User talk:CTF83!/Archive 2

Help needed at Talk:The Debarted

 * Need help at the talk page if you can please? thanks.  Momusufan (talk) 05:28, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Re: I've never reported anyone for a 3RR violation, here is the template to use:
 * now go to Administrators%27_noticeboard/3RR, New reports go on the bottom of the page. Hope it helps you. Momusufan (talk) 05:45, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
 * It's been semi-protected for 5 days, just so you know. Momusufan (talk) 06:04, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

LGBT WikiProject Newsletter
Delivered by SatyrBot around 17:14, 3 March 2008 (UTC) SatyrBot (talk) 17:26, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Hey
How's life going? D u s t i talk to me 19:16, 29 February 2008 (UTC)


 * To the sandbox? D u s t i talk to me 19:20, 29 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Are you alive? D u s <font color="#0000ff">t <font color="#6600cc">i talk to me 18:18, 4 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Sandbox? <font face="comic sans ms"><font color="#ff0000">D <font color="#ff6600">u <font color="#009900">s <font color="#0000ff">t <font color="#6600cc">i talk to me 18:28, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Reply
Because the rule is meant to discourage linking to small obscure wikis on every page relating to the subject. However in this case, it's a wikia wiki with over 1000 articles and it's only the main article, so I see no harm in linking to it. If you'll check, you'll notice that many TV shows have links to a relating wiki. -- Scorpion0422 02:59, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
 * The Simpsons Wiki is hardly an opponent and part of the point of linking to a wiki is so people looking for crufty info will know where to find it. -- Scorpion0422 03:05, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes. -- Scorpion0422 04:20, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Admin coaching
I've just put up some new stuff. I'm going to be on a wikibreak until next Thursday at the earliest and will have a lot to catch up on when I get back, so feel free to take your time. Mr.  Z- man  20:01, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I'll put some more stuff up later, I may not have decent internet access for a while. As you seem to be having some issues with fair use, I'll cover that next. Mr.  Z- man  04:11, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm not too busy now, I've just been procrastinating for the past few days. I've put another section up. Mr.  Z- man  10:26, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
 * More posted! Mr.  Z- man  03:02, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Dial N for Nerder
So, what did you think? I think this was quite possibly my favorite episode of the season! The Dominator (talk) 04:54, 10 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Lol, we pretty much just wrote at the same time! It doesn't work and doesn't look like it's going to unless I get a new computer and it could take me months to build up the heart to lose a few thousand bucks to get a decent computer (I'm a cheap bastard). The Dominator (talk) 04:59, 10 March 2008 (UTC)


 * My Firefox doesn't work at all now, but I did try it and I get the same result, Netscape and Firefox are supported by the same company. It justs shows me a message that goes: Netscape can't open because the file isn't associated with any program" or some shit like that. The Dominator (talk) 05:03, 10 March 2008 (UTC)


 * I'll look into it later, I'm going to bed, later. The Dominator (talk) 05:20, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Davenport, Iowa
I received your request for a review of Davenport. Here are some comments:
 * Bring the history further into the 20th Century. Get some Davenport (or general Iowa) history books to help:✅
 * History of Davenport and Scott County, Iowa by Harry E. Downer (1910)
 * Davenport, where the Mississippi Runs West: A Survey of Davenport History & Architecture (1982)
 * Newspaper archives are invaluable, if you have the patience.
 * In "Geography" be more descriptive on the city's situation and its layout. A map would be invaluable here.
 * In "Demographics" don't just list census data, but rather provide a profile or identity. Comparing key or salient city characteristics (eg. average age) with the state's can help.
 * In "Notable natives" & "Points of interest" provide context of their relationship to the city, rather than simply listing. See Herne Bay, Kent and Herne Bay, Kent as an example. --maclean 02:24, 24 December 2007 (UTC)✅
 * for geography, i'm not sure what you mean by "be more descriptive on the city's situation and its layout." and about the map. you're not suggesting I put a map pic on here, right? <font color="#f00">C <font color="#f60">t <font color="#ff0">j <font color="#090">f <font color="#00f">8 <font color="#60c">3  talk 17:42, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
 * By "the city's situation" I mean how it is positioned vis-à-vis its surroundings, as in the natural environment or geological formations. This would be a natural extension on the Tornado Alley and Rivers paragraph. Its layout means its infrastructure and built environment. Providence, Rhode Island is a good example of describing the built environment. They are difficult to obtain but maps easily describe what the city looks like that paragraphs of prose would not accomplish. I've had some success getting towns to give maps like Image:Hudson's Hope BC map.PNG. --maclean 20:20, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Sorry for the late reply but I've been busy with other things lately. I'd say the suggestions for Davenport could also apply to other Iowa city articles as well, particularly Des Moines. I could try to help out here and there if time permits. --Iowahwyman (talk) 14:42, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

The Spam God
The edit I made to The Spam God's talk page should have not been a threat and should of been more of a reminder telling him to stop spamming. I just felt very silly at the time and and I did not mean to do it. --Dr. Ralph Wiggum (talk) 01:14, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Failure of your RfA
I saw this. If you think your anti-Bush opinion had any effect on failing your RfA, much less being the only reason it failed, you're going to fail your next RfA as well. The failure had nothing to do with your opinion of Bush. I strongly urge you to carefully read and understand the opposition in your RfA before you consider running another RfA, as well as waiting at least a few months before trying again. --Hammersoft (talk) 13:14, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm saying your opinion had nothing to do with it. I'm not saying the userbox had nothing to do with it. It would be in your interest to understand that, and the policy it violated. --Hammersoft (talk) 19:33, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Davenport
The new size of those two images looks good. I think the article would be better if you would adjust the size of the remaining images to match. It might also help to shorten the descriptions/captions of the photos. Captions should be short and descriptive of the photo; additional info, like the comment about the price of city hall (citation needed here?) is best put into the article text itself. But mostly, if you reduce the size of all the images, I think you'll see that they all fit within the appropriate sections quite well, and doesn't appear cluttered. Cheers! Dr. Cash (talk) 18:47, 21 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Why are the two images in 'culture' both different sizes, and different from all the rest that follow it. It looks a little odd that way. Dr. Cash (talk) 20:15, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Your comments
As one of the two only supporters of your recently failed RFA (the other being the nominator), I'm really, really not impressed by your comments here and especially here. I couldn't care less about your opinion of Bush, I find it completely irrelevant. What I do find relevant, though, is the ability to remain calm and cool-headed, neither of which is a trait you showed after failing RFA. Please try to relax and avoid making such comments if you would like my continued support in your next RFA, which should be at least 3 months down the road. Useight (talk) 01:03, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
 * What made me support your RFA? A lot of things. Your 9000+ edits. Your dedication to the project (seven straight months with 700+ edits). Your 41 reports to AIV. Your contributions to the mainspace. Your communicativeness, if that's a word, with other editors. Your much improved edit summary usage. I liked all those things. Useight (talk) 02:09, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Hey
Real sorry about your RfA failure, when you say that you're "burned out on Wikipedia" I hope you aren't considering quitting! That would make me very sad indeed. The Dominator (talk) 04:27, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I really hope you stay, why was your RfA closed so early, I don't think it was a WP:SNOW case and what the hell was up with the about twenty opposes solely because of the userbox? I didn't even get a chance to see the RfA, just saw the archive yesterday and had to kick myself for not paying attention to when it was starting. The Dominator (talk) 18:41, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Funny thing is, if the userbox said "believes" or "thinks" instead of "knows" I think it would have been acceptable as you're not stating a fact, still, I'd be more optimistic than to think that you were ruled out because of the actual opinion rather than the userbox, he's got like 15% approval ratings lol, so I doubt that the most of the people voting against you were actually pro-Bush. The Dominator (talk) 19:59, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Hey Ctjf83. Ditto what dominator said, hope you're not leaving! Thanks for the articles, I'll see what I can do. --Simpsons fan 66 11:20, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Long Time no talk
Hey, just wanted to check in. I'm sorry about your RFA, I was away while it was going on and didn't get to participate. How are you? <font face="comic sans ms"><font color="#ff0000">D <font color="#ff6600">u <font color="#009900">s <font color="#0000ff">t <font color="#6600cc">i talk to me 16:44, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

You, in general
Hey, sorry to hear that you're becoming disillusioned with Wikipedia. I hope this didn't come as a result of your unsuccessful RFA last month, as you are a really good editor even if you are not ready to become a mop-wielder just yet! I went through the same kind of thing a while back and decided to leave the Wiki, but a message similar to this managed to raise my spirits and, well, here I am today! This is in no way trying to force you to come back, I'm just letting you know how much we actually appreciate everything you do, have done and will do! -- THE <b style="color:black;">DARK LORD</b> TROMBONATOR  09:57, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Antoine LeClaire
Do you know if this is the same person who translated Black Hawk's autobiography? Thanks. IvoShandor (talk) 14:09, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
 * He's credited as the translator and multiple sources confirm he did do that. LeClaire comes up time again in translation situations, especially treaty signings. It has to be the same person, the only reason I question is that I have seen various spellings of the name, but that doesn't really mean anything I guess. Thanks for getting back to me. IvoShandor (talk) 17:31, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Image:9F19.gif
Do you have a source for this image? Cirt (talk) 01:51, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay, guess I'll have to find another image for that article. Cirt (talk) 02:15, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
 * My apologies, the deletion notice was automatically generated when I tagged the image page itself for deletion. :( Cirt (talk) 03:29, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Yea, we still buds. No worries mate.  Slàinte, Cirt (talk) 05:12, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Hey there
It would be great to see you back on IRC soon. Don't let the failed RfA get you down. :) Qst (talk) 15:36, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Conversion script continued for lightmouse's page
Try my script in your monobook for most pages: It converts to and from both imperial/U.S. customary and metric units. Just like Lightmouse's script, it is not prefect so manually checking your changes is a must!

In the page that you pointed out (here), no script will help with that table because it is a sortable table. The conversions will really mess up the sortablity of the table. In order to add square miles you will need to added a new separate column to the table. I'll see if I can help you with that...

I think if you add the line: // User:MJCdetroit/monobook.js to your monobook it should work after you clear your cache by hitting shift and reload. Otherwise, just copy and paste the code.

&mdash; <font color="#0000CD">MJC <font color="#FF0000">detroit (yak) 12:31, 21 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Ahh, it's good to see someone else as burnt out and fed up with wikipedia as I am! Thanks for telling me about your script, but when I copied it into my monobook, it didn't work. Maybe you can look to see what I need to fix to make it work, I did clear my cache too. <font color="#ff0000">C <font color="#ff6600">t <font color="#ffff00">j <font color="#009900">f <font color="#0000ff">8 <font color="#6600cc">3 Talk 16:14, 21 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I don't have a lot of time but I'll copy and paste the code manually after I do some tweaks to it. I'll let you know when.  I think that I'll be able to add the square miles that table but it will be awhile because...well because.  And yes, burnt out, it's unfortunate and we're not alone!    &mdash; <font color="#0000CD">MJC <font color="#FF0000">detroit  (yak) 16:53, 21 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I tried something. Clear your cache a few times and see if it works.  When you click 'edit' you should see some additional tabs labeled "dates", "general" and "combined".  &mdash; <font color="#0000CD">MJC <font color="#FF0000">detroit  (yak) 17:21, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok, it works! Thanks! Is it possible to copy it into a script for AWB? <font color="#ff0000">C <font color="#ff6600">t <font color="#ffff00">j <font color="#009900">f <font color="#0000ff">8 <font color="#6600cc">3 Talk 20:25, 21 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm not 100% sure (am no expert on this stuff) but I think it would have to be done line by line and broken apart. For example the line:

txt.value=txt.value.replace(/(\s)(\d{1,3}),?(000),?(000)(?:\s|-| )square(?:\s|-| )kilometres([^²\(]{4})/gi, '$1$2$3$4 sqkm$5');


 * would break into FIND= (\s)(\d{1,3}),?(000),?(000)(?:\s|-| )square(?:\s|-| )kilometres([^²\(]{4})


 * and in the REPLACE field would go:

$1$2$3$4 sqkm$5


 * I'm on my Mac right now so I can't check AWB for you. &mdash; <font color="#0000CD">MJC <font color="#FF0000">detroit (yak) 00:49, 22 May 2008 (UTC)


 * It didn't find anything in the 15 pages I checked. It's no big deal, I'm not sure why I asked, cause if I know how to do it, it will probably mean spending more time on here, which I don't want to do! Thank though! <font color="#ff0000">C <font color="#ff6600">t <font color="#ffff00">j <font color="#009900">f <font color="#0000ff">8 <font color="#6600cc">3 Talk 01:31, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Back?
Can it be? Is Ctjf83 back on Wikipedia? <tt>The Dominator</tt><tt>TalkEdits</tt> 05:02, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I've been taking it easier too, have a lot of work in real life, only made about 350 edits last month compared to almost 2K in April, March etc. See ya! <tt>The Dominator</tt><tt>TalkEdits</tt> 14:06, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Simpsons List
Hey, I got your message, however I did post a reference at the bottom, on the reference list. I'm not sure how to do a footnote yet but that's probably what I should have done. The reference I posted is from Play.com and the release date is also posted on the The Simpsons DVD release page on Wikipedia. I ask that the post please be reverted. Thanks. Original Hebert (talk) 07:05, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * UPDATE: Awesome, thanks for the response and the tip. Original Hebert (talk) 05:24, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Welcome back
I'm not sure. The fact that's she's dead would make her an ex-wife, same with Amber. It's good to have you back, did you see Troy McClure on the main page (although one guy now wants to delist it because it has 2 images, no quotes and a mere 90% of the sentences have citations) -- Scorpion0422 17:13, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Several other sources specifically say that this does not mean that the series has been renewed for four seasons. -- Scorpion0422 17:51, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Stewie
Stewie belongs in either the Fictional gay men category, the Fictional LGBT characters category, or the Fictional bisexuals category.

If someone is "almost certainly gay," chances are they aren't straight. --DrBat (talk) 23:03, 8 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Clay Aiken isn't a fictional character.
 * And yes, I've read the article. --DrBat (talk) 03:07, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

This is not worth revert-warring over. Let's cool it a little. Further comment on User talk:DrBat. / edg ☺ ☭ 15:27, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Image:US states smoking bans-2008-04-15.png
Hello Ctjf83! It would appear that Pennsylvania is about to pass a state-wide smoking ban. It's pretty much a given that it will be signed by the Governor in the next few days, so if you are still the one who changes the colors, it would be much appreciated that when it happens that the map is updated. Much appreciated, Cshulse (talk) 20:37, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Can you update Image:US states smoking bans-2008-04-15.png, found on List of smoking bans in the United States so that Pennsylvania is yellow? Thanks. --Rajah (talk) 20:08, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

History of Davenport
Hey, good work on the article. About citing page numbers see Citing sources. You pretty much have to include the page number(s) whenever you make a specific statement using a book or article with page numbers. Without this, the referencing section will not be able to pass the GA review. If you would like some examples check out articles like Late Middle Ages, or History of Indiana. On every other point I think the article is passable - It will need work on the prose, more referencing, and more information on city government history to pass the FA review. Charles Edward 17:17, 17 June 2008 (UTC)


 * If you think it will be more than a week then we can fail the review and you can resubmit once it is ready. The refs are the only thing holding it back at this point. Charles Edward 18:28, 17 June 2008 (UTC)


 * No problem, get the page numbers in and you will be about set. And yougot it right, just a ref tag, author last name, then page number. And make sure you list the whole book in a new "sources" section. Charles Edward 18:18, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Neighborhoods of Davenport, Iowa
Hi there. I was looking up what the Wikipedia guidelines have to say in this area, but in the process I think I have found an issue with nominating Neighborhoods of Davenport, Iowa for GA status; the article, in essence, is a list, which by their very nature cannot qualify for GA status. All the other "Neighborhoods of Pick Any Town, USA" are lists. The one on Davenport just happens to be a list with more detail. Each one of the neighborhoods, however, could potentially have its own article which would then qualify for GA status, provided it meets the criteria.

Instead of a good article, I would suggestion that you nominate Neighborhoods of Davenport, Iowa as a Featured list candidate instead. Best, epicAdam (talk) 17:19, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, it sure is a list, albeit a short one. At it's heart, it's just a list of the different neighborhoods such as Downtown, West Third Street, Hamburg, Cork Hill, East Fourteenth Street, College Square, etc. Really, that's a list. I would just nominate for Feature list or request help from those folks to see what you can do to improve it. If you'd like, you can use the information collected for the Neighborhoods list and make each one of those neighborhoods an article, such as articles on Lafayette Square, Buffalo, Milwaukee Avenue Historic District, and Washington Park, Chicago (neighborhood). Each one of those are good articles about individual neighborhoods. But also notice, that each one of those goes into considerable detail. So before you make an article about each neighborhood in Davenport, make sure that you have plenty of stuff to say about it before nominating it for GA status! At the moment, the information collected for each one would be enough for stub-class articles. Hope this helps! Best, epicAdam (talk) 20:31, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, there isn't anything a step below "Featured list". Although, I don't think your list isn't up for being a featured list. You can always nominate it and see what suggestions the list reviewers have, if any. Oh yeah, and I forgot. Happy Pride Month. Hopefully you guys have something neat out there in order to celebrate. Best, epicAdam (talk) 20:46, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't know much about the featured lists nor am I familiar with their criteria (just discovered it this morning), so I don't think I'd be the one to pass it... The featured list candidate page does seem like it's pretty active so you'd likely get a quick review one way or the other. Have fun in Boystown, we're still cleaning up from D.C. pride over here. :-) Later! epicAdam (talk) 20:59, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I would have to agree with Epicadam. This does look like a list, similar to this article which I encountered at WP:FLC. I would recommend you find more sources for the article, preferably ones that were publishing recently, since it seems you're relying on a 20+ year old publication to describe houses and buildings (which easily may have changed since then). Nishkid64 (Make articles, not wikidrama) 21:19, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * That depends. Do you know who published it? Nishkid64 (Make articles, not wikidrama) 14:55, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
 * It looks fine to me. Is the Quad Cities bureau operated by the cities' governments? Nishkid64 (Make articles, not wikidrama) 12:39, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I guess it could be considered a reliable source, assuming that the Quad Cities bureau is an authority on the matters being discussed in the pamphlet. Nishkid64 (Make articles, not wikidrama) 12:23, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Leonardo's drawings
Leonardo's artworks fell into several categories: paintings, drawings, sculpture. The Mona Lisa and the Last Supper are his two best-known paintings. This is not OR. They appear in far more books, reproductions, parodies, tapestries, carpets, stamps, cameos etc than any of his other works. The Vitruvian Man is by far his best-known drawing, being reproduced in every media from gold-plated cigarette boxes to t-shirts. The statement in the box says that it is his best known drawing', not that it is his best known artwork. Amandajm (talk) 14:52, 1 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Putting a Fact tag on it is pointless. The evidence that it is his best known drawing is a thousand publications. Moreover, a very large number of reproductions have nothing whatsoever to do with the man and his art; the work is used to illustrate books and articles on science, philosophy, drawing, mathematics...you name it.
 * Facts really only need citation if they are questionable, or may be challenged by another person who knows the subject. If someone comes along and doesn't notice that the statement says "drawing", then they simply need to read it properly. Amandajm (talk) 06:13, 2 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Ctjf, you just referred to that drawing as "a portrait". Previously, you equated "drawing" with "painting" or "artwork". This does indicate that you are a person who has little knowledge of pictures. Even so, it surprises me that you don't know that this is Leonardo's most famous drawing. Art History books don't normally state "this is Leonardo's most famous drawing". They just reproduce it, over and over again, as do history books, philosophy books, mathematics text boooks, anatomy text books, posters, t-shirts, coffee mugs, stamps, book-covers, etc etc etc etc. You may not recognise that this drawing is by Leonardo, but most people who have a good general knowledge do know it and recognise it, in the same way as they recognise the Taj Mahal, Che Guevera and the symbol for Pi. The picture is so well-known that in Dan Brown's "Da Vinci Code" the book starts off with the Louvre Museum curator deliberately laying himself in that position to die. In the book, the curator knows that his position will be immediately recognisable to anyone who sees him. What he does is a clue. It's not just a clue for a highly-knowledgable expert on symbolism; it is also a clue for the readers. Brown expects that his readers will know this drawing, because it's general knowledge; it's the sort of thing that a kid may not know, but that most people who have finished high school have seen and know about. So what you are doing is a bit like demanding a reference that proves that the Statue of Liberty is the best-known landmark in New York, or that John Lennon was a member of the Beatles.


 * If you look up Vitruvian Man on Google images, you'll get over 19,000 hits. Now, that is roundabout 19,000 reproductions of that famous image, or a parody of it, in which the person who has put up the image has actually called it by the correct name. This doesn't include all the times that the image appears un-named, or called something like "Leonardo's drawing showing proportion of the human form" or "Leonardo's drawing of a man in a square and a circle". (Normally, when you Google search an image, you get all sorts of pics as well as the one you really want, eg a search on Mona Lisa will bring up girls' faces, cats, flowers and all sorts of things, but nearly every single one of the 19,000 Vitruvian man images show either the actual drawing or a copy of some sort.)


 * Here are some examples, all of which presume that you, the viewer, will immediately recognise the source. No other drawing (NOTE: I mean drawing, not painting) in the world has been used in this way. Hope you enjoy them!:

,, , , ,,, , , , , , , , ,, ,


 * Amandajm (talk) 02:44, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

The Duck Creek Flooding
Hey CTJF83, the flooding incidents I mentioned were facts. Those were really important statements of very urgent priority. I've tried representing sources, except Wikipedia doesn't always regard the sources connected with the Floods of 1990 and 2008 around Duck Creek in the Quad Cities area. Help me please. Amandajoan1872 (talk) 21:51, 17 July 2008 (UTC)


 * The Duck Creek Flooding during 1990 was documented under Davenport Iowa for reasons of urgent importance. The same thing for Thursday June 12 for 2008. The River Area isn't the only area in Davenport and Bettendorf which is flooding prone. Duck Creek is extremely vunerable to flash floodings. But not everybody is actually aware, particularly those who are the newest residents to Davenport Iowa. So many articles on the Flood of 1990 around Duck Creek and the Flash Flood of 2008 exist. it's important to include the facts. The National Weather Service are excellent source for true information about the Quad Cities. Newspaper articles that mention the Floods are excellent pieces of sources too, dear. Amandajoan1872 (talk) 07:27, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
 * You'll be better qualified searching sources on Internet than me, really. The Duck Creek Flooding information has many sources and facts. Amandajoan1872 (talk) 16:42, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Smosh refs
Actually, on Smosh's YouTube channel under the featured video where some links are provided, myspace.com/smosh is listed. But yeah, it is weird that they would put that they're 70 years old. Maybe on MySpace (as I don't know) you can't change your age, so maybe they were goofing off and got it stuck like that or something.

Anyways, cheers. --ÇɧĭДfrĪĔпd12 (talk) 03:22, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Re:Amber Simpson
I don't need to watch the clip, because I watched the episode a few hours ago. I'm pretty sure he said Pigal, and according to one person I asked, the closed captioning for the episode says Pigal. -- Scorpion0422 03:11, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure about her father, but I'm pretty sure Marge's mother's name was mentioned in Lady Bouvier's Lover. -- Scorpion0422 22:59, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

LGBT WikiProject Newsletter (July 2008)

 * Newsletter delivery by xenobot  12:54, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Re: Troy McClure
I thought ex-wife counted as a relative. Especially considering this is a cartoon. Gran2 21:09, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
 * The fact is, they were married once. They may not be relatives in the eyes of the law, but this is a cartoon. Selma even still uses Troy surname. If you don't think an ex-spouse counts as a relative, then you should conduct a poll and garner consensous. Because I think they count as a relative, and I'm pretty sure a fair few other people would to. Gran2 21:40, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
 * "Much Apu About Nothing" - "My name's already Selma Bouvier Terwilliger Hutz McClure. It's long enough without Nahassapassawhatever." Gran2 21:46, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Rollback granted
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 * Getting rollback is no more momentous than installing Twinkle.
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PBS
Hi Ctjf83!

Are you a machine?

Telling other people which rules they are in danger to violate, without looking what exactly happened?

Perhaps there are other rules elsewhere in this world which shouldn't be violated as well. Have a look, for example, at the Letter by Paul to the Romans, first chapter, verses 24 to 32.

Take care! --Tom David (talk) 23:30, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

LOL!
Don't template the regulars, mate, especially when they are admins! Guy (Help!) 22:21, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
 * You should also be advised that anyone (except the creator of the article) can remove the speedy tags. Doesn't necessary have to be an admin. – xeno  ( talk ) 22:25, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Nope, anyone except the creator, can contest the speedy tag by removing it. That's why that template you left for JzG says do not remove speedy tags from articles you have created yourself. After that, you have WP:PROD or WP:AFD if you still think the article doesn't belong. – xeno  ( talk ) 22:28, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

First of all...
There was already a state on there as Nebraska and I knew that wasn't true. So I searched around a bit on Wikipedia and found that Matt Groening said himself that is was there. Read the reference I put down! It's true. I've heard it many times. --Alkalinetrio78 (talk) 02:50, 16 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah, those Nebraska freaks just did it out of weirdness. I did it out of information.  Thanks for checking out my ref.--Alkalinetrio78 (talk) 02:54, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Why? It's there because it's true.  That's very lame (whatever it is you're trying to accomplish).  Just read the article.  Matt Groening HIMSELF said so! --Alkalinetrio78 (talk) 02:58, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Alrighty then.--Alkalinetrio78 (talk) 03:02, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

No Problem
Sorry,that page was by accident.Some editing is going on.Hope that will solve the problem.You can go ahead and delete that page. Fort5000 (talk) 16:42, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Help
Thanks for the help, but I really don't need it. THX

HappyCat12 (talk) 17:43, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

RE: Warnings
I would have, and I normally do, but I had to make a manual edit, and didn't think to take the time to go and do a manual warning. I hope this hasn't inconvenienced you too much. RandorXeus (talk) 22:14, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for reverting my userpage. It gets vandalized an awful lot.  Most people just ignore userpage vandalism.  Happy Editing! RandorXeus (talk) 22:17, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Do you work for Wikipedia?
do you work for wikipedia? if you do i would like to talk to you but if you doon't i will contact wikipedia and tell them that you are sendin g delition notices to me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chapo336 (talk • contribs) 22:59, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

i dont think so, why would i write it then have you put out a notice for speedy deletion of that little bit of info. —Preceding unsigned comment added by User: (talk • contribs)

Speedy declined
Hi Ctjf83. I declined the speedy tag you added to Life123, as it was the subject of third-party coverage in multiple sources. Feel free to bring it to Articles for deletion if you believe it does not meet our notability requirements. Thanks. Paul Erik (talk) (contribs) 23:08, 18 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes, I can understand that it appeared to be a speedy candidate when you came to it. It did to me, as well! But I did a quick check on Google News, saw that there were some sources, and added them to the article. Paul Erik  (talk) (contribs) 00:02, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Just Joined new pages partol.
Hey, i need help real quick, i have just joined the new pages partol and i am still new to wikipedia, so can you help me find out where i can find new articals? thanks. Chapo336--Chapo336 (talk) 22:49, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Sure thing i will stop editing, thanks for your advice. have a great day!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chapo336 (talk • contribs) 15:05, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * sure thanks have a great day —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chapo336 (talk • contribs) 22:33, 20 August 2008 (UTC)  Should i delete the warnings i got from wikipedia?

Canvass
Your lecture on canvassing is not welcome. I put the notice on the individuals who had contributed to a similar article and issue at [], not on the talk pages of people who I thought would agree with me. The Red Hat of Pat Ferrick t 10:35, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I would appreciate it if you would strike out your comments at the AfD.  The Red Hat of Pat Ferrick t 10:37, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Still waiting for that strikeout...  The Red Hat of Pat Ferrick t 23:45, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I posted on the talk pages of (a) the people that stayed the course to the end of the discussion and (b) the people that were not revealed to be sockpuppets. I know you have not said you would strike it out.  I am asking you politely to strike out your public accusation of canvassing.   The Red Hat of Pat Ferrick t 03:14, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

External link to Youtube video
The link I added to the article "Swing bridge" is an uncopyrighted clip showing the man-powered turning of a capstan-driven railroad swing bridge. The action is illustrative and is not shown elsewhere in the article. It seems to fall under the exceptions mentioned on the page Wikipedia:External links/YouTube; namely, " However, there are cases where video is the best way to illustrate an article or concept. Examples would include illustration of motions in articles about mechanics or machinery,... "

It seems to me that this is an appropriate and useful link. The link was removed once by you and apparently more than once by a "bot." —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr.Slade (talk • contribs) 13:24, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Re: Image:US LGBT civil rights animation.gif
Thanks a lot for the heads-up on Louisiana. I actually already learned of it this morning, but thought I would hold off changing the maps until Friday when the executive order expires, but I revised the maps just now since it looks like it's sure to happen, and there's no reason to put it off. It's great that someone else is keeping a close tab on the maps. I'm going to start adding references for all the stages in the animated map, some of the legislative changes are hard to find on the web, especially the executive orders from the 70s-90s. Thanks again. --Slyguy (talk) 00:10, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

3RR?
I don't really know the rules on this, but are we in any danger of violating WP:3RR on this Batman stuff? I've never been blocked before, and I don't want to have it happen over some silly shit like this. Unschool (talk) 20:06, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see he's finally been blocked. I feel better. Unschool (talk) 20:07, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

IRC
No real reason. I just never often remember, or get around to going on IRC. I'll try and remember to pop on tomorrow at some point. Gran2 21:30, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

User_Talk:GSK
Sorry about that - I assumed that removing the information was considered vandalism. Thank you for correcting that. --The One They Call GSK // talk to me // 15:54, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Userbox
Well for one, there are thousands of people using the non-homophobic userboxes, so I assumed that at least one person would use the homophobic one. Second, I thought you were supposed to represent as many points of view as possible in political userboxes. Correct me if i'm wrong. Tezkag72 (talk) 12:53, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Zibral
Because I get the impression that his first language isn't English and that he's not clear what he's doing wrong. I was about to warn him - once I've done that and if he continues, then please feel free to return (I speedied two of his articles anyway though). <b style="color:black;">Black Kite</b> 01:21, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Userboxes
Done :) --Yankeesrj12 (talk) 02:27, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

When You Dish Upon a Star
Sorry, meant to post this earlier, but what about the citations for the cultural references section? Qst (talk) 11:43, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Re:CR
No, because SNPP is considered a fansite and not a reliable third party source. Strangely enough, we are allowed to include links to it though in the EL section. -- Scorpion0422 21:59, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism on Talk:Seth MacFarlane
Leave it alone --Gotl342 (talk) 20:11, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * DO NOT vandalize talk pages by removing comments.  C T J F 8 3 Talk 20:12, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I am not vandalizing anyhthing. I am a friend of his and he doesn't want it there. It still says prevous comments deleted, so what's the difference. --Gotl342 (talk) 20:15, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I already explained this to him several times, knock it off, or you will be blocked!!  C T J F 8 3 Talk 20:16, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Get an adminstraor to send me a message personally, saying that it has to say his username in the previously delted part. --Gotl342 (talk) 20:19, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * That's not my job, you go do it. You are vandalizing the page  C T J F 8 3 Talk 20:20, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * If it's not your job then leave it alone. Why do you care? --Gotl342 (talk) 20:21, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * By the way, randomface132 having sock puppets is against policy too.  C T J F 8 3 Talk 20:23, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

There is NOTHING on that page you sent that said you have to have your name inside the brackets. All it says is you have to have something written in the brackets. It is not vandalism, and there was no right to block Gotl342. Nothing was violated, and there is nothing wrong with deleting my name from the brackets, as long as it says previous comments deleted. --Randomface123 (talk) 21:25, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * You already didn't follow it, it says to strike comments, not delete them. Clearly an admin agreed with me, that's why your other sock puppet names are blocked  C T J F 8 3 Talk 21:27, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * That is all recommended, it did not say any of that stuff was mandatory. Why does this even concern you? --Randomface123 (talk) 21:33, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * What ever, delete your name at the top, but do not delete your name under kmccoy's section, as that clearly violates policy. Also, don't ask me to delete the convos off my talk page, because I won't!  C T J F 8 3 Talk 21:35, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, I don't appreciate you putting this whole conversation up, it is not necessary. But if you insist, then I guess there is nothing I can do. --Randomface123 (talk) 21:44, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * It is necessary, because the first time I gave you the benefit of the doubt, but now you are using sock puppets to remove comments. No more benefit of the doubt.  C T J F 8 3 Talk 21:46, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * That was not a sock puppet. I did not mean for people to mess with your talk page, I just simply asked for their help. I apologize if they did something you didn't like, but I would appreciate if you removed this conversation. --Randomface123 (talk) 21:54, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I already explained to you I will not remove this conversation, so don't ask again! You also asked for them to help you delete stuff you have already been warned about, and they claimed to be your friend.  C T J F 8 3 Talk 22:00, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I can assure you none of them will do any more. I do not want my comments on here. --Randomface123 (talk) 22:04, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Too bad! They are staying!  C T J F 8 3 Talk 22:06, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Why does it matter? I assure you I will never bother you again. Please be flexible. If there was any other way to talk, I would do it but unfortunatley these comments are posted so everyone can see them. The issue is over, and thank you for letting me delete my name on the talk page. I will not talk about it anymore if you delete my comments on here. --Randomface123 (talk) 22:11, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Can I put brackets then? Why do you insist this be here? --Randomface123 (talk) 22:19, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Pictogram voting oppose.svg Declined Clearly I won't let you put it in brackets, or delete it. So deal with it, or you will be warned!  C T J F 8 3 Talk 22:20, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Why? --Randomface123 (talk) 22:25, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I told you I won't comment on it again, what more do you want? --Randomface123 (talk) 22:27, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * DO NOT post anything else on my talk page about this matter, or I will report you for vandalism, LAST WARNING!!!  C T J F 8 3 Talk 22:28, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Is it going to be archived or anything? Why can't you delete my comments I promise I will not comment again. --Randomface123 (talk) 22:41, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * You deleted his but not mine? Why are you doing this just to prove a point. If you would just delete them you could end this. --Randomface123 (talk) 00:32, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
 * or you could end it, by not harassing me, and dealing with the comments you made  C T J F 8 3 Talk 00:33, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I am sorry, ok. I didn't mean for these comments to sound like harassment. I am just trying to ask you nicely, and I apologize. --Randomface123 (talk) 00:36, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok, you have two options, 1: deal with them on here for the next 7 days, until they are automatically archived, or 2: keep bugging me about them, and I'll leave them on here for years and years. Your choice...by the way, not archiving them is not an option.  C T J F 8 3 Talk 00:40, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Although I'd rather have them deleted, I'll take option 1. --Randomface123 (talk) 00:48, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Chat
Make what easier? I don't know what the chat system is (so, no I don't :)).   BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  22:08, 5 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I followed the link, but could not find "wpsimpsons". It was also locking up my browser, so I closed it.   BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  22:18, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

IRC
I've seen you somewhere on IRC before! Gary <b style="color:#02b;">King</b> ( talk ) 01:15, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Mayored to the Mob
There are a couple of unsourced cultural refs, so if you want to nip on IRC, we can get them sorted out before GAC. :) Qst (talk) 16:33, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:ChiPitts area.png listed for deletion
An image or media file that you uploaded or altered, Image:ChiPitts area.png, has been listed at Images and media for deletion. Please see the to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Powers T 22:41, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Davenport PR
Yes, I'd be glad to help if I can. I'll try to get to this tomorrow (Sunday). Finetooth (talk) 03:27, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Homer
Done :-) Giggy (talk) 03:39, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Featured topic changes
Hey, actually I have been working slowly but steadily on Marge in Chains and Brother from the Same Planet so I'd like to continue on with those if that is alright. I can't speak for so you might want to ask him, and unfortunately  has not been around here for a while. Cirt (talk) 17:41, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Sounds good...Join us in IRC  C T J F 8 3 Talk 17:42, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 * No time for IRC due to busy w/ IRL stuff, perhaps in a couple days. Cirt (talk) 17:44, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok, when ever you get the chance! :)  C T J F 8 3 Talk 17:46, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Question
You have see my discussion, so could you do it? Also, when someone sends a message on the talk page, usually there is a yellow rectangle appears on top of page to notice user about it, but now I didn't see it anymore, why is that? 71.107.79.64 (talk) 22:09, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Not either. 71.107.79.64 (talk) 22:15, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Re: reversion
No problem. I never watch that show, so I wouldn't know. Thanks for letting me know that you removed my warning. J.delanoy <sup style="color:red;">gabs <sub style="color:blue;">adds 19:15, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

re: Simpsons topics
Kind of. I noticed that 6th season has 8 GAs, while the 10th has only 5... so the 6th looks more doable. Nergaal (talk) 01:15, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * see also WikiProject The Simpsons/Featured topic Drive/seasons Nergaal (talk) 01:31, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

CfD discussion
I agree that most people use "Athlete" to mean "anyone who does sports," but it is more formally used only for Track and Field. I watched the 2008 Olympics on the NBC webpage, and they use the word "athletics" for T&F. I understand your point, but it is being used differently. &mdash;<font color="#006600">Goodtimber (walk/talk) 03:22, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

HG Misuse.
Your Huggle might of screwed up, because I believe in good faith that my edit was legitimate. Please do not revert without a reason, as it makes me think you think that all IP's are vandals. 98.226.32.129 (talk) 03:34, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

PD discography
Look again on that one. That's the reason I put a note in the edit summary: that column corresponds to the "Hot Dance Club" chart. That song only charted on the "Hot Dance Airplay" chart.Kww (talk) 21:47, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks...
...for cleaning my Talk page of vandalism. <b style="color:#8080ff;">  SIS </b>  22:44, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * You are very welcome...any time! :)  C T J F 8 3 Talk 22:46, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * The joys of working on Wikipedia... ;-) <b style="color:#8080ff;">  SIS </b>  23:24, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * HAHA, I kinda of take it as a compliment in a way...means we are "doing our job" by rvting vandalism!  C T J F 8 3 Talk 23:26, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * True. And because of that...


 * Thank you very much!!!! It is greatly appreciated!!! :-D  C T J F 8 3 Talk 23:33, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks also for reverting edits to my page. What a twit that was! (Though he does have a point about Iowa boys.. y'all grow some very pretty ones there.) Prince of Canadat 00:01, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * LMFAO!!!! I must be finding the wrong guys then ;)  C T J F 8 3 Talk 00:03, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Awww... when I lived there (Grinnell) there were plenty ;) Prince of Canadat 00:05, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * HAHA, road trip!!!!  C T J F 8 3 Talk 00:09, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

AWB
I don't have any specific group of articles I'd like to convert. I just think almost all articles with one form of distance measurements would work well with conversions on them, so everyone understand the distance, not just those people in America or metric countries. Also, in which case would there be some sort of measurement as a reference?  C T J F 8 3 Talk 01:42, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * i completely agree... my testing spree was on all pages under Category:Rodents and i think i fine tuned it pretty well, only a couple false positives. Like I said before though, given how some articles are written, there's still a fair amount of proofreading you need to do with some replacements in order to make sure the article is still readable and you aren't being overly redundant.  Given the level of extra effort by the user, it's not something to be implemented automatically by AWB - it's goal is to help editors do things faster, but not neccessarily all their work, that's why even if you click spellcheck, there's a big annoying warning box to remind you to check every edit.  How comfortable are you with regex? I can show you the steps i took and who knows, you have some better ideas :) -ΖαππερΝαππερ BabelAlexandria 19:44, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * If you are talking about the expressions, I have no idea how to use them. You'd have to teach me, or do it for me ;)  C T J F 8 3 Talk 21:04, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * sorry about not getting back to you right away, I don't usually watch people's talk pages, and i've been slightly preoccupied with articles and the discussion at Wikipedia:Notability/RFC:compromise. Anyways, I've put together an explanation of how to use convert with the Find & Replace function in AWB, often referred to as an RETF or Regex fix (clicky). -ΖαππερΝαππερ BabelAlexandria 05:36, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * It works pretty well...a few problems, dunno if you could fix this, if not, I'll fix them on the page if there is a number and the word in, it converts those, which that might not be fixable, and it sometimes converts dates. Good job though! :)  C T J F 8 3 Talk 22:25, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * no, there's no way to really prevent it from fixing phrases like "...there were five in the hallway..." and dates get converted for the same reason (in). However, if you find it trying to adjust a date (other than those preceding in), leave a link to the article on my talk page - in is the only known false positive.  Also, since your attention is drawn to them, you can try applying date to those that are between 1970-2038, this will prevent false postives in the future and prepare articles for when date preferences can be set in the mediawiki software. -ΖαππερΝαππερ BabelAlexandria 17:48, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok, thank you, I'll try that! :)  C T J F 8 3 Talk 17:51, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Verizon Wireless
Hello - Instead of just removing a broken reference use google to find a new source. Often the same article can be found on a different site. Cheers E_dog95'   Hi ' 23:52, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes. Thanks. I tried my fix too hurriedly and messed that process up, but now it's back in line. Thanks again! E_dog95'   Hi ' 23:59, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Terry Sanderson (writer)
I'm really not good with those deletion procedures. Would you care to do it urself?Zigzig20s (talk) 01:18, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeh, not notable, though some members who are family seem to suggest that he is: . Do you live in Iowa? I was sans the internet for a couple of month and I don't seem to know most of the new members :(  Zigzig20s (talk) 03:40, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I didn't have access to the internet, I was moving places. Never been to Iowa but I do research in American lit. Would u be able to take pictures of small towns in Iowa btw? That can be very useful when I study descriptions from novels about small-town America.Zigzig20s (talk) 03:51, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
 * France/England. I haven't come across Iowa towns in fiction yet but if you could drive around and take some pictures, here is the list . Perhaps Brighton, Iowa would be funny - the UK's gay capital is Brighton.Zigzig20s (talk) 19:42, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
 * If you could do places close to where u live, that'd be great. I don't want to seem too pushy. Let me know which towns u could take pictures of. As for the nom, I'm still not sure why that guy has a page but perhaps we should let it be for a while.Zigzig20s (talk) 20:01, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Any town that doesn't have a picture. For instance, Riverdale, Iowa, Bettendorf, Iowa, Long Grove, Iowa, Eldridge, Iowa, Blue Grass, Iowa...I could go on and on and on...Pictures of the main streets, cityhall, ancient buildings, and so forth, would be great. Are those two small towns as well: Moline, Illinois, Rock Island, Illinois? If so it'd be great to create referenced pages for them.Zigzig20s (talk) 20:24, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I like small towns generally. It gives a sense of what America is like beyond NY, LA and SF. Is there a gay scene in Davenport? Is it homophobic?Zigzig20s (talk) 20:32, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh now, ur making me want to move to Iowa LOL! Would u be able to take pictures of ur local gay scene as well?Zigzig20s (talk) 15:11, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Chicago sounds great. Earlier on today I finished Theodore Dreiser's Jennie Gerhardt, which partly takes place in Chicago. (I then proceeded to create the page for Wikipedia...) It would be great to see the place for myself!Zigzig20s (talk) 02:44, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Alexander Hamilton
Most historians is what Forrest McDonald, the only recent historian whom I know of to support 1757, actually says. This is part of his footnote on p. 366, as now indicated; please read edits before you revert them. That detail was taken out of the footnote some time ago, on the ground that few readers would care. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 20:20, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I will give you time to read this message. I expect a retraction; I cited a source, and have now explicitly indicated it to you. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 20:23, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * In fact, I have read all of the current major lives; but Forrest McDonald says, in the note cited, that most historians disagree with him. That should be enough. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 20:26, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Read WP:WEASEL? I helped to write it, and therefore see the difference. In this case, it is not our generalization, it is the statement of a secondary source. (Since McDonald is arguing for 1757, it is also an admission against interest, and therefore doubly credible.)

The two dates are not equally supported; McDonald does have an argument, so we should continue to mention both. But to fail to distinguish between them is to mislead the reader; 1757 is a minority opinion, and most sources which adopt it are either from before 1950, or have not kept up with the literature.

If you wish to pursue this further, I commend one of the several forms of dispute resolution. I have seen your case, and am unconvinced. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 22:44, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Davenport addition
I find it interesting and not overly long. Sometimes it helps to let new material sit for a day or two and then self-edit. I see places where the prose could be tighter. A small example would be the word "both" in the phrase "Davenport, and rival neighbor Rockingham both campaigned... " If you delete "both", the phrase says the same thing more concisely.

The paragraphing in the new section is a little odd. I'd be inclined to put the two-town rivalry in one paragraph, the Germans in another, and the railroad material in the next two. The first railroad paragraph would begin with "The first railroad bridge... ", and the second would be as you have it. You might need to add another sentence about the Germans to make this work. Overall, I'd suggest a copyedit by an outsider when you finish making your major changes. Finetooth (talk) 02:22, 30 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I've been happy to help with the PR, but I'm largely avoiding copyediting commitments. In any case, it would be good to have an entirely fresh set of eyes looking this over. Getting a variety of inputs is usually a good idea. You might be able to find a willing copyeditor in the WP:PRV general copyediting sublist. Finetooth (talk) 18:44, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Copyedit request
Sorry.. Can't help ya. I guess I need to add more banners at the top of my page. =) Good luck with the FA effort. Scartol  •  Tok  01:22, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Alas, it will likely be at least another week before I'm done with the first round of research and writing. If you still want my help on the article around October 10th, let me know.. Scartol  •  Tok  02:07, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Davenport CitiBus
When an article is deleted with no discussion, no tags and no reason given; that is vandalism. Now that I have time to look at this closer I realize that you are obviously a reputable editor with an interest in Davenport, Iowa. I am a little disappointed that you chose to delete, rather than expand, something that should be in the Category:Bus transportation in Iowa. I have no interest in this article except that, as an ousider, I tried to make it a little better. You probably know better! -Secondarywaltz (talk) 20:39, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
 * That is better information now - almost enough to create an article. Please note that a copy of the City of Davenport logo is now orphaned. -Secondarywaltz (talk) 13:22, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Matthew Mitcham
Hi there. I've reverted your edits, as Mitcham wasn't the only out gay male at Beijing. Not even the only out gay man in that event! Mathew Helm is out as well, as is stated further on in the article. --Ged UK (talk) 19:07, 7 October 2008 (UTC)


 * No problem. I'm not totally happy with the way it's worded at the moment, to be honest, it doesn't quite make it clear enough in my view. I'll try and tweak it at some point if no-one else does. --Ged UK (talk) 07:17, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Davenport review
You asked for a copyedit of Davenport, Iowa, but I ended up doing a review! Hope that helps. Carcharoth (talk) 02:39, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I've started with a basic copy edit, and I'll see what I can do. Jor  dan  <sup style="color:blue;">Contribs  20:07, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I updated the population to reflect the Census Bureau's 2007 estimate and cleaned up some sentence fragments. Nothing big, though. --Iowahwyman (talk) 03:13, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Lois Griffin
Can you tell me why browse that edition?. In that scene Thought was delated but even can be important. A Great Hello --Ravave (talk) 08:09, 11 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Ah! O.K. When is from a deleted scene is unnecesary? --Ravave (talk) 15:34, 11 October 2008 (UTC)


 * OK, Understand, Bye xD --Ravave (talk) 15:55, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Re: Playground (Lindsay Lohan song)
Yeah, you're right of course. I tried a redirect, was reverted, wanted to bring it to a discussion, noticed that it had already been discussed, and stupidly G4ed it instead, which I now undid again and redirected, with a proper edit summary and hidden comment, which is what I wanted to do in the first place. Thanks for your note. :) Cheers, Amalthea Talk 22:30, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

It's here
Templates_for_deletion/Log/2007_December_2

But you're right, I shouldn't be part of a discussion if I have nothing to say. TheBlazikenMaster (talk) 15:33, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
 * No, let's face it it wasn't even an opinion. About Dstebbins, has that person done more than edit warring the Peter Griffin page? I agree that it was right for this person to be blocked, but not because of vandalism but because of the WP:3RR. TheBlazikenMaster (talk) 16:27, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Road to Germany
CTJ- I ask that you direct your attention to the Road to Germany Talk Page, and present your input on the subject of the War in Iraq reference. I feel it is a legitimate issue. Neo16287 (talk) 18:52, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Removal of unsourced items
Yes, the inclusion is clearly not supported by our standard policies. In fact, yesterday I attempted to remove them, and then later attempted to move them to the talk page until sourcing was provided, I was threatened with being blocked for 3RR, called a wikinazi and and other name, so to comply with even the broadest interpretation of 3RR, I gave up trying to keep the unsourced out and have simply concentrated on flagging the unsourced material. But I certainly appreciate your attempts to keep the article clean.-- The Red Pen of Doom  02:45, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Just a heads up that WP:3RR still applies even if reverting unsourced cultural references.  Grsz  Review!  01:40, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Replied at my talk page.  Grsz  Review!  01:46, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Lightworker
Hi Ctjf83

Is it possible to review the deletion of page "Lightworker".

It is (was) a very good description of what many of us do. It is a valid term, it unites many modalities, we call ourselves lightworkers the way some people call themselves "accountants".

Thanks for your consideration LightWitch (talk) 06:48, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

LaVan Davis
Hi. Thank you. Please help me add references to LaVan Davis. I know everybody has heard that LaVan Davis and Cassi Davis are not married. Anyway thanks for your help. Also if you can expand LaVan Davis any way you can please do so. If you know anything or read anything please add it to his page. Thank you so much for your help. Please let me know what you found out. User talk:209.215.62.40

Again thank you Ctjf83.


 * No, I don't have another website, but I will keep looking. Once again thanks for your help Ctjf83. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.215.63.170 (talk) 00:27, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

SG
Thanks for the reminder, yup, I think I'm at my limit. Glad to know someone else is keeping an eye on it too. DP 76764 20:31, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Will do! Cheers!  DP 76764  20:43, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Re: Vandalism
Please take a closer look. It isn't vandalism. I&#39;mboredha (talk) 00:04, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
 * |(explanation -- WP:FICTION. ShadowMan is a relatively minor recurring character.) I&#39;mboredha (talk) 00:11, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Whatever. I&#39;mboredha (talk) 00:14, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

2008 Phillies season
Nice job with the poor jealous Mets fan. I'm glad I'm not the only one watching out for that article. KV5 •  Squawk box  •  Fight on!  00:08, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Full Protection of Candidate's Bios
Hi Ctjf83, Please express your opinion in the discussion at "Should the election bios stay fully protected through the election": [] Thanks, IP75 (talk) 09:23, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Stan Thompson
I think the Stan Thompson footnote you deleted here is worth keeping. Are you sure you want to delete that? / edg ☺ ☭ 23:09, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
 * After doing that, I added this one. If you like the first one better, you can readd that one.  C T J F 8 3 Talk 23:10, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I restored the footnote. I think this approach gives the correct weight to this thing that obsesses so many editors. / edg ☺ ☭ 23:25, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok, that works for me! Thanks for asking if I was sure on deleting it, instead of just reverting it! :)  C T J F 8 3 Talk 01:17, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

RE: Block
Hi. They have only been editing for 30 minutes and have only made 8 edits. Admittedly all of those edits are vandalism, but almost every vandal begins with a number of vandalism edits. In that case we would indef block all new vandals, and the only users who would get a shorter block would be good users who then started vandalising (who are very few and far between). I think that 24 hours should be OK for now. What do you think? Cheers TigerShark (talk) 08:01, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I understand but I believe that those blocks are not in line with policy. Either way, even an indef block is really only a 24 hour block, because the underlying autoblock will expire then, and the vandal can just come back under a different username. So the individual can still come back, and I think it is probably best not to be too heavy handed with them initially. We take Wikipedia seriously, but to somebody who has just discovered it, it just a website they can edit and play around with - so I think that an initial burst of vandalism doesn't mean they can't eventually become a constructive editor. Just my opinion. Cheers TigerShark (talk) 08:10, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Not really. I don't expect most of them to become constructive editors, but it is the fact that they can come back after 24 hours anyway. Because of that, what does an indef block achieve? Cheers TigerShark (talk) 08:15, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Bucktown, Davenport
Though not immediately relevant to the FAC on Davenport, since you're into the subject matter now, can you drop some references in this related unreferenced article? P.S. I also left a note about the FAC on the FAC discussion page. - Mgm|(talk) 13:41, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok, I'll see what I can do to clean up this poorly written page. Thanks for your FAC review!  C T J F 8 3 Talk 16:27, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Baby Not on Board
Extra eyes would be helpful.  Grsz  11   →Review!  02:58, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok, I'm gonna be away for 2 hours or so, I'm gonna go watch the four Fox episodes from tonight (including this one), but it is watch listed, and I will keep an eye on it.  C T J F 8 3 Talk 02:59, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Without ruining the episode for me...those CRs look like a crap list of random things, I'm thinking delete it all, your thoughts?  C T J F 8 3 Talk 03:02, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I just added them to throw them out there. Some are good: Home Alone is obvious, they actually sing almost all of The Rose. But other than that, no argument from me.  Grsz  11   →Review!  03:05, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Well give me two hours to watch those 4 shows, and I'll help you clean up the CR section...sound good? You going to be on for a while?  C T J F 8 3 Talk 03:05, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps you'll also share some thoughts here when you get back. Thanks,  Grsz  11   →Review!  04:52, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

I have a question for you. Why do you keep removing my edit for the final sentence of the references? I'm fine with paragraph form, but I would like the final sentence to say "The song that plays while Peter is defending his stupid actions at the airport to Lois is the instrumental version of "Power To Believe" by The Dream Academy from the movie Planes, Trains, and Automobiles. In that movie is a similar scene where John Candy makes nearly the exact same speech to Steve Martin." instead of what is there now. If you could make that edit and leave it, I would appreciate it. The way it is written now doesn't sound as good. Wildonrio (talk) 19:16, 3 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Why are the Cultural References sections of Family guy paragraph form? It makes so much more sense to do bullet point form. Many of the references take a couple sentences to explain, and if you mash all of those sentences in one paragraph, it's very unprofessional sounding as paragraphs need to flow with an opening sentence, a consistence topic, and a closing sentence. Could we propose changing this section to bullet point form for this and the other episodes too? Wildonrio (talk) 19:41, 3 November 2008 (UTC)


 * No, I thought the last change was removing my reference to the song from Planes, Trains, and Automobiles AGAIN. I didn't read it close enough before hitting Undo. I went back through and found the right one now, no worries.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wildonrio (talk • contribs) 01:10, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

OBAMA IS PRESIDENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm sorry, I couldn't contain my emotions! --Crackthewhip775 (talk) 04:19, 5 November 2008 (UTC)


 * A beautiful moment Martin Luther King, Jr. and others before him fought so hard for. Too bad his grandma didn't live long enough to see this. --Crackthewhip775 (talk) 04:51, 5 November 2008 (UTC)


 * WHOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! --Crackthewhip775 (talk) 05:52, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Davenport
Looks good, I've stricken my comments at the FAC. I'll take another look at the rest of the article if I find the time. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  01:32, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually, it looks sufficient as it is. If you wanted more info, the local NWS might be a good place to start, specifically this. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  01:35, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Sockpuppets
Dang, looks like I just touched the surface. Glad that problem is out of the way.  Grsz  11   →Review!  03:46, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank goodness!!! That @#$%&^* Slappywag42 was part of it, huh. So the only people opposing me here were all socks...nice! You should put that in that discussion, for archive purposes. How did Rlevse find out? Same IP?  C T J F 8 3 Talk 03:59, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, and I just thought that I was starting to make some headway with Cromulent K. But that was some sock farm! -- The Red Pen of Doom  18:17, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Dang, I missed all this excitement. No wonder arguing with "them" seemed so pointless. (and no wonder that article has quieted down) DP 76764  21:11, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

RE: POV
I've reworded my post. Hopefully that reads a little better. No intent to offend :)  Digital <sup style="color:#20038A;">Ninja  19:24, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Quick FAC note
Hi, I saw you mention that Davenport, Iowa was your first nomination for FAC and wanted to say Congratulations...that first step is often the scariest! I always like to see new nominators, and I hope that we see you at FAC a lot in the future. When I was a new nominator, it really helped me to watch a few other active FAC nominations to see which articles passed and what caused the others to be archived instead. It's a good learning process. If you have any questions, please ask me, any other FAC reviewer, or on Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. Karanacs (talk) 18:10, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Homer to the max
Congratulations on getting ol' Homer's episode to Good Article status! :) sinneed (talk) 15:44, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

RE: user:Mrmcuker
Thank you for the messages on my talk page. I would also like to apologize for not getting back to you sooner; I wanted to give it a little time to see if things changed before writing you a reply. In answer to your question, I cannot in good faith block for 3RR because it does not appear that he was ever warned about it (as required at WP:AN3RR). Likewise since the edit war on the California Proposition 8 (2008) article seams to have died down, and considering that the most recent half-dozen edits all improved the article, I have to agree with SoWhy that full-protection is not currently warranted. However given the recent history of IP edits to the article, I did go ahead and extend semi-protection until November 22nd.

That said, if Mrmcuker decides to ignore my 3RR warning, please let know so that I may take the necessary steps to protect the project. Additionally, while I would prefer to leave the Prop 8 article only semi-protected so that editors like yourself and Gambit2392 can continue to improve it, please do not hesitate to contact me if a protracted edit war breaks out.

POV-pushers can be extremely frustrating to deal with, especially those with a political agenda that includes denying others' equal rights. Thank you for taking the time and energy to help keep Wikipedia's neutrality in tact. Kudos to you, sir! Thanks, Kralizec! (talk) 16:06, 8 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Not all Republicans are bad. :-)  Some of us still remember when Republicans used to stand for smaller, less-intrusive government that did not try and regulate people's personal lives (and how much more intrusive can you get than laws that regulate who can and cannot marry?!?).  Unfortunately the base of my party has been taken over by the religious right ... and as the bumper sticker says, "the religious right is neither."  Ultimately I have absolutely no doubt that future generations will view our current anti-gay marriage laws as being as backward and discriminatory as modern generations view the old Jim Crow laws that made marriage between blacks and whites illegal.  --Kralizec! (talk) 20:40, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

small towns
Hello. Have you given some thought to taking pictures of small towns/done it yet? All best.Zigzig20s (talk) 04:54, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Asher196 (talk) Editor
I'm sick of her I want her out of here. She keeps on editing LaVan Davis and getting rid of the photo and good source information. I'm so angry I want her blocked from editing period.

Sorry for being upset but she is a sad person with no life. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.215.62.238 (talk) 23:43, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

2000 presidential election concession
Regarding your comment, while John Kerry may sometimes be in favor of something before being against it, I think someone else "invented" it. Andjam (talk) 12:17, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Fear of Flying
They really didn't mention anything else in the DVD commentary, and the merchandise section was originally part of the production section before Tj terrorible1 changed it. Besides, "My Sister, My Sitter" doesn't even have a production section. =P --<font color="#A04652">The <font color="#A00952" >Le <font color="#AD5160">ft <font color="#C15563">orium 19:20, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Heh. ;P By the way, look what Tj terrorible1 is doing to Brother from the Same Planet: --<font color="#A04652">The <font color="#A00952" >Le <font color="#AD5160">ft <font color="#C15563">orium  19:33, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

RE:2012 election
You're right, we're early; however, it is quite large for an event so far away, and is well sourced/notable. As an article I think it should remain. Why do you think it should be deleted? Master of Puppets <sub style="color:#7d7d7d">Call me MoP! :)  09:10, 11 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, do we have to know that information? Is it reasonable to say that we need that information to have an article? Basically, all we know right now is when it will be and the potential candidates, same as we do it every year. All confirmed by sources, backed up by policy. Master of Puppets  <sub style="color:#7d7d7d">Call me MoP! :)  18:48, 11 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, there's nothing stopping you; you could always contact the article creators and have a deeper discussion with them, as I don't know that much about this. Master of Puppets  <sub style="color:#7d7d7d">Call me MoP! :)  18:54, 11 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Yep; here. Master of Puppets  <sub style="color:#7d7d7d">Call me MoP! :)  19:00, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Davenport
Sure, no problem. I hope they can help (though if there are questions they can't answer, I won't hold it against you). -- Biruitorul Talk 16:22, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I looked at the FAC today and saw that you mentioned you had left comments on my talk page. I honestly did not see them - it looks like after you posted every time someone else put a new comment at the bottom and I assumed the yellow bar was for the other person's comment. Sorry!!! To answer your question, as much of the article as possible should be sourced to secondary sources.  You need to find magazine or newspaper articles (or books) that discuss some of these sections of the article, and pick out what the magazines think is important.  All claims of importance/notability need to be sourced to a secondary source (for example, "American Nurses Credentialing Center, the nation’s leading credentialing organization" should NOT be sourced to the ANCC itself).  The article shoud not source an entire section (such as festivals) to a series of primary sources - that is potential OR because then you are choosing which festivals are important, rather than letting secondary sources determine which ones should be mentioned.  In general, the sourcing needs a complete overhaul. Karanacs (talk) 15:41, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Template:Same-sex unions
Hey, if the State Supreme Court does not rule on Prop H8 Wednesday (the earliest they would rule on it), should we put that the legality of the ban is questionable within the template? Also do you know anyone with SVG image editing abilities that can modify Image:Samesex marriage in USA.svg to indicate the legality of prop 8 is in question? Thegreyanomaly (talk) 08:28, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Reply
Yup, paying special care to avoid that and ready to report a 3RR on the dissenter (who has technically already violated it). Thanks for watchin my back! =) DP 76764  19:50, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Meg Griffin
Are you the person whose been deleting my Meg Griffin edit? --6afraidof7 (talk) 19:51, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't understand where your going with this, who are you and what do you want? I think you may have the wrong talk page. --6afraidof7 (talk) 20:00, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Why are you being facetious? In fact, why do you seemingly regard me as an enemy in this situation? All I wanted was a reason why my edit was being deleted, if you'd done that in the first place we wouldn't be having this conversation now. --6afraidof7 (talk) 20:06, 20 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm contacting you here because I find it very difficult to conduct two conversations on the same talk page, mainly because of edit conflicts. In response to your message, I don't know very much about edit summaries, I've just been stumbling around in the dark for quite some time on this website. If somebody delete's one of my edits, I simply wait for a message explaining why on my talk page, if nobody does leave a message, then I simply revert the deletion. --6afraidof7 (talk) 20:17, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Reply: Dangerous Curves (The Simpsons)
Review. Well, I sort of feel it is more of a recap by someone then an an actual review - my only problem is that it isn't clear if the reviewer in question is a professional reviewer or someone entirely random (like the notable tv.com reviewers). But then again, it is from TV Guide, so its got me beat. I will restore the source if you wish, plus add another reviewer in the process. -- <font face="Trebuchet MS" >A talk / contribs 22:12, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

And Maggie Makes Three
I'm nominating "And Maggie Makes Three" soon. Can you look it over when you have time? :) Cheers, <font color="#A04652">The <font color="#A00952" >Le <font color="#AD5160">ft <font color="#C15563">orium 23:35, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Yay, thanks! :D <font color="#A04652">The <font color="#A00952" >Le <font color="#AD5160">ft <font color="#C15563">orium 09:53, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Image:Samesex marriage in USA.svg
Sorry for the delayed reply. Is the non striped map still needed or has it been sorted? /Lokal_Profil 14:31, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Re: Barnstar!
W00t, thanks a lot for the barnstar Ctjf83! =D <font color="#A04652">The <font color="#A00952" >Le <font color="#AD5160">ft <font color="#C15563">orium 14:45, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Baby Not On Board
WTF happened to this article? The cultural references are now far less and they are in bullet form, which you worked so hardly to stop. Can we revert back to an edit we had a few days after it aired? It was perfect back then, now it is seriously lacking. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wildonrio (talk • contribs) 19:45, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Image:Samesex marriage in USA.svg—stripes
I have noticed that: I should remind you that:
 * 1) You have replaced this map with a PNG map without stripes on pages that it appears on.
 * 2) You have claimed consensus on two past discussions to keep it when I point you to a recent discussion in favor of removing it.
 * 1) If by past two discussions you mean this and this, I would argue that there was not a consensus, and there were pro-stripe arguments that you did not address, and even if you did have a consensus...
 * 2) Consensus Can Change, Past decisions are open to challenge and are not binding, and changes are sometimes reasonable. So discuss the stripes on its merits. Like You Never Did See (talk) 17:21, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok, the consensus I pointed to are less than 2 months old first of all. Your consensus is of an IP and one new user. How is that a good consensus?! If you want to start a new discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject LGBT studies go ahead. But until you get a thorough consensus, leave it the png map, or fix the svg map to remove the stripes.  C T J F 8 3 Talk
 * I did not say that there was a consensus for the stripes based on the new discussion, but that there was a consensus on the stripes all along and that removing the stripes was something new, and there was no consensus on removing them, else I could point the confused users to the consensus. Like You Never Did See (talk) 17:47, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I see no need for the yellow stripes. It makes the map more confusing and harder to read with more color clusters. By default every state would be yellow, until something changes the colors.  C T J F 8 3 Talk 17:54, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
 * That's not true; not all states would be yellow, because not all states that don't allow for same-sex marriage have statutes that ban same-sex marriage. The states that don't can and have been brought to court to argue that their marriage statute allows for same-sex marriage, and more easily recognize out-of-state same-sex marriages. Like You Never Did See (talk) 18:06, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Any references for any of that?  C T J F 8 3 Talk 18:09, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
 * A reference for the fact that some states do not have statutes banning same-sex marriage? I can't give you that, but I can give you the poignant example of New York, where a court found that statuary law did not grant them the right to same-sex marriage, but for the lack of something like Proposition 22 allowed the Governor to issue an order to state agencies to recognize out-of-state same-sex marriages. Like You Never Did See (talk) 18:15, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Hillary
Sorry - I was kidding with that "wishful thinking" comment but forgot to add the smile! Tvoz / talk 21:58, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

December 2008
Why don't you stop the "disruptive editing" and quit trying to accuse others of it, because the numbers for the election are final, and you're not going to change them anymore than anyone else. Never in recent memory have the electors ever went against the election results, and with no precedent to back your position up, it is you that is guilty of "disruptive editing." Look at any other site, including Yahoo's dashboard, and those are the numbers reported. They wouldn't even bother calling the election for the candidates if the electors weren't going to abide by the election results. 131.230.191.7 (talk) 21:38, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Umm, it hasn't changed the result of the election either now has it? One would think you were secretly a McCain supporter that's just hoping enough of them change votes for him to oust Obama. And by what numbers, 1? 2? It's laughable. Not only that, but they didn't change parties or give the other side their votes either if you cared to look at your own information. 131.230.191.7 (talk) 21:53, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Oh well, the numbers aren't going to change that much, if at all! When every major broadcast company is reporting certain numbers as final, so should the biggest online encyclopedia. If they change, then we can change the numbers. But your argument is laughable. 131.230.191.7 (talk) 21:55, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Help on production section for Simpsons season 10 episode "Bart the Mother"
If you've got time, could you help me beef up the Production section for "Bart the Mother", a season 10 episode of The Simpsons? I don't have access to the DVD unfortunately. Thanks in advance! Gary King ( talk ) 20:19, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Sure! I can get it within a few days, if not tonight!  C T J F 8 3 Talk 20:23, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Alright thanks Gary King  ( talk ) 20:26, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay no problemo; as you can see I'm currently working on The Day the Violence Died and should be done today or tomorrow. It's going along very nicely! Gary King  ( talk ) 20:41, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Alright no problem; thanks! Gary King  ( talk ) 15:43, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Hm, is that everything that there is available for Production? The Day the Violence Died has a surprising amount from the DVD. Do you have access to books that could be useful? I'll fish around for some more stuff to add. Gary King  ( talk ) 15:48, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm hoping to get at least 10 kb in prose for the article. It's currently at 4 kb in prose. Gary King  ( talk ) 19:45, 3 December 2008 (UTC)