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 I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Curia of Hungary. Thanks! WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 13:29, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

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CSRANK (talk) 09:53, 1 April 2019 (UTC) Dear Editor, Please accept the article entitled the „Curia of Hungary” as it is submitted at present, for the following reasons: Ad 1 The „Curia of Hungary” article is not an elaboration of the „Supreme Court of Hungary” article written by WikiDan61 for the following reasons: The WikiDan61 article consists only of 2 sentences. The quality of the 2-sentence article remains far below the quality of the articles generally available on the Wikipedia site. Moreover, even the 2 sentences contain the following, numerous and important factual errors: The name of the Hungarian supreme judicial forum since 2012 is not Supreme Court (Legfelsőbb Bíróság) but Curia of Hungary (Kúria). The Curia of Hungary was founded not in 1949 as the Supreme Court of the People’s Republic of Hungary, but on 1 January 2012, as part of a comprehensive judicial reform in Hungary. The Supreme Court of the People’s Republic of Hungary was set up by the 1949 Communist Constitution (which created the “People’s Republic of Hungary”) and existed till the 1989 regime change in Hungary and the countries of Central and Eastern Europe. The official name of Hungary was changed from “People’s Republic of Hungary” to “Republic of Hungary” by the 1989 amendment to the 1949 Constitution. As a result of this constitutional amendment, in 1989 the “Supreme Court of the People’s Republic of Hungary” was renamed as the “Supreme Court of the Republic of Hungary”. In 2011 a new constitution was adopted by the Parliament of Hungary, entitled the “Fundamental Law of Hungary”. This new constitutional document ordered to set up the Curia of Hungary (in Hungarian: Kúria, which is the traditional historical name for the supreme judicial forum in Hungary), therefore it dissolved the former supreme judicial forum called the “Supreme Court of the Republic of Hungary” and replaced it by a new supreme judicial organ, the “Curia of Hungary”, which has partly different powers than the Supreme Court of the Republic of Hungary. Péter Darák has never been the president of the Supreme Court (of the Republic of Hungary), as the WikiDan61 article alleges. Péter Darák is the first president of the Curia of Hungary, which was set up to emphasise the current ruling party’s declared wish to emphasise at institutional level, too, Hungary’s symbolic return to the pre-Communist period. From the following it can be clearly seen that the quality of the 2-sentence Supreme Court of Hungary article written by WikiDan61 is insufficient both in terms of facts, depth and well-foundedness, therefore it should be removed from the Wikipedia site, primarily for the factual errors contained in it. The present Curia of Hungary article is comprehensive and exhaustive (as far as a Wikipedia article can be), therefore please remove WikiDan61’s article and allow to upload the Curia of Hungary article, which gives full elaboration of the institution. It would be a bit absurd to demand that the WikiDan61 article be elaborated, given that it contains erroneous information (even its title is incorrect) and presents the highest judicial forum of Hungary in merely 2 sentences.

Ad 2 As to the diagrams, please consider the following: As to the diagram „The Curia in the present Hungarian court system”, the information contained in the diagram is also fully elaborated in text form, below the diagram, therefore visually impaired readers can read the text, too, in case they find the diagram difficult to understand. The diagram, however, complements and adds to the texts and makes understanding easier for people having semantic and textual impairment. Therefore, I think that the present solution, namely that both diagram and textual elaboration is available in the article, is to the benefit of people having impairments, including visual impairment as well as semantic and textual impairment. The same holds true for the other diagram, „Organisation and operation of the Curia” with the difference that for reasons of proportion and importance, only the most important office-holders are indicated and explained in text form, too, below the diagram.
 * I take your point that the Curia, having been founded as part of Hungary's 2011 constitutional reform, is a distinct body from the Supreme Court of Hungary, but your draft writes about both bodies as if they were one. If you want to maintain the distinction, then your Curia article should start its history at 2012, relegating all prior history to the article about the Supreme Court. Also, I note that you have extensively referenced the Curia's own website. Independent sources are preferred. You have listed a fair number of other sources (which I have moved to the "Further reading" section); I would recommend that you cite some of the facts in the article to these publications rather than to the court's own website. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 13:46, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Curia of Hungary


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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! CptViraj (📧) 18:10, 12 October 2019 (UTC)