User talk:Calthinus/Archive 3

Nashi (youth movement)
On of your edits of 9 August has created an error. The reference seems to be a little garbled. Maybe you can fix it. Thanks. 24.34.148.49 (talk) 04:37, 19 August 2010 (UTC)


 * ...eh, which one? I don't see it yet. --Yalens (talk) 23:56, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of LGBT rights in the Chuvash Republic


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Van cat - LOTTIN DE LA VALLE
I will be thankful, if you help me arrange in good English and insert into the text the text of the letter of Lottin de La Valle, published at Gallica Consultation : Bulletin de la Société nationale d'acclimatation ... Also I published the links to the corresponding pages. Please see the discussion page of Turkish Van article. Thanks in advance, -- Zara-arush (talk) 21:19, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Hi, it was too late, when I found the original leeter in Galica, and I was not only excited (remember, how they objected against Armenian plato, and that the letter is fancied by cat fanciers, but also I was rather sleepy. So I did not express correctly, what kind of help I asked you about. I have the translation of it, and I have published the letter already in my cat fancy article about Russian cats' origin in a Russian cat fancy magazine. But it was the translation of Mrs Hartwell's extract published on-line and it was her word that this letter existed. Now I found it in Gallica. There are few minor differences and we have the officially published complete text of the letter. So, it will be interesting, how you may translate the same text, if I did not catch anything or interpreted it in my - Armenian, way. I will give you the link to Mrs Hartwell'e site to compare. Now we have a good official source to prove several things, depending on how we may interprete the facts in the letter and correspond to all the WP rules. So, we have the factual existing letter and we have Mrs Hartwell's article about the cats, as well as my articles, published in Russia. + My Armenian language article, published in Yerevan last spring. I hope, the community will not consider that it is an original research without AS. Now we should write in a draft, what we want to add in the article. Let's decide, where to write this draft. I was busy with Nizami and Persian poetry articles in Russian WP. I have done now a large portion of these 2 article, and may have a little break for my dear Van cats. Thank you for your assistance, -- Zara-arush (talk) 16:54, 24 September 2010 (UTC) Here is the translation of Mrs Hartwell:
 * A letter from M Lottin de la Val, President of the Imperial Acclimatation Society, to the President of the French Zoological Society in 1856 stated, "When you recently did me the honour of calling on me, you imparted the recently held view that the so called 'Angora' cat does not exist or could not exist except in the vicinity of ancient Ancyra. I hasten to dispel this illusion. I myself came upon specimens of that lovely feline species in the great Armenian plateau, at Erzerum, where the climate is greatly different from that of Angora. The species is very numerous at Mourch in Kurdistan, where it is the dominant variety. I also found it at Billis and in the pashalik of Bayazit.. The finest specimens, however, which I saw belonged to the Archbishop of Van, a town in the east of Kurdistan, on the frontier of Azerbaidjan. He had three of them, one pearl grey, one orange-hued with black and white flecks, and a third, which was completely white. Their fur was magnificent, though there was thought to be nothing to be surprised at in them, as such cats are common in Kurdistan. I also saw some at the residence of Khan Mahmoud, Prince of Hekiars, at Alpeit. I can not recall having seen any in Persia, though, had I thought that scientists might have been interested, I would have taken care to seek them out, busy as I was. But what will surprise you most of all is that despite the high temperatures prevailing, one should find Angora cats at Baghdad, though certainly these are not so fine as those to be found on the northern slopes of the medique and Taurus mountains, though whether the difference is due to the hot atmosphere or the hostility of the people of Baghdad, I cannot say. You will no doubt settle that point better than I could, all I can say is that the people of Baghdad are in constant warfare with their cats, maintaining, not without good reason, in my opinion, that they bring the plague, because of their fur coats and their habits."

at - http://www.messybeast.com/longhair-cats.htm in LONGHAIRED CATS - EARLY LONGHAIRED CATS: ANGORAS AND PERSIANS
 * Best wishes, -- Zara-arush (talk) 17:29, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
 * If it may help you http://www.zooprice.ru/articles/detail.php?ID=427410 - link to my article with translation to Russian of the extract.-- Zara-arush  (talk) 19:47, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I would like we enter this info in the article, and we need to decide which part of the letter. We have Sarah Hartwell article and the same letter is descibed in a French book on cats. The English translation I gave the link here is shorter than the letter, it ispossible to compare and add, what we decide is necessary. You may look at what I did with it in Russian article. There is also two portraits with Van cats of 19th c. and beg. of 20th c., they are beautiful, I dream to add them in the articles, but I am not sure about the licence, though I saw several paitings in English WP downloaded from these sites. At this moment I try to defend pagan goddes of fertility Anahit that azeris declared of prostitution Anais to the contrast of academic sources. I could imagine many things, but this one is above my fantasy. --Zara-arush (talk) 21:10, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Участник:Yalens/lol


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New section
You still think we shouldn't ask for semi-protection after this edit?--Marshal Bagramyan (talk) 17:40, 18 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Naw, actually I don't think banning the IP would be particularly productive here. Because as the consensus is currently on the talk page the stuff it added is in fact quite relevant; and while it acts (quite) obnoxious, it is not engaging in vandalism. I don't see anything wrong with the way things are going right now, except that the IP so far hasn't been cooperating completely. If once we agree on how to integrate the information onto the page and what sources to use, etc... if it tries to undermine the status quo then, after that, then maybe we could semi-protect it. But personally, I don't think it takes much effort to revert, as its only one guy right now (no matter how many computers he/she seems to use). --Yalens (talk) 19:01, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Van cat
Thanks for your help, this citation was deleted about a year ago from the main text, because the people wrote that this letter did not exist in nature. Now we all know that it is and more, it was published by the corresponding authority. I placed it ealrlier in Russian WP article, of course it is better to insert the main sentenses re that the cats were living in the house of the archbishop. The only church known in Van with archbishop was Armenian church, as much as I know. In any case, the cats were living at the houses of the Christians. And about the colors of the cats, and about the Armenian plato, as proving that it was the name of modern Eastern Anatolia adopted in European scientists. Too many things may be found in the letter, if you find other proves, please, write. I published the text, translation and links more than a month ago, and there were no replies, objections. So, I guess it shall be added to the text. Thanks for your help. I presented Russian language article for the nomination of Good article, and I guess English language article is worth also. I will write you, if I would like to add more to what you will write in the article, --Zara-arush (talk) 20:16, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Hi, what do you think, may the article on Van cat be nominated for a good article in English Wiki? Today I knew it was nominated in Russian Wiki,Zara-arush (talk) 19:19, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Try it on April 1st. Scribblescribblescribble (talk) 20:23, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Your contributed article, Hidden Nations, Enduring Crimes: The North Caucasus Between Past and Future conference


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Khojaly–Gadabay culture?
I have noticed you have made edits to several articles related to the early cultures of the Caucasus, including Kura-Araxes. Your imput here, in this article for deletion request, might be useful:. Have you heard of such an archeological term being used anywhere? Scribblescribblescribble (talk) 20:17, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Not correct
The people you refer to are recent comers in history. The Greeks sailed to the region via the Black Sea in the 5th–6th centuries BC and encountered the Aehi, Zygii and other local tribes. They were later replaced by the Abkhaz, Ubykh and Adyghe(Circassians) who lived here until 1864. You are very biased and change history to fit agenda which should not even be mentioned in that page as well. People like you are whats wrong with Wikipedia manipulate history and facts to fit an agenda. Also backed by the fact you do hawk over that page and contribute nothing to history of Circassians —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.38.207.14 (talk) 00:55, 18 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Your interpretation runs head-first against the mainstream interpretation of history. The Circassians have inhabited their homeland since the days of hte Maikop culture. Furthermore, I don't need IP editors who don't even know how to sign a post.--Yalens (talk) 15:18, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Let's talk
On the talk page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aram-van (talk • contribs) 16:37, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Census
Preliminary results should be available this April and probably won't be too detailed. The final results are expected in 2012. By the way, you can always check the 2010 Census official website to see if anything new is available. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); January 24, 2011; 00:13 (UTC)

Haplogroups
I think alphabetical listing is more appropriate considering that the listing includes fairly large percentage ranges and not single percentages. For example, Italians seem to range between 9% and 36%, I am assuming based on their geographic distribution within the country (or at least that is what the source suggests). Same for the Greeks and several other groups. One must either list all of the individual regions with approximate percentages or just do the given percentage ranges on an alphabetized list. Of one gets hold of credible data about haplogroups in these countries in general, then those percentages must be used. -- ComtesseDeMingrélie  01:18, 5 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Please also note that the listing which you claim to be arranged from high% to low % is not in fact based on that. The old listing was based neither on the highest base % nor the highest possible % of the range-- ComtesseDeMingrélie  01:30, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Chechens - languages in infobox
Hi Yalens, I believe the previous contributor was correct in adding Russian as a language spoken by the Chechen people. While it is far from being a majority language, even as a second language, it is still the language of a sizeable proportion of Chechens, both within and without Chechnya proper. If we take for example the article on the Scottish people we see in the infobox that they speak Scots, English and Gaelic, even though the vast majority of Scottish people speak only English. The same can be seen at the Irish people article where the languages listed includes English and Irish. Likewise, for the Chechen people article I believe Russian should be included. What we could do is write it as follows: Chechen, Russian, and others What do you think? Regards, --MacTire02 (talk) 18:31, 9 February 2011 (UTC)