User talk:CapeHenry

Cape Henry Collegiate School
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Notice of Conflict of interest noticeboard discussion
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Conflict of interest/Noticeboard regarding a possible conflict of interest incident in which you may be involved. Thank you.&mdash; alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 17:57, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Specifically here: Coin &mdash; alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 17:58, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

We own the website, we are trying to update the information on Wikipedia to be correct, which we thought was the point of it. We can type everything out if that would help, but it doesn't make sense time wise. We'd appreciate it if you would undo the removal of content that you made.

Regards.

Response
We own the website capehenrycollegiate.org, we are trying to update the information on Wikipedia to be correct, which we thought was the point of it. We can type everything out if that would help, but it doesn't make sense time wise. We'd appreciate it if you would undo the removal of content that you made. Regards.


 * Thanks for answering. You could read up on how to edit with a conflict of interest here: Coi.  If your main interest in contributing to wikipedia is to fix that one article for your employers, though, it's going to be hard for you to understand how things work around here.  Not impossible, but hard.  First of all, you say that you own the website, but in order to donate the copyrighted text for use on WP you'd have to go through a process to verify your ownership, explained at WP:OTRS.  Also, when you say "we," it's going to make people think that there's more than one person using your account, which is not allowed at wikipedia, see WP:ORGNAME.  I think that the best thing for you to do would be to try editing some articles that you're not associated with the topics of to get practice using wikipedia, and after you have a better feel for things, make edit requests on the CHCS talk page and let experienced editors decide if they're reasonable.&mdash; alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 18:16, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Response
Thank you for the clarifying links. What I (said we earlier since, yes, we would like to expand the information on the school) would like to do is add more information about the school. Right now there is simply an overview of the campus/history and an old athletics blurb. I would like to be able to add some more information about other parts of the school. I certainly am not trying to offend anybody or add items that are not correct, just would like more facts listed.


 * Please read WP:COI. Please don't edit the article, but discuss on the article's talk page the edits that you would like to make so that they can be discussed by other editors who do not have a COI.--ukexpat (talk) 19:28, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Examples of how to do it
I put some examples of the kind of material that's appropriate for inclusion into the CHC article so you can see what kinds of edit requests are likely to be approved of. If it's in a newspaper or book, it's much more likely to be inclusible. Stuff from the school's website, not so much, unless it's basic data.&mdash; alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 01:08, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

How Wikipedia works
Wikipedia works differently than most people would expect. For example, you might think the best source of information for Cape Henry Collegiate School article is the Cape Henry Collegiate School website. Actually, websites of the Wikipedia article topic are one of the worst sources as far as Wikipedia is concered. The best sources are those that are not connected to the article topic (such as books, scholarly journals, magazines, newspaper articles). A goal is to create an article that is a thorough and representative survey of the relevant literature. The Cape Henry Collegiate School should be built from coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the Cape Henry Collegiate School subject. The Internet is built on people conveying who they are. Wikipedia is different from the Internet because Wikipedia is interested in what others write about Henry Collegiate School, not what Henry Collegiate School or those connected with the school writes about Henry Collegiate School. User:Alf.laylah.wa.laylah now is building the Cape Henry Collegiate School article from sources that are independent of Cape Henry Collegiate School. Watch what he does. Once you get the idea, you should be able to contribute to the article by finding new reliable source material and working that into the article. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 06:29, 1 August 2012 (UTC)