User talk:Canyoneer2

Ernest Hemingway‎
Hello. Did you check the punctuation in the sources before changing Ernest Hemingway? If so, your change was a correction and should not have been marked minor. If not, please read MOS:QUOTE: punctuation should go inside the quote if it was in the original and stay outside if it only belongs to the quoting text. --Mirokado (talk) 09:20, 2 March 2012 (UTC)


 * You are correct -- I should have checked the source, and I acted hastily. I was blindly going by the AP Stylebook, and not paying attention to the Wiki MOS. What happened was that there were some real clunkers of phraseology (not involving quotes) that needed work, and I was feeling so good about improving them that I started tearing into the closing quotes. But only in a few paragraphs, and not in a way that would alter anyone's meaning. But it won't happen again. Should I go back and search for my work? The edits that didn't involve quotes were sorely needed, and shouldn't be tossed out at the same time. Canyoneer2 (talk) 17:10, 2 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your reply. Please could you change those quote-punctuation alterations back again? The other changes look fine, thanks for those. (You can bring up a difference view from the article history which helps with that sort of change).
 * (We normally indent each reply on talk pages one more level, as I have done here). --Mirokado (talk) 17:22, 2 March 2012 (UTC)


 * OK; I have the very helpful Difference View, from which I can jump to the html view, which provides no clue as to where I was or anything I had highlighted. You've been very helpful so far; can you clue me in to how I can have the Difference View visible while I trawl through the html? Should I have them in two side-by-side windows? I don't want to screw anything up. Canyoneer2 (talk) 17:46, 2 March 2012 (UTC)


 * (no spaces between the indenting colons, space after optional, I have tweaked). One way of doing this is to have the difference view in one tab and the edit view in another. You can then search for near context in the diff view and repeat the search in the edit view. As well as the quote-punctuation changes, please remove restore the quotes round "accidental".
 * You could also try undoing your most recent change, inspecting the "show changes" before you "save page" and restoring the changes you still want (that way you can repeat searches within the same tab to jump from diff context to editing context). However you do it you can keep hitting "show changes" and editing further until you are happy with the differences. It is a good idea to check the "show preview" every time before saving too.
 * This will be excellent practice for you, of course! Once you have used the various views for a while the editing gets easier. --Mirokado (talk) 19:50, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Never mind now, Truthkeeper (who has access to a lot of the sources) has made the necessary changes with an explanatory edit summary. I'm using the opportunity to show you what we can do when the indentation of answers on talk pages gets too deep. I'll add a standard welcome section with a few links... --Mirokado (talk) 07:42, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

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