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Caelo2023, good luck, and have fun. User:Hoary (talk) 00:55, 24 August 2022 (UTC) Hoary (talk) 00:47, 24 August 2022 (UTC)

architect and Architect
Hello: only after doing some minor work on Draft:Jacob Owen (architect) did I notice the existence of Draft:Jacob Owen (Architect). I haven't read the latter, but it's newer and, at a glance, superior.

If the latter is preferable, it will have to be retitled as the former. I can do that, but before doing so I have to make way for it by deleting the former. Perhaps you'd like to look at the edits I made to the "(architect)" draft, and, where they could be applicable and you agree with them, make them to the "(Architect)" draft. When you've done that, say so here, and I'll do the necessary shunting around. -- Hoary (talk) 00:55, 24 August 2022 (UTC)

Or of course you could work on the "(architect)" draft so that it incorporates the improvements you've made to the "(Architect)" draft. Just work on one or the other and say which one is superfluous. -- Hoary (talk) 01:55, 24 August 2022 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:Jacob Owen (architect) has a new comment
 I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Jacob Owen (architect). Thanks! Hoary (talk) 01:58, 24 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Caelo2023 (talk) 02:12, 24 August 2022 (UTC) Hi thank you for this note. In my confusion working in sandbox for the first time, I thought the earlier version Draft:Jacob Owen (architect) had been lost and so started the newer Draft:Jacob Owen (Architect) version. This is more up-to-date and fixes some problems with the earlier draft.
 * So, in response, yes the latter is preferable, thanks, and the former can be deleted. I have looked over your amendments to the older Draft:Jacob Owen (architect) and these look applicable to the latter “(Architect)” draft too. Shunting around appreciated. Caelo2023 (talk) 02:12, 24 August 2022 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:Jacob Owen (Architect) has a new comment
 I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Jacob Owen (Architect). Thanks! Hoary (talk) 03:52, 24 August 2022 (UTC)


 * For the clarity of those reviewing this thread, the up-to-date version Draft:Jacob Owen (Architect) supersedes the older version Draft:Jacob Owen (architect). Caelo2023 (talk) 06:46, 24 August 2022 (UTC)


 * And for some, shall we say, superclarity: What was Draft:Jacob Owen (Architect) has now been tweaked and renamed Draft:Jacob Owen (architect). -- Hoary (talk) 08:44, 24 August 2022 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Jacob Owen (architect) has been accepted
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Thanks again, and happy editing! Hoary (talk) 10:45, 24 August 2022 (UTC)


 * The above is just boilerplate, of course. Still, it's true. And now, this is a human writing. Well done with the article Jacob Owen (no "disambiguation" was necessary, as there's no article on any other Jacob Owen): it's unusually well done for something new. However, it does leave me wondering: After her prodigious labours, did his wife survive into old age? -- Hoary (talk) 11:02, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
 * good question - the bios of a lot of these old architects leaves out any mention of women's lives/ contributions. There's more in Fred O'Dwyer's work so I'll see if anything more can be dredged up to drag it into the 21st century. Caelo2023 (talk) 03:48, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

August 2022
Hello, I'm JalenFolf. I wanted to let you know that I reverted one of your recent contributions—specifically this edit to Jacob Owen—because it did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Teahouse or the Help desk. Thanks. Jalen Folf  (talk)  04:46, 27 August 2022 (UTC)


 * How did it "not appear constructive", ? (Although I would have formatted it differently, it looks constructive to me.) -- Hoary (talk) 22:40, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, I would be interested in your definition of constructive too, User:JalenFolf Caelo2023 (talk) 03:42, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Please forgive me if there was any error in my rollback. Huggle only allows me to look at one revision at a time, so it only showed me the specific linked edit above rather than the whole edit, the former of which made me misidentify the edit as vandalism, having seen common "hit enter in the middle of a paragraph"-type vandalism before. My sincerest apologies for any inconvenience. Feel free to revert and continue, but please consider using Page Preview whenever possible. Thanks. Jalen Folf   (talk)  03:49, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Thomas Lloyd (naval architect) (September 2)
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Star  Mississippi  02:33, 2 September 2022 (UTC)


 * I can't see the missing closing tags that you are referring to in the submission. I have made a few changes to the citations in any case and will resubmit. Caelo2023 (talk) 02:57, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Have a look at the ones I just combined, and see where else you can do these. I'll leave review for someone else, but I'm concerned about the sourcing Star   Mississippi  03:19, 2 September 2022 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Thomas Lloyd (naval architect) has been accepted
 Thomas Lloyd (naval architect), which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

Congratulations, and thank you for helping expand the scope of Wikipedia! We hope you will continue making quality contributions.

The article has been assessed as C-Class, which is recorded on its talk page. This is a great rating for a new article, and places it among the top of accepted submissions — kudos to you! You may like to take a look at the grading scheme to see how you can improve the article.

Since you have made at least 10 edits over more than four days, you can now create articles yourself without posting a request. However, you may continue submitting work to Articles for creation if you prefer.

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Thanks again, and happy editing! Dan arndt (talk) 05:53, 2 September 2022 (UTC)

Monmouth School for Boys
Hi, thanks for adding a few alumni to the above. Can I ask two favours. When adding a cite, can you format it, so that it’s not a bare url. And can you ensure that each new entry does have a cite - Leonard Clark currently doesn’t. The problem with Alumni sections is similar to that of Popular culture sections - they are a magnet for uncited/non-notable additions. Many thanks. KJP1 (talk) 13:17, 18 September 2022 (UTC)


 * I've added a citation for Clark. I can't see any particularly consistent citation style so I have left it as a bare URL. The existing Wikipedia entry for Clark should be sufficient evidence of notability. Caelo2023 (talk) 22:16, 18 September 2022 (UTC)

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