User talk:Captmondo/Archives/2007/January

Mummy head
Unfortunatly, The shabti head isn't a free image. I suggested the shabti the first time, but it was changed because they prefer to avoid using fair use images, apparently. I'd prefer it too... Thanatosimii 03:16, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Thutmose III isn't that far off. I'd agree with most of what you said, except I already have tried this highlited image of construction thing, and it's problematic because noone knows exactly what karnak looked like after he was done with it, or if they do, they aren't telling. I also think some space could be dedicated to the tombs of his officials. There's one particularly famous one, but I forget the name at the time. In two weeks, I'm going to request a copy of A New Biography, which ought to illuminate some other parts of his reign like his art which still seem lacking to me. Besides that, I could see it going for FA within the near future. I think we should skip GA, since it's apparently not really all that prestigeous nor difficult to get, but instead, after we feel the article is complete, simply peer reveiw it, adress those concerns, get a copyedit, and then go straight for FA. Thanatosimii 19:53, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, the request for research idea was more of a request for people who have access to the kind of library needed to get ahold of it, more than to buy it. I agree, the price on that book is absurd. I do think we probably could arrange such a request page, although it would probably take Markh's skill with wikiformatting (I have never understood in the slightest how he manages to get any of those templates to work). Somthing which has our areas of most interest/expertise, key personal works in our libraries, things we could get ahold moderatly soon, and what we can't get but could use. That, I believe, would be helpful. Thanatosimii 21:12, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism of Thutmose III
A user with the log in Number 207.XX has been repeatedly vandalising Thutmose III's web page today. I wonder if he has vanadlising other Wikipedia articles too? Perhaps there is a way to prevent him from editing. He just ignored someone's attempt to revert his edits on this king and continues to vandalise the site. He should be warned and stopped from editing ASAP if possible. He gives Wikipedia a bad name. BTW, pls revert his "edits" about this king building nuclear plants and other nonsense. Leoboudv 21:03, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Image:Ahmose-shabti-head.png
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Egyptian chronology
Hi Keith. Sorry to contact you here but I have lost your E-mail address. Anyway, this is to let you know that Year 4 of Setnakhte is attested on a newly discovered stela. (see this story by Al-Ahram http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2007/827/hr1.htm ) This most likely gives 4 FULL years for Setnakhte, not 3 years as previously thought. So, the 20th Dynasty chronology is shifted forward by a year from Setnakhte to Ramesses VIII. I have done the changes here. Ramesses VIII's reign is unaffected since his reign was really short, either 1 or 2 years. (no one can tell!) You can access the image of the stela from the Al-Ahram web page by clicking on the photo for a clearer view. The enlarged picture does appear to show 4 vertical strokes after the Year sign at the upper right hand corner of the document--where one would expect it to appear. Since the Luxor monuments director--Mansour Borayek--says it reads as Year 4, it must be true since he has direct access to it; also, as you can clearly see, the stela is extremely well preserved. This is another case of a new discovery altering Egyptian chronology. Who knows what else lies in the sands of Egypt! BTW, Someone earlier tried to download the picture of the stela on Setnakhte's web page but I removed it since it's copyright likely belongs to Al-Ahram. Unfortunately, there isn't a single picture of this king's monument[s] on his web page at present. Regards, Leoboudv 04:17, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

The photo of Setnakhte is back again. Personally, I have no ojection at all to the posting of the photo--and it is an excellent photo of the stela. Before, there was not a single image of Setnakht on Wikipedia at all. The image is reposted under the "fair use" criteria. What does "fair use" mean? Secondly, if you are able to access and post images of the monuments of several Egyptian pharaohs, may I suggest several noteworthy royal candidates for which no pictures are available namely: Ramesses XI, Shoshenq I--a real surprise since he is one of the most important Dynasty 22 kings--and Ramesses IV. Ramesses IV ruled Egypt for slightly more than 6 years but he was not a mere non-entity. He had great plans for Egypt and continued his father's monumental building programs. He continued sending out quarrying expeditions to the Sinai where the Shasu are last mentioned in New Kingdom documents. It was after his reign that Egypt's decline started and insecurity plagued the Deir El-Medina workers. There was enough material on this king that AJ Peden wrote a nice compact 148 page biography on him titled "The Reign of Ramesses IV" in 1994. Leoboudv 11:25, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Re: Personal bibliograpy
I noted your list there.. It seems like you've got quite enough reading there to last you a while. I plan on getting a similar list up myself soon, I think, but I've been busy moving back into school.

On another note, Amenhotep I finally was reviewed and passed a GA nomination that I put it up for about a month ago, and I've got it up for a peer review now. How that goes may indicate whether or not shorter articles on lesser known figures could ever be raised to FA standards. It'd be good to get your input, or any other help you can give to the article. His cultural developments and his building projects sections seem a little weak still. Thanatosimii 05:33, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Amenemhet II
Do you know how to restore the prenomen of Amenemhet II, Nubkaure--in this king's info box. I've given up! It had a link to a web site dubbed 'petrie.acl' which I removed since it showed no useful data. I gave a more precise link from Clayton's book on the Egyptian Pharaohs. But the Prenomen data doesn't appear on his web page at present. Leoboudv 07:07, 17 January 2007 (UTC) or 24.87, etc

I fixed the problem. Thank You. Leoboudv 20:12, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Dear Keith, I actually subscribe to the EEF Forum. The Forum moderator, Ayko Eyma, gives us the latest news bulletins on Ancient Egypt every Thursday. He also forwards us the latest news as well as Egyptological discussions every day. That was how I learned of the new discovery of Setnakht's stela. You should consider joining it since its free. I could tell you more in private if I hadn't lost your E-mail address. Here is its main web site: PS: It is a Professional Forum. No Rohlist or NC ideas are allowed. Regards, Leoboudv 02:02, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Just to let you know that I have rewritten much of Amenhotep III and included all the latest scholarship on this great king. I'v also included original texts from both the Amarna letters and Egyptian documents on this king's one and only Year 5 campaign and on one of the commemorative scarabs. I think the article is as good as it gets with perhaps some needed additions on Amenhotep's monumental building program which is a bit brief here and maybe one or two more photos of this king's many monuments at Karnak. As for Thutmose IV, I'm afraid that he isn't my cup of tea. I primarily visited University last week to get information on Yuya, Amenhotep III and Ramesses IV and won't be back again for months. As I note, most of the information on Thutmose IV seems correct but is almost completely unreferenced. If you wish to improve it, I suggest, you consider reading Betsy Bryan's 1991 biography on him titled "The reign of Thutmose IV" by Johns Hopkins University. Bryan is a professional Egyptologist. I haven't had the time to write on Ramesses IV. Anyway, I hope you approve of my work on Amenhotep III. Regards, Leoboudv 05:35, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Dear Keith, I didn't know you visited the great Univ. of Toronto lucky you, though not as an Egyptologist. If there was something you could get for me, it would be a small part of Betsy Bryan's book on The Reign of Thutmose IV. I checked the Univ. of Toronto catalogue and it is currently listed as available at the Robarts Library, call number DT87 B78 1991. What I'm looking for is an overview or introduction for this king's reign--not something big like his monumental projects. Eric Cline & David O'Connor's book on Amenhotep III also had a nice short c.20 page overview of his reign. Since Bryan's book is small, you should be able to copy 2 pages on 9 by 12 letter sized paper. If you could copy and scan them to me, that would be fabulous and would settle the matter of the paper I sent you. That is all I ask. My shaw E-mail address is unchanged. With kind Regards, Fabian Leoboudv 22:46, 24 January 2007 (UTC)