User talk:Cadbury333

greetings from groupuscule


Hi Eksilverman, welcome to Wikipedia! I want to thank you for your extensive contributions at Gregory Bateson and Iatmul people and to offer my assistance with navigating this wacky website of ours. (You can communicate with me by editing here—your page is now on my "watchlist"—or drop me a message at User talk:groupuscule.) If you're interested in doing Wikipedia assignments with your students, there are some resources on that here. Good luck with the beginning of school. See you around! groupuscule (talk) 09:32, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Association for Social Anthropology in Oceania (ASAO)


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Draft: Association for Social Anthropology in Oceania (ASAO)
Now I'm confused too. I am getting a message that you have sent me an email stating that you are confused about the article that you created. However, I haven't received the email. I assume that is Association for Social Anthropology in Oceania (ASAO). It appears that you created that article in draft space in September as Draft: Association for Social Anthropology in Oceania (ASAO). It contained material that was copyrighted by ASAO, and had to be deleted on grounds of copyright violation. You then created it in article space, and I tagged it for speedy deletion as not providing evidence of corporate notability and as advertising (for the organization). If you have questions about notability or about advertising (which is not permitted), you may ask at the Teahouse. Please do not edit an article on yourself except in special circumstances, because you have a conflict of interest. Instead, request that someone else edit the article. Maybe I haven't answered your questions. Do you have any more questions? Robert McClenon (talk) 20:58, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

The email was in my spam folder. The draft still exists. You say that none of the information on the web site is copyrighted, but almost everything on a web site is copyrighted. Wikipedia cannot use information that is on a web site unless the publishing party unconditionally releases rights, not only for use in Wikipedia, but for use by all in the world. Also, there is still language in the draft that we consider promotional, such as "The organization prides itself on a welcoming atmosphere". Robert McClenon (talk) 20:58, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

As an officer of the organization, you have a conflict of interest. Also, in order to get the draft approved, references will be needed of independent (third-party) coverage of the organization. Robert McClenon (talk) 20:58, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, Robert. This makes sense. I add that I was absolutely not trying to advertise the organization--just to give it a page since it is a fairly well-known scholarly organization, which I was then going to alert other members so they could add additional information, such as it history, etc. But given your own information, I shall pass on it. Thanks for your help. Eksilverman (talk) 21:28, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

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Rhodes Scholarship edits
Hello I couldn't help but notice you rolled back some of my edits on the Rhodes Scholarship page, switching the emphasis back to the early history of the Scholarship. I understand that you want to document the original motivation for the bequest but your edit leaves out other motivations like fostering the special relationship between Britain and the Newly independent USA. Also your edits don't go into any detail about how the Scholarship has evolved over the years. It seems that most of what you have written would be better suited to the Rhodes Scholarship section on Cecil Rhodes' Bio page? Could we perhaps balance the history so it is 50% about the early days and 50% about the present day, with more emphasis on The Scholarship itself and less emphasis on its founder. Also may I ask you what your overall vision for the page is? What version of the Scholarship's history are you trying to put forward? Best regards, Pug of the day (talk) 21:15, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

Hi, See my comments in the talk page of the scholarship....I was just trying to add more detail and depth to the early history of the scholarship, but agree with you that it would be helpful to enlarge on the history of the program in its various decades/eras. My vision for the page is simply to enlarge on the details, especially in regard to its history. Happy to continue the discussion and the draft additional sections that cover subsequent years. --Eksilverman (talk) 12:18, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

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Rhodes Scholarship edit, why??
I'd like to point out that your revert of my edit is the exact opposite of what you stated in your Edit Summary. Why? 18:05, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
 * For example, you stated "Not sure that the phrase "leftist delusions" adds anything factual to the discussion, too". Insinuating that "leftist delusions should not have been removed, yet you reverted my removal of it?  18:07, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
 * If I understand correct, I deleted your deletion of the "leftist delusions" comment. If so, that was an error on my part! Not sure how that happened, as my intention in the edit was to do likewise, that is, to delete that very same phrase. So, I think we are in agreement. Forgive my error.

The reason why I removed the specific examples you had added to some of the college articles...
...is because those are just one of many things it exempts them from, and I feel like you are trying to imply that these institutions are specifically trying to avoid those regulations whereas the founding of at least some of the institutions refusing government money predate the enactment of these regulations; for example, Yeshiva Toras Chaim opened in 1967, whereas Title IX didn't exist until 1972. It just seems to me it's simpler to state that they refuse government funding and doing so excludes them from certain regulations tied to government funding rather than to give a partial list of the things they avoid by refusing government funding. It also seems like a certain fringe wants to paint these institutions as rape havens compared to places that do accept federal funds, yet our article on campus sexual assault paints a different story (also, my own experience with a public school doing absolutely nothing about a sexual assault against me in direct violation of Title IX paints a different story, not that you can really use that in an article, but still...). PCHS-NJROTC (Messages)Have a blessed day. 01:21, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

I see your point, @PCHS-NJROTC (and forgive me for not having responded sooner). I was highlighting the fact that, in today's higher education climate, one of the key issues confronting colleges everywhere is sexual misconduct. Thus, to shun federal dollars, whatever the original reason, is perhaps most directly relevant in today's world to this particular issue. Off-hand, do you know what other regulations a college avoids when it shuns federal funds - significant regulations, that is - other than the one's I listed? Cadbury333 (talk) 12:26, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

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Discussion on May 10, 2019 Edit
Hi there User:Cadbury333:

I wanted to discuss with you an edit you made to the Jeffrey Sachs page last May about his Arnhold Institute fellowship. I know you participated briefly in my conversation with User:Ibadibam earlier this month on that page. Given that the original post used a lawsuit as the citation, and lawsuit filings aren't considered acceptable sources on Wikipedia, would you consider deleting the full second sentence under Arnhold/Mount Sinai? (This is now under a new heading 'Academic appointments'.) I realize that we now have a Vice article as a source. However, the few sentences mentioned there are simply repeating what is alleged in the lawsuit. Also, Vice Media is coded as a 'No consensus' (marginally reliable) source on Wikipedia's list Reliable sources/Perennial sources. I can find no other source to support this statement.

If you would consider this edit, I would be very grateful. It is the one item Dr. Sachs has said is not true. Given that the reliability of the sources is questionable, I would like to be able to achieve this change. Thanks much for your time and consideration. LeepKendall (talk) 00:55, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

Globe and Mail reference
Cadbury333 posted a reference to what is said to possibly be the first ever use of the term sexual harassment in print in Sexual_harassment. The reference is said to be an article by Hugh Gardner in the Globe and Mail from 18 March 1972. In attempting to verify the content of this article, I've been unable to find it. A web search on "..and every prisoner an unprintable word" produces only links to this Wikipedia article. The source is said to be ProQuest Historical Newspapers digital archive. I do have access to that archive as a Wikipedia editor, but searching that archive I was unable to find the Gardner article. Can someone update the reference to provide more information as to how to access it? Dash77 (talk) 17:12, 9 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi. I just checked my online database access for this item, but the database today doesn't go that far back for this particular newspaper. So, I have requested a scan of the article...kindly stay tuned... Cadbury333 (talk) 18:10, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I finally received a copy of the Globe and Male article. It was a review by Hugh Gamer of the book, Maximum Security: Letters from Prison, edited by Eve Pell (1972). The review contains this paragraph (bold my own): "Among the criminal acts perpetrated against long-term California inmates is the theft of destruction by cell-searching guards of a prisoner's appeal to a higher court, the withholding of mail, the removal of a man from one penitentiary to another where his wife cannot afford to visit him, the sexual harassment of a female visitor by a guard who promises better privileges for her man in exchange for her favors, the tearing up or scribbling of obscenities on photographs of wife and children, the deliberate breaking or confiscation of the contents of a gift package."
 * I will see if I can determine if the phrase was used in the book itself. Cadbury333 (talk) 18:57, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
 * @Dash77 I just searched for the phrase in the actual book via the Internet Archive, and it does not appear. So, we know that "sexual harassment" was used in the Globe and Mail article from March 1972...but I would think there are other sources, or that it was at least used in conversation prior to that publication. If you can dig up earlier sources, please do! Cadbury333 (talk) 19:02, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

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