User talk:CarTick/Archive 11

Film article names
Hi Cartick,

I see you have moved Kalidas (1931 Film)‎ to Kalidas (film). My bad - I didn't see the older stub when i created the new article and redirected the older article to the newer one. Is there a standard to follow while naming film articles? i see some of them are named like Kalidas (Tamil Film) or Kalidas (Film) or just Kalidas or Kalidas (film). I plan to create a few more on the old tamil films. Should i add (Film) to all titles or just for only those who need disambiguation? Sodabottle (talk) 04:37, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

TN assembly
Ya if that's easier. But just make sure that it reflects the current MLAs for each constituencies, since it has changed a lot since 2006.Nader85021 (talk) 04:16, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

newly delimited constituencies
I see your point. The only problem is its hard to see which ones are new constituents which ones are old. I am thinking about going through all the defunct constituency and indicate for each of the state assembly constituents, what lok sabha constituent it was merged with.--Harish89 (talk) 16:48, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

duplicate articles
Yes, those are duplicate articles, and they should be deleted.--Harish89 (talk) 04:44, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

M. S. Subbulakshmi
Can you help find a public domain/licensed as free to use image of her? Looks like the one image that's available right now is on the deletion path. cheers. - Spaceman  Spiff  18:33, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
 * That is not going to be easy. hope someone who has her picture will volunteer to upload it. will see. -- Car Tick  00:08, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I tried searching, but couldn't find much in terms of photos on flickr or picassa. Haven't been able to find some other of her early concert pics that ought to be in public domain either. Hoping to take this to GA soon, after actually writing something in the article, so a couple of photos would definitely help. cheers. - Spaceman  Spiff  03:15, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Did I forget to thank you? ..
good luck. -- Car Tick  13:51, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Category question
Since you're the politics cats guy, is there any reason to have this newly created Category:Former Nominated Rajya Sabha members? It was split off from the main one last week. It doesn't read well IMO, but I'm also wondering on the need for it. At any time there's no more than six current members, so why have only the current ones on the main and the former on the sub-cat, if at all, shouldn't it be the other way round? cheers. - Spaceman  Spiff  04:15, 6 November 2009 (UTC)


 * the number of articles in both categories being very few, i understand ur concern. Nevertheless, i have to admit that it adds a level of clarity. -- Car Tick  04:25, 6 November 2009 (UTC)


 * What about a rename? Does it read correctly to you? I'm finding the Former + nominated qualification at the start a bit difficult, but maybe it's just me. cheers. - Spaceman  Spiff  04:29, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
 * agree, sounds clumsy... let us see. -- Car Tick  04:34, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Disputed article name at Sivakasi riots of 1899
Hello CarTick. Please participate at Talk:Sivakasi riots of 1899 to explain why you think this is the best name. The article has been moved twice in quick succession with no apparent discussion. This may appear to some people as move-warring. EdJohnston (talk) 05:03, 6 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Please check out Talk:Sivakasi riots of 1899. Thanks.- The Enforcer Office of the secret service 06:17, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Talkback
- Spaceman  Spiff  19:53, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Check this?
Translation request. Don't know if it's the same person I mentioned. - Spaceman  Spiff  21:21, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Talkback
Doctor muthu's muthu wanna talk ? 11:37, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Talkback
- Spaceman  Spiff  01:55, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Re:Elections
Right now, I am occupied with getting V. S. Srinivasa Sastri to GA.- The Enforcer Office of the secret service 12:43, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

TN politicos
New stub types for creation -- discussion here. - Spaceman  Spiff  06:59, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

uniformity in election colors
Sure we could do that. How do you think we should do the coloring?--Harish89 (talk) 18:07, 16 November 2009 (UTC)


 * we dont need to use different colours for different parties and rather use a single light colour over all or no colour at all. it just looks too gaudy otherwise. -- Car Tick  18:14, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Flag of India
Is up for delisting from FA. I'm trying to make sense of the article right now, too much junk has crept in when no one looked. Want to take a stab on the talk page? Sodabottle? - Spaceman  Spiff  23:09, 18 November 2009 (UTC)


 * having a narrow scope, I am surprised it was nominated a FA in the first place. -- Car Tick  04:41, 19 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Was Nichalp's FA, and I haven't seen him around since I started editing. I've left a few points on the article talk page. It can actually be kept as an FA, but it needs to be trimmed down first. BTW, using AWB, it should be easy to create the politician stubs without difficulty, read through the link Ganesh provided and it seems quite simple.- Spaceman  Spiff  04:44, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Tamil Nadu state assembly election, 1967
Some suggestions awaithing you on the talk as requested India noticeboard. -- Redtigerxyz Talk 16:00, 20 November 2009 (UTC)


 * thank you so much. appreciate it. will look into it later today. -- Car Tick  16:41, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Pictures in 1967 state assembly election
Aren't the pictures for the leaders under public domain, since its been more than 60 years since the image was taken? --Harish89 (talk) 05:30, 25 November 2009 (UTC)


 * yes, If we can prove it was taken 60 years before. so far, I havent seen anything. -- Car Tick  12:53, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

AWB
Looks like you're going full on with AWB. Have you tried creating pages yet? When you do, let me know and give me an AWB for dummies version :) I've got a bunch of first-class cricketers I need to create. cheers. - Spaceman  Spiff  21:21, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
 * i love the tool. too bad i realised its usefulness very late almost when I was done with my current project. let us see what will come next. I still have to try how to use it for new pages creation. will let you know. thanks. -- Car Tick  23:29, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

re dyk hook for Sathyavani Muthu
At dyk hook for Sathyavani Muthu, I could not find the hook information in the source given. Could you point it out? Thanks! — mattisse (Talk) 18:24, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I have added this clarification in the hook - The citation says "It (admk) was the first Dravidian party to join power actively when its representatives Satyavani Muthu and Bala Pazhanoor were inducted into the Charan Singh ministry three decades ago in 1979." In Tamil Nadu politics, non-congress parties are all Dravidian parties and in 1979, ADMK became the first non congress Tamil Nadu party to join the Union Government. ergo. Satyavani Muthu and Bala Pazhanoor are the first two non INC members from TN to serve as an Union Ministers in India--Sodabottle (talk) 18:36, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks Sodabottle. -- Car Tick  19:50, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

karuna old
It was just a cropped image of File:AnnaMKMGR.jpg. They have info of it on that file.--Harish89 (talk) 03:11, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
 * thanks Harish. i should have known. -- Car Tick  03:23, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

CR formula
Your comments and suggestions are welcome on this article. Thanks Wiki San Roze†αLҝ 09:54, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks mate :) Wiki San Roze†αLҝ 14:18, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
 * sweeping political changes are hard to be choreographed and it is often forced upon us. foretellers are generally not appreciated by the contemporaries and even ridiculed and sometimes, threatened. -- Car Tick  15:28, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Help with cats
Can you help me with adding cats for C. R. formula. You are pretty good with cats (I obviously don't mean the cats that meow!)as far as I can see. Thanks Wiki San Roze†αLҝ 07:40, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
 * what about Category:Partition of India? -- Car Tick  12:48, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Anymore you can think of? Wiki San Roze</b><i style="color:green;">†αLҝ</i> 13:13, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
 * cant think of any. i wouldnt add any other category related to Indian Independence movement. wondering if there are any categories for Independence movement related events specifically from Tamil Nadu. -- Car Tick  15:53, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

satyamurthi
we have two articles for satyamurthi - Sathyamurthy and S. Satyamurti. which one should go?--Sodabottle (talk) 08:30, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Sathyamurthy should stay as it appears to have more referenced info. The article can be moved to S. Sathyamurthy later. -- Car Tick  13:06, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Tamil Nadu politician stubs
have been created. I've added the first one to some articles based on categories, can you and Sodabottle take a look and add the other two, as well as the first one? I'm not sure what all lists you have, but if you do, then it's an AWB task. Merry Christmas. cheers. - Spaceman  Spiff  16:31, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
 * TamilNadu-politician-stub
 * India-PMK-politician-stub
 * India-MDMK-politician-stub


 * thanks for letting me know. just Category:Tamil Nadu politicians and all sub categories, specifically : . Wish you a Merry Christmas. -- Car Tick  17:18, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

tn template
shall we add a politics sub division to the state of tamil nadu template? and add it to all election related articles? 


 * good idea. go for it. -- Car Tick  03:37, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

A. Asokan
how many articles in your opinion an article has to be linked from in order not to be an orphan. --<FONT FACE="Benguiat Bk BT"  Color="##003399">Car</FONT> Tick  02:39, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
 * The fact that the article is an orphan is not based on my opinion, but on official Wikipedia policy. Fewer than three non-redirect, article incoming links. While the two incoming links are most likely sufficient, at least one more would be useful. Then the tag can be removed. Feel free to contact me again if you have any more questions. You might also try WP:ORPHAN. -Ryan (My Page)(Talk) 02:52, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

it is linked to Tamil Nadu legislative assembly election, 2001, Tiruvarur (State Assembly Constituency) and Tamil Nadu legislative assembly election, 1996. -- Car Tick  03:02, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
 * My apologies, I see. The tag has been removed. Ryan ([[User Talk:Ryan|Talk) 03:17, 5 January 2010 (UTC)


 * I would say two or more articles should be enough. just my opinion. -- Car Tick 

Racism in India
I don't know but it looked to me as a vandalism form a shared IP--Bigsuperindia (talk) 01:17, 11 January 2010 (UTC)


 * that is not enough to revert someone's edit. -- Car Tick  01:18, 11 January 2010 (UTC)


 * a discussion on the fate of this article is ongoing. Comments welcome! --RegentsPark (sticks and stones) 17:56, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Hi
Check out my reply here. Cheers.- The Enforcer <sub style="color:red; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Office of the secret service 06:23, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

Dravidian parties
Can you comment on this please? <b style="color:orange;">Wiki San Roze</b><i style="color:green;">†αLҝ</i> 11:49, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Government=Country?
Hi CarTick. Just a quick question. I bumped into this which said India had initially, under Indira Gandhi[4][5]and later under Rajiv Gandhi, began to sympathize …. Here I reckon we have to read this as India n union government had initially, under Indira Gandhi[4][5]and later under Rajiv Gandhi, began to sympathize… rather than India n people had initially, under Indira Gandhi[4][5]and later under Rajiv Gandhi, began to sympathize …. Is there any norm that equates the ruling government to the country itself? I'm not trying to be fussy, but just plain curious. <b style="color:orange;">Wiki San Roze</b><i style="color:green;">†αLҝ</i> 08:59, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
 * BTW why is does your user space say that you are an MLA? Are you? <b style="color:orange;">Wiki San Roze</b><i style="color:green;">†αLҝ</i> 12:54, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
 * well, it clearly can mean both. you can change it to Indian Government since we dont know if Indian people sympathised really. By the way, MLA? where did you see that??? -- Car  Tick  13:41, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
 * In the bottom of your page (and also listed in Category:Tamil Nadu MLAs). I reckon it should have been added by accident. <b style="color:orange;">Wiki San Roze</b><i style="color:green;">†αLҝ</i> 14:43, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
 * that is unbelieveable. funny.. found it, it is this message. -- Car Tick  14:57, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Take home lesson: You will have to displace at least one colon (pun intended) to be an MLA in TN. ;) <b style="color:orange;">Wiki San Roze</b><i style="color:green;">†αLҝ</i> 15:05, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

-- Car Tick  15:09, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Madras State legislative assembly election, 1967
This article has been reviewed at WP:GAN and is on hold pending revisions. See the review here. WTF? (talk) 04:35, 17 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Thank u very much. I am very busy the next couple of days. i will work on ur suggestions afterwards. -- Car Tick  04:49, 17 February 2010 (UTC)


 * I will look into it cartick--Sodabottle (talk) 04:57, 17 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks Soda. I am glad somebody finally reviewed the article. had totally forgotten. -- Car Tick  05:02, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Would a genealogy tree ...
.. something like this be of any use? Or is it an overkill? <b style="color:orange;">Wiki San Roze</b><i style="color:green;">†αLҝ</i> 11:03, 12 March 2010 (UTC)


 * what a great idea. please go for it. we could add it in all related parties articles. -- Car Tick  11:57, 12 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Second that. That is the best idea i have heard about in months :-)--Sodabottle (talk) 13:11, 12 March 2010 (UTC)


 * please remember to include Self-respect movement as well. -- Car Tick  13:46, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks guys. I will work on that soon. May be parties and movements can have different colours. I will have to revisit the dates and events. It might be a bit confusing on what parties actually could be included in the chart. We will learn as we progress. Cheers <b style="color:orange;">Wiki San Roze</b><i style="color:green;">†αLҝ</i> 15:03, 12 March 2010 (UTC)


 * we will discuss that. -- Car Tick  16:12, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Officially stuck! Not sure if have to have all parties listed in the template. TR's hop-in and hop-out stuff would complicate it a lot. <b style="color:orange;">Wiki San Roze</b><i style="color:green;">†αLҝ</i> 18:49, 12 March 2010 (UTC)


 * next can be 1996 ADMK split and birth of MGR ADMK, later merger with BJP.--Sodabottle (talk) 19:19, 12 March 2010 (UTC)


 * replied on the talk page of the template. -- Car Tick  19:21, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Does this look alright? <b style="color:orange;">Wiki San Roze</b><i style="color:green;">†αLҝ</i> 22:59, 12 March 2010 (UTC)


 * I was just looking at it. looks great. Did you use information from wikipedia? the details may need to be double checked, i am not saying there are necessarily any mistakes. -- Car Tick  23:01, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, most information are made consistent with Wikipedia entries. It might be wrong in some cases, but its not a deal to sort that out as and when we get the info. BTW, the entire tree looks too long and may not fit into any article when we think about it. A picture like File:St_Thomas_Christians_divisions.png might be a better idea, although it can't be have links to specific entries. <b style="color:orange;">Wiki San Roze</b><i style="color:green;">†αLҝ</i> 14:40, 13 March 2010 (UTC)


 * you are right. it can become a stand alone article or fit into Dravidian parties at the least. on the other hand, if we can convert it into an image file, we could add it everywhere we want. christian divisions file looks like a good model. but will take some of your time. -- Car Tick  15:50, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Kongu Nadu
Hi! Just check out this article. I can't even make what it is about. Is it about Kongu Nadu or the Kongu Vellala Gounder community? I understand that someone is upto vigorous casteist propaganda. And there are no published, credible references.- The Enforcer <sub style="color:red; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Office of the secret service 16:40, 15 March 2010 (UTC)


 * you are right. the whole thing is unreferenced crap. but the article itself can stay and hopefully somebody will take care of it. by the way, glad to see you around. -- Car Tick  18:58, 15 March 2010 (UTC)


 * No, I am not calling for it's deletion. I think you have mistaken me here. Someone has been injecting propaganda about a particular community in an article which concerns a region. Now, the stuff present in the article is unrelated to the title of the article.- The Enforcer <sub style="color:red; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Office of the secret service 01:06, 16 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Not the first, not the last to get filled with casteist codswallop. Stubbing was probably the best action. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  02:41, 16 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Ravi, I did not misunderstand you. I just thought it would be better and easier to build it anew. -- Car Tick  04:00, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Reliable source???
Hi! I just came across this edit of yours. Please check the source. The book you provided as source uses content taken from an earlier version of this very Wikipedia article. See - The Enforcer <sub style="color:red; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Office of the secret service 04:48, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

I hope you notice the "[WP]" at the end.- The Enforcer <sub style="color:red; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Office of the secret service 04:49, 16 March 2010 (UTC)


 * that s a shame. -- Car Tick  12:33, 16 March 2010 (UTC)


 * General rule, avoid all Icon Group and Alphascript Publishing as they are just printouts of Wikipedia articles. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  15:01, 16 March 2010 (UTC)


 * ok. didnt know that. -- Car Tick  15:07, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

AWB help
Hi, SpacemanSpiff suggested I ask you, since you can run AWB: when/if you have some time, could you take all the articles in Category:Carnatic Ragas and remove Category:Carnatic music and Category:Ragas from them? Not very important, and I'll probably get to it myself eventually, but it would help. :-) Regards, Shreevatsa (talk) 22:18, 26 March 2010 (UTC)


 * sure. lemme try. -- Car Tick  23:56, 26 March 2010 (UTC)


 * little confused. dont wanna be making mistake. i removed Category:Carnatic music from two articles already. I will go ahead remove from Category:Ragas as well. but pls confirm with me this is what you wanted. -- Car Tick  00:20, 27 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Yup, that's correct. is part of  and, so the articles should only belong to the Carnatic ragas category. cheers. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  00:23, 27 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Shreevatsa, AutoWikiBrowser is pretty easy to install and operate. i will be happy to help you with ur questions. -- Car Tick  00:48, 27 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your help! What you did was exactly what was needed. I'm not on Windows, so to run AWB I need(ed) to start VMWare which tends to run slowly these days, so I was hesitant to do it... but I've got it running now, thanks for the suggestion. :-) Shreevatsa (talk) 06:22, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Note
Ncmvocalist (talk) 05:48, 11 April 2010 (UTC)


 * if u read the post carefully, you would have noticed that I have given up on my attempt. Besides, I disagree with you that we need the consent of the wider wikipedia community. As far as i can tell, he is not under any ban or block. -- Car Tick  17:53, 11 April 2010 (UTC)


 * You don't seem to be getting it. If you considered I did read it carefully, you'd realise I'd paid most particular attention to where you said "unless i get more positive responses." [emphasis added] We haven't often set up an initiative to welcome back other (often more) prolific contributors who retired from the project, if ever - if we did, there might not have been an issue here. But it doesn't seem likely, given the wider community's extremely dim view on this issue, and you did not disclose such material facts, despite being aware of them. Also, the wider community has not ever blocked or banned an account who is so inactive as far as I'm aware - the community's refusal to take moot actions does not mean that there are no issues with an editor returning. I have no view on your proposal with respect to Nichalp, but it's not so much a consent issue, as it is avoiding needless controversial drama for the WikiProject (noticeboard). I have no idea why you didn't/don't feel ready to approach the wider community, but I do hope you'll put some more thought into your future comments. In any case, given that you seem to have clarified that you have given up on your attempt altogether, and the "unless" clause appears to be poorly chosen, I'll collapse my criticism also. Ncmvocalist (talk) 11:26, 12 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Remember he was never blocked. It was only his sock who was blocked. personally, i dont care if Nichalp gets back or not. I dont think u read my post properly, as far as i can tell, u just read it now and are trying to defend yourself with some lame excuse. why should "unless" bother you much, will you have been concerned if more people responded positively? since he is not banned, i dont think a wider community discussion is necessary. I wouldnt be worried about drama as every such issue in wikipedia has always attracted more or less drama. it is a bad idea you closed the discussion before allowing others to participate or let the discussion become stale. -- Car Tick  12:57, 12 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Oh I have no doubt you wouldn't care about drama - that much is clear from your poor handling of this entire matter, and your mindbogglingly bad faith assumption about lame excuses that seems to be begging for an uncivil response. You're still not getting it, and I hope it's merely because I didn't give you enough time to let it sink in - if not, and, you're still going to be hell bent on learning it the hard way one day, then I bid you good luck! Bye, Ncmvocalist (talk) 15:54, 12 April 2010 (UTC)


 * trolling? thought i have been responding to ... in my own page. poor handling? unilaterally closing a discussion and supremely "judgemental" collapsing? -- Car  Tick  16:02, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Madras Presidency
Could you please help me re-write the lead?? I am planning to nom the article for a GA sometime next week.- The Enforcer <sub style="color:red; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Office of the secret service 07:17, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

WP:AWB usage
Hi, Pls help on the usage of AWB for correcting redirects. Pls refer to here and here. — Thaejas (talk) 06:17, 28 April 2010 (UTC)


 * I have never fixed redirects using AWB. for some reason, I am not able to login to my AWB. But generally, you are rigtht, you need to save your changes. -- Car Tick  13:16, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

Hi, Thanks for the reply. Can you pls tell me how to move pages (articles) to new titles using AWB? The Move button in Start tab is not enabled in the software. Is this feature available only for admins? If so, then we need to update the user manual accly.—Thaejas (talk) 09:03, 1 May 2010 (UTC)


 * I dont see how AWB can be useful for moving pages. -- Car Tick  14:22, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

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 * retire from wikipedia. of course, but, why did you have to ask me? -- Car Tick  20:57, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Current political leaders from TN
Hi Cartick,

Hope all is well. Been a while since I really acted on something serious on here. I am not sure what is the current priority going on with you and our precious asset (Sodabottle). I have a feeling that the state of articles on current TN politicians are really bad. Given that the current ones get more readers, shouldn't we sort that out, atleast to a near GA? <b style="color:orange;">Wiki San Roze</b><i style="color:green;">†αLҝ</i> 08:46, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Hee hee. I am taking a voluntary break from politics in wikipedia :-). Concentrating on Literature and History instead. We had a plan to move from elections to legislatures to parties and then on to biographies. Currently only elections, legislatures and Justice Party have been done. DMK/ADMK is the next choice. I plan to return to politics after the semmozhi maanadu (where hopefully i will get more pictures of current leaders and convince beauracrats to open up public information archive to wikipedia).--Sodabottle (talk) 08:59, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
 * The plan to biographies last was to gather the low hanging fruit first - elections are easy; legislatures easier, parties tough and Biographies are downright nasty (atleast to me) :-).--Sodabottle (talk) 09:00, 3 June 2010 (UTC)


 * How have u been. well, just using my spare time with articles that dont need much thinking. planning to finish two more lists, Birds of Tamil Nadu and Chennai. But I am willing to work with you on the articles you and Sodabottle outlined. Let us decide on one and start. I would choose MK to begin with, but i am open.


 * To sodabottle, please take as many as photos as possible, even if you dont know who it is. we can figure out later. [[Image:Smile.png|20px]] i created a lot of MLA stubs and i will be happy to fill half of them with photos. -- Car Tick  12:35, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah taking photographs is a good thing. I wasted my last stay at Chepauk campus and being stuck in trafic. BTW: I wish they had some links on the home page of semmozhi maanadu. <b style="color:orange;">Wiki San Roze</b><i style="color:green;">†αLҝ</i> 16:16, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

List of birds of Tamil Nadu
CarTick:

Nice job on your recent new work List of birds of Tamil Nadu. Thanks for your note pointing out the discrepancy on number of Tamil Nadu bird species. I got the number 454 from: Tamil Nadu Forest Department Where they got it I don't know. How many species are in M. A. Badshah, Checklist of birds of Tamil Nadu? Perhaps User:Shyamal, Wikipedia resident authority on South Indian birds can give some clarification? Marcus334 (talk) 16:30, 13 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Badshah seems to have a smaller number. dont remember well. But this article talks about approximately 500 species. They probably got that number from Forest department website. apparently, Ratnam's book seems incomplete. But I am going to assume getting an accurate number is not going to be busy. -- Car Tick  19:39, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination of List of birds of Chennai
Hello! Your submission of List of birds of Chennai at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! <font style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"> Intelligent  sium  00:18, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

About political parties in India
Hello, CarTick
 * I would kindly draw your attention about List of political parties in India and List of recognised political parties in India. User Soman and User Viplovecomm are reverting my edits because they think that in India there isn't two national political parties like INC & BJP, as a result they had put other smaller political parties like CPI(M), RJD or SP into national category. But in my view INC & BJP are the two parties who achieved their national status more of all they ruled in India but my friend user aren't agreeing with please take a part of this complex discussion.-- Kkm010 as&#169; 10:33, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I understand the spirit of your argument. but, by definition of what a national party is in India (just vaguely remember, couldnt find it now), CPM is definitely one and i believe other mentioned parties are too. u dont have much chance winning this, my honest opinion. -- Car Tick  12:31, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
 * By national i mean a party whose dominance is across every states and it has ruled for complete 5 years in center level. Whereas parties like CPI, RJD or SP they failed to complete there tenure in 1998 more over there presence are very limited take RJD whose political influence is only in bihar and ruled for many year. Therefore pls come to the talk page and discuss about this complex issue. I wonder how parties like NCP or BSP got there national tag. It is utterly ridiculous.-- Kkm010 as&#169; 14:51, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Regarding "I wonder how parties like NCP or BSP got there national tag", that's a question to direct the the Election Commission of India. 'National Party' has a specific meaning in Indian politics, it is a formal recognition granted by the Election Commission. That the criteria should be "ruled for complete 5 years" is entirely arbitrary. Why 5 years, why not ten years? As per size, CPI(M) has 800,000+ members and governs 3 states with a combined population of over 110 million in three separate regions of the country. That is not small, by any standards. --Soman (talk) 15:18, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
 * KKM, your criteria is arbitrary. Even going by it, the BJP has never governed at centre for five years - it was the NDA coalition that ruled not BJP alone. As Soman points out, ECI gives the "national party" based on If a political party is treated as a recognised political party in four or more States, it shall be known as a `National Party’ throughout the whole of India, but only so long as that political party continues to fulfill thereafter the conditions for recognition in four or more States on the results of any subsequent general election either to the House of the People or to the Legislative Assembly of any State. As ECI is the governing body here why should we differ and invent a whole set of criteria on our own?--Sodabottle (talk) 15:41, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

This link defines the criteria for recognised regional party. I am wondering what are the four states in which RJP, BSP and NCP satisfy this criteria. -- Car Tick  19:45, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
 * RJD fulfills criteria (A) in the Lok Sabha election in Bihar (4 MPs elected), criteria (B) in Manipur (6.67% of votes in last state election), NCP fulfills criteria (A) in the Lok Sabha election in Maharashtra and Meghalaya, criteria (A) in the last Arunachal Pradesh state election, criteria (B) in Manipur (8% in last state election). --Soman (talk) 20:25, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Look guys if think I'm talking anything bullshit, well whatever u wish pursue it. But its baffling and appalling that parties like RJD and BSP got there national tag. Anyway thanks to all who involve in this discussion. It looks everybody has finally agreed to put all the parties national parties.Thanks Cheer-up-- Kkm010 as&#169; 14:51, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
 * less frustration please KKM. We win some. we lose some.--Sodabottle (talk) 14:56, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
 * UR right! I'm not frustrated. Its hard for me to digest.-- Kkm010 as&#169; 15:45, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree with you KKM. it is ridiculous how these little parties with no broader national agenda (other than maybe to become Prime Minister one day) can be called national parties. but that is the way it is. it is not your mistake. take it easy. -- Car Tick  15:51, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Thank You
Cartick,

Thank You for theThe Indian Barnstar of National Merit which I only noticed yesterday. I have been off wikipedia for a couple months working on my seasonal business. Do you live in Tamil Nadu? I hope to go back soon.-Marcus334 (talk) 13:04, 22 June 2010 (UTC)


 * you are very welcome. you deserve it. I am from Tamil Nadu but live in USA now. -- Car Tick  13:10, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
 * If You ever come to Cape Cod, Please come join me for a sailboat ride in Hyannis.-Marcus334 (talk) 13:03, 23 June 2010 (UTC)


 * wow. that sounds like a great invite. Thank you so much. well, i had a look at your Inn website and all the great things about you in your profile. The bicylce ride from Luxembourg to India is beyond belief. -- Car Tick  13:49, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

June 2010
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 * i am just happy to be reminded again why you can never replace us humans. -- Car Tick  01:57, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Congratulations for being Templated. Now you have seen everything in wikipedia :-)--Sodabottle (talk) 04:00, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * yea. seen it all. :) -- Car Tick  04:04, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Help Pls
Hi Karthick, I'm trying to wikify all the village/town level articles. I dont know how to break a lengthy list into two parallel columns of list. Pls help me. Thanks in advance! Raj 6644 (தமிழன்)  04:50, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Take a look at this. Personally i haven't used it, but looks easy to use.--Sodabottle (talk) 06:43, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * not sure. are u looking for Help:List. -- Car Tick  01:51, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Exactly Cartick!. Thanks for that. Raj 6644 (தமிழன்)  05:16, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Re: your message about providing a reference for the edit from this IP address in the article on S. Gurusamy
Sorry CarTick, I only got this computer secondhand in march or so of this year. Sorry for not replying to you message before now, I just saw it now. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.71.107.59 (talk) 19:45, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * no problem. I would be glad if you would get an account and help us out here. -- Car Tick  01:53, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Request for Review - Brahmadesam (Villupuram)
As you are from TN, i felt it's better to approach you & Sodabottle.


 * Can you tell me how can i redirect search result of Brahmadesam to Brahmadesam_(disambiguation). Because whenever i type as Brahmadesam it is straight away directed to Brahmadesam of Ambasamudram Taluk of Thirunelveli District in Tamilnadu which is not supposed to happen.
 * Can you review the article & provide rating for it. As it is a article on village who's name has not reached media, i had lot of difficulty in gathering references for the article. I have put my best to bring the article to this stage. Pls help me in this regard. Thank you once again!! Raj 6644 (தமிழன்)  05:23, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

PP for Periyar
They reject requests for page protection unless IP vandalism is more frequent. Else they classify this is a content issue--Sodabottle (talk) 14:29, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
 * i kind of thought about this, one of the reasons i never had pursued it further. it is unfortunate that this is the ways things are. -- Car Tick  16:25, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

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No Abusive words Please
Please do not use abusive words such as 'nonsense' in the discussions.I am Telugu from TN border. All know respected Periyar was proud of his heritage. Be polite like him. Please do not alter the facts. Do not try to take shelter under protected articles to push your POV. It will not improve Wikipedia. வனக்கம் (greetings) 76.212.15.82 (talk) 18:48, 31 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Cartik- Please read the earlier discussions before you undo, Cheers76.212.15.82 (talk) 19:36, 31 July 2010 (UTC)


 * i dont see you make any sensible argument other than display some typical indescencion. -- Car Tick  01:39, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Wild Animals of India
I've a book titled "The book of Indian Animals" by SH Prater which contains useful information about many animals of India including rare species like The Nilgiri Langur,Golden Langur,Clouded Leopard etc.Plus I've some good sources by renowned authors like EP Gee.Since you have done a good job regarding birds,I consider taking your help in improving these articles.

Raghavan(Talk) 04:33, 4 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Thank you so much. I would really like that. I am very glad we have an editor from India interested in animals. pls remember List of mammals of India exists already. I am not sure if the number of mammals found in Tamil Nadu would justify a similarly titled List of mammals of Tamil Nadu though it will be very useful. Regardless, any help from you improving articles about animals found in India will be much appreciated.


 * Besides, I would ask a favour from you. typical wikipedia style favour, no commitment to delivery required. List of birds of Tamil Nadu would like to have more pictures. Even some of the common birds are missing. I am not in India and K. Mohan Raj has been the soul contributor so far. -- Car Tick  12:10, 4 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Will get them,no problem about that.

Raghavan(Talk) 12:33, 4 August 2010 (UTC)


 * As a start I've added some information to Indian Giant Squirrel.However,I'm not able to find SH Prater's book on the net.I can only add information with my personal copy of the book.-Raghavan(Talk) 02:51, 10 August 2010 (UTC)


 * looks good. -- Car Tick  13:48, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
 * CarTick, tell me which birds are easy to get pictures of (and where) and I'll get some next month. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  16:48, 10 August 2010 (UTC)


 * well, if you could take any picture of any bird which you come across, should be fine. we could identify them later. Red Hills Lake, Chembarambakkam Lake, Pallikaranai, Adyar Theosophical society are some of the hot spots. thanks and enjoy your trip to India. -- Car Tick  19:48, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

National Waterway 4
Hi Karthick, i have created a article titled National Waterway 4 (NW-4). I have just posted a Draft article on WP. I request your Comments / Feedback to improve as well as to make the article live on WP. With the Response i'll focus on 5 Other National Waterways in India. Thank you. Raj 6644 (தமிழன்)  07:58, 13 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Raj. i like the article. I am positive the article itself is good to go in the main page. I have some issues though. same information repeats in different sections. also, the article seems to have a lot of extraneous information. I have the following suggestions to name a few.

It also needs to be clarified what is the use of a waterway which runs mostly along the coast especially between Pondicherry and Pedaganjam. -- Car Tick  11:19, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
 * 1) Details of NW 1-5 in Evolution section is not necessary. it can be moved to the main waterways article
 * 2) Geography and Structure can be merged into a single section as "Route"
 * 3) Traffic and Natural barrier can be brought under Potential benefits header
 * Me too like this very much :-)--Sodabottle (talk) 13:43, 13 August 2010 (UTC)


 * If I am not wrong this is the same canal that supplies Chennai its drinking water as part of Telugu Ganga Project.-Raghavan(Talk) 14:20, 13 August 2010 (UTC).
 * Yeah, it was built by the Governor, the Duke of Buckingham in 1878 to tackle the famine of Madras people. Check out Buckingham Canal to know more. Raj 6644 (தமிழன்)  04:25, 18 August 2010 (UTC)


 * I am not sure. the main reason these waterways being developed is for transport. -- Car Tick  00:22, 14 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Hi Guys. Sorry for the delay in reply.I was out of station. Karthick thanks for all your suggestion and i will consider all those for fine tuning the article. Regarding your question of Why Waterway along the Coast.
 * Distance between Rajahmundry & Kakinada Port (Nearest Port) - 64 k.m
 * Distance between Rajahmundry & Godavari River (Nearest Waterway) - 0.2 k.m
 * Distance between Singareni Collieries Company Coal Mines in Adilabad District, Khamam District & Vishakapatnam / Kakinada Port - More than 500 k.m
 * Distance between Singareni Collieries Company Coal Mines & Godavari River (Nearest Waterway) - Less than 10k.m
 * Distance Between ITC Bhadrachalam Paper mill & Kakinada Port (Nearest Port)- More than 500 k.m
 * Distance Between ITC Bhadrachalam Paper mill & Godavari River (Nearest Waterway)- less than 5k.m
 * Similarly scale the length of potential business hub mentioned in the article to Nearest Port & nearest Waterway whcih will answer the question why Coastal Waterway.
 * In terms of cost, setting up a New port (Minor/Captive port)costs between 800 Crores to 2000 Crores per Port. If we talk about a Major port then the cost will be 2 to 3 times higher.Cost of Setting up Minor Port
 * As per the Detailed Project Report of WAPCOS, cost for setting 12 terminals will be 242 Crores. Total Development cost of the entire stretch of NW-4 including widening of canal, Dredging, Excavation, Bank protection, Construction & Repair of locks, Modification of bridges & roads, Navigational aids and setting up of IWT terminals will be around 1500 Crores only.
 * Hi Raghavan, this canal is not the one which supplies Chennai its drinking water. The condition of this canal is really pathetic. This Photo of Buckingham Canal near Central Station tells you whether the water is Potable or not. Also check out 1920 Photo of Buckingham Canal. Raj 6644 (தமிழன்)  07:02, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh Ok,This must be a link between the Coastal Andhra districts and Chennai constructed during the British Period.-Raghavan(Talk) 03:52, 18 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Raj, thanks for all the info. I didnt know Singareni Collieries Company Coal Mines is that influential? -- Car Tick  13:19, 18 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Singareni Colleries Company is significantly notable company in the Coal Industry which explores Coal reserves in four districts of AP. The company is like Indian Oil company in Oil Industry. Check out the details here. following are the details of the company.
 * Employee strength - 68,451
 * Total number of Mines - Under Ground - 36 : Opencast - 14
 * Production in 2009-10 - 50.42 Million tonnes
 * Think about the transportation of 50 Million tonnes of Coal. Which one is Environment friendly, less expensive - Road (or) Railways (or) Waterways. --- Raj 6644 (தமிழன்)  05:08, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I request Sodato participate in the discussion and put his views across the table on the above explanation on the Coastal Waterway. Also i request Soda for any suggestions to improve notability of the article. Raj 6644 (தமிழன்)  09:13, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
 * forgot about this. Article looks good. needs several bouts of copy editing though - i have already began the task.--Sodabottle (talk) 03:53, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok! I ll try my best on CE. Raj 6644 (தமிழன்)  11:57, 23 August 2010 (UTC)