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DYK for Claudio Strunz
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DYK nomination of 2013 Buenos Aires train crash
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68th Oscars
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I just wanted to gently let you know that I addressed your comments regarding Featured list candidates/68th Academy Awards/archive1.
 * --Birdienest81 (talk) 02:17, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

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61st Oscars
Hi, I was hoping if you can give me opinions and comments on Featured list candidates/61st Academy Awards/archive1 as you have done for my other Oscar ceremonies? I would like to receive feedback so I could make necessary improvements. I promise that this will be the FINAL Oscar ceremony list I promote this year (I have one more list left). I would be grateful for the help.
 * --Birdienest81 (talk) 17:20, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

novels set in the stalin era
surely Orwell believed he lived somehow in the stalin era. indeed that was part of what bothered him so much. when you say animal farm is not about the politics of the real world - that is untrue. indeed it is only about the politics of the real world at large. its not really about animals in a farm is it. I think the category should be put back. unless the category explicitly states it refers to only works set in the soviet union. Sayerslle (talk) 01:06, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Cemento
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A pie for you!

 * I'm glad to see that you have been unblocked. I would advise you to make a list of the topics that you want to work with and that someone may seem as historical or somewhat related to history, and make a request for clarification. All this issue would have been resolved a lot sooner, or not took place at all, if there was a formal clarification "sports are not considered part of history" available. That's what I did, current politics are not history but someone may see them as history, so I requested my own clarification. Have in mind that many users may not have a background in history and may fall in oversimplifications such as "if it mentions something historic, then it's a history article"; try to consider things from their perspective when preparing the list. Cambalachero (talk) 15:35, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Cemento
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DYK for Katja Alemann
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Re:Graduados
Great! I've got some portal work to do over the weekend, but once that's done I'll take a look if no one else has in the meanwhile. Miyagawa (talk) 18:04, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Clarification request
Hi Cambalachero. I filed a clarification request at Arbitration/Requests/Clarification and Amendment. Regards.-- MarshalN20 | T al k 18:23, 27 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Cambalachero, thanks for the enforcement request notification. I'm debating on whether to comment on it or not. It seems that the more I write on the matter, the greater the grudge becomes, and the more my statements get distorted.
 * Plus, I'm sure Sandstein and the others will take care of it regardless of what I comment. I mean, I also made a mistake when getting involved in War of the Pacific, and I still got blocked for it despite the matter had become stale after two weeks (and even after I had marked out my statements & disengaged).
 * Maybe I should just write that one line. I'll think about it.-- MarshalN20 | T al k 16:35, 29 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Remember that an interaction ban can be reduced to a basic premise: don't talk to or about the other party of the ban, period. There is an exception when a party reports that the other party has violated the ban (which I have just done), but that's basically it. Don't comment on the enforcement case unless the arbitrators have questions for you, and continue the clarification request as if the other party had not said anything at all. At least, that's how I understand the rules. Cambalachero (talk) 17:12, 29 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Okay. Thank you for the advice Cambalachero. My interpretations of the rules are always wrong, so I'll follow yours. [:o)}-- MarshalN20 | T al k 17:38, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

I'm surprised the clarification request has so many participants. It must have been something in the turkey.-- MarshalN20 | T al k 05:03, 2 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Just let it go. I'm sure that, eventually, the arbitrators will focus again in the original request. Cambalachero (talk) 13:12, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

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DYK nomination of Osvaldo Civile
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Speedy deletion declined: Tango music
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DYK for Homenaje
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DYK for Intérpretes
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Will continue to edit Hermética
I will continue to edit Hermética tomorrow. Sorry for the delay. Leo A. Mercer (talk) 06:13, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Sin código
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Amendment to Arbitration/Requests/Case/Argentine History
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2013 Rosario gas explosion

 * Actually, power has been back a few days ago, but as it came and go, I left the banner just in case. I will remove it now, as several days have passed without blackouts. Thanks for the help, and have a nice new year. Cambalachero (talk) 12:47, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Mis amigos de siempre
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Re: Template:Did you know nominations/Mangrove Robin
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DYK for Osvaldo Civile
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Argentine history
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 * , have you had a chance to look at this yet? I could give you more time if you need it. Cheers, &mdash; Cirt (talk) 13:42, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Request for clarification (January 2014)
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Philip II of Spain, English vs. Spanish perspectives
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 * Yes, I'm awar of that. In fact, there are two main groups of historiographic controversies (sometimes they overlap). The first group is when we don't have a very good idea of what has really happened in the past. As in "Julius Caesar did X!" "No, Julius Caesar did Y!" "No, Julius Caesar did x/2 + Y*2!". This happens when we don't have enough primary sources to reconstruct the events, when those sources tell only some info and leave huge gaps, or when the sources can not be completely trusted for some reason (for instance, an ancient battle report written as if the Roman generals fighting against a barbarian country was like a mythological demigod fighting against the orcs from Mordor). This is more common with the historical periods that are more distant in time. The second case is when we have a reasonable idea of the events that took place, but historians do not agree on the significance or interpretation. As in "Napoleon did X, and that's awesome!" "Napoleon did X, and that's terrible!" "Napoleon did X, but who cares?". Ultimately, those controversies are basically pointless, because historians tend to judge things with the ideas of their time and context, and do not fully try to understand the historical figures in their own context. A governor facing a severe crisis or fighting against a coalition of stronger countries may be forced to make questionable actions, and it is very easy to condem such actions when someone has never seen such a crisis personally. It's easy to be a champion of ethic codes and good governance when someone is writing in a computer in the comfort of his house, and the closest thing to governance that someone has ever done was to play "Sim City 4". Cambalachero (talk) 02:44, 25 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Very true.
 * Historiography is perhaps the most difficult concept to grasp in history. It requires the historiographer to have read as much of the literature on the subject as is available during his lifetime (and in multiple languages).
 * I remember, in another Wikipedia, getting involved into a minor discussion over the usage of sources by language. Luckily, the "my language only" position did not prevail in that case.
 * I don't think anyone who might even dare consider himself a historian (amateur or professional) can make such an irrational case. Why, then, do all the top doctorate programs in history require knowledge of multiple languages? Is it not for practical reasons, or are they simply forcing it as a requirement for fun?
 * The questions are rhetorical, of course, but they are still worth pondering about, especially among us editors who focus on subjects relevant to the rest (non-English, or English as Second Language) world.
 * Regards.-- MarshalN20 | T al k 07:52, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

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DYK for Madero Center
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DYK for Eduardo Arnold
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Your submission at Articles for creation: Leandro Zdero has been accepted
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On your revert at WP:NMUSIC
The text of WP:PGBOLD states that Consequently, you should not remove any change solely on the grounds that there was no formal discussion indicating consensus for the change before it was made. Instead, you should give a substantive reason for challenging it either in your edit summary or on the talk page; note that it gives an explicit proscription of reverting without opposing the content of the edit in all cases, regardless of how substantial that edit was. I'm not going to edit-war over this, but don't do this again. Cheers, Mach61 (talk) 02:50, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

Front for Victory
Hi

Do you have source for Front for Victory's seats (58) for 2003. For example, a part of PJ was with Menem and Saá? Panam2014 (talk) 16:20, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Decree 70 2023 has been accepted
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Rodolfo Barra
I noticed you added a template to the article Rodolfo Barra. I created the article and agree it focuses too much on specific incidents in his past but I only read basic Spanish. There's very little English coverage of Barra and I'm very unfamiliar with Argentine politics. If you are willing to improve the article, I'd really appreciate it. Philipnelson99 (talk) 19:36, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

Argentine biography - Saturnino José Rodríguez Peña
Greetings Cambalachero - This Saturnino José Rodríguez Peña article that you created on 13 March 2013 is un-referenced and an orphan article all these years. Today I tagged PROD, but hoping you might help improve. Regards, JoeNMLC (talk) 03:21, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:Star Trek: Defiant has a new comment
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