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Your submission at Articles for creation: List of Delhi NGOs (August 5)
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Ways to improve Shubhadrangi
Hi, I'm Snowycats. Capankajsmilyo, thanks for creating Shubhadrangi!

I've just tagged the page, using our page curation tools, as having some issues to fix. Hello there! Thanks for creating an article on Wikipedia. When you create articles, copying and pasting is not a good thing. Even though you referenced them, you can only source information from there and not copy and paste their content.

The tags can be removed by you or another editor once the issues they mention are addressed. If you have questions, you can leave a comment on my talk page. Or, for more editing help, talk to the volunteers at the Teahouse. Snowycats (talk) 01:35, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Shubhadrangi


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Dr. P. C. Jain
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Your submission at Articles for creation: Smilyo Educational Charitable Society (August 11)
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Random tagging
Please stop randomly adding talk page project tags to articles like you did here. I suggest you go through your contributions and remove such additions. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  10:14, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Also please stop the addition of sister project tags when nothing exists on those projects. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  10:16, 12 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Please specify the talk page project tags you are referring to.--Pankaj Jain 10:19, 12 August 2015 (UTC)


 * See the link above --, are just two examples. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  10:25, 12 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Sister project links were for reference purpose only, and what's talk page project? I thought it was a normal wiki tag like . It was written on the Project Page to tag Jainism Pages.--Pankaj Jain 10:27, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
 * The sister project links should be used when there's content in those projects, not otherwise. Wikiproject banners are for talk pages, not for article space. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  10:58, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
 * So I use sister tags only when content is available and other tag on talk pages of those pages?Capankajsmilyo (talk · contribs) 11:02, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, that is correct. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  11:05, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Sure! Thanks for the information-- Capankajsmilyo (talk · contribs) 11:10, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

For e.g., you added the project tag here, but that article already has the tag on the talk page. Please remove all these tags and if any have to be added, do so on the talk page, as the project tags carry assessment and categories which do not belong in article space. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  11:21, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

August 2015
It appears that you have been canvassing—leaving messages on a biased choice of users' talk pages to notify them of an ongoing community decision, debate, or vote—in order to influence Dandamis. While friendly notices are allowed, they should be limited and nonpartisan in distribution and should reflect a neutral point of view. Please do not post notices which are indiscriminately cross-posted, which espouse a certain point of view or side of a debate, or which are selectively sent only to those who are believed to hold the same opinion as you. Remember to respect Wikipedia's principle of consensus-building by allowing decisions to reflect the prevailing opinion among the community at large. Thank you. You have canvassed 30 users with a cut'n'pasted alert. Ogress smash! 17:31, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

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 * Thank you once again :D -- Capankajsmilyo (talk · contribs) 17:34, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

Canvassing
Canvassing a large number of people when you have a conflict with another editor is against Wikipedia policy. By my count, you have spammed thirty accounts today with the following comment:

== Dandi Swami's Greek Version == What are your comments on Dandi Swami's Greek Version? - Pankaj Jain 1:34 am, Today (UTC−7)

This is completely inappropriate. Ogress smash! 17:27, 12 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Please elaborate on this. I am relatively new to wikipedia and not familiar with usertalk regulations. -- Capankajsmilyo (talk · contribs) 17:29, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
 * You have 660 edits on Wikimedia and are apparently familiar with very intricate functions of its syntax, so you are no newcomer. In addition, I specifically linked an article above that outlines what canvassing is. Ogress smash! 17:34, 12 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Please check the dates, I have been actively editing since few days only. Thanks for the reference, will keep it in mind. -- Capankajsmilyo (talk · contribs) 17:37, 12 August 2015 (UTC)


 * And yet you are aware of intricate syntax and are creating Infoboxes and are pushing POV all over Wikipedia. I have done quite a bit of editing on Jainism articles; your approach of using a sledgehammer such as adding a Jainism template to Gautama Buddha is not helpful. Please, direct your welcome enthusiasm at finding reliable sources. WP:RS discusses them. We are seeking secondary, scholarly sources. Ogress smash! 17:42, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

Your contributed article, Kalyan Muni


Hello, I noticed that you recently created a new page, Kalyan Muni. First, thank you for your contribution; Wikipedia relies solely on the efforts of volunteers such as you. Unfortunately, the page you created covers a topic on which we already have a page – Kalanos. Because of the duplication, your article has been tagged for speedy deletion. Please note that this is not a comment on you personally and we hope you will continue helping to improve Wikipedia. If the topic of the article you created is one that interests you, then perhaps you would like to help out at Kalanos – you might like to discuss new information at the article's talk page.

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Capankajsmilyo
Hi there. It's clear I have gotten off on the wrong foot with you for various reasons.

I'd like to clear the air: I am not anti-Jain. I am also excited about new users. I have done a lot of work on Jain pages in the past: they were in truly appalling shape and I basically revamped all the pages on philosophy, the tirthankaras and many other topics. I did a lot of research and expanded the coverage of Jainism quite a bit.

It is important to me that Jain topics get the respect they deserve. In addition, the sad fact of the matter is that pages about the Indian religions get overrun by hagiography, bad scholarship, and religious zealots. What we need is solid, reliable sourcing by scholars. It is very important to Wikipedia and to Jainism that we don't just accept religious texts' statements as historical facts, but rather that we use scholarly works. This is both the cornerstone of Wikipedia and how Jainism articles become reliable and perhaps featured on our main page.

I hope that clarifies my reasons for responding firmly to your edits and the reason I challenged your sources. It's the backbone of the editing process at Wikipedia, not a personal attack or a bias against Jainism.

Additionally, you seem to have a rather deep knowledge of how to edit Wikipedia and my assumption is that you have experience with the Wikimedia system. I understand you are new to the English wikipedia and I am sorry if I stepped on your toes; I definitely misunderstood your level of interpersonal interaction based on your technical skill. Most new users don't start by building new Infoboxes and adding categories and the like. Ogress smash! 20:29, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
 * One further thing: if I had a strong reaction to you canvassing, let me clarify: that offense usually involves notifying about two or three editors. By my count, you summoned thirty editors to a page when we had an edit conflict. That is terrifying. That is an army of people you think will support your position. Ogress smash! 20:33, 12 August 2015 (UTC)


 * It's cool with me! I am sorry too, If my actions hampered your beliefs. The reason I could do that (what you stated) is because I am editing on Wikipedia for long hours since a week or so. Due to shorter timeframe (in terms of no. of days), I haven't yet encountered, in these 8-10 days, many wikipedians and hence not aware of much wikipedia policy. Creating infobox extra just need copy paste and a little tech knowledge about syntax. Having designed multiple websites I know how TECH works, not how Wikipedia works. It's nice that you moderate the content and I appreciate that. But, I would recommend you to first ping the one who did the editions before commenting on him. Also, having read few of the Jain Articles, I observed conflicting references are shown on the face of the article stating the conflicting nature. This is there especially in Svetambara and Digambara overlapping texts. Hence, I made some of those changes. I am not against greek or buddhist versions. They should stay on the page. I just saw that there's huge vacuum in terms of Jain versions and hence, they must also find its place. One of the techniques I observed is stating Jain Version or using the text like According to Jain Texts. So, Kalanos can remain unchanged, but I would suggest that the Jain Version should also be presented on the page as other version (if not in the main article)-- Capankajsmilyo (talk · contribs) 20:44, 12 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Further, regarding posting on talk pages, I was asking them to review the article as per their knowledge. It wasn't meant for anything like army or stuff. Getting more users to verify a piece is always good. If they know some more sources they could have cited otherwise ignored. This is how we work in group website projects or facebook or even discussion forums. However, I couldn't find any community like thing in wikipedia so resorted to that being unaware of Anti-Pinging Policy.-- Capankajsmilyo (talk · contribs) 20:52, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

Hi
Hi, I saw your post on my talk page. Thanks for your comments. Yes at one time I was very active on Wikipedia. However, now I rarely login in Wikipedia as I am not able to find time from my activities. Nice to see new users interested in Jainism in Wikipedia. This is a rare phenomenon. Nice to see that you are also a CA like me. If you require my help, do ping me.--Indian Chronicles (talk) 12:31, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

Sources, etc
Please read carefully WP:RS. You've been adding blogs and websites that don't meet our criteria for reliable sources. In addition, Wikipedia should not tell readers what is noteworthy. It also doesn't make sense to tell readers that Krishna was a prince for 300 years but lived about 126 years. Doug Weller (talk) 13:04, 15 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the link, will avoid adding blogs now. It was Neminatha who was prince for 300 years not Krishna. Neminatha's life was 1000 years. -- Pankaj Jain Capankajsmilyo (talk · contribs) 13:09, 15 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Ohh, so you were talking about krishna reference. I found it on Krishna and it is there for quite some time. So I thought that it would be correct. Please remove from there if you think that this reference is not good. Noteworthy point also noticed. Thanks for the suggestions -- Pankaj Jain Capankajsmilyo (talk · contribs) 17:26, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

Merge request
The two pages 'Rishabha' and 'Ikshvaku' can't be merged. Nimit (talk) 14:18, 16 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Why can't they be merged? They talk about same deity -- Pankaj Jain Capankajsmilyo (talk · contribs) 14:47, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
 * The name Ikshvaku is mentioned in Hindu scriptures for a different person. Only in Jainism, Ikshvaku and Rishabha are used for the same person.Nimit (talk) 16:05, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Vishuddhasagar
Hello Capankajsmilyo,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Vishuddhasagar for deletion, because the article doesn't clearly say why the subject is important enough to be included in an encyclopedia.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Arthistorian1977 (talk) 15:11, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Reference errors on 17 August
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 * Hi, you are still continuing to do edits without writing any edit summaries. Can you please provide edit summaries? It will help the rest of us that are trying to review edits, and it will ensure that your edits won't get reverted for lack of explanation. Cheers, Kautilya3 (talk) 21:09, 18 August 2015 (UTC)


 * I try to give edit summaries for most of the edits except minor edits. Do I need to give summaries for minor edits as well? This will make the summary bigger than the edit itself sometimes.. -- Pankaj Jain Capankajsmilyo (talk · contribs) 21:12, 18 August 2015 (UTC)