User talk:Cangorongo

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Welcome to Wikipedia, Cangorongo! I have been editing Wikipedia for quite some time. I just wanted to say hi and welcome you to Wikipedia! If you have any questions, feel free to leave me a message on or by typing helpme at the bottom of this page. I love to help new users, so don't be afraid to leave a message! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful: I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Oh yeah, I almost forgot, when you post on talk pages you should sign your name on talk pages using four tildes ( ~ ); that should automatically produce your username and the date after your post. If you need help, check out Questions, ask me on, or place helpme on your talk page and ask your question there. Again, welcome! SatuSuro 00:55, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
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Lies
Hey good start - lots of editing to do - you need to be very careful - some buzzards may come and pick the article apart to about a 10th of the size due to unencyclopediac tone/style/content - wikipedia is not a blog - most of what you have there is better on a blog. Also - categories are not done like that - watch what i do for that! look in the edit mode and reverse engineer. Dont get downhearted if someone blasts your work out of the water - try again - cheers SatuSuro 00:58, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

helpme to SatuSuro - thanks for your help. I am aware that this text is too long and anecdotal - it's ok if someone shortens it down to the relevant info - it's the text I wrote for the Lies website (I was one of the editors). The question is - I've done the article, but I'm having trouble getting links to on menu/index pages. For instance, when I put it in Magazines-Australian-defunkt - it didn't give me the option of putting in its alphabetical place, the new link to it is at the top of the page, which isn't correct, and I'm hoping you or someone will correct that.Cangorongo (talk) 01:13, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Just pplaced the defunct magazine category at the base of the article - check that SatuSuro 01:17, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

helpme Hi SatuSuro again. Thanks for that - but why is the option to edit that index not visible, and is it acceptable to just place an entry and wait for someone who's able to sort it out? And another one regarding Lies: would it be appropriate to put it into the index page 'Satirical Magazines' - there's several in there which are also defunkt/not current, but anyway, the paper magazine is defunkt but the website is there with free pages, some new editions and plans to put up some of my recent satirical work. If not fair enough I won't make a fuss.Cangorongo (talk) 01:29, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
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helpme SatuSuro I am off to bed now I'm in the UK it's 2.43am, but I'll get that Lies article into much better shape in the next few days - thanks for your helpCangorongo (talk) 01:44, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

helpme SatuSuro I've just given the Lies article a thorough going over - it should be more appropriate for wikipedia now. When do the comments boxes at the top get re-appraised? Also - there's no citations or external reference sources for this entry - because there's no other mention of this topic on the web.


 * Hi there, if that's the case it could be original research which is not allowed on wikipedia. Also, you can remove the comment boxes your self if you feel that they are no longer valid. The   Helpful   One  (Review) 15:00, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Cinema Prague
A tag has been placed on Cinema Prague requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a band, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for musical topics.

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helpme I have just placed an article about a fairly well known band - Cinema Prague - and it's immediately received a 'speedy deletion' notice. Looking at the criteria for a speedy deletion, I don't think it deserves it!!Cangorongo (talk) 13:14, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
 * You can establish notability by referencing the article with reliable sources. You might want to check Wikipedia's notability guidelines for musical acts to make sure this band satisfies them. Best, Gr1st (talk) 14:30, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Deleted talk from Talk:Cinema Prague
I have place this new entry for Cinema Prague. It is little more than a stub, I agree.

I can't see what the problem is - it is a well known and well respected band with a long history and four albums. The article is not thorough, but it is basically a stub.

How can I indicate the 'importance' of this band, without using language which is opinionated and unbiased?

I think 'speedy deletion' is not appropriate for a posting done in good faith about a topic which has a legitimate right to be there.Cangorongo (talk) 13:05, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
 * It may be in good faith, but it still completely fails to meet the minimum criteria for inclusion. Notability for a band means that it's important enough to have been reviewed by major publications, etc. See WP:BAND. DMacks (talk) 15:43, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Parked at User:Cangorongo/Cinema Prague for a little while. DMacks (talk) 01:35, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Lies Magazine
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Cinema Prague
Am currently working on a draft article for Cinema Prague and when I did a quick search found you had already created (& had deleted) an article on the band. I intended to expand and fully reference the article before I post it - have found that if you can justify the article in the article it avoids having it deleted. As you can see I have taken some of your words in my 1st draft and am more than happy if you want to add anything before I post it. Dan arndt (talk) 00:20, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Have done some further updates to Cinema Prague but have struggled to find verifiable third party references - have cobbled together a lot of the information for various sources. If you know of any info regarding the band's early history (i.e. original members, original name etc) then feel free to add it to the draft.  The lead sentence needs to be sourced (have used your words) as it reads like an opinion. Also I am guessing that all the band's releases were independent recordings as I have been unable to find any label details.  Also if you come across any reviews/interviews verifying their international performances that would assist. Dan arndt (talk) 03:34, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

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