User talk:CTF83!/Archive 5

"Consensus"
I heartily suggest you review WP:DRNC. Your repeated reversions based on no stated logic but demanding consensus simply don't work logically (for example, you have no consensus for your revert edits.) - Nat Gertler (talk) 08:21, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
 * that is an essay not policy unlike Consensus C T J F 8 3  chat 05:32, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Did u look over the last consensus? C T J F 8 3  chat 10:05, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
 * In that supposed last consensus, more editors were for incusion (banjeboi, 75.187.39.176, .Ronnotronald, Ronline) than against it (you, SatyrTN), with one more riding the middle (Rrius). Not that that matters for the new consensus (consensus changes), nor did it matter for the page where you first invoked it for me, as that was a separate page. - Nat Gertler (talk) 20:07, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
 * separate page? I'm not gonna bother with it again and will wait for a consensus either way C T J F 8 3  chat 20:10, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, separate page. Your edit justification on Same-sex marriage in the United States linked to a supposed previous consensus... which was a discussion for Template:Same-sex unions, rather than for that page. - Nat Gertler (talk) 22:57, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
 * It's still about adding the tribe though. C T J F 8 3  chat 03:12, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
 * A consensus on inclusion only applies to the page that it's made for. An agreement that there shouldn't be information on same-sex marriage in California on the page about the Cathy comic strip or the page about cosines would in no way mean that it wouldn't be appropriate for the SSM in USA page. And in this case, the specific claim was that putting the Coquille on a template about SSM in the whole world would be undue weight; even if that had been agreed to, it would be a very different question of whether it'd be due weight on an article about a single country. - Nat Gertler (talk) 04:39, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
 * The pages are very closely related, unlike CA SSM and Cathy comics C T J F 8 3  chat 04:42, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Keokuk
Hi CT- Happy New Year! Sorry about your hand; sound like a classic bar fight injury. Knowing nothing about Keokuk, Iowa's history, do you think user:Tropicalmatt's contributions should be rollbacked? If so, go ahead. Bill Whittaker 19:59, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
 * LOL, I'm not much of a fighter...I dropped A drinking glass at work and it sliced it deep. I reverted some is possible vandalism and the rest is unsourced C T J F 8 3  chat 20:07, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Hand injury, eh?
I hope you get better soon! ;)  The left orium  11:12, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks Left, I dropped a drinking glass at work and it sliced my left hand open, deep, 9 stitches. Luckly i'm right handed. :) C T J F 8 3  chat
 * Ouch, hope you get better.-- Saint Pedrolas J. Hohohohohoh merry christmas 17:06, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks Pedro, when I do, we are gonna work on another FG GA! :) C T J F 8 3  chat 04:31, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Sure anytime-- Saint Pedrolas J. Hohohohohoh merry christmas 04:48, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Zac Moncrief
Hi there. First off, I'm very sorry about your hand, and I hope it heals soon. Second off, I'm working on that article, and I was wondering if you can recall any information about him in any of the FG DVD commentaries he's apart of? Thanks,  The Flash  {talk} 22:34, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I've only watched commentaries for episodes I've gotten GAs on. I can watch the ones with him if you want. C T J F 8 3  chat 04:58, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Nah, it's fine—I've taken a break from it work on other necessary things anyways :)  The Flash  {talk} 05:34, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

American comedy television series
I have asked twice now why you keep removing these categories, and to please explain why this American comedy television series doesn't belong in the American comedy television series groups, but you won't explain why and you just keep reverting... Please, explain the reverts.. Ejfetters (talk) 21:11, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I thought it was in my edit summary. It is category cruft, it just clogs up the space. It is also explained here by another user. Please discuss further at WT:Doh, thank you, C T J F 8 3  chat 21:16, 14 January 2010 (UTC)


 * I researched it with that user, and we discovered the debate was just for the originating country not the decade.. I understand some articles have a lot of categories, but if the category is legit and the article belongs in the category, why omit it? If you are debating that the category should be deleted, then I don't argue against it, I didn't create the category.. But I don't see how if an article fits into several categories why it should be omitted from those categories.  It fits those categories. Ejfetters (talk) 21:21, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Because at a certain point when there are 50 categories for a page, it is out of control and ridiculous. What user did you discuss it with? C T J F 8 3  chat 21:23, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Read the discussion Categories_for_discussion/Log/2006_December_19. The discussion at hand was for originating country, not originating decade.  Saying Saturday Night Live is only a 1970s show makes no sense... Saying a show like The Simpsons is only a 1980s show doesn't make much sense either.  The benefit from the category listing isn't to the article, but to the category, when one looks at the category listing they will see all the articles under that subject.  I've seen good articles with far more categories than this one, and I don't think it in no way, shape, or form depreciate the article.  If it fits in the category, then it should be in the category, regardless of how many categories are listed.  And there aren't that many categories listed here anyways... Ejfetters (talk) 21:34, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * 17 categories right now, adding the others puts it at 21 categories, not 50. Ejfetters (talk) 21:38, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * 50 was just an overexerted example, perhaps Overcategorization will be of interest for you to read. C T J F 8 3  chat 21:43, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Eh i dont really care, get tired of Wikipedia real fast anyways cuz people just like to own the articles, I'll leave it alone, not worth the hassle. Ejfetters (talk) 21:45, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry you feel that way, my intention is not to be a pain, or to drive users away from editing. C T J F 8 3  chat 21:51, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thanks for the autograph! :) —  Hun ter   Ka  hn  06:15, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Not a problem! I'm gonna watch The F Word and then review it tonight or tomorrow. C T J F 8 3  chat 06:16, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the review. I've responded to your comments, as well as those made by the other guy. —  Hun ter   Ka  hn  01:23, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

FG4: We keep this up its going fg55 :)
Sure any time(exectp in my homework or school or video gameing) i want to make the proyect bigger as i stated in the proyuect talk, maybe we can work on it. hows your hand -- Saint Pedrolas J. Hohohohohoh merry christmas 22:22, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Sure. -- Saint Pedrolas J. Hohohohohoh merry christmas 20:02, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

3RR
Whoops, you misinterpret. Not your fault though, I didn't make a new header. That IP sent me a message about how I violated some minor policy somewhere here, but when I replied I didn't make a new header. I am not that IP, and am well aware of the 3RR. Thanks, Ajraddatz (Talk - Contributions) 20:07, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
 * LOL, ok, sorry :) C T J F 8 3  chat 20:09, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Heh, don't be. Not your fault that I am still getting used to Wikipedia :) Ajraddatz (Talk - Contributions) 20:11, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Ahh, you are quite new. If you need help with anything, or have any questions, feel free to ask me. I enjoy helping new users. C T J F 8 3  chat 20:12, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
 * It is mainly the policies that I am unfamiliar with. I have considerable experience on Wikia, but they don't have all of the policies and other "stuff" that Wikipedia has. Thanks again, Ajraddatz (Talk - Contributions) 20:17, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thanks for the barnstar! That was unexpected and certainly not necessary, but very much appreciated! Yeah, I guess the Wikicup has got my GA and DYK juices really flowing this month, lol, I appreciate your reviews, your support and your kind words! —  Hun ter   Ka  hn  19:44, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Not a problem! It's always nice to get recognized by other users. I look forward to working with you in the future. C T J F 8 3  chat 19:47, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

ANI Notice
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is User:PeshawarPat. Thank you. ɠǀɳ̩ςεΝɡ bomb  06:23, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
 * thank you for informing me. C T J F 8 3  chat 07:05, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
 * By the way, of course it is all my fault for the rainbow signature, not your pink signature ;) C T J F 8 3  chat 07:54, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
 * De nada. Was the least I could do after semi-inadvertently insinuating myself into this mess by swooping in out of nowhere and 3RR reporting Pesh the other night when you apparently had a similar report going at the same time. And yes, it is totally your sig, hahaha! ɠǀɳ̩ςεΝɡ  bomb  08:01, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
 * LMFAO! C T J F 8 3  chat 18:12, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Barnstar for you!

 * So when will you submit to being a sysop? Bearian (talk) 04:47, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh well, maybe later. Bearian (talk) 06:00, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Hey
Sorry about the delay. Check this out: Talk:Homosexuality  Phoenix of9  21:23, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Drown (disambiguation)
I don't think Non-admin closure directly addresses the situation of Articles for deletion/Drown (disambiguation), but you'd be wise to avoid doing merges, following AfD and in general, until you have a good grasp of wp:merge (including wp:cut and paste, since underlying issues apply to both renames and merges). Also, i was astonished that you seemed to think it was appropriate to execute a merge (let alone in that direction, since using a noun rather than a verb is so strongly established a guideline). I'm going analyze this aspect on the tk page of the AfD'd article (whereby i'll become sure whether my astonishment was called for or not; i've been wrong before and it could happen a second time [wink]). Either this or the C&P nature of merge would alone have necessitated the intervention that JHunterJ provided. That will probably clarify for you why deletion was inappropriate, even w/o the fact that "a typo or misnomer which is implausible and not common", as db-r3 asserts, is not even a remotely defensible description of the merge situation you were asserting. Finally, we've for some time made a general practice (at least) of placing a lk to the AfD on the tk page of an AfD'd article (deleted or not), upon closing, IRCC using a std template. It would be good on your part to learn how to do that for future AfD closes; follow the tk page in question for a while, & ere long i'll have learned the proper format myself, and serve as an example for you. Thanks. --Jerzy•t 07:14, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
 * ummm, I'm slightly confused.... C T J F 8 3  chat 19:03, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Pete Williams (journalist)
I'd like to get your opinion on this one. Bearian (talk) 15:05, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Favor
Another administrator deleted my userpage. They gave a good reason as to why, but I asked if they could restore it for a day or so, so I could copy the information to another wiki host. They agreed on that, but they never did it. So I was wondering if you could go through this accounts records, and restore the information just temporarily? Phrasia (talk) 05:38, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I'm not an admin, otherwise I'd help you. C T J F 8 3  chat 05:48, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I posted on the original admin's page, but I'm afraid that's all I can do. C T J F 8 3  chat 05:55, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Oh, sorry I thought you were. I would totally nominate you. Thanks again. :) Phrasia (talk) 05:57, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Any time! C T J F 8 3  chat 05:58, 3 February 2010 (UTC)


 * ✅ I'm not sure what the problem was the first time, but I've restored the page for a second time as per Phrasia's request above. Phrasia, please let me know when you've made a copy. -- see User:Phrasia. -- The Anome (talk) 12:45, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Edit-warring
Don't believe everything you hear on IRC. This is part, as both Doncram and Orlady will acknowledge, of a painfully tedious argument between a whole raft of editors over merges and splits between localities and historic districts that has rendered the NRHP project toxic. I'm surprised that Orlady got herself drawn into this. However, cries of admin abuse don't help, and this is a garden variety case of two editors being peeved at each other. See Doncram vs. Polaron. The terminology that Doncram favors makes me break out in hives, but I'd prefer to let it stand in favor of the greater good.  Acroterion  (talk)  00:39, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, she did break 3RR, and thus should be blocked like any other user who breaks it. Off topic, how do I site when an author has 2 books I'm using. ie, I can't just put their last name and page number like I did with one book Davenport,_Iowa. C T J F 8 3  chat 00:42, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm aware of the 3RR issue, but would rather it be reviewed by others. I'm too involved in the main dispute to render judgment, and frankly too irritated at all parties.
 * For citing, do you have refTools enabled in your Preferences/Gadgets tab? It gives a "cite" at the end of the editing tools bar above the edit window that opens a menu of options for filling out references.  Acroterion  (talk)  00:48, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Elaborating on refs, you'd do two full cites, then for further cites you'd just do something like "Smith, "The Color Blue", p. 40" and "Smith, "Skies and their Hues", p.441."  Acroterion  (talk)  00:52, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
 * (ec) I understand how to cite and such, but for example ref 3 at Davenport,_Iowa says "Svendsen, p. 19". I'm adding a second book by her, how do I clarify in the cite which of the 2 books I'm using? Would it be something like "Svendsen,Davenport A Pictorial History p. 19"?.....Ok, you answered it when I got the ec, thanks. C T J F 8 3  chat 00:53, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Thank you
Hi there,

I appreciate your help with the 3rr thing. I'm not a fan of noticeboards so I'm not skilled at posting and the template seems hoary to me. That was very nice of you to put it in your sandbox. If I can ever return the favor, although nothing tech related, I'd be happy to help. These are for you: Malke  2010  06:27, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you! In case you didn't know, we have WP:Barnstars you can use to show appreciation for any user you feel deserves it. :) C T J F 8 3  chat 17:17, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I 2nd the thank you. Even though I love The Drama, it's not so much fun being a part of it. I'd use a barnstar, but I'm equally wiki-inept. :) Quietmarc (talk) 20:11, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you both! If either of you need assistance, just ask, and I'll provide if I can. C T J F 8 3  chat 20:40, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Request for comment
I have opened a request for comment at Requests for comment/Doncram. While the RFC is named for him alone, the behavior of Polaron and Orlady should also be considered as well. I would encourage you to participate in a civil manner in this discussion, in hopes of finding a reasonable resolution. --Elkman (Elkspeak) 23:06, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm not exactly sure what is going on. What exactly do I do at the RfC? Propose restrictions or something of the sort? C T J F 8 3  chat 08:08, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I think at this point, you can either certify the basis of this dispute, or add an outside view. If you have an outside view on the conflict between Doncram and Orlady, your opinion would be useful at this point.  I'm not sure it would be useful yet to propose editing restrictions, since there isn't much discussion yet (and since Doncram hasn't responded).  I'm not 100% familiar with the RfC process, either, and I'd rather not be familiar with it at all.  I'd rather be figuring out the difference between Italianate architecture and Second Empire architecture as it applies to any individual building, but since the edit wars keep spreading, I unfortunately have to get involved in user conduct.  --Elkman (Elkspeak) 22:50, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks, I'll comment after work. C T J F 8 3  chat 23:01, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I've begun to put together an outline for an RfC on the NRHP content disputes at User:Acroterion/RfC NRHP, to be moved to some more appropriate place once it's developed. I'll be working on it in between bouts of snow shoveling, and you're encouraged to contribute as you desire.   Acroterion  (talk)  17:07, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Peter Griffin
Hey Ctjf83, it's Hunter Kahn. I'm conducting the GAN review for Peter Griffin, and the nominator told me that you had conducted a previous GAN review for it. I believe he indicated it was quick-failed, but I couldn't find a prior GAN review page for it. Can you tell me if one was conducted, because if so, I want to make sure any concerned raised back then were addressed. Thanks! —  Hun ter   Ka  hn  03:13, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I didn't make a GA page (probably should've) but it was still tagged at the top and a lot of tags, so I didn't bother with a GA page.  C T J F 8 3  chat 05:25, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks Ctj, -- Saint Pedrolas J. Hohohohohoh merry christmas 11:53, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
 * LOL, a little past christmas! C T J F 8 3  chat 19:05, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Linda Harasim
The result is fine - the consensus is to keep. However, your rationale "Keep Passes WP:Prof (WP:NACD)" is flawed. Notability guidelines are only guidelines, they describe "what usualy happens on afd" they do not proscribe what must happen. Providing no policy overrides other considerations, an article is kept or deleted on the basis of whether there is a consensus to delete or not. In this case, there was no consensus to delete (indeed possibly a consensus to keep) so the article is kept. However, even if the article does pass some guideline, that's would not override consensus.--Scott Mac (Doc) 20:06, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
 * So Just a Keep is sufficient on all AfDs? No reasoning is required? C T J F 8 3  chat 20:10, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
 * No reasoning is good. But the reason isn't that it passes a guideline, the reason is that most people want to keep it and have offered perfectly valid reasons to do so. Most people think it is notable.--Scott Mac (Doc) 20:14, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, if you have a few minutes, care to look over my other closes? C T J F 8 3  chat 20:16, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Neena Cortex
I've taken the liberty of changing your db-bio to a PROD - as she is a fictional cyborg, not a 'real person'. Peridon (talk) 20:56, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you, C T J F 8 3  chat 20:58, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
 * You're welcome - I get that way sometimes... Peridon (talk) 21:00, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

This
This, might seem to be canvassing. I would tend to avoid such things. If you want to try to get one or two mentors and/or nominators, that is fine. Cirt (talk) 14:34, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok. C T J F 8 3  chat 18:38, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Davenport, Iowa
That content has been removed because the person had their biographical article deleted. Check the red links. thanks. JBsupreme ( talk ) 23:58, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
 * An edit summary of that would be helpful. C T J F 8 3  chat 00:00, 10 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Checking your edits before marking them as vandalism would also be helpful. Eh?   JBsupreme  ( talk ) 00:01, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
 * All I see is removal of sourced info, with no edit summary, what should I think? C T J F 8 3  chat 19:03, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Isabel Bloom
FYI: It's back up for deletion. The article is admittedly thin. In my opinion, should be stubbed, not deleted. First time I've been involved in one of these discussions, so not sure how to best stop deletion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Powerten (talk • contribs) 18:05, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
 * You did a good job. Just make sure you only have one section of keep or delete :)  C T J F 8 3  chat 19:08, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Same Sex Marriage
Hi, thanks for deciding to contribute to this article! There is currently consensus on the talk page. I see you editted the article without discussing on the talk page. If you feel there is something that does not belong please come on in and explain what's wrong. Until then though I'm going to put the article back the way it was with the cited material there.Jstanierm (talk) 18:22, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Feel free to do so, but you will be reported for 3RR. C T J F 8 3  chat 18:24, 4 February 2010 (UTC)


 * What's the latest on the the 'slippery slope' argument being included in the lead. I am against that. Malke  2010  04:05, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually, I haven't looked lately. I won't let it be allowed, it's just anti-gay made up thinking. C T J F 8 3  chat 08:57, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Indent fix
Hey, I checked my watched pages list and it appears you have performed an "indent fix" on my talk page. I'm just wondering what an indent fix means whether its vandalism, glitches etc.

Many thanks :) RoboHomo (talk) 16:39, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Vandalism?! See how it was before the fix? When ever you start a new post, you indent it with a colon : or 2 for subsequent :: then 3 :::: etc C T J F 8 3  chat 18:50, 11 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Ah ok then, I was just wondering what it was. Thanks for your help :D RoboHomo (talk) 21:27, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
 * No problem, feel free to come to me with any questions you have. C T J F 8 3  chat 21:40, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Help w/ U.S. marijuana maps
Hi there! I notice you contribute to and discuss the same-sex marriage map of the United States, and also have an interest in politics. I am continually impressed with how up-to-date that map remains, and how much activity the talk page receives. I am finding it difficult to keep the three U.S. maps relating to marijuana found here up to date, so I was wondering if you might take a look and perhaps even add the images to your watchlist. I tried updating this one over at Commons, but the image has not updated yet (see NJ here). I am not sure if you have an interest in the legal status of cannabis or not, but I could sure use some help with keep the maps current. If interested, take a look! Thanks! -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:10, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I can keep an eye on the maps, and if I see news updates, I can help update them. How often does marijuana laws change? C T J F 8 3  chat 21:16, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Barry John Walsh
Since the nomination, an editor has done significant work on the article, adding numerous references, would you agree to close this nomination? I can close it right now if you agree. thanks for your time and good work. Okip (formerly Ikip) 22:04, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
 * That's fine, I withdraw my nomination. C T J F 8 3  chat 04:45, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Thank You
I used your userpage to generate my own, as I am new to Wikipedia. Just wanted to say thanks, even thought you want to delete my article! haha Volbeatfan (talk) 21:38, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
 * LOL, you're welcome. You can also put if you want the table to show up too. :)  C T J F 8 3  GoUSA 21:40, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I am doing my best to add to that page though so it can remain here on Wikipedia LOL Volbeatfan (talk) 21:43, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
 * It will probably be more notable once the album is released and it is talked about in the media. C T J F 8 3  GoUSA 21:45, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Also, if you have any questions or need help, feel free to ask me. :) C T J F 8 3  GoUSA 21:51, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
 * How do I become able to edit pages that are semi-protected such as Metallica? I am very knowledgeable about their band history and would be able to contribute. Volbeatfan (talk) 17:05, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
 * You will be able to have your account is 4 days old. See WP:AUTOCONFIRM. So Wednesday it looks like. C T J F 8 3  GoUSA 21:29, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you once again. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Volbeatfan (talk • contribs) 22:18, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Sure thing. C T J F 8 3  GoUSA 02:33, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Death (South Park)
Hey Ctjf! Since you've expressed an interest in the past in reviewing more South Park-related articles, perhaps you'd like to take a crack at Death (South Park)? I'm hoping to get it reviewed before the first round of the Wikicup ends on February 26. But, more importantly, once that one is reviewed, the WikiProject South Park will be free to seek a featured topic for the first season, which is something we've been working on for a long time. Very exciting stuff! :D Let me know if you're willing to review... —  Hun ter   Ka  hn  22:44, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Sure, I'll get to it on Sunday :) C T J F 8 3  GoUSA 05:42, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks, very much appreciated as always! If you're interested, next week I'll be looking for some more South Park reviews because the 13th season is almost ready for good topic. But that'll be a matter for the second round. :D —  Hun ter   Ka  hn  13:46, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks man, much appreciated. I'll probably tap you for some more SP reviews next week, if you're game. (If I'm ever a bother, please don't hesitate to say you'd rather not do it!) Thanks again! —  Hun ter   Ka  hn  22:12, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
 * You'll never be a bother, I enjoy working with you! C T J F 8 3  GoUSA 02:38, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Homophobia
You don't have the authority to change the rules just for this particular case. I'm only bound to the rules and you have no authority over me. It is a baseless threat and the punishment isn't in accordance to my actions anyway. Please be objective and consider the rule that way.

Cheers --Garrythefish (talk) 02:46, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
 * You need a consensus to change the page name of a page like that. C T J F 8 3  GoUSA 02:48, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Speedy delete tags
No-context is good for Hundred Years. The other one could be vandalism, or a blatant hoax (that's how I tagged it). - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 00:28, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion contested: International Federation of Little Brothers of the Poor
Hello Ctjf83, and thanks for patrolling new pages! I am just letting you know that I contested the speedy deletion of International Federation of Little Brothers of the Poor, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: The article makes a credible assertion of importance or significance, sufficient to pass A7. You may wish to review the Criteria for Speedy Deletion before tagging further pages. Thank you. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 02:50, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Re: Butters' Bottom Bitch
It is a good one. Anything revolving around Butters is golden to me. :D —  Hun ter   Ka  hn  02:51, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh geez, I completely missed that you finished the review on Butters' Bottom Bitch until after I got your most recent message. You're 100% right, I didn't see the message because it wasn't at the bottom of my queue, and I thought the new message notification was for a different message. Sorry about that! But anyway, enough of my excuses. I've made the necessary fixed! lol :D —  Hun ter   Ka  hn  04:32, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I had it open in a separate window and thought I saved it, but I didn't. The alt text should now added. —  Hun ter   Ka  hn  04:39, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
 * lol You're the man! All these SP reviews are highly appreciated. It's a really exciting time for the WikiProject South Park! Not only is season one now nominated for featured topic, but now all the season 13 articles are nominated and almost ready for good topic! Very cool stuff! —  Hun ter   Ka  hn  04:44, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

The last shot (2010 film)
There's nothing in this article that is clearly impossible. In other words, it's not a blatant hoax: blatant hoaxes are those that can be seen as false by anyone. I don't have any reason to say that this one is definitely false, but the lack of sources that you indicated is enough to say that it fails WP:GNG. Nyttend (talk) 03:06, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Davenport box
Looks great! But you seem to have left out African Americans in Davenport, Iowa. An oversight, I'm sure :) Bill Whittaker (talk) 13:58, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Re: GAC 2
I discussed the FLC versus GAN thing with Nergaal, the user that worked with me on the season 13 article. We both decided that South Park (season 13) is more likely on its way to FA than FL down the road, so we jointly decided to nominate it for GA first, with the hope of getting it up to FA shape shortly down the road. —  Hun ter   Ka  hn  04:47, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks man! All your review efforts are much appreciated! —  Hun ter   Ka  hn  05:24, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I added the alt text. One day I'll remember that on my own. lol —  Hun ter   Ka  hn  13:26, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Talk:It's About Time! (Phineas and Ferb)/GA1
Alright, done with all your concerns. My apologies to how long it took to respond to them.  The Flash  I am Jack's   complete   lack of surprise 02:12, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Tagging of Superstroke
You tagged Superstroke for speedy deletion as a copyvio. Unless I am mistaken, when you tagged it, a significant quantity of text was indeed copied from an outside web site, but the first paragraph, and the two final sections were not copied or closely paraphrased. Note that db-copyvio says "This criterion applies only in unequivocal cases, where there is no free-content material on the page worth saving and no later edits requiring attribution..." and WP:CSD says "...where there is no non-infringing content on the page worth saving." In a case like this I think it might have been better to remove the infringing content and warn the editor who posted it, rather than tag for speedy deletion.

I have declined the speedy deletion request, because after your tag was placed the article was edited to remove the infringing content. DES (talk) 03:10, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you for bringing that to my attention. I will be more careful in my future Copyvio tagging.  C T J F 8 3  chat 04:21, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Rhode Island
Many of those sources don't seem to say authoritatively that the state recognizes foreign marriages. The issue is still kind of fuzzy, so I think we should wait. (Also, I am on a library computer right now, so I can't edit the XML at the moment)

The country glitch in my sidebar is probably due to the template I am using. It used to look normal a long time ago, and then one day it just changed to what it was. Thegreyanomaly (talk) 19:28, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Food Wars
How r u supposed to insert the reference thing on Food Wars because it keeps saying: Cite error, even though i put in a reference--A-spices (talk) 22:16, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
 * First please make sure you post comments on user's main talk pages, not archives so they see it. I fixed the reference, if you need more help you can ask me or I have a reference formatting help page at User:Ctjf83/Ref.  C T J F 8 3  chat 01:56, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

WP:RfA
I'm in the middle of midterms. If you have one drafted, I'll second the motion. Otherwise, with all the drama over BLPs, you may want to wait another month. Bearian (talk) 06:08, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Pepper v Hart
No, it's a test page. Moved to Talk:Pepper v Hart/test. Ironholds (talk) 22:32, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
 * It is a sandbox page, but one which requires multi-user collaboration. That's why I've moved it. Ironholds (talk) 22:37, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Re: Whale Whores
I responded. Thanks! —  Hun ter   Ka  hn  05:00, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

SP Barnstar

 * Thanks, although I think it may be a little while before another South Park nom comes along. Soon we'll start the season 2 part of the featured topic drive, but I think for a while, I'll be focusing my efforts on The Office, Parks and Recreation, and a few of the other shows I've been fiddling with. If another SP comes along though, I'll be sure to let you know! —  Hun ter   Ka  hn  05:53, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Et tu, Ctjf83?
Hey Ctjf83,

I see you've made it to the noticeboards too. Luck to you there, my friend. Malke 2010  05:56, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Yep, lol, my reporter is a probable WP:SOCK of a blocked user...we'll see what happens :)  C T J F 8 3  chat 05:57, 4 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Here's me . Malke  2010  06:00, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Damn! That's really long!  C T J F 8 3  chat 06:02, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, long. And winded.  He's a new user, or so he says.  His characterizations of my edits are not accurate.  I think he's bummed his first big edit to Wikipedia, as he calls it, got shredded in like 20 minutes.  I have a new article I've been wanting to post, but I know that when I do it won't be recognizable in about an hour.  But, hey, it's open editing.  :)   Malke  2010  06:22, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Well good luck on WP:AN3 :)  C T J F 8 3  chat 06:39, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Saw you were found innocent. Me too. .  Congrats, Malke  2010  23:25, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Awesome! Great news for both of us!  C T J F 8 3  chat 08:43, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Good, I was right, and the user was a sock, and is blocked...for now, till he makes a new account...ugh.  C T J F 8 3  chat 08:48, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Too quick to tag!

 * Far too quick! Give people a chance to create the articles before you tag them! Nick carson (talk) 05:00, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Perhaps I did nominate it a bit too fast. But I don't see how just a thunderstorm can be notable and not news.  C T J F 8 3  chat 05:01, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
 * You're right, I've closed the nomination, as I believe I jumped the gun on it....I'll see how it looks in a few days.  C T J F 8 3  chat 05:05, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Help me with refences
Can you fix the refrences cites at Shigeru Miyamoto. -- Pedro J. the rookie 16:21, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Do you just need help expanding the reference formatting?  C T J F 8 3  chat 18:13, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes i suck at it. -- Pedro J. the rookie 18:19, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, 77 needs a new source that one is just a forum, please don't change it now though, I got the page in edit mode.  C T J F 8 3  chat 18:20, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Other than that dose it like a GA candidate. -- Pedro J. the rookie 18:35, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Let me finish these references and I'll look it over  C T J F 8 3  chat 18:39, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Wow! This guy has worked on a lot of good games
 * Can you get an English source for 90
 * "Selected gameography" needs some sort of text other than a Main article link
 * It could use a good copyeditor or 2 (I'm not very good at this) try Peer review/volunteers
 * Other than that it looks like a GA to me. :)  C T J F 8 3  chat 18:52, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Well you may be good to go then (after my first 2 suggestions are fixed) :)  C T J F 8 3  chat 19:04, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah this guy is the best of the best when it comes to video games, i aleeady copyedited with a parter, i will get to work on it. -- Pedro J. the rookie 19:01, 28 February 2010 (UTC)


 * CTJ can you do the sam on Miyamoto's mentor. -- Pedro J. the rookie 18:58, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, it might not be till later tonight though.  C T J F 8 3  chat 19:02, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
 * No worrys i just want to make the guys that made my childhood great and happy GAs.-- Pedro J. the rookie 19:07, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
 * :) I can understand.  C T J F 8 3  chat 19:08, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Can you connect to java. -- Pedro J. the rookie 21:56, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry buddy, just got home.  C T J F 8 3  chat 03:52, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
 * No worrys, and i'm sorry about what that guy posted in here earlyer, he was a real ass@#@#$(I'm a minor so i censored) your a great editor and an awsome friend ;). -- Pedro J. the rookie 13:21, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks buddy, I don't let it get to me anymore, no sense in getting upset from a personal attack. :)  C T J F 8 3  chat 17:48, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

user page
Thanks for the tip. I was just loading up for St. Paddy's Day. I'll take it down now. Also, if you see anything not allowed, feel free to take that down too. Malke 2010  21:44, 6 March 2010 (UTC)


 * I got it from here . Malke 2010  21:46, 6 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Thank you, that was very nice of you to keep me out of trouble. I do see the difference and I won't do that again.  Cheers.  Malke  2010  04:29, 7 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Hi there, I've come begging a favor. A wiki-alert discussion has been concluded by the involved parties and I would like it hatted.  An admin, who is indirectly involved, told me any editor, who is not involved in the discussion, can hat it.  Would you do that for me?  Here is the discussion. .  Thanks.  Malke  2010  20:02, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
 * sorry, forgot to mention the how of it. You do  and put the word hat in the middle of these brackets and it closes or collapses the thread with a banner on the page that says it's closed and asks editors not to comment further.  This would help because a truce has been struck and gadfly's have been attempting to stir the flames again.  Thanks. Malke  2010  20:21, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
 * No worries.  Malke  2010  20:45, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
 * all taken care of. :) Malke  2010  22:43, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Family Gay
Hey man. I just saw that you had previously nominated Family Gay for GA some time ago. I had completely missed it. Sorry about that! After all the articles you've reviewed for the South Park WikiProject, I'm more than happy to review that one for you. I'll try to get to it in the next few days or so... —  Hun ter   Ka  hn  18:19, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, I guess I hadn't actually thought of the whole COI thing. I assumed somebody could verify that it wasn't a conflict just by checking the article and/or the review, but I guess not everybody assumes good faith out there. Ah well. —  Hun ter   Ka  hn  19:44, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Re:Homer Defined
It's getting there, it just needs some polishing and a bit more reception. I'll continue to work on it tomorrow, and hopefully will have it ready soon. -- Scorpion 0422  22:46, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

I think you've asked me about that page before. I would consider it an article, but I think most revewers would place it in the list category, so it might not hurt to at least ask at WT:FLC. As for whether it's ready or not, it needs a larger lead, and there are a bunch of unsourced sections. It also needs some copyediting for better flow. For example, the first paragraph of "Village of East Davenport" has a bunch of short sentences and reads rather choppy. Other parts seem rather POVish, ie. "The beautiful atmosphere of the neighborhood is marred only by the density of traffic on Brady and Harrison Streets." -- Scorpion 0422  20:17, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Archiving
Thanks, but what's the difference. It archived when I put –  and hat in the middle. How is yours different? Malke 2010  08:02, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I put hab the B for bottom....I just figured you wanted only "Warnings, and other nonsense" section archived, not the rest of the talk page see how it archived the sections like "Happy St. Paddy's Day President O'Bama" and "new messages". Was I correct on my assumption?  C T J F 8 3  chat 08:07, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, thanks. I see the difference.  You're always great about helping me.  I appreciate that. Malke  2010  13:36, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
 * No problem, I enjoy it.  C T J F 8 3  chat 20:53, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Additional copyright concerns
Hi. Since you're watching my talk page, you'll probably already know, but another contributor there found similar copyright problems in Phebe Sudlow. I've blanked it for now, as it will also need to be rewritten. There are specific examples at my talk page; please use the temporary page now linked from the article's face for this purpose. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 00:55, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
 * And I see you do know. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 00:56, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for the help in dealing with USER:Nowiveseen's attacks! --Nat Gertler (talk) 20:06, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
 * No problem! S/he was way out of control.  C T J F 8 3  chat 20:07, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

fg title
its been confirmed from directors its Payne not pain. The initial Fox press release mistakinly said pain, but was fixed in the more recent annoucement found here http://www.foxflash.com/div.php/main/page?aID=1z4&mo=3&d=21 and the even more recent...http://www.foxflash.com/div.php/main/page?aID=1z4&mo=3&d=28

Also, on tvguide and msn and the copyright database its payne as wellGrande13 (talk) 13:37, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Works for me.  C T J F 8 3  chat 18:59, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Help
How can I better line up my images on User:Ctjf83/Pictures so, for example, the museum picture doesn't start until after the courthouse picture. C T J F 8 3 chat 19:37, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I've used clear for the first one, is that OK?  fetch  comms  ☛ 19:44, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, and the others fall in line, thank you very much!  C T J F 8 3  chat 19:45, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Iowa Soldiers' Orphans' Home
Congratulations on the above, and in the same vein:

Azulon Dolmayon
I do not understand why "Azulon Dolmayon" page is being deleted —Preceding unsigned comment added by MJ136 (talk • contribs) 21:14, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Why is "Hearts & Ice (album)" being deleted —Preceding unsigned comment added by MJ136 (talk • contribs) 21:18, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Neighborhoods of Davenport
I really think this should be classified as a list. FLC is nowhere near the level of FAC, so it probably wouldn't be too hard to get it to FL status. --Fredddie™ 22:04, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Ya, I've been getting conflicting thoughts on whether it is a GAC or FLC, so I don't know what to do.  C T J F 8 3  chat 06:11, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Stonefunkers
Please do not delete this entry. The group was one of the first Swedish groups to draw upon modern the African-American tradition and set a path for younger rappers, R & B singers and DJ's. I have tried to back it up with some other soures (mostrly local Swedish newspapers) and the bands music videos.VsanoJ (talk) 22:47, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Phebe Sudlow
Can you move the contents to User:Ctjf83/Sandbox? Thanks,  C T J F 8 3  chat 20:05, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I've userfied it to User:Ctjf83/Sandbox2 rather than history merge it with your old one; I wasn't sure how extensive the history was. Besides which, it's really better to start your rewrite from scratch to help avoid that "unauthorized derivative work" problem. I don't generally resurrect articles from the copyright problems board once their date has passed, but given your work on the last one I feel pretty sure you'll give it the attention it deserves. I must admit when I saw there without a proposed rewrite, I did wonder if you had lost interest in it or just forgotten about the concern. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 20:13, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
 * LOL, I had forgotten about it, I'll let you know when it is ready for a review before moving back to mainspace. Thanks,  C T J F 8 3  chat 20:17, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I believe it is ready for your review.  C T J F 8 3  chat 22:03, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
 * All right. I'll come review it within the next few hours. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 22:07, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you, I'll be back to look after work within 4ish hours...(or after CSI Miami) btw, would this qualify for a DYK, since I'm recreating the page, or does it go by the original creation date? I have a good one for her.  C T J F 8 3  chat 22:09, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I...have no idea. I suppose you could list it and explain the history and they'll figure it out. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 23:52, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

I'm afraid this needs some more work. Remember that not only language is covered by copyright, but also structure. Some of the material follows very closely on the arrangement of the original, which is a problem especially when idiosyncratic language is also reproduced. For instance consider the following:
 * Article:


 * Source:


 * Article:


 * Source:


 * Article:


 * Source:

I stopped with this last example. Sudlow's quote is fine (though you have to cite your source with every quote), but you've reproduced the attribution line and the sentence that follows it, with only one word changed. Remember that one of the tests of copyright infringement is whether a lay observer would look at your work and conclude that you have appropriated the the pattern or sequence of your source. With a chronological biography, there is some leeway there...but a good bit less when copying also includes fragmented literal similarity of this sort.

I believe you are still trying to rewrite this sentence by sentence. As suggested in some of the essays I've linked for you earlier, it's a lot better to read the material, absorb the facts, and then write it out yourself. If you're looking at the source at the same time, it is must harder to avoid replication its organization and language. After you've produced your own text, you can look back at it and see if you've inadvertently come too close, because that can happen.

Why don't you rework the material a bit further, and after you've done so, I'll going to ask another copyright administrator to review it. I think you might benefit from some fresh feedback. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 00:23, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

south park sexual healing
my apologies for removing too much information. I just felt that fans were discussing more about the show, rather than the contents of the article. Fighting for Justice (talk) 19:27, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Family Gay
Just to let you know, I'm reviewing it. There are a few minor things that need to be fixed but nothing major. Best, HJ Mitchell  |  Penny for your thoughts?   02:33, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Regarding the source found for the article, if that's the case, I will change to keep. RadManCF &#x2622; open frequency 00:14, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Hull House
Hey, I finally headed down to UIC and got some pictures of Jane Addams' Hull House. ,, . Let me know if any of those are useful. Zagalejo^^^ 23:03, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
 * All 3 look great!! Thank you very much for your help!  C T J F 8 3  chat 23:36, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

WP:CRYSTAL query
Hi! I hope you don't mind me coming to you with a query. Looking at the recent edits to Glee (season 1), I've been trying to understand WP:CRYSTAL in this context. I understand changes such as saying the season is scheduled to consist of 22 episodes, rather than stating that is does consist of 22 episodes, but I'm a little less certain on removing the season finale date when it's been confirmed by Fox. I appreciate that due to unforeseen circumstances it could change, so can we just not include dates at all until they've passed, even with references? On a similar note, was this revision I made acceptable, with the rationale given in my edit summary? I took the future air dates out, but the summaries themselves aren't copyvios, and the episodes exist, even if for whatever reason they never air.

On an unrelated note, I wanted to thank you for your encouragement at the end of last year to try and get all the existing Glee episode articles to GA by April. 11 of the 13 are currently GAs, and the last two are waiting on review. I don't think I'd ever have gone for it without your encouragement, so thank you! Frickative 11:47, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
 * You're welcome, you've done a great job with the episode pages! I might take CRYSTAL too far I guess. It says not to include events several years out with no source. You're right, and my thinking was just what you said, that even though the air date is 99% certain, some event could happen to change it, but I guess that's why Wikipedia is WP:NOTPAPER. We could put the air date back in the infobox, I probably went too far on CRYSTAL in removing it, because it can be updated in the future if needed. As for the revision you linked me, I think it is a good edit, the previous info was removed by this user. My edit, which I'm sure you'll agree with, just removed empty dates, as we don't know if maybe 2 new episodes will air on the same date or not.  C T J F 8 3  chat 17:40, 29 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks! I definitely agree with you removing the blank entry dates - although it's likely the episodes will air then, there's nothing to confirm it yet. I'm not really sure about the season finale date; I think that I won't add it back in myself, but if someone else adds it, I won't revert them either. I wouldn't say you went too far in removing it, because CRYSTAL seems pretty open to interpretation, really :) Frickative  22:23, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I'll do the same and not remove if readded.  C T J F 8 3  chat 22:24, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Re: RfC/U on Delicious Carbuncle
I know from Benj's page that you said you'd be interested in weighing in...but you should know that I'm going to return to focusing on content and try to avoid the pitfall of focusing on editor behavior. While those behaviors are so clearly unacceptable, I can't get involved. I'm not interested in the function of Wikipedia Review or off-wiki Outing or threats that may or may not have been made...

I've taken my side of the Dispute Resolution process as far as I can and will take it another step further when content becomes more affected. If you move forward with an RFC/U, let me know and I'll toss my experiences into the pot. 38.109.88.180 (talk) 21:48, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, I have no experience with them, so I'll just wait for someone who has dealt with DC more to start it.  C T J F 8 3  chat 23:46, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
 * You said that you were interested in weighing in on the matter here}, yes? [[Special:Contributions/207.237.230.164|207.237.230.164] (talk) 04:02, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Whoops, sorry...by "with them", you meant with RfC's, not with Dc. Sorry for the prev edit. 207.237.230.164 (talk) 04:03, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Ctjf83, if you haven't already grabbed a copy of User:Ash/RfC_Delicious_carbuncle (for off-wiki storage), you might want to do it before some brave admin gets around to closing the MfD. Alternatively, you could just ask for the deleted page to be restored to your userspace when and if you are ready to proceed. Delicious carbuncle (talk) 23:40, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads up!  C T J F 8 3  chat 23:46, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
 * It's also available, of course, in Ash's contribution history, any time you want to access it. ;o) 207.237.230.164 (talk) 04:09, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks!  C T J F 8 3  chat 06:43, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

My RFA
I would like to thank you for coming to my defense and contributing in my RFA. Just out of curiosity, what there a reason you didn't cast your vote any way?-- SKATER  Speak. 00:36, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
 * You're welcome! I never comment on RfAs, I've only done like 3 of people I work with regularly. I actually just look at them to see what kind of opposes I might face if I decide to go for it again. I'm thinking of making it my mission to criticize all the bad oppose reasons.  C T J F 8 3  chat 03:41, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Some people have no sense of humor
Especially with this last edit in WP:AfD. — BQZip01 — talk 05:45, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Stop that now! :) LOL, I hate that stupid thing! You got my twice, and my brother got me twice months ago!  C T J F 8 3  chat 05:46, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Feel free to share it... — BQZip01 —  talk 05:48, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
 * LOL, oh I will ;) curse the person who made it! :)  C T J F 8 3  chat 05:50, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Davenport map
Would you rather have a map centered on Davenport alone, just showing small amounts of the bordering cities, or one encompassing the whole Quad Cities area, which would show more of the metro but probably be a bit less detailed when it comes to Davenport itself? I ask because with Sioux Falls the neighboring cities were both smaller and further away than with Davenport, so it was an easier call to center only on Sioux Falls. Alexius Horatius  18:04, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I think I'd like a map of just Davenport, for the FA, and then perhaps, if you wanted to, in the future, do a map of the whole Quad Cities.  C T J F 8 3  chat 18:14, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay. I'll get started on it this afternoon. I'm going to be out of town this weekend, so I probably won't have anything uploaded until next weekend. I'll probably be stopping by now and then with random questions, as I don't have much first-hand knowledge of the area. Alexius  Horatius  18:45, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, any questions you have, about what streets to include or what not, I can easily answer, thanks for your help!  C T J F 8 3  chat 18:47, 19 March 2010 (UTC)


 * I've been planning on making a map for I-280, but it would be no trouble to make a map of Davenport and of the Quad Cities as well. See Category:Road maps of Iowa for a few samples of my work. I created quite a few of the statewide maps, and I have the GIS data to make city maps easily. --Fredddie™ 22:04, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, thank you. Is there a specific program you use to create those maps?  C T J F 8 3  chat 06:11, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I get the GIS data from the Iowa DOT and put them together with QuantumGIS. There seems to be quite the learning curve, but it's super easy once you figure it out. --Fredddie™ 17:05, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Here is what I've made. I would call the map itself (without the signs) finished, but I can certainly remove the signs and add street names, or however you think it should be. --Fredddie™ 19:25, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Looks great! Thank you, would it be easy to add a few of the major street names?  C T J F 8 3  chat 17:08, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I have some other maps I'd like free versions of, if you could be my go-to-guy? :)  C T J F 8 3  chat 17:55, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
 * What streets were you thinking? 53rd, Kimberly, Locust, River Drive, and Brady, naturally.  I have no problem making other maps, but I wouldn't always expect them as quickly as I made that one.  I'm not always in the map-making mood, so they get pushed to the side. --Fredddie™ 20:47, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Ya, those for sure, I can give you a list of what I consider major streets, although that is OR, :). Also, the other maps I'm looking for are very simplistic maps of historic neighborhoods for articles on wikipedia, such as   C T J F 8 3  chat 20:49, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I would look over the four maps here and choose an arbitrary number, say an AADT of 10,000, and list those as your major streets. It's not OR! --Fredddie™ 20:57, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
 * That would work, otherwise I think this G Map zoom level shows the major streets. How would you list the names? Would you remove minor streets from the map and put the major street names on, or high light major streets in a different color?  C T J F 8 3  chat 21:00, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, the gray streets are all one layer. I could probably have the text in black and have a stroke the same color as the city.  That way it would cover the streets and you'd be able to read the text better. --Fredddie™ 21:10, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, sounds good.  C T J F 8 3  chat 21:16, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

OK I added some street names. --Fredddie™ 02:40, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Looks great!  C T J F 8 3  chat 16:43, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Hey, I downloaded Quantum GIS and can't figure out how to work it/load a map to it can be edited?  C T J F 8 3  chat 20:00, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
 * We at WP:USRD created this for new map makers. The Maps task force page itself has the color key we use.  This helped me greatly, so hopefully it helps you as well. --Fredddie™ 21:38, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, thank you,  C T J F 8 3  chat 02:18, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Here you go: (one of the links you provided was a duplicate) --Fredddie™ 06:59, 4 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Looks good, is it possible to put streets in? I'm thinking the border streets of each neighborhood and a few of the majors for a point of reference? I know I'm asking a lot! :)  C T J F 8 3  chat 01:46, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Homer Defined
The article Homer Defined, which you nominated as a Good Article, is undergoing review. The article does not seem to meet the requirements for a good article. It has been put on hold for a week; if these issues are addressed satisfactorily within that period the article will be promoted to GA, otherwise it will be failed. Lampman (talk) 04:12, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

User:Ctjf83/Sandbox
Hi. As I said at my talk page, I'm bringing this over here because my talk page tends to get quite long under the ordinary course of events. :)

This is a good step forward, but I still have some concerns with the rewrite at User:Ctjf83/Sandbox, as in some places it seems almost to be an abridgment. For instance, consider the following, from the source:

The sandboxed version says:

The structure is very similar, although a few bits have been moved, and some content has been omitted.

There are other passages that seem similarly to stick fairly close to the source:

The rewrite says:

Particularly note the last sentence of the rewrite there, which is word-for-word copied from the source.

A smaller passage:

The rewrite says:

Structurally, the resemblance is strong.

Another small one:

The rewrite says:

The structure is changed here, but the language is substantially the same.

Compare also:
 * "Certain practical advantages of the cottage system were shown during three fires that broke out over the next few decades." (source)
 * "Advantages of the new cottage system were shown during three fires that broke out in the Home."(article)


 * "The next day’s Morning Democrat Gazette pointed out that if home was not set up with several different buildings, all 350 children at the time would have been homeless, and some may have not survived the fire."(source)
 * "As the next day’s Morning Democrat Gazette pointed out, if the cottage system had not been in place, all 350 of the children would have been homeless, and some probably would not have been able to escape."(article)


 * "The state legislature charged the Trustees in 1876 with finding legitimate employment for the residents after they were discharged, so beginning in the 6th grade, students spent half of each school day in the classroom, and the other half learning a practical trade from staff members."(source)
 * "In 1876, the Iowa State Legislature stated that legitimate employment had to be found for the residents after they were discharged. Beginning in the sixth grade, students spent half of the school day in the classroom, and half learning a trade."(article)


 * "Although the Home was self-sufficient and virtually its own little village, it was a part of the Davenport community as well."(source)
 * "The Home was self-sufficient and part of the Davenport community."(article)

I'm afraid that I believe close paraphrasing concerns persist in this article, though it is considerably better paraphrased than the former. I'd be happy to ask another administrator who works copyrights to review, however, if you'd like a second opinion.

I wonder if you are running into problems when trying to revise as you go. It is extremely difficult to rewrite content sentence by sentence. I know some people suggest reading the entire source, doing something else, and then coming back to write what you recall of it. (If you do that, you still have to re-read your source to be sure you haven't accidentally come too close...or accidentally gotten something wrong. :)) I myself am too impatient for that technique. But what I do is read a paragraph or a couple of paragraph, make bullet notes on what seems essential, and write up a new presentation for it. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 22:49, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I understand the concerns, would it be possible if you helped me fix them? I mean there is only so many ways you can say the same thing and provide the same info.  C T J F 8 3  chat 03:57, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
 * About the "the first 150 children arrived by steamboat to live in the new home". there is only so many ways to say that. Note on Verno's source "In November 1865 the children, 150 in number, were brought from Farmington to Davenport"  C T J F 8 3  chat 05:57, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I hope I'm not upsetting anyone by putting in my two cents here, but I found a webpage that reprints an old article from the Davenport Daily Times. With at least two real references for the older history it should be easier to find a different way to say things. VernoWhitney (talk) 04:56, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you Verno, great source....and no, you are not upsetting me at all :)  C T J F 8 3  chat 04:59, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Using that page as a source, would the author be A.P. Doe and is the publisher The Daily Times or ancestry.com?  C T J F 8 3  chat 05:27, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Hi. It's early yet, and I'm barely awake, so forgive me if I'm incoherent. :) I wanted to come and see what was up here first thing. I'd be happy to help, and finding another source is great. The more sources we have, the easier it will be. The author of the new source is A.P. Does, yes. The publisher is the Daily Times. And it's a 1900 source, which means that any language used in that article is free for reproduction, because it's public domain by age. (Good find, Verno!) With respect to your "the first 150 children arrived by steamboat to live in the new home", a single phrase does not alone constitute a copyright problem. The problem is when there is a pattern of close following such that an independent reader would conclude that you had read and copied from the source. The more of these there are, the greater the likelihood there would be that a court would find infringement. But, again, note the pattern in the structure:

It's not just the words, it's the reproduction of the arrangement of facts from the source, which is a creative element governed by US copyright law.

I find it helpful to not only use different language, but also to rearrange content to avoid this. It's far easier to demonstrate this technique with a larger passage of text and when awake, but for instance, I might say:

I'd store up the fact that Wittenmyer remained until 1867 for later.

Again, it's easier to do with larger passages of text. Rewriting can be hard business when you only one have major source, but setting yourself the task of doing it line by line is nearly impossible. I myself would never attempt it. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:38, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, since Wiki is free I'm "borrowing" what you wrote. I'm not sure where else to put the sentence about her leaving, because the sentence after that one goes into a later time frame. Here are my most recent changes, I hope it is almost ready.  C T J F 8 3  chat 19:04, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Not to throw another curveball at you, but Wikipedia isn't entirely free. :) You are very welcome to copy that content; I waive my right to attribution for it. But generally when you copy material within Wikipedia you do have to give credit; see Copying within Wikipedia for more, including how credit is provided. (Basically, we don't waive our copyright to our contributions here; we just liberally license them for reuse.)


 * Do you want to talk about ways to potentially rewrite some of the other problematic content? The easiest approach here, as I've said above, is to overhaul an entire paragraph, though; it would be easier than specifically finding new ways to say and arrange "Mrs. Wittenmyer read this letter to a convention of soldier’s aid societies and sanitation organizations on September 23, 1863. By February of 1864, a board had been organized in Des Moines to establish and operate a facility for the orphans of Iowa soldiers."


 * When you think it's ready, I'd like to ask another administrator to take a look at it. After I work closely with an article, I prefer to get fresh eyes to compare. It's much easier for somebody who hasn't seen the content of either page to judge similarity than it will be for me, since I'll be familiar with both. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 20:40, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Ya, what are your suggestion for the rewrite 2 paragraphs up? I think I've been working with this for so long that I probably can't rewrite it well.  C T J F 8 3  chat 20:51, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
 * We can wait a few days to let your batteries recharge. :) It would probably be better if you took a shot at it. If there any concerns remaining, that way, I might be able to help you figure out how to avoid issues in the future. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:17, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok  C T J F 8 3  chat 18:50, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, I rewrote that part, hopefully now it is ok, otherwise I'll need outside help.  C T J F 8 3  chat 04:12, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm off to take a look. And, by the way, per your note at my talk page I am looking at some of your other contributions at User:Moonriddengirl/Ctjf83. So far, I haven't found any other issues, but I'll try to poke at it episodically while working on the ones where I know issues exist. :) This is strictly informal. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 18:26, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I think that works quite well. :) That just leaves the smaller bits of text I mentioned above. Again, individually none of these would be a problem (although we should avoid them where possible), but cumulatively they do show a pattern that can create issues. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 18:31, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
 * What am I missing? I "borrowed" the steamboat one from you, and just fixed the letter one.  C T J F 8 3  chat 18:43, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
 * The little fragments under "Compare also" in the collapsed section. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 18:48, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Keeping fingers crossed  C T J F 8 3  chat 18:59, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
 * They're all pretty small, so I think that probably does it. :) My only lingering concerns is the bit about the newspaper. It sounds like you're attributing and paraphrasing the newspaper, but you're not: you're paraphrasing a source talking about the newspaper. :) It's not essential, but I would recommend a slightly different approach, maybe like:
 * In any event, I think it's probably okay for article space as is. And if you want to paste your content into it, you are free to use any content I've suggested here without attribution. :D --Moonriddengirl (talk) 19:09, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
 * In any event, I think it's probably okay for article space as is. And if you want to paste your content into it, you are free to use any content I've suggested here without attribution. :D --Moonriddengirl (talk) 19:09, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Dirty work
Hi CT- Hope all is well. Would you be willing to add a ref to Fort Atkinson State Preserve and the history section of Fort Atkinson, Iowa to a chapter in my fort book? This is a general background source ref (you will have to open this page in edit mode to extract it): Thanks! Bill Whittaker (talk) 13:27, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Sure, do you just want them at the end of the history section of both pages?  C T J F 8 3  chat 17:24, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
 * The chapter is a general history of the fort, it can be put in at the end as a general ref. Thanks! Bill Whittaker (talk) 00:58, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, btw, (and for reference to anyone who reads this in the future and suggests anything), I checked your book out at the library and look forward to reading it over.  C T J F 8 3  chat 01:00, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

LGBT rights opposition category is being challenged
I have created the category as we discussed and now I am getting challenged that it violates some rule...help--DCX (talk) 18:14, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, I'll come look.  C T J F 8 3  chat 17:36, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Could you look over something and comment, please?
I'm looking for some input from someone outside WP:USRD. Could you look over Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (icons) and possibly comment? They're proposing removing all highway icons from lists of similarly numbered routes, which could have ramifications for articles like Interstate 235, Iowa Highway 130, et cetera, where icons are used extensively, but reasonably (from the project's perspective). Thanks. &mdash;Fredddie™ 18:46, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Sure, I'll come look.  C T J F 8 3  chat 17:36, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

New South Park articles
Hey man. Just so you know, there are a fresh crop of South Park GANs out there, including Sexual Healing (South Park), The Tale of Scrotie McBoogerballs and Medicinal Fried Chicken. If you're interested in giving them a look, I'd appreciate it, but no pressure if you can't. Thanks! Hope all is well! —  Hun ter   Ka  hn  03:14, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Sure, I'll review one (or more) in a bit.  C T J F 8 3  chat 17:36, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks much! —  Hun ter   Ka  hn  22:49, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Any time, buddy.  C T J F 8 3  chat 03:14, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Neighborhoods of Davenport, Iowa
The article Neighborhoods of Davenport, Iowa you nominated as a good article has failed ; see Talk:Neighborhoods of Davenport, Iowa for reasons why the nomination failed. If or when these points have been taken care of, you may apply for a new nomination of said article. If you oppose this decision, you may ask for a reassessment. –– Jezhotwells (talk) 22:32, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Phebe Sudlow
Thanks for the nudge. :) I've had a look at User:Ctjf83/Sudlow. Most of it seems to be very well rewritten. Good job. I am a little uncomfortable with how closely a few passages follow the structure of the original, particularly in light of how heavily you rely on that source. While you've omitted some information, I'm afraid that some of what remains reads a bit like an abridgment. Compare the following from the article:

From the source:

The first sentence is particularly close: "Year age began this there where this." The language has changed in large part, but the structure is identical. The second sentence is also pretty close: "Year this happened she moved with him there year later moved there." This kind of thing can be addressed by some creative flipping as we've discussed before. With passages that follow structure like this, it looks as though you've brought in a thesaurus to make it seem different rather than rewriting it.

That's the worst of it, though this single passage is also uncomfortably close given your reliance on the source: From the article: {{quotation|On June 19, 1874, Sudlow was unanimously chosen as the superintendent for the Davenport schools, become the first woman in history to obtain this achievement. })

From the source:

(I think the next sentence is fine.)

Not as close (or as long) as the passage above, this one could also benefit from some revision of structure. But, note, in one thing you've strayed too far: the source says she was the first woman in the US to achieve this, not the first woman in history. :) Though I don't know, they could have been doing it for decades in Bangladesh. :D --Moonriddengirl (talk) 00:21, 12 April 2010 (UTC)


 * I think the changes are good. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 20:43, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank goodness! Thanks for all your help!  C T J F 8 3  chat 21:46, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Episkopon
Hello -- you just removed requests for help and peer review from the talk page for Episkopon, and wrote to me "Welcome and thank you for experimenting with Wikipedia...etc." But this article badly needs help! I'm sorry if those were the wrong templates to use, but I did a little reading and thought they might be. I am new and I don't mean to cause any disruption by doing the wrong thing. Would you be able to take a quick glance at the Episkopon article and help it out a little bit? It is a real mess. A serious problem is that living persons are identified as alumni of this organization, which recently was in the news for nearly killing a student during hazing, but there are no citations provided for that. The living persons are highly notable, including a former Governor General of Canada and a former Minister of Defence and Foreign Affairs. Obviously there is some intervention needed. Would you please help? And again, I'm sorry if I used the wrong tools to attract help to the article. Hopefully it works out anyways. Thank you.
 * It's no problem at all if you accidentally use the wrong templates, Wikipedia is a learning process, I will take a look at the article. Thanks for your help on the project! Sorry if I seemed a little forward in the message I gave you. C T J F 8 3  chat 07:13, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much! It is nice of you to help out.
 * You're welcome, I apologize if I came off to strong with your talk page notice. I have removed people as to not potentially violate WP:BLP. I'm headed to bed now, but what else do you feel needs to be fixed? I will take another look tomorrow when I wake up and am refreshed. For your knowledge, you can sign your talk page posts by typing ~ :) Please let me know how I can be of more assistance on this or any article, or other issue you might need assistance with.  C T J F 8 3  chat 07:28, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

LGBT Rights Opposition
I am, writing you and everyone who was involved in this discussion to tell you where the discussion / election is taking place, not canvassing, just to let you know.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2010_April_12#Category:LGBT_rights_opposition

I hope you will read both sides of the issue and use your best and fair judgment to make a decision.

Doug--DCX (talk) 05:32, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Phebe Sudlow
Hello! Your submission of Phebe Sudlow at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Calmer  Waters  03:56, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Rallo Tubbs
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FoD
Hey, thanks for posting a warning on that dude's talk page; I was actually doing the same (edit conflict, lol!) DP 76764  (Talk) 16:02, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Not a problem....I got your back :)  C T J F 8 3  chat 16:03, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thanks for correcting my mistakes. --I dream of horses If you reply here, please leave me a message on my talk page. @ 18:35, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
 * You're welcome.  C T J F 8 3  chat 18:46, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

The Simpsons Star
With the Simpsons WikiProject having reached it's goal of getting every single article about a season 1-9 episode, 203 in total, of The Simpsons to GA status. With that accomplished, I am trying to thank every member (and non-member) who was involved in the effort in some way.

RfA
Get started on a nom. I'll second it whenever. Bearian (talk) 14:46, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
 * It might not be a good idea right now, since I've been having some copyright issues 1 and 2. Those will probably cause issue, right?  C T J F 8 3  chat 17:55, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, stay low for a couple of weeks at least. But you can set up the template or sandbox when you have the time. Bearian (talk) 19:36, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Help
Can someone change the link color on User:UBX/User Final Fantasy-lover so it is white, currently you can't read "Final Fantasy" when it is blue against the black background. I tried, but that didn't work. C T J F 8 3 chat 17:10, 25 April 2010 (UTC)


 * ✅. With Wikilinks, the span-tag needs to be inside the, not outside, otherwise it will be overwritten. Regards  So Why  18:01, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, thank you!  C T J F 8 3  chat 18:01, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

IN-U
Hey. Out of curiosity, what's "IN-U"? I searched a little and couldn't figure it out. Ol Yeller '''Talktome 18:10, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I should link to it WP:IN-U it's the manual of style for writing about fiction.  C T J F 8 3  chat 18:11, 25 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Ah ok. Makes sense.  Thanks!  Ol Yeller  '''Talktome 18:12, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Not sure if it is a mistake, but your current signature bolds the time stamp, not that it is a big deal, but if you don't want it to you need the ''' after the " Talktome "   C T J F 8 3  chat 18:15, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

McClellan Heights Historic District - map vs photo
Might you be interested in having the district map and house photo stitched together in one image for the infobox? I'm not sure how the end result would look, but I'd be willing to give it a go. I did something like it for the Tinker Building in Orlando, to get both parts of it. Lemme know. Btw, how'd you get that page notice message to display about having all your conversations on one page? I'd love to do that for mine. I'll be watching here. Later! :) --Ebyabe (talk) 18:34, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
 * If you could try the stitch idea that would be great! For the notice start User talk:Ebyabe/Editnotice and put what you want, note User talk:Ctjf83/Editnotice for my example.  C T J F 8 3  chat 20:13, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Consensus needed
Could you please weigh in on the discussion found here? Gage (talk) 06:11, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Sure.  C T J F 8 3  chat 17:20, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Happy birthday!
I haven't updated my watchlist lately, and something caught my eye... :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 17:28, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much! It is appreciated!  C T J F 8 3  chat 17:32, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Huh is your birthdate 1983 by any chance? I have finally found someone born on the same day and year as me I think. Dr. Blofeld       White cat 21:35, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes it is! That's awesome to have the same birthday and birth year as someone else...Happy Birthday to you too!  C T J F 8 3  chat 21:36, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

I Never Met the Dead Man
could you help me out with the refrenceing in this artical so it can pass. -- Pedro J. the rookie 19:39, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, what specifically do you need help with?  C T J F 8 3  chat 20:53, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
 * The refrenceing cause i am not good at it(which are the same,which are dead). -- Pedro J. the rookie 03:39, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, I removed the dead links, except #4, so you can try and find a source for it, I looked a bit, and couldn't find anything. Otherwise the references are good.  C T J F 8 3  chat 16:50, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Susie Swanson's wheelchair
I accidentally re-inserted this while copying/pasting Kevin's older bio. I just wanted to let you know that I agree the wheelchair comment is stupid, and it was an accident I put that in there. Geeky Randy (talk) 19:15, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, I figured that might be what happened, since your revert also changed Peter to Petar. I'm ok with the revert of Kevin dying in the atomic blast.  C T J F 8 3  chat 19:34, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

RE: What´s Happening
Hey Ctj long time, im currently working on Da Boom and other old episdos)seeing that Gage is taking care of the recent ones so what have you been up to, saw that Family Gay passed...awsome!!!. -- Pedro J. the rookie 19:10, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Sure why not i mostly need cultural refrences, and do not feel bad its been like 3 weeks i did not connect to wiki but i just pulled me in was plaining a show that i have. -- Pedro J. the rookie 19:24, 17 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Ctjf i need you to get me cultural refrences of 2 episodes(hope this dose not bother Chitty chitty death bang and Da Boom. -- Pedro J. the rookie 02:11, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Your Removal of 'Divorced' from Will Schuester
If you go to nearly any other television character who has been divorced, you'll see that the divorce is noted next to the ex-spouse's name in the same manner as it is with Terri's. Examples include Allison Cameron, Perry Cox, Miranda Bailey, Addison Montgomery, Mary Richards, and Ross Geller, and that's just after a few minutes' worth of research ... but I have yet to find a divorced character who doesn't have that divorce noted in the infobox. Your removal of it is counter to the repeated consensus of how to treat an ex-spouse in the infobox-character template, and so I'd like to respectfully ask you to stop imposing your own preference upon the issue. If you disagree, then I suggest we either get a third opinion (full disclosure: I also provide third opinions on occasion; I don't think that will cause bias, though) or solicit feedback from other users at WikiProject Television. WCityMike 04:23, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Can you point out any GA or FA articles with that? Note FA Homer Simpson how his exwife from an episode isn't listed. Just because those low quality articles have ex listed, doesn't mean that is the way it should be. C T J F 8 3  pride 04:27, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes. Going through all 107 articles on this list, Erica Hahn has a "ex-girlfriend" paranthetical note in her character infobox; we have ex-wife notations in infoboxes for Smoking Man, James Wilson, and Alexander Mahone; we have divorced parantheticals in Todd Manning and Dimitri Marick; we have paranthetical years of marriage next to spouses in infoboxes for Chrissie Watts and Betty Williams; we have fiancee/engaged notations in infoboxes for John Winchester and Maggie Horton, and we have deceased notations next to the spouses in infoboxes for Adrian Monk, Maggie Horton, Ellen Harvelle, and Ned Flanders. WCityMike 05:04, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Also, off the featured articles list, see Troy McClure -- this link is to the edit of the page as it was when it was the 5/28/08 featured article of the day for Wikipedia, and thus on the front page. WCityMike 05:50, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Would you argue against this edit too? I ask for a 3rd opinion. C T J F 8 3  pride 04:34, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I have no opinion on this edit. As to the second part, I'll put in a third-opinion request. WCityMike 05:32, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
 * (ec) From my understanding of WP:WAF and the 'IN-U' section, things like ex and deceased don't belong on fictional character pages. These are real world items that should be left to real world people. For the first (#) of episodes, Will and Terri where married, therefore causing the infobox to be false. If we use divorced, why not ex for boyfriend/girlfriend, which WCityMike said he has no opinion on one way or the other...what is the real difference?...as for Tory McClure, one could argue that it is better to have exwife, then no relatives at all (which would be the case), but I won't argue that. C T J F 8 3  pride 05:55, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Before any 3rd party weigh in, I suggest perhaps discussion from a broader audience, as it could effect many character pages. C T J F 8 3  pride 06:02, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
 * A third opinion isn't binding; the opinion provided is just a tool that can be used towards reaching consensus. I suggest we wait to see what the third-opinion provider says, since I went ahead and put it on the board after you requested it.  Just getting the opinion won't bind you.  If that doesn't solve the problem for you, we can maybe do a request for comment on WikiProject Television, since Glee doesn't have a separate WikiProject.  Sound good?  Frankly, though, given that I've provided you with six plain examples, 13 good articles, and one featured article that all employ the methodology you're trying to take a counterposition to, I'm honestly not sure why you're still sticking to the same opinion. WCityMike 06:16, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Just because 100 GA/FAs has something, doesn't make it right, do you see any validity in my point? Perhaps I misunderstand WP:IN-U C T J F 8 3  pride 06:19, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually, yes, just because 100 GA/FAs have something, that makes it have an extremely high probability of being right. Do you know how much superdetailed, ultra-nitpicking, fine-tooth-comb-looking-over an article goes through to get GA'd or FA'd?  For 13 GAs and 1 FA --  especially , good grief, a featured article that was on the front page, those guys are even more finely gone over -- to employ that methodology means that a considerably large number of Wikipedia editors, in the process of making those articles shipshape for the review process, decided they had no problem with that methodology; otherwise, it would've been commented upon in the formal review process an article goes through to get that distinction.  Given that, there's established consensus on the issue.  With all due respect, to answer the question you ask me, I don't see any validity in your point, no. WCityMike 06:28, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, if you could answer these questions, then maybe there won't be a need for 3O, what's the difference between divorced and ex-bf/gf, the WP:IN-U stuff, ie. "Fictography – a fictional character article or section written as if it were a biography." and "Using infoboxes intended for real world topics.", and in the first several episodes were they are married, it makes the infobox false....I know real world people are updated if they are divorced, but that goes against IN-U guidelines.  C T J F 8 3  pride 06:35, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
 * (a) There's a substantial difference in meaning between a husband and a boyfriend, or a wife and a girlfriend, or a partner and a boyfriend/girlfriend; thus, there's a substantial difference between an ex-spouse and an ex-girlfriend. I'm not taking a position one way or the other on Rachel's article, but except in rare cases, spouses are usually of greater meaning to a character's life than boy-/girlfriends.  (b) The infobox template being used is infobox-character, which is an infobox intended for fictional characters.  Thus, that subpoint's not correct.  (c) Infoboxes are written as of the fictional universe's present, or, to put it a different way, as of the most recently released episode.  If a character is dead, that character's infobox is going to reflect that he or she is dead, even though "it makes the infobox false" for the episodes where they were alive.  (d) Describing fictiography as a problem does not suggest biographical information about a fictional character must be absent from its article.  I see you're next door to my state, in Iowa, so you'll hopefully understand when I say it's late and I'm hitting the hay for now.  I'll pick this up with you tomorrow.  Or later today, I suppose, to be more accurate.  Good night for now. WCityMike 06:53, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

I agree with you on the going to bed part...as for the rest, I'm not really gonna argue too much one way or another, we can wait for a 3rd party, as this isn't really getting anywhere...night! C T J F 8 3 pride 07:02, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the 3O. Given this opinion, Ctjf83, have we reached consensus or do you still feel differently? WCityMike 19:28, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't wanna be a pain...but I'd like a 3O from a more experienced user, one with more than 8 edits. C T J F 8 3  pride 19:33, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't wanna be a pain...but I'd like a 3O from a more experienced user, one with more than 8 edits. C T J F 8 3  pride 19:33, 12 June 2010 (UTC)


 * For what it's worth, I agree with Ctjf83. I believe that to avoid an in-universe/recentist slant, the infobox as far as possible should apply to the character's time in the show as a whole. I think it's basically the same logic as listing all a show's stars in the series' infobox rather than just the ones in the current series, and I generally find that intricacies of relationship details are better explained in Plot/Storylines sections. Frickative  20:05, 12 June 2010 (UTC)


 * It's just not what's being done in infoboxes: the evidence is very clear. Frickative, I'm sorry, are you a third-opinion provider coming here from the board request? WCityMike 21:53, 12 June 2010 (UTC)


 * No, I just happened to notice the discussion on my watchlist. 13 GAs and 1 FA aren't a particularly large sample, and I'd be interested to know how many comparable articles don't have such notes in the infobox. For the record, I put the majority of the Erica Hahn article together myself, and the note there was not present at the time it passed GA, but has been added after the fact, so would not have been a consideration of the reviewer there. Frickative  22:11, 12 June 2010 (UTC)


 * "13 GAs and 1 FA aren't a particularly large sample." *head asplode* Yeah, I'll have to disagree with that one. WCityMike 22:32, 12 June 2010 (UTC)


 * No need at all for rudeness or dramatics. 13 isn't a large sample of 107 articles, and I believe I asked a reasonable question re: how many of the remaining 94 articles don't follow the same convention. I will add that I wouldn't necessarily object to noting the dates of their marriage in the infobox (if known). I think that that presentation would negate the issue that 'divorced' presents, whereby, as Ctjf83 notes above, for the majority of the series (20 of 22 episodes), the characters aren't divorced. Frickative  22:39, 12 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Only a certain proportion of the 107 GAs have divorces or spouses, so it's not 13/107, it's 13/(??). However, since this disagreement now has three people -- Ctjf83, Frickative and I -- WP:3Oers automatically disqualify themselves from the argument.  It's solely for disagreements between two editors.  The next stop is a WP:RfC on WikiProject Television.  I set one up here. WCityMike 23:05, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

Help!
What is the policy for moving someone's work form their user subpage, to an article page? User:Fpigulski/Mike Denklau, the user hasn't edited since March. Thanks, C T J F 8 3  pride 04:27, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I personally would suggest a note on the user's talk page stating that you are planning on moving the userspace article to the main space (and maybe a welcome) (looks like have already). It is possible that they may simply not be aware of how to do this themselves. As all material written on Wikipedia it meant to somehow build or maintain the encyclopedia, and automatically released under the GNU Free Documentation License and the Creative Commons Attribution/Share-Alike License, it can be utilized within reason throughout the project (referring to userspace "articles" not personal specifically personal information). I would still attempt to notify the editor first, encase they wish to cleanup anything before the move or for some reason do not wish it to be moved yet, and also as a courtesy (I would give it a week for a response and then be bold). Kindly Calmer   Waters  08:30, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, thank you for your help! C T J F 8 3  pride 16:21, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Donna Tubbs AfD
Could you please voice your support or opposition here? Gage (talk) 03:29, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅ sure. C T J F 8 3  pride 05:04, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

Davenport Ladies College
CT: With your knowlege of all things Quad Cities, do you recognize this building: File:Ladies college 1856.jpg. You can find the original text at Google Books, search "Iowa as it is in 1856". An interesting building, probably one of the tallest in Iowa at the time, judging from the sketch, but, beyond the reference in "Iowa as it is in 1856" I know nothing else about it, hoping you might... Bill Whittaker (talk) 18:13, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Hmm, interesting, right off the bat, I don't recognize the building, it looks similar to one in the Village of East Davenport, I'll take a drive tomorrow (headed to work soon), and see if it matches up. The college was originally called Mount Ida P 173, the book says it is at 3rd St and College/Bridge streets, which doesn't exist note the map, College and Bridge only go to 9th St, then run into the river. I had created Mount Ida (Davenport, Iowa) in my beginning days of Wikipedia, but requested speedy deletion, because I didn't think it was notable enough, but it has to be related, and Mount Ida is near the Village of East Davenport. I will definitely go out driving tomorrow in this area to try and search the building, and head to the library, and do more internet searches to see what I can come up with. C T J F 8 3  pride 20:42, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I think it was one of the tallest buildings in Iowa in the 1850s. judging from the sketch, well over 60 feet, probably approaching 80 feet, but that's just a guess. I'd be shocked if it still stood. Bill Whittaker (talk) 20:54, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Me too, I will go check tomorrow! C T J F 8 3  pride 01:33, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Well the building I thought it might be didn't pan out. I will have to do more research. Being that the supposed location of it doesn't exist, I drove up and down College and Bridge streets, and the best my OR could come up with is that at 10th Streets and the other 2 is a large apartment complex, (Google Street view and (well I don't know how to link to a Bing ariel map, of 1000 College Ave)), shows it is very feasible that the college was there and then tore for an apartment complex. C T J F 8 3  pride 20:57, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I appreciate it. Still a damn big building for 1852.... I'll upload an 1865 sketch of Davenport for you as thanks. Bill Whittaker (talk) 13:55, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Bigger than I thought: file:Mount ida 1858.jpg. It probably was taller than Old Cap, but I'm not certain. In the skyline I uploaded, I suspect it is the domed building on the left in the background.... Bill Whittaker (talk) 17:08, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

FYI
Don't worry about it, I will soon get to adding in the reviews suggested by that user. Just have to do a bit more research and cite formatting, etc. :) Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 20:03, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, thank you, C T J F 8 3  pride 20:39, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Request for mediation accepted
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 * I started things off at Wikipedia talk:Requests for mediation/Will Schuester. Andrevan@ 05:11, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Davenport, 1865
File:Davenport Barber 1865p517 crop.jpg Here ya go...Bill Whittaker (talk) 14:08, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Looks great! I'm going to put it in a few articles, thanks! C T J F 8 3  pride 17:08, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

SVT: The "Iowa Census Vandal"
Hi. I've found what I currently believe is an anonymous IP editor who has persistently and subtly vandalized over 20 articles, all regarding cities or counties in Iowa. The pattern that is emerging is that this editor changes demographic information, subtly adjusting various percentages of White, Black, Asian, and other ethnic groups. I've written more about it on my talk page and would appreciate any feedback on the situation which you'd care to give. Cheers! -- Bgpaulus (talk) 22:12, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Please do add more Iowa articles to your watchlist. For a couple of years, I've watched almost all of Iowa's community articles (with the exceptions of only the large cities), but I have enough things going on in real life that I've dropped everything except the townships from my watchlist.  Nyttend (talk) 01:10, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
 * What do you think of creating a public watchlist like I mentioned? C T J F 8 3  pride 01:11, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Maybe a nice idea. If you want to do geographical locations, you'd do well to start with the county navboxes.  Nyttend (talk) 18:09, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
 * When I created The Simpsons Watchlist, I used AWB, which I don't have anymore. Do you know an easy way to create a watchlist, without typing everything out? C T J F 8 3  pride 19:14, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Userbox Question
I was wondering where you got the "Life Was Worth Losing" userbox. George Carlin is my all-time favorite comic and is greatly missed in the NH household. Thanks... NeutralHomer •  Talk  • 05:27, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh how I love George!! You can add it by putting on your user page. If you go to Template:WP:UBS you will find all sorts of userboxes! Any more questions, ask away!! :)  C T J F 8 3  pride 06:12, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank ya much :) -  NeutralHomer •  Talk  • 06:14, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
 * You are very welcome!! C T J F 8 3  pride 06:15, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

First Baptist Church Photo
The one I took wasn't the best photo. I realized later that something was casting a shadow over the lens and the left side of the photo was darker. If you have a better photo, go ahead and post it over mine. I fixed the problem and was going to take another photo, but now I won't have to. Best regards.Farragutful (talk) 14:39, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Yea, go right ahead and post photos for my articles. I'm in the QCs for a couple of weeks right now, and thought I would take advantage of the situation and post some photos.  Thanks for posting the First Baptist photo as well as the others.Farragutful (talk) 17:26, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

My World (Ron Artest album)
Is there any way to make the article My World (Ron Artest album) not be nonminated for deletion despite adding reliable sources? Wayne Olajuwon (talk) 23:02, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
 * You would have to find reliable source as to why the album is WP:Notable for inclusion on Wikipedia, see WP:NALBUMS for more specific guidelines. C T J F 8 3  pride 05:50, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

LeClaire/Le Claire
Frankly, newspapers aren't as authoritative as the GNIS, and anyway as was pointed out, the city website is inconclusive. Moreover, the Census Bureau and the GNIS agree; it's not as if they have some sort of indifference. Nyttend (talk) 01:28, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Hmm, i thot the change at National Register of Historic Places listings in Scott County, Iowa was acceptable, and entered it at wp:NRIS info issues IA's town names section. If either/both of you have additional info, pls. consider adding there.  The info issues page is to keep track of items to be raised with the National Register.  Many items there have already been raised. --doncram (talk) 01:49, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Help
I don't know what it wants for ref 38. C T J F 8 3 chat 20:31, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
 * The template seems to be indicating that you have forgotten the "title" attribute in the template. You should use the title of the page as it appears at the top of the browser window (obviously not including the name of the browser usually appended to this). Hope that helps.  Giftiger Wunsch   [TALK]  20:46, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually, I note that you did this, and I don't see an issue with the template syntax. Perhaps someone else will spot something I missed; I'm replacing the helpme tag.  Giftiger Wunsch   [TALK]  20:49, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
 * There was a minor typo in the 'title' parameter - fixed :) Frickative  20:55, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
 * LOL, wow, just a typo, thank you both! C T J F 8 3  chat 21:24, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Thank you
Thanks for getting Untitled Griffin Family History through GA. I actually didn't even notice that the review had begun! Anyway, thanks for addressing ThinkBlue's concerns. Gage (talk) 18:40, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for getting Dial Meg for Murder through as well. Gage (talk) 18:41, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
 * No problem, any time! :) C T J F 8 3  chat 18:55, 30 June 2010 (UTC)