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Your submission at Articles for creation: MIL-53 (April 8)
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Majavah (t/c) 14:32, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: MIL-53 has been accepted
 MIL-53, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

Congratulations, and thank you for helping expand the scope of Wikipedia! We hope you will continue making quality contributions.

The article has been assessed as C-Class, which is recorded on its talk page. This is a great rating for a new article, and places it among the top of accepted submissions — kudos to you! You may like to take a look at the grading scheme to see how you can improve the article.

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Thanks again, and happy editing!  DGG ( talk ) 02:30, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: MIL-47 has been accepted
 MIL-47, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

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Thanks again, and happy editing! KylieTastic (talk) 14:39, 9 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Hi, rather than rejecting to point you to the correct place I accepted but note that for new redirects the requests should go to Articles for creation/Redirects and categories. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 14:42, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:DUT-5 has a new comment
 I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:DUT-5. Thanks! -- RoySmith (talk) 19:39, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: DUT-5 has been accepted
 DUT-5, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

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Thanks again, and happy editing! -- RoySmith (talk) 14:24, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia
Here are suggested readings: WP:SECONDARY and WP:COI. The gist of these guidelines are: If you have questions, many editors can offer advice. Happy editing. --Smokefoot (talk) 22:07, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia prefers citations to reviews and books, not primary journal references (tens of thousands appear annually). Citing secondary sources is the encyclopedic style.
 * Do not cite yourself or your colleagues. It's called conflict of interest.  Many new editors cite themselves mainly.  That behavior is unacceptable.


 * Thank you for these advices. Unfortunately, they still left some open questions:


 * For the articles on DUT-5 and HKUST-1, there are no reviews on these topics. Does that mean that I cannot set up a wiki page on these topics, since no secondary sources are available? In the case of MIL-53, the review is not up to date anymore, should I then rather use primary sources only for newly published or forgotten literature and use the review as citation?
 * I am author of few of these references, but the major amount >95% of the citations that I inserted are not from me or colleques that I know personally. For a complete overview, they are nonetheless important. Furthermore, I did not state any interpretation on these topics, but rather provided an overview on published literature. Can you quickly give your opinion if I should not do that? --Canucksplayer (talk) 08:01, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Check out WP:NOT. Wikipedia is not a technical journal: it provides overviews.  It is an encyclopedia. It is not Chem Soc Rev.  Wikipedia does not compete with technical journal, where real scientists fight it out.


 * 2671 articles discuss the topic of HKUST-1, according to Chemical Abstracts. So are you going to cite them all? No? What are the criteria for the handful that you do cite - that they include your papers? Or you are the judge and referee?  The advantages to citing mainly reviews are these: (i) its the rule, (ii) readers benefit more, (iii) doing so lifts that responsibility from the shoulders of the editor.

The art of contributing to Wikipedia is not citing primary literature. It is providing an overview. Doing so is difficult because giving perspective requires broad knowledge and restraint.--Smokefoot (talk) 12:34, 18 April 2020 (UTC)


 * I have read the articles you suggested and a few more. I would really like to learn/know how to improve on writing articles. I got the problem what you are telling me, parts of it I was aware of before and others I haven't thought about before. So I'm still trying to figure out a solution. If I stick to the topic HKUST-1: This page did not exist before and there is no review in scientific literature so far. Which of the following possibilities would you advice me to follow?
 * Do not create a page unless a review is published.
 * Create a page and mention only details that are reported by several articles independently (in this case e.g. the structure and components)
 * Create page and add details like the ones that can be found on the current version, but using less citations.
 * I hope that you can help me or know someone that can and wants to deal with me and my annoying questions. In any way, thank you for your efforts and patience! --Canucksplayer (talk) 21:38, 18 April 2020 (UTC)