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DYK of 2007 Balad aircraft crash
Hi, you suggested I should expand the above article if I wanted it to make it to DYK. I have done some work on it, what do you think now? Blood Red Sandman Open Up Your Heart  -  Receive My EviLove  18:03, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

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DYK
Why on earth did you add Hurricane Bob when it wasn't even qualified for DYK?

Nah, I'm just kidding around. I removed Hurricane Bob after a user informed me that the article was already significant (it was around 7KB, definitely not a stub) nearly a month ago, and the significant expansion this week would not qualify it for DYK. In the future, please look at the article history to make sure a user did not mistakenly nominate an ineligible item for DYK.  Nish kid 64  19:29, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
 * No, I did read that. That would qualify as an expansion/rewrite, as the article already existed before January 23. It was pretty long even then, and that means it does not qualify for DYK. I don't think Art went back to look at the article history, and just apologized because he thought he made an error.  Nish kid 64  20:06, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
 * It was already in the mainspace. What the user did was just a rewrite of the article, and since the previous state was not a stub, the article does not qualify for DYK.  Nish kid 64  20:14, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Bart King
Yeah, it looks good. Trust your own judgement! I'm just a noob. Shaundakulbara 22:33, 30 January 2007 (UTC) The hook is kind of ambiguous though. "Considered" is kind of a weasle word. What about: The quote is referenced. Shaundakulbara 22:37, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Bart King was called "America's greatest cricketing son"?

''Bart King: Interesting and a well sourced article! But unfortunately - I'm afraid - too old for WP:DYK... according to these rules. And there doesn't seem to be much room for derogation right now. Please, keep ut the good work anyway! --Camptown 23:07, 30 January 2007 (UTC)''
 * Thanks for posting this on my page. I misread the requirements. I knew that adding 1,000 characters was good for inclusion, but I didn't know that it had to start as a stub. Hopefully I'll get it on the mainpage soon as an FA :) Thanks again.--Eva b d  03:44, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Cathedral DYK
I already responded at WPT:DYK and left a note on the user's talk page about thirty minutes.  Nish kid 64  22:24, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

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DYK updates - expired noms
Please do not take expired nominations (January 29) and add to the Next updates. DYK rules require that the articles be no more than 5 days old. Many articles did not get featured from Jan 28 and Jan 29 due to the long list and infrequent updating. &mdash; ERcheck (talk) 21:43, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
 * The rules clearly state 5 days. I've discussed this with a very active DYK admin (see my talk page). Though nominated, not all articles get featured.  Unfortunately, if there are long lags between updates, some articles will expire. &mdash; ERcheck (talk) 21:49, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Please discuss on the DYK talk page. &mdash; ERcheck (talk) 21:54, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
 * If you feel some selections (from the unexpired nominations) are unfair, feel free to discuss and replace with unexpired selection(s).  Again, see the talk page for reaching consensus on a rules change. &mdash; ERcheck (talk) 21:58, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
 * The criteria is that the articles should be over 1000 characters. The articles that I added, though short, did meet the criterion. &mdash; ERcheck (talk) 22:04, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, I do not have time to revert the changes. I was about to do an update when you started making a lot of changes.  Now, RL intervenes and I can't do it.  I would ask that you honor the process and return the expired nominations and chose from the unexpired nominations.  The "short" articles that I added were from Jan 30 and I was attempting to make a more frequent update so more articles would not expire.  I would hope you would return the ones that I added in Good Faith, for example the Sego lily, with picture, which I had just protected for updating. &mdash; ERcheck (talk) 22:07, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
 * To my knowledge there are no rules on length of article and picture. The lily picture is an excellent picture that perfectly represents the article. &mdash; ERcheck (talk) 22:14, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

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Kārlis Zāle
Hi. I noticed that you added some cats to this article. Please take a look at this (Defaultsort) - it saves a lot of time with cats, and in fact was already on the Kārlis Zāle article. HeartofaDog 16:24, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Did you know is 10 Hours old
Did you know is 10 Hours old --Hirakawacho 10:28, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Anna Politkovskaya
Hi Camptown, Could you take a look at recent editing of Anna Politkovskaya article by User:Vlad_fedorov and tell what you think about it? To me it seems extremely POV, but I would not like to revert any of his changes because of a dispute with him: Requests_for_comment/Vlad_fedorov. Sincerely, Biophys 16:53, 21 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Lovely, Biophys. Could you look here though? Requests_for_comment/Biophys.Vlad fedorov 19:24, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Your DYK nomination for Banking in Russia (regulations) was successful
Thanks for your contributions!  Nish kid 64  18:45, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Re: DYK
Concerning nomination dates, I commented on the talk page.

BTW, you returned the Yipsi Moreno article to the Suggestions page (March 7) on the grounds that it needed to be reviewed. I did review it, and returned it to the next update in place of newer articles. After checking the preview, the DYK column was too long, so I returned two to the top fothe March 8 section.

&mdash; ERcheck (talk) 13:47, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Iosif Chişinevschi
Hello. Would you perhaps be able to give a clearer indication of what sort of copyediting you'd like to see on this article? It looks OK to me. Biruitorul 17:51, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
 * OK, I made some fixes - if it looks good, you can remove the tag; if not, I'll see what else I can do. Biruitorul 19:19, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Teresa Cheung
I've reverted the changes you made to the Teresa Cheung article again. I thought I'd covered it in my edit summary, but perhaps not. In any case: We can certainly discuss this further if you like, but I'd rather not keep changing the article back and forth. PC78 12:42, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
 * The flag — Although I certainly follow your logic on this, I've also never seen an outdated flag used in this way in an infobox before. When I looked into it, I saw there was no requirement for a flag in the actor infobox, and on the talk page there was some agreement that flags should not be used in this way. So I removed the flag altogether because either way it probably shouldn't be there.
 * Citations — The first citation was for the exact date of birth. Normally I wouldn't bother, but I could only find it on that one site and it also seems to contradict the date of birth on the Chinese Wiki article, so I felt it necessary. The second citation was specifically regarding the two children from her marriage, which is not mentioned elsewhere in the article. The marriage itself is adequately covered by other sources.

Minor edits
Just a reminder that the minor edit box should only ever be used when the edit really is minor. Taking a DYK nom to the next update template isn't minor. You also might want to add an edit summary saying that you've done that. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 00:29, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Re:DYK
I didn't make the change. Also, the source must be provided for all images. We don't "imply" licensing; it must be added or it can be deleted.  Nish kid 64  19:41, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I see no point in changing it now. Licensing tags have been added, but then what's the point of swapping the image if the current one is perfectly fine?  Nish kid 64  19:56, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Re:Муромцев.jpg
Right, but Ghirlandajo does have a point. If the man died in 1910, the image is almost certainly PD, and flagging it for being unsourced seems counterproductive. Biruitorul 22:32, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, and I see you're on the same page. Biruitorul 22:33, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Absolutely - I should have said "we're on the same page". I must say I've felt his loss keenly, and I only wish others could be so constructive. Biruitorul 22:46, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

DYK
Hi - I think you moved Tâmpa, Braşov to the next update. I have moved it to the Main Page, although I think it was a bit old (much of the content was in place on 12 March). -- ALoan (Talk) 11:24, 19 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Oh, I see - you gave it a bit of "extra time" because of the sourcing problems? Fair enough.  It was a good article, so I copied it over anyway. -- ALoan (Talk) 15:36, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

CHICOTW
TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio) 00:20, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

DYK
Hi Camptown,

Recently you left a note on my talk page saying that there is a DYK rule stating that a dispute concerning a suggestion extends that entry's "life span" by another five days. I assumed that was correct, of course, even though I've never seen this rule. However, ALoan soon commented that he also knew nothing of it. So I'm asking you: where exactly is this rule written?

-- Carabinieri 19:41, 21 March 2007 (UTC)


 * That hook was never disputed. I just generally turn a blind eye to entries being expired by one day, if they were suggested a few days before their expiry and if they look good. Do you think that's a problem?-- Carabinieri 21:21, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

I trust you!
Thanks! Sorry for bothering you. Sincerely, Mattisse 15:52, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Batu Lintang camp DYK
Hi Camptown - thanks so much for changing the pic on the DYK hook. You're quite right, it is a much better picture - what was I thinking? Mad Jasper! Jasper33 19:16, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Bloody hell, if this carries on they're going to have to widen my front door so I can get my head through! Seriously - are you serious? I'm (relatively) new to all this malarkey so haven't a clue what it needs to improve it. Can you give me some pointers?  I've had a lot of help from User:Grant65: all comments welcome! Jasper33 21:10, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Ah, now I'm worried! I read The Four Stages of Cruelty when it was on the front page and thought it was really exceptional and truly fabulous - I don't reckon Batu Lintang camp is anywhere near that state of fabulosity! Besides, you say they had a team - there's just me and my reference books and lovely Grant65. Apart from a couple more images to upload, I kind of think I've stuck all that seems pertinent in already - does that mean improvement would be a matter of detail rather than new content? I'm a little worried that the amount of detail on the radio overbalances it - I had thought of hoicking that bit out as a separate article. I'm also very concerned about POV - as I explained to Grant, my grandparents were in the camp so it's hard to remain objective. That really worries me, as I want the article to be balanced, but to be honest there hasn't been much in any of my references that makes the Japanese come out looking good. Presumably I'd need to put the article through peer review and then GA candicacy first, before going for FA? Sorry about all the idiotic questions. Jasper33 22:05, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
 * LOL yeah I know what you mean about the essay style - split into n number of sections and loads of quotes. It's because I'm not very good at/don't feel qualified to draw conclusions from the evidence, so I prefer to slap in loads of quotes and let the reader draw their own conclusions. Lazy Jasper!  And as for sensitive issues - I suppose all the counter-arguments are going to be in Japanese sources and I have zero chance of reading those.  I'll just have to hope an interested Japanese editor happens by the page.  Thanks for all your comments, Camptown - it's given me lots to mull over. Cheers Jasper33 22:56, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

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