User talk:CPI04/Archive 1

Nice work!
Great work on fungicide! It's amazing how after 149 edits by 26 editors, nearly all of the content on that page has been added in 2 edits by Million_Moments and yourself.

Anyway, you certainly know how to write an encyclopedia... I hope you'll stick around :-) Adrian J. Hunter(talk•contribs) 15:06, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Whoa!
Hey. I was watching the new pages log and I noticed you created Major Uses of Fungicides. Nice! I don't know if I've ever seen a page like that at all on Wikipedia. Good job on referencing everything as well. I would like to point out something that could've made referencing a heck of a lot easier. If you enable this tool in your "my preferences" in the top right of Wikipedia, then it would simplify things! Namely, it would allow you to easily "name references" so that you can cite the same reference many times in one article w/o needing to create a new place for that reference each time. For example, you have several references listed like 10 times each, making the "total" amount of references somewhere around 350 475. With that citation tool, you could probably get the number considerably lower since. Killiondude (talk) 07:34, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, you go to "my preferences", then you go to the "gadgets" tab and you can enable it there. I forgot to finish what I began to say. Killiondude (talk) 07:41, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Re: more thanks
No worries at all... it's a pleasure to copyedit a well-researched and sensibly structured article. Not to mention a chance for me to learn a lot. Keep up the good work :-) Adrian J. Hunter(talk•contribs) 03:17, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Link Help
helpme

Hey, i was hoping someone out there could give me a hand. I'm editing an article I started last week, Uses of Fungicides, but I need clarificaiton on links within wikipedia articles. Basically what I am wondering is within an article how often do you make a word link to another wikipedia article? For example in uses of fungicides the article talks about many different U.S. states many times. Now what I am wondering is let's say for California how often do I link to the California page when I mention the state? Only the first time? Everytime? It is a lengthy article so it seems like I should link to it more than once but not every single time. I tried to find wikipedia guidelines on this somewhere but kinda struggled to so I was hoping someone might be able to shed some light. Thanks! CPRI04 (talk) 18:04, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Only the first time. See MOS:LINK for more linking help. Xenon54 (talk) 18:06, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Careful with cut and pasting copyrighted material...
Please do not add copyrighted material to Wikipedia without permission from the copyright holder. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material; such additions will be deleted. You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. Yilloslime (t) 19:59, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Yilloslime, sorry about that! My question is how can I show that I do have permission from the copyright holder? As part of my job I do extensive crop protection research and as a result have worked with Leonard Gianessi before. I actually do have his permission to use that material. I spoke to him before I put it up on wikipedia and asked him if he was ok with it and he has said he does not mind. His report was not disseminated very well when it was first published so he was happy to hear that his work could at least have an impact here. So just let me know how to show I do have the permission and I will get that up right away! Again, sorry about that. --CPRI04 (talk) 20:14, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Actually, nevermind. Found it! I'll work on this now. Thanks for bringing this to my attention, Yilloslime. I'll make sure to be more careful in the future. CPRI04 (talk) 20:31, 26 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Hey, cool. I'm not a copyright expert, I was just reading that section and the prose sounded a little too good, so I popped some sentences into the google and the CropLife report came up. Good luck getting the copyright release. Whether or not it's granted, I would encourage you put the material in your into your own words, rather quoting large chunks of it (with or without quotation marks). I'd also suggest incorporating additional sources. Relying too much on one source can raise WP:NPOV issues: I imagine CropLife has a somewhat different view of the value of pesticides than the EPA or, say, the NRDC.


 * I also notice that Uses of fungicides is largely or perhaps entirely a cleaned-up and formatted cut-and-paste from that same source. As the same copyright issue applies, I'm going to blank that page for now. Yilloslime (t) 22:19, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Copyright problems with Uses of fungicides
Hello. Concerning your contribution, Uses of fungicides, please note that Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted text or images obtained from other web sites or printed material, without the permission of the author(s). As a copyright violation, Uses of fungicides appears to qualify for deletion under the speedy deletion criteria. Uses of fungicides has been tagged for deletion, and may have been deleted by the time you see this message.

If you believe that the article or image is not a copyright violation, or if you have permission from the copyright holder to release the content freely under the GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL) then you should do one of the following:


 * If you have permission from the author, leave a message explaining the details at Talk:Uses of fungicides and send an email with the message to "permissions-en (at) wikimedia (dot) org". See Requesting copyright permission for instructions.
 * If a note on the original website states that re-use is permitted under the GFDL or released into the public domain leave a note at Talk:Uses of fungicides with a link to where we can find that note.
 * If you hold the copyright to the material: send an e-mail from an address associated with the original publication to permissions-en(at)wikimedia(dot)org or a postal message to the Wikimedia Foundation permitting re-use under the GFDL, and note that you have done so on Talk:Uses of fungicides.

However, for textual content, you may simply consider rewriting the content in your own words. Thank you. Yilloslime (t) 22:24, 26 January 2009 (UTC)


 * So instead of blanking the page as I indicated I would above, I instead nominated it for speedy deletion. You can always recreate the page if/once you've gotten the copyright release or recreate the content in your own words. Yilloslime (t) 22:27, 26 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Yilloslime, I appreciate the guidance you have offered and I'm sorry about all the confusion. In retrospect, definitely didn't go about this article as best I could. As I had said before this was my first article so I am kind of figuring this out as I go. I originally went with this because as I said on the article talk page I found it to be a good report when it came out and I actually had to go and check a vast number of those citations for my job so I knew it to be accurate, but as you pointed out even if it is legal for me to put this up here a rewritten article would be far superior. So I do plan on rewriting this article, I think with some effort it can definitely be a valuable addition to the wikipedia community. However, even though I am rewriting, I did request that Mr. Gianessi note on his website that these documents have no copyright just so I can sort of clear my name on the copyright issue. But anyways I will work on this, add in some of my sources, etc. and hopefully be able to post a new and even better version soon! Thanks again, Yilloslime CPRI04 (talk) 21:37, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Re: talk page
No worries – gotta keep an eye on trigger-happy admins :-)

Happy to check any contributions... feel free to send me a message if I seem to be taking too long or not to have noticed. Adrian J. Hunter(talk•contribs) 08:05, 11 February 2009 (UTC)