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Happy editing! Cheers, JimRenge (talk) 11:03, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

Using Lusseyran‎‎´s autobiography as a source
Hello, I saw your edits a Jacques Lusseyran‎‎ and I want to let you know that wikipedia articles should generally be sourced to reliable, independent secondary sources. Per WP:RSPRIMARY, "articles should be based mainly on reliable secondary sources, i.e., a document or recording that relates to or discusses information originally presented elsewhere". His autobiography should not be used too often, it is neither independent nor secondary.Thanks JimRenge (talk) 11:31, 7 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi Jim, Understood. (Use autobiographies with caution.).  Specifically, Jacques Lusseyran states that the 1943 leaflet drop was devised and organised by ‘Denis’.  That is why I deleted the word ‘organised’ .  J.L. refers to tear gas pens, (disguised as pens, supplied by London), which is why I replaced the word ‘canister’.  I think it’s most likely that J.L. would have got these details right.  Perhaps it would be safer not to quote the numbers for the operation (squads, leaftets), which are also taken from the autobiography.  I have cited the autobiography for the fact of J.L. having learnt enough German to understand radio broadcasts.  I doubt there would be an alternative source for this.  Would you agree that in this particular case my edits are okay?  C M Beswick (talk) 12:14, 7 November 2023 (UTC)


 * I see no problem with the content and I don´t intend to revert your edits; but I think it would be a good idea not to add more citations of his autobiography. A quick search in google scholar did not bring many helpful results. The sourcing in the fr wikipedia article is not much better than the English wp article. Happy editing.  JimRenge (talk) 22:04, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you Jim. I’ll be cautious when editing. C M Beswick (talk) 23:06, 7 November 2023 (UTC)