spammed with people adding every junction from their hometown. Unfortunately, this has caused many in the WP:USRD project to become very protective of them. It shouldn't be that way, but it is. I was privy to such an edit war myself a few years ago on the U.S. Route 50 page that got ugly (someone put US 93 at Ely as a major junction, which caused me to break out laughing). Anways, I've worked with TMF and have found him to be a reasonable editor. I would suggest to state your reasons on the talk page, and hopefully you two can work out a deal. It's been my experience that is the only way to get a junction changed for a border to border or coast to coast route. People just get too protective of them otherwise, for right or wrong.Davemeistermoab (talk) 05:20, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for cleaning up List of minor state routes in Utah. That was on my get around to it list, but I totally forgot about it. Well done. Dave (talk) 02:47, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I think if the page is empty, redirecting it to List of Utah state highways would be the best solution.Dave (talk) 03:00, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Dude, you're on fire these days. Way to go. FYI, you're not giving yourself enough credit. A "stub" is a short article (usually only a paragraph or two) that somebody freely admits is not much value in its current state. If you've got a route description, history, and major junctions guide, that's way more than a stub, either start or B class depending on how good of a mood the person who rates your article is. Most of these articles don't need the stub template on the page. =-) Dave (talk) 02:58, 24 April 2008 (UTC)


 * What I usually do is find somebody that currently editing articles and trade, I'll assess yours if you assess mine. You can request reassessment by putting the field |reassess=yes in the US road project template on the talk page, but it may sit for a few days until somebody checks Category:U.S. Roads project articles needing reassessment (which is what that flag does, lists the article in this category). Keep in mind that there are 2 different rating scales. Stub, Good Article and Featured Article are wikipedia wide ratings. Start, B and A, are additional grades used by the most wikiprojects, including the US Road Project. B is the highest rating a single person can assign, anything higher requires a review. More or less it works like this:

Cheers, Dave (talk) 05:10, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Stub: just a paragraph or two, only provides basic information, anybody wanting real information would need to do additional research
 * Start: Has sub headings, covers the basics, major claims and numbers are sourced.
 * B: The basic structure is in place for the wikiproject list of what a complete article should have. For U.S. Roads this means has a lead paragraph, route description, history, and major junctions list. Basic info is sourced.
 * GA: Well sourced, verifiable content, grammatically correct, stays on topic. etc.
 * A: Article is comprehensive (i.e. not likely to find more information from any other source) grammatically correct, has images, stable content.
 * FA: Judged to be one of the best articles on the subject anywhere, considered wikipedia's finest work.
 * Just use the reassessment flag, then leave me a message if I or anybody else hasn't answered in a few days. Another method to see if another editor is online and ask for a assessment is to use WP:IRC, which is a pain to get up and running, but works well once you get it running.Dave (talk) 02:05, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Re-promotion of Utah State Highways wikiproject
I have proposed resurrecting the Utah State Highways Wikiproject here Wikipedia talk:WikiProject U.S. Roads/Subprojects. I think the decision hinges on are the editors currently working on Utah road article planning to stay, or do we plan to move on to other interests (which is fine, just need to know how many plan to stick around). You've done some great work on Utah roads articles recently, if you would like to opine, please do so.Dave (talk) 05:47, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

USRD Newsletter, Issue 4

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Be careful with the history section
CountryLemonade, Great work again. Thanks for helping to create articles. One thing you might want to watch for, and I've caught myself doing it, too, so I'm not on a high horse here. In Utah State Route 171 the history says the following "When it was formed in 1935, it went from SR-1, present day Interstate 15," Interstate 15 didn't exist in 1935, it was built in the late 1960's. SR-1 would have been routed on state street, same as US-89 and (then) US-91.Dave (talk) 19:09, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Never mind, I get what you were trying to say. Sorry, I'm slow. I did tweak the wording a little though. again my apologies.Dave (talk) 19:23, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Infobox
Oops - you edited Template:Infobox road/Interstate shield, which Template:Infobox road/UT Interstate shield redirected to. I've fixed it. --NE2 21:49, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Have to admit, now that the template has changed, I like it. Good job. Dave (talk) 06:42, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Seal utah.png
Chick this out - Image:Seal utah.png  iDosh!  talk?  21:58, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

UTA TRAX
Hey, I never thought to add the section about beginning and ending stations underneath the city there! I like how it looks :). Keep up the good work. -- A dmrb♉ltz (t • c • [ log]) 03:19, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I get bored at work, and copy-paste is my friend :p. Though I approve of referencing all my data, I laugh at the ref sections of the station articles, how ridiculously long they look. --  A dmrb♉ltz (t • c • [ log]) 03:31, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * True, until you start to forget to change the piped links, and just change the part that shows, so you end up with Pleasant Grove. -- A dmrb♉ltz (t • c • [ log]) 03:35, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

You should see Help:Pipe trick; you can type Pleasant Grove, Utah (or SR-10 (UT) ) and get Pleasant Grove or SR-10 when saved. --NE2 03:53, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Wow, thanks NE2. I had no idea this existed. Cheers, CL — 03:56, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Rollback
Hello CountyLemonade, I have granted rollback rights to your account; the reason for this is that after a review of some of your contributions, I believe I can trust you to use rollback correctly by using it for its intended usage of reverting vandalism, and that you will not abuse it by reverting good-faith edits or to revert-war. For information on rollback, see New admin school/Rollback and Rollback feature. If you do not want rollback, just let me know, and I'll remove it. Good luck and thanks. Acalamari 20:19, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. :) Good luck. Acalamari 21:46, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Re: UT 269
Tonight - hopefully. I'm very busy this afternoon with Wiki and its a real pain. Mitch 32contribs 19:30, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Price photo
It's eastbound on SR-55; the junction sign and signal in the background is for SR-10. The visible business signs and roofs match that location. --NE2 03:51, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Congrats
Congrats on your first GA. Hope there's more to come =-). Dave (talk) 04:23, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for letting me know. I wasn't aware that the list had been updated. -- Kéiryn (talk) 16:25, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

SR-196
Thanks for the pointer on the history; I've added details to the article. --NE2 18:43, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Facility routes
Please see my proposal at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Utah State Highways; thank you. --NE2 11:10, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

==I would love you to use the picture! BTW it is in Price, Utah. I forget the state route though SG

WP:MOSDAB
There should be only one link per line; for instance on the link for I-15 shouldn't be there. --NE2 22:37, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

List of highways numbered x
I got an AWB regex working to add Utah to the lists. --NE2 23:09, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thanks for your help reassessing Washington and implementing C-class. I would have gotten around to it eventually, but I have no clue when. :-P -- Kéiryn (talk) 18:04, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
 * It's entirely up to you. Now you know how I feel... constantly getting sidetracked with projects. :-P -- Kéiryn (talk) 18:07, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks
Thank you for the barnstar.Dave (talk) 03:12, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Adams Avenue Parkway
Can you think of another 500 characters of main body text to add to it? I am trying to get a WP:DYK out of it, but I'm short some words... -- Admrb♉ltz (t • c • [ log]) 05:07, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Michigan reassessments
WP:MSHP hasn't decided to use C-Class. The usage of C-Class is optional at this time and we haven't decided on the parameters for using it. As such, I will be reverting your well-intentioned reassessments. Imzadi1979 (talk) 02:42, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Utah State Route 121 cleanup
I noticed that you cleaned up the intersection list in Utah State Route 121, changing name1 to name2. I didn't realize there was a difference. I'd like to understand the "standard usage" of templates and such that USRD has agreed on, so if you could fill me in, I'd appreciate it, and will incorporate it into future edits.

P.S. Thanks for the barnstar. You're right, it's very prestigious. DeFaultRyan (talk) 21:02, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

75.47's civility problems on commons
75.47 has been deelting messages I post on ltljltlj's talkpage. This is consider as personal attack and damages communities. This doesn't matter if he likes me or not he still have to stay cool. I pot it on ltljltlj's talk page because he log back oftens at Commons than at Wiki. Can you warn him on Commosns not to do this?-- Freewayguy Call? Fish 01:02, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Sockpuppet case involving 75.47.*
See Suspected sock puppets/Artisol2345 (2nd) -- KelleyCook (talk) 22:33, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

New york interstates
Our normal name is I-00 (ST).svg; so I think we should copy all the Image:Interstate 87 (New York).svg to Image:I-87 (NYST).svg, because I-00 (NY).svg have exist as oval neutral shields.Jeff told us he have technical computer problems, so can you log back and copy all those images to I-00 (NYST).svg.-- Freewayguy Call? Fish 03:35, 24 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Image:I-87 (NYST).svg (upload it from Image:Interstate 87 (New York).svg)
 * Image:I-88 (NYST).svg (upload it from Image:Interstate 88 (New York).svg)
 * Image:I-190 (NYST).svg (upload it from Image:Interstate 190 (New York).svg)
 * Image:I-290 (NYST).svg (upload it from Image:Interstate 290 (New York).svg)
 * Image:I-390 (NYST).svg (upload it from Image:Interstate 390 (New York).svg)
 * Image:I-490 (NYST).svg (upload it from Image:Interstate 490 (New York).svg)
 * Image:I-590 (NYST).svg (upload it from Image:Interstate 590 (New York).svg)
 * Image:I-690 (NYST).svg (upload it from Image:Interstate 690 (New York).svg)
 * Image:I-790 (NYST).svg (upload it from Image:Interstate 790 (New York).svg)
 * Image:I-890 (NYST).svg (upload it from Image:Interstate 890 (New York).svg)
 * Image:I-990 (NYST).svg (upload it from Image:Interstate 990 (New York).svg)
 * Image:I-295 (NYST).svg (upload it from Image:Interstate 295 (New York).svg)
 * Image:I-695 (NYST).svg (upload it from Image:Interstate 695 (New York).svg)
 * Image:I-895 (NYST).svg (upload it from Image:Interstate 895 (New York).svg)
 * Image:I-587 (NYST).svg (upload it from Image:Interstate 587 (New York).svg)
 * Image:I-678 (NYST).svg (upload it from Image:Interstate 678 (New York).svg)
 * Image:I-787 (NYST).svg (upload it from Image:Interstate 787 (New York).svg)
 * Image:I-478 (NYST).svg (upload it from Image:Interstate 478 (New York).svg)
 * Image:I-481 (NYST).svg (upload it from Image:Interstate 481 (New York).svg)


 * And after when you copy the NY shields to Image:i-00 (NYST)can you putImage:Interstate 00 (new York).svg?-- Freewayguy Call? Fish 03:40, 24 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Can you please transfer those images by copying. I thoguht you know how to copy images.-- Freewayguy Call? Fish 14:56, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

List of Utah numbered highways
Do you like? I modeled it off of List of numbered highways in Maryland which is a FL. -- Admrb♉ltz (t • c • [ log]) 01:11, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
 * MD lists State highways on a separate list, which is why I left the state highways off of the numbered highways list. -- Admrb♉ltz (t • c • [ log]) 01:15, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
 * That works, which is kind of how i listed it in the template. -- Admrb♉ltz (t • c • [ log]) 01:18, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Yea, I should have done it that way. I overwrote the redirect that use to exist, if that redirect wasn't there, I would have named it right. If you want to move it its cool, just remember to update the template. -- Admrb♉ltz (t • c • [ log]) 01:21, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks; though I (or someone else) needs to finish the route descriptions and add a bit more to the lead. -- Admrb♉ltz (t • c • [ log]) 01:24, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

USRD Newsletter, Issue 5
Apologies for the late delivery; here is the June edition of the newsletter.


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FrontRunner infobox
Go ahead and flop them. -- Admrb♉ltz (t • c • [ log]) 21:33, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Infobox road
Works for me :) -- Admrb♉ltz (t • c • [ log]) 06:33, 29 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Works for me too. You, me, Admrboltz and whoever else might want to have a chat about how to handle the split into two pages. With the recent debate over WP:MOSFLAG there may be some push back to remove some or all of the shields on the list. I personally don't have a problem, but _ahem_ some editors live to find problems.=-) Dave (talk) 00:02, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

DYK
Yea... I woke up just in time to see it before the update :p, and you are quite welcome on the nod for member-o'da month. -- Admrb♉ltz (t • c • [ log]) 18:55, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

AAP reassessment
Is this just a start, or is it C? -- Admrb♉ltz (t • c • [ log]) 05:06, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Hrm, the lead kind of incorporates history elements... would have to flesh out and move I assume? -- Admrb♉ltz (t • c • [ log]) 05:23, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I was scraping the bottom of the barrel to find the refs in the first; google news wasn't giving me much, or the trib, or ksl.com... I don't want to strip the lead if I can help it tho. -- Admrb♉ltz (t • c • [ log]) 05:34, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I took the second lead paragraph and moved it to a history section. I don't see this getting past C class ever... -- Admrb♉ltz (t • c • [ log]) 05:51, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

I have listed this on Peer Review if you wish to comment at WikiProject Highways/Peer review/Adams Avenue Parkway. -- Admrb♉ltz (t • c • [ log]) 07:49, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * The PR is going much better than I expected. As I noted in teh PR, do you think its a B? I am not sure myself and you seem to be the grading chief. BTW, 'grats on the GA on US-89. -- Admrb♉ltz (t • c • [ log]) 02:58, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Well grats anyways :p -- and thanks for the upgrade. -- Admrb♉ltz (t • c • [ log]) 03:54, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

M-554 reassessment
what more do you want for a route description? The whole unsigned highway was only 0.9 mile long. You could see one end from the other! Honestly there isn't any more to add. To say it isn't complete is rediculous in my book. Imzadi1979 (talk) 07:14, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Featured member
It has been confirmed that you are the next featured member for USRD's newsletter. You will need to answer a few questions so I can write the section.

Questions

1. Are you a boy or girl?

Answer:

2. What subproject do you contribute to the most?

Answer:

3. What are your most valuable edits (other than Utah State Route 269)?

Answer:

Thank you for taking your time to answer these questions. ĈőмρǖтέŗĠύʎ890100 (t ↔ Ĕ ↔ ώ) 17:12, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Re: Stats
Does today sound good to you? :-P -- Kéiryn (talk) 21:23, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Not vandalism
You accuse me of vandalism, but actaully I was reverting existing vandalism. The 50% page should not be an arbitrary redirect to some album called "The Fambly Cat", so I legitimately removed the redirect. How come I have been accused of vandalism for this? KR,--82.5.173.251 (talk) 00:51, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

oh you idiot
do you not read anything posted on your talk page, I said why with my IP post, you moron —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fj2fn29fk29k9 (talk • contribs) 01:05, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

My MSHP plans...
I'm starting a new improvement drive for MSHP at the moment. Something like an assembly line. I'm going to take a couple of articles every night or two. Work on expanding a Stub up to Start, a Start up to C (or B) and a C up to B. Then I'll look through the Bs for GA candidates and nominate them one at a time (so I don't over load GAN) and do the same with the GAs for A-Class candidates. Of course if an article I nominate at ACR is ready after promotion, I'll FAC it. Of course I'm hoping that this incremental expansion and improvement is enough to keep Michigan ahead of Utah on the leaderboard.. ;-) Of course it will help improve the articles regardless of that standing. I do appreciate the assessment comments from your C-Class audit since its helping me "feel" the difference between B and C as we as a project work to make some kind of collective judgement of where that dividing line really falls. Imzadi1979 (talk) 02:09, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Can you close the Brockway ACR? Thanks, Imzadi1979 (talk) 04:02, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * It has four: CG, Admrboltz, Algo and now Dave. Imzadi1979 (talk) 04:14, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Utah State Route 68 (PR)
Could you make any suggestions/comments on the peer review before I suggest the article for GA? Thanks! -- Admrb♉ltz (t • c • [ log]) 06:28, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Your warning to User:Discospinster
Hello, I just took the template back from his talk page since he didn't do anything on that article Zodiac Killer. Check the history. Regards, De728631 (talk) 21:03, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh dear, I apologise! Looks I got confused while working in two windows at once. I restored the warning on the IP's site. De728631 (talk) 21:11, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Response
It's not vandalism.--Dr. 12345678 (talk) 21:05, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Your definition is clearly wrong.--Dr. 12345678 (talk) 21:09, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

FYI changes made to US-491 at FAC
FYI, The changes Splat made to U.S. Route 491 are being discussed at WT:USH. Dave (talk) 14:36, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Commons link
I could have sworn I saw it on the WP:USRD/STDS page, I recall a small discussion regarding it, but I can't pinpoint it. Put it back if you wish. -- Admrb♉ltz (t • c • [ log]) 00:06, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Yea, I like it there too, but I think we may need a more formal answer of where it goes... And thanks on the DYK and its on the home page while we are awake :p -- Admrb♉ltz (t • c • [ log]) 00:10, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

California State Route 70
Yes. If it's been just 5 days since the GA review and the article hasn't been sufficiently improved, you can fail it. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 20:01, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
 * When failing an article, let the reviewer, who was I, know so that he may close it and properly fail it. If you are going to fail it, make sure you complete the entire process.-- S R X  02:55, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Huggle weirdness
Sorry, about that, I couldn't get Huggle under control for a minute... J.delanoy gabs adds 23:45, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Utah State Route 68
Sure, I'm glad to help. Just let me know when you're ready for me to have another look. Finetooth (talk) 16:36, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Darya Ivanova
You seem to be reverting edits of this to a heavily vandalised version including bogus material about Pete Sampras. I presume this is an error.--Grahame (talk) 07:31, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I think her name is actually Darya Ivanov, but DuongTrongNguyen was writing a seriosu article on her) but he has now been blocked as a vandal. In any event almost all the content was bogus.--Grahame (talk) 07:39, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Google Maps
I use the "link" option in the upper right side of the map when I am zoomed where I want to be :) -- Admrb♉ltz (t • c • [ log]) 11:59, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Re: why does huggle always exaggerate right as i start it?
Law of large numbers. As the size of a sample increases, its average tends towards the population average. When starting up Huggle has a sample of only a short time, and will thus over- or under-estimate the true value depending on what happened in that short time -- Gurch (talk) 21:00, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Huggle
You are very amazingly fast with reverting. You've beaten me at least a dozen times in the past twenty minutes, and I consider myself fast manually. Good work :) Calor (talk) 02:57, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Haha no, two's better than one. I just felt like taking a break from pressing F5 to compliment you on your speed. Calor (talk) 03:03, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I would, but I was under the impression that you need to have rollback rights to be able to use Huggle. Calor (talk) 03:06, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I was reading a bit about Huggle earlier. There's a place to apply, and I could find it quickly if I wanted to, but I'm not sure if there's any sort of "unspoken rules" regarding getting rollback rights. If there are, I doubt I'd qualify. Calor (talk) 03:12, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Alright, thanks for the info. Back to RC! Calor (talk) 03:17, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Archives are your friend
You should consider archiving. There are bots that can do it for you too :) -- if you want I can have Misza archive your talk page for you automatically. -- Admrb♉ltz (t • c • [ log]) 02:42, 15 August 2008 (UTC)