User talk:Canon865

Calum Forrester
Hi, Canon. Welcome to Wikipedia. Let me see if I can address the various points in the message you left me, and in your reversion of my edit.

"Tonight I have come on and seen that you have deleted the large majority of information and, to be honest, I am furious. As a long time fan of Glasgow Warriors I stand by the accuracy of the article and would say that what you have done amounts to little more than vandalism." I'm sorry that the edit upsets you, but among Wikipedia's core policies are Verifiability, which requires all information in its articles to be supported by reliable, verifiable sources that are cited in the text. This applies to all articles, but is of particular importance to Biographies of living people, with which special care must be taken. In addition, Wikipedia's Trivia policy frowns upon miscellaneous lists of bulleted items that, if sourced, can be incorporated elsewhere into the article. Removing this information is not only legitimate, it is required by policy, and is not vandalism. I also noticed that you removed the template, which I placed in the article because much of the article's material is indeed unreferenced, and that you reverted my edit of the references to Forrester's name. In fact, reference sources generally do not refer to a subject by a given name, but by his/her surname, unless distinguishing between different people with the same last name. Reverting this is not justified.

"Despite having no knowledge of the player, the team, or the accuracy of claims, you have seen fit to delete whatever you fancied." In the first place, you have no basis to assert what knowledge I possess. But more importantly, Wikipedia is not based on personal knowledge or authority of the subject of an article. It's based on reliable, verifiable sources. Material that is not supported by such sources must be deleted. It is for this reason, as aforementioned, that I deleted the material, and not because of what I fancied. "Reading the other posts on this page, it seems to me that this is how you get your kicks, as I am not the first to be infuriated by your tampering. In my opinion, this is pathetic....I have also noticed that you have written and contributed to many articles and, therefore, I am presuming that you would be pretty pissed off if someone went and deleted them all." Part of being a Wikipedian is accepting that no editor owns articles, and must be prepared to have their work mercilessly edited. For new users learning how Wikipedia works, this can sometimes mean having an article you've worked on heavily be so edited, and in some cases, deleted, and for perfectly legitimate reasons. Have I had such work undone, and an article or two deleted? Yes. Have I been frustrated at times? Sure. But if one is committed to Wikipedia, then it is better not to get "pissed", but to simply familiarize yourself with its practices so that most of your work ends up remaining, which has been the case with most of my work. This does not change the fact that editing disputes occur, but genuine disputes do not constistute "tampering", any more than they constitute vandalism. "It does not concern you and you would be well advised to mind your own business. If you don't like the page...don't read it!...Dont make me do it...get a life and stop pissing on other peoples cornflakes!...This is your one and only warning, don't touch the calum forrester page again." You have no authority to tell other editors which articles are their concern, to dictate which articles they edit, or to issue "warnings". Doing so without just cause is a violation of Wikipedia's Civility policy, and much of this portion of your post violates No personal attacks. Please do not issue threats to anyone. Doing so can result in your being blocked. Please take the time to learn about Wikipedia's policies. You can visit the Welcome Page, and look over the Five Pillars page to learn more. If you need any further help, or have questions about editing, just let me know. Please leave new messages at the bottom of my Talk Page, and sign your posts with four tildes (~). Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 06:35, 17 October 2008 (UTC)