User talk:Caknuck/Archive 2

Articles for deletion/List of taco fillings
Please note that I have added List of burrito fillings to this AFD (as suggested by one of the voters); you may wish to add a comment or reconsider your vote. Brianyoumans 23:26, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
 * That was my suggestion, so it's doubtful I'll raise an objection. Caknuck 04:09, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

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Thanks
Thanks for helping me out on my Ernest Emerson article, particularly with arranging the categories at the bottom as well as my stray typos! Mike Searson 07:53, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks again for reviewing the article. I made the changes you reccomended and agree that they make it better to the reader! Mike Searson 21:58, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks again for your vote for Featured article Status! Mike Searson 01:50, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Hey You!
nothing i have created is useless nonsense why are you gonna be a dick. i mean the maura hogan thing you have a point but nothing on the mike chabmerlinb page is false the exploration of space and time is a club wich he created and he draws crazy faces. I Challenge you to a duel of some sort! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Whereiswarren (talk • contribs)

Thank you!
Hello, thanks for your peer review of 2005 Texas Longhorn football team. Your suggestions have led to many improvements to the article. I believe I have now addressed or spoken to all of your points. I have put more detail at WikiProject College football/Peer review/2005 Texas Longhorn football team.

I have also addressed most of the points made by the other peer reviewers. The two I am still working on is to expand some of the game sumary sections (I'm working on that now) and to proof-read all the references for consistent format. I am saving this task for the very end since more references are being added as I go.

If you have any other suggestions for the article, please let me know. Best, Johntex\talk 09:02, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

RfA thanks
Thank you for supporting my RfA. It was (47/0/0) upon closure and now phase I is complete. I think the tools will aid both me and the encyclopedia. Feel free to leave me a message on my talk page, or if you think I'm misbehaving I'm always open to recall. Thanks, James086 Talk  13:28, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Wrong summary
Your Edit Summary for 00:55, February 26, 2007 (RV to revision 110971076 dated 19:47, 25 February 2007 by Corpx (removing unnecessary external link)) claims you reverted an edit to remove an external link. However, when I checked the diff, your changes involved categories -- not external links. I had just (4 minutes earlier) reverted a YouTube link. Could that be what you where thinking of? Will (Talk - contribs) 07:09, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Will, see your talk page for my response. Caknuck 07:19, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

No bot. I used popups by Lupin. I can override the summary with an option I chose.

As for the complex edit, you probably should have made the revert a separate edit. You might have gotten to it before I could. However, the important thing is that your second edit would have a summary like "Adjusted default sort of categories". Will (Talk - contribs) 07:28, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Will do. Thanks for the advice. Caknuck 07:31, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Hi from Vishal1976 ( now blocked by vandalist ) and thanks for removing vandalism on article at Khandoba
Hi brother i am Vishal Prakash Dudhane -- Vishal1976 from Pune city, India. I have contributed a lot text and images to Maratha related articles sucah as Maratha clan system, Khandoba , Jyotiba , Paithani , Bhavani etc under the user name Vishal1976. But some jelous, vandalist , anti Maratha forces are trying to destroy my work and they gotta blocked me. All my work was very good, fundamental , true and new to western world. I admit i have hot temper and my cunning foes, enimies used it as wepon against me. You can check at Yahoo serch engine that how after my desertion the rating by yahoo for this articles have fallen considerable and Wikipedia had big loss. If this will go long we all good people will have sever setback and loss. So if you want to help me you may unblocked me and protect my articles and punish this vandalist entites. I have very good plans in my mind for Wikipedia and we can do good.-- with best regards. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 61.17.193.80 (talk) 15:08, 28 February 2007 (UTC).

Your recent edit to Casey Donovan (singer)
(diff) was reverted by an automated bot that attempts to recognize and repair vandalism to Wikipedia articles. If the bot reverted a legitimate edit, please accept my humble creator's apologies – if you bring it to the attention of the bot's owner, we may be able to improve its behavior. Click here for frequently asked questions about the bot and this warning. // AntiVandalBot 05:19, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Revert gone awry due to an edit conflict. Caknuck 05:20, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Thank You!
Hi! Thanks for reverting my userpage!Re-evolution 17:52, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Another Thank you!
You must get this a lot, but thank you for reverting the vandalism to my user page. - cgilbert(talk 17:48, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

(from 71.251.69.184)
WIKIPEDIA THIS IS A BAD WEBSITE FOR PEOPLE LOOKING IT UP FOR SCHOOL THE NEWS SAID THAT THIS WEBSITE IS A BAD FOR CHILDREN SO IT WOULD BE THE SMART THAT KIDS CAN LEARN REAL THINGS FOR LEARNING HOW TO STUDY YOU SHOULD STOP EDITING SO THEN THE KIDS LEARN REAL THINGS BY EXPERTS SO THEN YOU GUYS CAN MAKE PROGRESS.

THANK YOU:) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.251.69.184 (talk) 15:21, 23 March 2007 (UTC).


 * Eating glass is bad for kids, too. Much worse than WP. What's your point? Caknuck 15:39, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Re:Tā moko
The mistake was made by User:Af648 here. &mdash; O cat ecir  Talk  06:23, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
 * (Responded on Ocatecir's talk page. Caknuck 06:25, 26 March 2007 (UTC))
 * Ahh, thanks for the heads up. Happy editing (and vandal fighting). &mdash; O cat ecir  Talk  06:27, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Whats wrong with GBH?
Why you keep deleting gooranatar BananaHammock Article? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Joe4440 (talk • contribs) 21:28, 28 March 2007 (UTC).
 * (Responded on Joe4440's talk page.) Caknuck 21:42, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Re: Cleveland, Ohio
Please do not add unhelpful and unconstructive information to Wikipedia. Your edits appear to be vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. A link to the edit I have reverted can be found here: link. If you believe this edit should not have been reverted, please contact me. Philippe 06:16, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
 * (Inaccurate warning, responded on Philippe's talk page.) Caknuck 21:42, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Well crap, I'm sorry. Not sure how that happened.  I'm happy to remove the warning from here, since it's so clearly wrong, if you'd like.  Philippe 15:36, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
 * (Replied on Philippe's talk page.) Caknuck 15:58, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Notability (people)
Hi, seeing you have been involved in previous Afd debates I invite you to contribute to this discussion to clarify certain issues about football player notability. I think clearer guidelines are needed to avoid repeated inappropriate nominations for deletion and time consuming discussions. Cheers! StephP 17:27, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Vote!
Following your contribution to the discussion on football player notability you might be interested in voting on this. Rgds, StephP 10:28, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

(from 24.21.212.208)
WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK YOU ARE? - WIKI IS FOR ALL - YOU ARE NOT THE WIKI COP - LEAVE ME ALONE - THIS IS NOT THE DDR!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.21.212.208 (talk • contribs)
 * WP is for all, providing they adhere to the policies in place. In your case, the policy at question seems to be WP:NPOV. Let me know if you have any questions regarding it.

YOU SUCK GORDO!!
SCREW YOU GORDO!! WHAT ARE YOU GONNA SEND THE BILL O'REILLY POLICE AFTER ME? GO BACK TO CANADA YOU WANNABE RENT-A-WEB-COP! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.21.212.208 (talk) 06:51, 1 April 2007 (UTC).
 * (Referred to WP:AIV.) Caknuck 06:54, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

I know...
I am sorry, I'm just venting. It is really upsetting that the one night all the good anime comes on is the one night Adult Swim always puts its crappy comedy shows on. I for one am sick of it. But Wikipedia isn't a soapbox, and I have to respect that. 75.6.216.157 07:09, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
 * (Replied on 75.6.216.157's talk page.) Caknuck 07:16, 1 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I put my few words on the AS talk page, with a slightly editted angle. Thanks for the understanding (and for the reprimand). 75.6.216.157 07:38, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
 * (Replied on 75.6.216.157's talk page.) Caknuck 07:47, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Thank You
Just wanted to thank you for reverting vandalism on my user page -- Will Mak  050389  01:18, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Marco Mann
Please read the wiki:bio evidence I posted on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Marco_Mann that demonstrates the notability of Marco Mann, and please reconsider your vote. Jumpster 11:20, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I still don't see anything there that conclusively demonstrates this guy's notability. Running a Yahoo Group doesn't do anything to assert notability. Caknuck 14:17, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

TeckWiz's RFA
Hey Caknuck. Thanks for supporting my uns uccessful RFA this week under my old name, TeckWiz. I'm now known simply as User:R. I hope to keep helping and improving Wikipedia alongside you. -- TeckWiz is now R Parlate Contribs@(Lets go Yankees!) 21:27, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
I noticed that you removed the word "is a big fag" from my profile from some random detrimental person. Thanks. Goldy496 05:26, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

My RfA


Hello, thank you for supporting my RfA! Also, please wish a Happy Birthday to Her Majesty the Queen. Vivat Regina!

Seeking community input re standardizing baseball roster pages
Hi ... I'm leaving you this note because you recently made edits to one of the Major League Baseball roster pages. I've made a proposal for standardizing the format, structure and content of these pages here and would appreciate your input so that we may reach a consensus. Thanks. --Sanfranman59 06:07, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

lmao ... thanks for the belly laugh with the whip-it reference! --Sanfranman59 03:19, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
I whole-heartedly agree with your solution to the transclusion problem with the MLB rosters page. Thanks for your efforts. --Sanfranman59 02:48, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

DAB repairs
Hello, Per WP:DPL, can you please not edit archived talk page history? Thanks. --After Midnight 0001 03:22, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
 * (Responded on After Midnight's talk page.) Caknuck 03:40, 6 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Did you look at WP:DPL? It clearly says that links should be cleaned up in the main namespace, but that there is no need to do so in the talk space.  The link in the archive is fine and I will not be changing it. --After Midnight 0001 03:46, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
 * (Responded on After Midnight's talk page.) Caknuck 03:55, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I do not see my comment above as incivil, but am sorry if you found it as such. No offence was intended.  I did say "sorry, no" in my edit summary, which I would not have done had I been trying to be terse with you.  --After Midnight 0001 04:06, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
 * (Responded on After Midnight's talk page.) Caknuck 04:09, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Agreed, thanks and best regards. --After Midnight 0001 04:19, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Sepia Mutiny
Thanks for the heads up about the Sepia Mutiny article. Still getting used to being wiki-courteous. Chantoke 08:27, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
 * (Responded on Chantoke's talk page.) Caknuck 15:42, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Baseball player article naming conventions?
Do you know where things stand with the naming conventions? Is there anything I can do to help finalize this? I was going to start doing page redirects, but I don't want to do so until guidelines have been posted on the project page. --Sanfranman59 20:40, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
 * (Responded on Sanfranman59's talk page.) Caknuck 01:59, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism
How is editing my own user page to remove comments by other users vandalism? Do not touch my talk page in the future. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.118.129.76 (talk • contribs)
 * (Responded on anon user's talk page.) Caknuck 02:37, 21 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Just out of curiosity... how many of those warnings are from people with the actual power to block a user from editing or ban them from editing all together? Oh, that's right, none. I have supported my side in the argument and, if need be, could also go on a "recruiting effort" to get people commenting in my favor. There is no vandalism of the article itself (I am removing a ridiculous and unnecessary section) and I am clearly not vandalizing my own talk page by removing garbage written by other users.
 * (Responded on anon user's talk page.) Caknuck 03:04, 21 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Feel free to issue warnings to your heart's content, just be aware that I won't adhere to one unless decreed by an administrator. The section is now protected so you can rest assured that there will be far more inputs on the article's discussion page supporting my point of view in order to remove the ridiculous section once and for all.
 * (Responded on anon user's talk page.) Caknuck 03:13, 21 May 2007 (UTC)


 * fyi, now that 69.118.129.76 has been blocked from editing the List of people from Ridgefield, Connecticut page, he/she is now harassing me and other editors. unbelievable. —BaseballDetective 03:47, 21 May 2007 (UTC)


 * (Responded on BaseballDetective's talk page.) Caknuck 05:06, 21 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I appreciate your hospitality and willingness to maintain an unbiased position regarding the Ridgefield/Trolling issue. Cheers! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.118.129.76 (talk • contribs)

Re: List of people from Ridgefield, Connecticut
Hi Caknuck,

I notice you made a contribution to the List of people from Ridgefield, Connecticut page. I've gotten into a discussion with #69 over the substance of my disagreement with him. He's intransigent, and I'd like to get on record that we have a consensus to keep that section of the List of people from Ridgefield, Connecticut list. If, in fact, we have a consensus. I summarized my long argument at the bottom of the page and asked for comments. Would you please look over at least the summary (a few paragraphs) at the bottom of Talk:List of people from Ridgefield, Connecticut and give your opinion (whether in support of keeping or not). Much appreciated, Noroton 22:35, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Hey
Samsamsamnnn got to your page, cleaned it for ya --Whsitchy 05:00, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
 * (Responded on User:Whstchy's talk page.) Caknuck 05:03, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'm surprised he hasn't gone after me yet. --Whsitchy 05:05, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Tag Removal
Hi there, I noticed you removed many of the WP:SPEEDY template tags that I posted to a number of pages. I would ask you to consider leaving them in place. While I understand the desire to have as many pages as possible, these pages do not seem to meet the criteria laid out in WP:STUB. A person's notability is not explained by simply listing a few numbers and the teams he/she played for. The user who created those pages, does so with amazing speed, often when pages are requested. While I appreciate this very much, providing filler information and removing the articles from that list, does a disservice to the goal of the list. People who are likely to create good articles for that content are no longer aware that content is needed on those articles. Thanks for your time, I will mark your page for watching so that we can continue the discussion here if you want to continue to talk. // Tecmobowl 01:06, 30 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I removed the tags for 'several reasons.
 * Using CSD A1 is an incorrect format for requesting deletion. Per WP:CSD, "Limited content is not in itself a reason to delete if there is enough context for the article to qualify as a valid stub.".
 * I contend your interpretation of WP:STUB in these cases. The historical record is rich with information on the subjects of these articles, including newspaper articles, baseball cards, team yearbooks, media guides, player biographies, etc... The whole purpose of creating a stub is to provide a foundation on which other editors may expand. I see no problem with the articles being stubs pending this expansion.
 * Per WP:BIO, "Competitors who have played in a fully professional league..." are considered to be adequately notable for inclusion in Wikipedia. Stating so in an article is sufficient assertion of notability for article creation.
 * You're member of the Wikiproject task force on baseball players. Wouldn't it be prudent to bring a mass deletion of player articles to the task force to generate consensus?
 * I think that you are not acting in the best interest of Wikipedia or the task force, and I will contest any article you submit for deletion with the reasoning you explained above. Continuing to tag these articles using bogus CSD criteria will get this matter swiftly submitted for mediation. Caknuck 01:22, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I saw your comments regarding good faith. It is clear to me that when you make a statement like that, based on my openness to discussion, you are not acting in good faith.  I will continue this discussion with the creator of the articles, as he is clearly more understanding of what is going on.  As a final note, I am well aware of the fact that a person who plays professional baseball is deemed noteworthy.  Being noteworthy however, does not lower the bar for viable content.  Think of it this way, what if the Babe Ruth article was only as long as the articles we are discussing here. //Tecmobowl 01:35, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm well aware of the necessity of assuming good faith, but I fiind it hard to do so when you nominate the articles for deletion a) without consulting the rest of the task force, b) using (in a very liberally interpreted manner) CSD instead of AfD, which it the accepted norm for mass deletions and c) target articles created by one specific user without discussion beforehand. Tell me how any of this implies good faith? Caknuck 01:42, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't see the benefit of continuing this conversation with you beyond this post. Please review WP:3P and you will see that WP:BOLD is right up on the top.  If i felt there was a need to discuss this at all, I would have initiated the conversation.  I see this as pretty cut and dry.  Lastly, the user removed these articles from Requested_articles/sports (and understandably so).  I simply went in and tagged the related articles.  Be well and best of luck in the future. // Tecmobowl 01:52, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, the issue is not cut and dry. While it is important to be bold, it shouldn't be done solely to make a point. I'm all for reasonable discussion of deletions (please see my history of participation at the XfDs for my record there). Assuming good faith here, I would strongly recommend that you are up to date on deletion procedure prior to nominating articles like these in the future, lest someone else think that you weren't acting with the best of intentions. If you have questions about deletion procedure, feel free to ask me. Cheers, Caknuck 02:03, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Tecmobowl, if one of your reasons to delete these is that you're afraid no one will come along and improve on them, this can be easily corrected. If the baseball project has a list of articles that need to be expanded, I can add links to these articles on that list.  That way, all members can simply clink on a link and improve any article and all the articles would be in a central location.  Patken4 01:30, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the note, i'll copy this to your page and continue the discussion there. //Tecmobowl 01:35, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Baseball article creation
Thanks for the message! I will still create player articles. It's just that yesterday I went out to see my local 9 play, so I didn't have time to create articles. I'd like to start an article on all players with at least 1,000 hits (I think there are 12 or so left) and then start those that played in at least one all-star game (about 30 or so). Once again, thanks for the support! Patken4 21:27, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Standard Equipments Of Carrom
You had deleted my three articles that these are copyrighted. i want to add that Laws of carrom are only copyrighted to International Carrom federation not with any websites. The source was pscamohali.googlepages.com not carrom.org. You are not supposed to write anthing like this without knowing about particular game. I am a carrom player and playing since above 10 years but i have never heard of copyright with laws if you dont want to keep the article simply ask me i am not mad to throw my contributions or my works here. WHO IS THE ADMINISTRATOR????......user:hpt_lucky 16:26, 16 June 2007
 * (Responded on hpt_lucky's talk page.) Caknuck 14:06, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Who told You
Who told you that ICF has not given permission to reprint the laws, Well ICF became happy when they find the laws given by them are famous in net world. I am administrator od PSCA so i know wat is copyright and you can watch that laws are reprinted in many sites bonduu.

Ok tell me if i write the laws again in my wordings with proper grammer will u accept it.I want to add one thing more that it is difficult to create an article on WIKIPEDIA HUH????user:hpt_lucky 16:26, 16 June 2007
 * (Responded on hpt_lucky's talk page.) Caknuck 19:43, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Thankyou
Thank you very much Mr. cak u solved the problem, it feels immense pleasure that guys like you are working for wikipedia. I am sorry for previous work. Now i will make an overview of laws not copy the whole. Thank u for enlighten..........user:hpt_lucky 15:26, 17 June 2007
 * (Responded on hpt_lucky's talk page.) Caknuck 19:38, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Template:Infobox MLB player
There is a Help Desk post regarding Template:Infobox MLB player that would benefit from your expertise on Template:Infobox MLB player. Thanks! -- Jreferee (Talk) 23:10, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
 * (Responded on Jreferee's talk page.) Caknuck 00:04, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for help with the photo. It is up for featured picture —Preceding unsigned comment added by TonyTheTiger (talk • contribs)

List of street gangs
Thank you for catching the additional acts of vandalism that I missed on this article. Trusilver 04:49, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Glad to be of service. Cheers, Caknuck 04:52, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Soxrock
I understand your concern. I do agree with you, also. However, there isn't anything that can be done. Editcountitis isn't an official policy. If Soxrock wants to do everything in as many edits as he wants, then he's free to do that. Nothing can be done to prevent him from doing it. The only thing that we can do is try to persuade him to stop. But aside from that, he can do that if he wants and can't be blocked or anything. Despite the problems that he's caused other editors, as he is helping Wikipedia and improving articles, he can do this unfortunately. I don't agree with him doing this, but he legally can. Do you understand what I'm saying? What he is doing isn't illegal, so he can't get into any trouble for doing it, no matter what. All his edits are greatly contributing. While people might not agree with how he's doing it, he still is doing it and can't get into any sort of trouble for it. The only thing that anybody can do is persuade him to stop and make it in only one edit. But he doesn't have to oblige by that or consider their request if he doesn't want to. -- Ksy92003  (talk) 18:22, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
 * (Responded on Ksy92003's talk page.) Caknuck 19:09, 20 June 2007 (UTC)


 * But there isn't even really dispute. I'm not sure if WP:3O can do anything at all.  But if you're willing to try, then more power to you.  Good luck.  -- Ksy92003  (talk) 19:49, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

You know what? Go to WP:3O. I have given him suggestions, which he completely ignored. I asked him to stop a couple more times today and yesterday. He completely ignored me again. Please go to WP:3O as soon as possible so we can fix this. Some action needs to be taken because Soxrock completely refuses to listen to reason. He must be stopped somehow. You know that you have my support in this matter, and I know another user, Aviper2k7, has said the following to Soxrock:

I'm removing this because you don't mark edits as minor and you edit the same thing 100 times in a row.

[Y]our motives for clogging up the servers and editing every three seconds is to parade around your high edit count.

Something must be done about the situation. Aviper2k7 won't return from Valparaiso University until tomorrow, but I know based on those quotes he has the same opinion as this on the matter. Please, if you may, go to WP:3O. -- Ksy92003  (talk)  22:40, 22 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Update I have referred the matter to Wikiquette Alerts. Caknuck 03:40, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

WP:AFC
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Hdt83 (talk • contribs)

Doric
Aye, aye, Doddie. That wis faist. A'd juist aboot feenished it an nae mair fan ye addit the new link. Ye're an eident chiel an nae mistak! Cheers -- Derek Ross | Talk 19:58, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Problem With Article
Mr. Caknuck when i visit article Mangal Pandey: The Rising....My browser automatically shuts down when i scroll up or down wat is the problem is wikipedia virid. Or anybuddy is hacking ma system through wikipedia. Please sort out my problem....user:hpt_lucky

In vain
Well Sir i have cleared all cookies/cache. I have used Opera, Mozilla, IE6.0, Sea Monkey & other browsers(all new versions) on Win XP SP2, i am facing the same problem i.e Browsers shut downs. Other artices are working properly.

There are some websites like answers.com or info.com which take or display data from wikipedia there also same problem, i m facing about Mangal Pandey: The Rising. Please sort it out i want to read the whole article. I cant even acess a single word of it. Please Sir ....user:hpt_lucky

Renamed article you manually added to bot-list, don't know if bot-list needs changed.
Moved Saxifraga cotyledon to Chondrosea cotyledon. KP Botany 05:49, 30 June 2007 (UTC)