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 * User:Canterbury Tail Thank you for the heads up Mr. Canterbury, but I’ve added sources to the article and I don’t believe they are insufficient evidence of its origins. Not sure why people (anonymously, although I suspect a certain user]] are bent on taking the date out. CMD007 (talk) 18:22, 24 December 2022 (UTC)

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 * Thank you for the information, but those edits were not disruptive. I was using the same guidelines that were used to delete other charts from articles. They were reverted, like I was trying to revert the same deletions on Maximilian I of Mexico. This demonstrates there is no consistency and those “guidelines” are either non-existent or bent for/by certain users. If you’d like to know more, there is a discussion on the Talk Page. CMD007 (talk) 02:04, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

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August 2023
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Unfair block/Request for intermediaries

 * I only repeated the unblock request because this was the information I received: “write an appropriate unblock request. You should only be talking about your edit-warring”. That doesn’t say to me that I cannot request again. Also, you should look into certain IP addresses leaving stupid childish messages and Nazi flags on my talk page. CMD007 (talk) 03:37, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

August 2023
 You have been blocked from editing for a period of 72 hours for edit warring. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. During a dispute, you should first try to discuss controversial changes and seek consensus. If that proves unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please review Wikipedia's guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text to the bottom of your talk page:. Aoidh (talk) 10:59, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Right after your previous block expired you proceeded to make reverts to your preferred version of at least the following articles (if not more): Manila galleon, Mestizo, Mezcal, Polvorón, Bread in Spain, Creole peoples, and History of Spanish slavery in the Philippines, continuing the same edit warring that got you blocked to begin with. - Aoidh (talk) 11:02, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

 You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for persistently making disruptive edits. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please review Wikipedia's guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text to the bottom of your talk page:. Courcelles (talk) 19:09, 4 August 2023 (UTC)


 * After review, I do not think you are inclined to edit collaboratively on this project, and therefore, it is better if this block simply does not expire. Your history of edit warring warnings alone (most of which you have blanked) indicates a significant problem. Courcelles (talk) 19:10, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

Indefinite block Reversal

 * What’s the difference, if you cannot be convinced? I have already guaranteed that I will not go about editing in the same manner, and that I will use talk pages to sort these issues out. What more can convince you? As it is I think I handled the second part well, since I did not continue anything after he went crazy. (Do you understand that reply to him? He wasn’t even trying to understand my message to him and went off in his own direction, ignoring what I wrote; That was an honest question to him. Both of the replies I received on that talk page example you linked to do not make any sense and don’t address the issue). This entire issue arose from the other user deleting whole and multiple sources and blanking out entire pages BECAUSE HE DIDN’T LIKE THEM. I just wanted to keep the sources in place. He went haywire, yet he is not on indefinite block. How is that? CMD007 (talk) 19:53, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Other users have no bearing on what gets typed on your keyboard. Either you address the things you have done, or you likely won't be unblocked.  -- Jayron 32 16:39, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

For any other reviewing admins, I am copy-pasting this list of diffs made by Obsidian Soul clearly demonstrating a pattern of disruptive POV pushing by CMD007 from User talk:Obsidian Soul:


 * Mestizo
 * Removed the Philippines, Mariana Islands, and Aruba, from the article's infobox. Including the languages they speak
 * Removed it even further. Refusing to acknowledge that the term "Mestizo" is used in the Philippines, Guam, etc. the same way and had the same legal importance as it did in Latin America
 * Even more removals of sourced mentions of non-American historical usage of the term in the Spanish Empire
 * Finally completely removed the Spanish East Indies altogether, completing the excision of all non-Latin American usage of "Mestizo"


 * Real Audiencia
 * Removed all mention of the Philippines. Replaced with vaguer "other territories" and "Spanish possessions". No new sources for his changes


 * Overseas Filipinos
 * Changed "colony of Spain" to "ruled by Spain", with an edit summary of "it was not a colony, there was not mass immigration to the islands." As if a colony had to earn it's colony-ness by how many natives got killed and replaced by the colonizers.


 * Mexico-Philippines relations
 * Changed the wording on sourced text, from "Filipino" -> "Philippines-born", because white people (one of them is a mestizo) can't be Filipinos apparently
 * Changed "traditions and customs" to mere "trade and commerce". Change "Spanish colony" to mere "trading post" and "Spanish territory". Deliberately obfuscated "ethnic and cultural mingling between Mexicans and Filipinos" to "ethnic and cultural mingling between multiple groups". Not a single source was provided for these changes. Again just one or two word changes that completely change the meaning of sourced content


 * New Spain
 * Removed mention of the Philippines in the infobox, replaced "Philippines" with the vaguer "Asia" as the source of the Manila Galleons
 * Removed mention of the Philippines again


 * Juan de Salcedo
 * Deliberately changed "allies" to "conquered", replaced the original "Filipino Militias" with the vaguer primitive-sounding "local warriors". *Removed "Visayans" entirely (who formed the majority of the forces) and replaced with just "Spanish and Mexican"


 * Enríquez
 * Removed the Philippines. Someone move the pages of Mike Enriquez and Jocelyn Enriquez etc. to something else please. Can't have none of that Spanish surnames on us slaves.


 * Spanish language
 * Changed the "Philippines" to the vaguer "Asia"


 * Hispanophone
 * Removed the Philippines


 * Criollo people
 * Changed "Spanish Philippines" to "Spanish East Indies" (despite the fact that the word insulares was only used in the Philippines, not Guam/Marianas/Carolines


 * Captaincy General of the Philippines
 * Idiotized the original text to highlight "rule" and "dependency" on Mexico. Removed the existence of the Royal Audience of Manila, and just replaced it with Mexico


 * Governor-General of the Philippines
 * Changed Spain to Mexico City, arbitrarily. Resulting in the now incorrect assertion that Mexico administered the Philippines up to 1898 (they gained independence from Spain long before that)


 * Council of the Indies
 * Removed the Philippines. Replaced with vaguer distancing language "territories" and "Spanish East Indies". Also removed the category for the Spanish East Indies


 * Manila galleon
 * Inserted the assertion that most of the slaves were Filipinos. Which is not in the sourced original text, nor in the actual source itself. Note that he does NOT add any new sources. Just changed the text to something the source does not say.
 * Emphasized the "Nao de China" name, which was already mentioned elsewhere in the lead, probably because it says China not Manila. First use of the term "chinos esclavos", which as explained by the source does NOT actually refer to Filipino slaves exclusively, and is actually point of contention by FREE Filipino immigrants to New Spain, the "chinos libres" - who ARE mostly Filipino, because of the confusion of the usage of the same inaccurate colonial term "chinos". Just like how Columbus couldn't find India, so he just called everyone Indians.
 * And now THAT edit of his is now there for eternity, because just restored that edit without reading the actual original sentence, or its source. Apparently unable to see the link between my WP:POINTy demonstration to the same fucking words. See ? We ARE just "chinos esclavos" according to Wikipedia. LMFAO
 * And now Technopat in his blessed idiocy of AGF-ing, is now busy integrating CMD007's steaming pile of shit into the article


 * Spanish diaspora
 * Removed the "Philippines" subsection and replaced it with "Former Spanish East Indies", despite all the other subsections being divided by modern country names
 * Adds modifier "very small population" and "sometimes other" to the Philippines subsection with no added sources. Removed a sourced paragraph.


 * Basque diaspora
 * Changed "Spanish Empire" to "viceroyalty of New Spain" as the origin of Basque immigrants in the Philippines in sourced text. No new sources. Just arbitrary changes as usual


 * Bistek
 * Changed wording to imply this was a modern secondarily acquired dish from Spain/Latin America. Instead of a contemporaneous colonial dish back when all of it was the Spanish Empire. Same subtle distancing wording, like changing "from" to "loan word from", even though a fully Spanish name of the dish exists: bistec tagalog
 * Attempted to hijack the article into a purely Spanish definition with zero mention of the Philippines, like he did in Flan cake


 * Mestizos in Mexico
 * Removal of an entire very well-sourced paragraph on African and Asian admixture in mestizos. Removed "Afro-Mexicans" and "Asian Mexicans" in related groups, again with the edit summary claiming that "mestizo never historically included Africans or Asians". Which is bullshit of course, but we must not dirty his limpieza de sangre. Eh, ?


 * Empanada
 * Removed the Philippines and replaced it with the very vague "Iberian influenced cultures around the world". Despite the fact that the Philippines is literally the only country left that is not mentioned where empanada is a big fucking deal in local cuisines. I was actually planning to expand it because it's one of my favorite dishes. I guess I'll never get to do that now. This is it's current state.


 * Merienda
 * Completely removed the Philippines in the lead sentence. No reason. Just to hide it I guess. I'm thankful he didn't seem to read past the first paragraph.


 * Philippines
 * Specifically removed a sourced sentence on Mexican and Filipino intermarriage in the Philippines. Removed a historically significant sentence on Mestizos being the primary driver of the shift of terminological usage of the demonym "Filipino"


 * Catálogo alfabético de apellidos
 * Added "Among Filipinos, a Spanish surname does not denote Spanish ancestry." No sources and redundant as fuck. Just apparently to emphasize his distaste at the thought of Filipinos with Spanish ancestry


 * Spanish Colonial Revival architecture
 * Same shit. His insistence on replacing "Philippines" with "Spanish East Indies", even when the subsections are grouped by modern countries. Replaced "colonial rule" with "conquered". Removed "Philippines' Spanish heritage".


 * Miguel López de Legazpi
 * Again his changing of the wording leading to factual inaccuracies. In this case, that the Philippines was ruled by Mexico for 333 years. Which is NOT fucking true


 * Nobility
 * Completely gutted MULTIPLE SOURCED paragraphs discussing how the pre-colonial nobility of the Philippines were legally integrated as the Principalia aristocracy of the colonial era by the Spanish crown. His only explanation? "These are not for entire articles, only summaries". But he didn't move the text he removed. It's just gone. Someone tried to revert him, then gave up. THIS IS ITS CURRENT STATE.


 * East Indies
 * Just outright removed the Philippines in the Overview. No edit summary. No explanations. He knows he gets away with it now


 * Manila
 * Subtle change in wording, massive change in meaning. No new sources introduced.


 * Legazpi
 * Again the denial that the Philippines was a colony


 * Hispanic and Latino Americans
 * Removed Filipinos as a related group. Just us. Everyone else is fine.


 * Filipino Americans
 * Reworded the lead to specifically claim that Filipinos came to Mexico as "slaves and prisoners". Added "and other Asian ethnicities" and "Chinese" just to muddle it even further, even if they were not in the sources. Then further minimized it by adding the modifiers" handful of inhabitants". He also inserted "but the view that Filipinos may be Hispanic is not universally accepted", even though the article was talking about the US GOVERNMENT CENSUS CLASSIFICATIONS of Filipino immigrants. Again no new sources added. The sources in place contradict his changes. THIS IS ITS CURRENT STATE.


 * History of Filipino Americans
 * Same shit as above. We were "slaves and indentured servants." Then bla bla about Mexico ruling the Philippines. How it was not a colony. How Filipinos apparently can not marry Hispanics (LOL?). I'm tired of describing what he's doing. THIS IS ITS CURRENT STATE.


 * Asian immigration to the United States
 * Same shit as above. Slaves, prisoners.... you get the idea. And yep current state.


 * Demographics of Filipino Americans
 * Slaves, prisoners... current state...


 * First landing of Filipinos in the United States
 * Slaves, prisoners...


 * Filipino American History Month
 * Did you know all Filipinos were just slaves and prisoners in the Americas?


 * Mexicans
 * Deliberate conflation of Filipinos (chinos libres) and Chinos (chinos "esclavos", LEGAL Asian slaves, including some Filipino war captives from the Moro Wars, but most of it are purchased Portuguese slaves from Goa and elsewhere). Again, the preexisting sources contradict him. He doesn't add a new one to support his changes. The original text he replaced was correct.


 * Castro (surname)
 * Removed the Philippines. Apparently 6.8% of Filipinos need to change their surnames to something CMD007 approves of.


 * Spanish Filipino
 * Apparently we were "never a Spanish-speaking country". As usual. No sources added to support his changes. He even hid the images so it's more believable. LMAO


 * Hacienda
 * Just completely removed the Philippines. XD


 * Repartimiento
 * Completely remove the Philippines again. Just completely remove every single mention of it, regardless of the sources. I've given up identifying current states too, haven't I? Take a wild guess on whether these edits still stand.


 * Don (honorific)
 * Did you know CMD007 deletes all mentions of the Philippines? Shocking, right?


 * Hispanic and Latino Americans
 * fjsadhfnilasebiylfghefiuaekljoegtfsagsagasegaqgf


 * Maharlika
 * hide it!


 * Alfonso XIII
 * PHILIPPINES NOT ALLOWED!


 * Cebu City
 * Apparently we were invaded by Mexicans all along, not Spaniards


 * Asian Mexicans
 * Slaves, prisoners, (impressed) crews....


 * Polvoron
 * removed the Philippines entirely from the lead and placed it under an "elsewhere" section, as if we didn't inherit it DIRECTLY from Spain


 * Churros
 * Removed the Philippines entirely


 * Bread in Spain
 * Removed the Philippines and replaced with the colonial name, tweaked wording to give all credit to Spain, instead of a combination of Spanish and local innovation


 * Flan cake
 * Hijacked the article entirely, confusing the flan cake for flan (creme caramel), and of course, giving Mexico and Spain all the credit
 * I tried to fix it but...
 * Block evader already at work. LOL


 * Mezcal
 * Removed the Philippines as the source of distillation. Completely changed the article by replacing key words, and then supposedly sourced all these changes from books WHICH DO NOT SUPPORT THE TEXT
 * After the first revert, did it again, even more comprehensively this time, introducing even more factual errors by his word-replacement style of editing supported by vague sources that do not actually support the text.
 * In it's current state, it repeats the idiotic one-liner inserted by, even though the history section sourced from the two most detailed academic sources on the topic clearly discusses the origin of distillation as only from Philippines. The new one-sentence tertiary source is now added in WP:SYNTHESIS giving the impression that its origin from Spain had any historical or scientific bases whatsoever (it does not)


 * Menudo (soup)
 * Removed a lead mention of a similarly-named stew, with shared origins, from the Philippines

 Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 16:35, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

MISREPRESENTATION/ I CAN CRY TOO
The fact that everyone is coddling the big BABY Obsidian Soul says to me that the PERSON WHO SCREAMS THE LOUDEST GETS WHAT THEY WANT. Well, guess what? I ONLY WANT SOURCED MATERIAL IN THE EDITS. Everything I’ve ever added or deleted can be VERIFIED or proven UNRELATED. '''There are sources for the edits in my later life as an editor. Perhaps it was a learning curve for me as an editor to add reliable sources and use Talk Pages''' (which hardly anyone shows up to except to taunt you). SO SHOOT ME. NO ONE HAS GIVEN ME A CLASS ON EDITING ON WIKIPEDIA. I’m learning HOW TO EDIT MYSELF. I’ve used TRIAL AND ERROR. WHY THE HELL HAVE THIS SITE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC THEN? ONLY TO BLOCK INDEFINITELY WHEN THE WATERS BEGIN TO RIPPLE AND GET ROUGH. THE FIRST TIME I GOT OUT OF UNBLOCK, I didn’t immediately start “edit warring”. I CITED SOURCES AND ADDED IN THE MATERIAL. Obsidian Soul went bat shit crazy and I was the scape goat. He starts crying (and is STILL crying) and then I go from THREE DAYS TO INDEFINITE- PLUS I CAN SAY NOTHING TO REVERSE IT. You all want some magic words when I already explained myself and offered complete cooperation. I don’t have any magic words and I’ve already acknowledged my past mistakes. HAS HE??? He also has added things without sources!!!!!!!!

Everyone saying that “he has the knowledge/“expertise” in this field is mislead. He only has the knowledge of what HE WANTS THE ARTICLES TO SAY. Which mostly isn’t the truth, as can be seen by his cherry picked list of contentions. He doesn’t even know that Mexico City, as the capital of the Viceroyalty of New Spain, ruled the Spanish East Indies (yes, the modern Philippines was ONE of its territories) for the FIRST 250 years. THAT is one of the reasons for Mexican independence —it was a drag on its purse strings!!! They let Madrid TAKE CARE OF IT. This paper from a Filipino professor at Santo Tomas LITERALLY SAYS IT WAS ADMINISTERED, which is one of the words he is crying about me using!!!!! How can he not recognize this ACTUAL HISTORY???? And act like it didn’t happen??? THAT MIGHT BE THE REAL REVERSE RACISM —IGNORING THE HISTORY OF THE SPANISH AND NOVOHISPANIC PEOPLE.

Obsidian has had over a decade of experience and this is how he acts??? AND THEN HE’S AWARDED FOR IT. This is how he treats someone who has ADDED MANY sources?? WE HAVE NOT ALL BEEN GLUED TO THE WIKIPEDIA SITE FOR 20 years. We are NEW EDITORS and CONTRIBUTING EDITORS AND WE MAKE MISTAKES. WE AREN’T PART OF YOUR GOOD OL BOYS CLUB (which he seems to be a part of only because of “tenure” nothing else to be honest). ALL ANYONE SEES IS THE 14 YEARS BY HIS NAME AND AUTOMATICALLY GOES TO HIS GOOFY AIDE. HOW ABOUT LOOKING INTO THE EDITS????? Especially the more recent edits HE DOESN’T SHOW IN HIS CHERRY PICKED PRESENTATION.

Cullen328 even offers unwavering “back up” with no knowledge of the material??? GIVE ME A BREAK. CAN’T YOU JUST READ THE SOURCES??? Do the links not work???? What can possibly be said to negate the addition of information when there is a SOURCE???? Multiple sources???

OBSIDIAN SEEMS TO NOT WANT TO UNDERSTAND A THING AS SIMPLE AS CHOOSING A BETTER IMAGE FOR A SECTION LABELED “CONQUEST” (16th century) on Talk:Philippines–Spain relations. He cries and goes off into a tangent about unrelated photos/info. He wants a cheesy, heart-warming and romantic 19th century painting of women that represent the countries in mention. Why?? Because it makes him feel good and warm inside. NO ONE SHOULD QUESTION IT. THESE ARE HIS ARTICLES. Doesn’t matter that it’s about the conquest in the 16th century!!!!! HE WANTS IT AND IT STAYS. As for the idiotic IP address who also replied -THEY DIDN’T EVEN MAKE A SINGLE GRAIN OF SENSE. In fact, they were confused. Anyone who can make sense of that entire exchange - explain it to me. But STUDY it first. I don’t care what you say if you didn’t read it carefully. And why doesn’t anyone think that IP was Obsidian when people easily tossed my username around when another IP troll went around the same day reverting edits. WHAT IS WITH ALL OF THESE DOUBLE STANDARDS???

Many GOOD EDITS have just been plain reverted. I made a PERFECT edit using ALL THE SOURCES about the THEORIES of the origins of Mezcal. It was reverted because I mistakenly put it in the Intro instead of being put in the body. HOW ABOUT JUST MOVING IT THERE IN GOOD FAITH??? He’s crying about sources and when I give him 10 SOURCES HE JUST CRIES BECAUSE HE DOESN’T LIKE WHAT THEY SAY BECAUSE HE IS A LITTLE BITCH. If he can call me names and a racist, I can also toss around insults!!!!!

He NEEDS the Filipinos to be mentioned as THE CREATORS⚡️of mezcal. He’s frothing at the mouth about it!! Even though there are LITERALLY ENDLESS SOURCES FOR SPANISH AND INDIGENOUS ORIGINS of a drink that was… created in their own country of Mexico. No way… Spaniards having distillation methods???? FALSE!! Didn’t you know Filipinos HAVE/MAKE EVERYTHING?? Even “””leche flan””” isn’t from the original FLAN DE LECHE. Oh nooo. IT JUST CAME ABOUT FROM THIN AIR IN THE PHILIPPINES. “Well, we were basically a part of Spain that floated away from the Basque Country though and don’t say we weren’t” but still, it just appeared from thin air.

Was the philipines NOT part of the Spanish East Indies???? He cries about wanting everyone to recognize it being part of (or under, I should say) the Spanish Empire, yet he doesn’t want to call them EXACTLY WHAT THE SPANISH CALLED THEM?? He wants the words “Filipino” and “the Philippines” to be EVERYWHERE with a big spotlight. “Oh, you have menudo, we have some tooo” WELL ITS NOT MENUDO. The edit he wants back in literally says the DIFFERENCE between them, making them NOT THE SAME DISH.

He pretends that he is somehow on a holy quest against “racism”. That is his way of playing the worlds smallest violin. WHAT ABOUT HIM DELETING THE MARIANAS, THE CAROLINAS, AND GUAM????? THEY DON’T MATTER TO HIM. HE COULDN’T CARE LESS. THEY’RE BENEATH HIM, CHAMORROS DON’T MAKE SPANISH FOOD, ONLY PINOYS DO!!!! HE NEEDS THE PHILIPPINES TO BE FRONT AND CENTER, or he will CRY!!!!! Wahhhhhh!!!!

He seems to be upset that Filipinos WERE HISTORICALLY AND VERIFIABLY ENSLAVED. He literally wrote in one of his edits that (paraphrasing) “Filipinos also couldn’t be enslaved and they were protected as citizens of Spain” TALK ABOUT LOLLLLLL. I had INCLUDED HISTORICAL SOURCES THAT SAID THE OPPOSITE. There are books written that scream he is wrong. It was WELL over 120 years after the conquest of Manila before the Spanish Crown even considered not enslaving Filipinos AND TAKING THEM AS SLAVES TO MEXICO. (SEE SOURCES BELOW). After 1700, THEY STILL DID IT. YET HE WANTS WIKIPEDIA TO SAY FILIPINOS WERE AS FANTASTICALLY FREE AS THE SPANISH AND NOVOHISPANOS, just, you know, not as “in charge”. “It was the Filipinos that came to trade with Mexico, not the other way around!! They even built the ships!!! Didn’t you know Filipinos were sailors????? (They never made it across on their own before but NEVERMIND THAT). They sailed around trading with the Americas in charge of their own ships and destiny!!!! Doesn’t matter which article, pick one and add their mention!!! Hurry!!!! Pick any food!!! They have it too!!! It’s not really the same but MENTION IT ANYWAY!! (Link everything to the Philippines - After all, this is the English wiki and Filipinos speak English!!!!! Make it their personal Encyclopedia!!!!) Except leche flan, DO NOT mention the link in that article, it’s totally unrelated. ITS WHATEVER HE FEELS WHENEVER HE FEELS, GOT IT??

He states “While some of us (Filipinos) were enslaved, same as with Native Americans, and we were always second-class citizens in the Spanish Empire…”. Again, He is '''not correct. The Native Americans could NOT BE ENSLAVED LEGALLY LIKE FILIPINOS. (See sources below).''' It was against the laws put forth by Queen Isabella I and later Charles V. HE TRIES DESPERATELY NOT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT FILIPINOS HAD BEEN SINGLED OUT IN HISTORY ALONG WITH AFRICANS. But Filipinos and other Asians WERE singled out, along with Africans, to be used as slaves for over a century. IT’S JUST HISTORY. He doesn’t like it, but again, it’s NOT MY OPINION.”From the late 1560s through the early 1700s, individual traders brought slaves from the Philippines to Mexico aboard the ships of the Manila Galleon.” This explains that even though the Spaniards prohibited slavery in the New World, it didn’t in the Philippines. More sources for Filipino slavery -, , , A history of the Manila-Acapulco slave trade (1565-1815), Luengo, Jose Maria S. 1996, , - A slave building called “Caserio de Filipinas” in Montevideo, a warehouse for slaves in 18th century, , etc, etc.

He uses little phrases like “same as the Native Americans” to change the narrative and make it seem like I don’t know what I’m talking about. Native Americans WERE NOT legally able to legally be slaves since the early 1500’s, so no, not the “same as”. Sources saying native Americans could NOT be enslaved -, ,. Also, There was a decree from Pope Paul III in 1537 to NOT enslave Native Americans, which the Catholic Spanish monarchs abided by. There was a solid difference for Spaniards between the Natives of the Americas, whose statues adorned the Royal Palace of Madrid —and Filipinos, whose statues did not. (Not to mention, the Aztec emperors descendants intermarried with European nobility/royalty, while no native Filipinos ever did and definitely never IN Europe.) This is all JUST HISTORICAL FACT, not my rules and not my opinions!!!! Try to understand Obsidian. Yet he’ll go in and twist words and cry more, just WATCH. (He also wrote, “And one of those rights is protection from slavery. Filipino immigrants and ALL Asian slaves in Mexico (New Spain) were BOTH called "chinos". WHICH IS IT??? According to you, were Filipinos PROTECTED from slavery OR NOT???? Do you have SOURCES saying they were protected???? YOU’VE NEVER USED THEM. It’s also the COMPLETE opposite of all the sources I’ve just given here.)

Another instance of ridiculousness: The word Mestizo IN EVERY SOURCE says that it is a person of European (Spanish) and Indigenous American ancestry. IT NEVER DEFINES THEM AS FILIPINO OR AUSTRONESIAN, or ANYTHING ELSE etc. If Filipinos, who are 98% Austronesian, Chinese, and have small populations of various other things, are included in the Mestizo article, then why aren’t Mestizos included in White People or EUROPEAN people articles??? Why aren’t Mulatos included in White People?? They have white ancestry too…? Because they are a DIFFERENT group by definition. THERE IS ALREADY AN ENTIRE ARTICLE DEDICATED TO Filipino Mestizos AND WHAT IT MEANS IN THEIR COUNTRY. HINT: ITS NOT THE SAME MEANING. Every other group mentioned in the article mestizo IS THE SAME MIX OF EUROPEAN/AMERINDIAN, they are going to be the only odd, unrelated people out. Just because he wants inclusion into a group he’s not part of. He needs it!!! But not included as the Spanish East Indies, nooooooo. ONLY AS…. Wait for it……. The Philippines 🙌🏼. Who cares about the others that are the same as the Filipino definition, his country should be mentioned when he wants a mention.

He is amazed that I took Filipinos out of the article Hispanic and Latino Americans??? PERHAPS BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT PART OF THAT GROUP AND CERTAINLY NOT ACCORDING TO THE US CENSUS. He laughs that Filipinos were barred from marrying Hispanics??? HOW ABOUT LOOKING UP THE ACTUAL OLD LAWS OF CALIFORNIA instead of “LOL’ing”. Filipinos WERE NOT WHITE. MEXICANS/HISPANICS WERE WHITE (states “which 445 were between persons of white (Mexicans are considered white)” and Filipinos were barred from marrying whites. You can find any of this information by looking up VERIFIED racial prerequisite cases and legal cases/historical sources. THIS ISN’T MY OPINION. HE STILL HATES IT THOUGH BECAUSE ITS NOT WHAT HE WANTS IT TO SAY. IT SHOULD BE ACCORDING TO HIS POV AND HIS FEELINGS!!!!

As for Filipinos being “related” people’s—The majority of Filipinos do not have ancestral Spanish last names or blood and they were given fake names for taxes (Claveria Act of 1849). Stanford University has stated that around 3% of the Philippine population had minimal degrees of Spanish ancestry. Most do NOT. Also, the PNAS article on the Philippines states (SI Appendix, Table s7Z) “In contrast to Spanish settled regions (ie. Mexico, Latin Am.), Philippines remained largely unaffected by admixture with Europeans” https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2026132118 HOW CAN YOU CALL THEM A RELATED GROUP???

SORRY BUDDY, truth is truth… and history, MOST of the time, CAN BE VERIFIED. Wikipedia SHOULD NOT BE WRITTEN WITH PERSONAL POINTS OF VIEW BUT SOURCED INFORMATION.

I do admit, I agree with ONE thing the little cry baby says: “Probably explains a good deal of the missing editors over the years.” WIKIPEDIA NEEDS TO GET IT TOGETHER. PROTECT SOURCED CONTRIBUTIONS AND ADD SOURCES WHERE THEY ARE MISSING. And STOP ADMIN FROM OVER REACH AND POWER TRIPS!!!

SOME ADMIN ONLY WANT TO PLAY gOD. (not all, because thank GOD for the good/fair ones. They are far and few in between). There is so much WRONG WITH MANY ADMIN INSERTING THEIR POV INTO THIS ISSUE (many listed above) and ALSO REVERSING GOOD EDITS ON MANY ARTICLES. You don’t have to go very far and study what happened with the Maximilian I of Mexico/Ancestry chart fiasco. BIASED BIASED BIASED. I HAVE POWER, I MUST BE IN POWER. You go right - OVERRULED. You go left - OVERRULED. You can’t go up, you can’t go down - OVERRULED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! “THIS ARTICLE MUST BE THIS WAY BECAUSE I SAY, BUT THAT ARTICLE CANT BE THE SAME WAY BECAUSE I SAY. THERE IS NO POLICY, ITS WHAT ME AND MY GANG SAY AT THIS MOMENT. A CHART FOR EVERYONE EXCEPT THAT ONE.” And you think my recent edits are disruptive???? DOES ANYONE HEAR ANYTHING?????? CMD007 (talk) 19:31, 10 August 2023 (UTC) CMD007 (talk) 19:31, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Due to that rant filled with personal attacks, your talk page access has been revoked. Read WP:UTRS for your unblock options. Cullen328 (talk) 19:47, 10 August 2023 (UTC)