User talk:Carlis

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Proposed deletion of Carlton Pennypacker


The article Carlton Pennypacker has been proposed for deletion because under Wikipedia policy, all biographies of living persons created after March 18, 2010, must have at least one source that directly supports material in the article.

If you created the article, please don't take offense. Instead, consider improving the article. For help on inserting references, see Referencing for beginners or ask at Help desk. Once you have provided at least one reliable source, you may remove the prod blp tag. Please do not remove the tag unless the article is sourced. If you cannot provide such a source within ten days, the article may be deleted, but you can when you are ready to add one. –Grondemar 19:31, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Re: Michigan left
According to WP:LEAD, the lead section of an article should not have any information not already present in the body of the article. As such, the lead is a summary of the article. That's the primary reason I moved your addition to Michigan left because you introduced new information to the lead only. Additionally, I feel that we need a citation for what you added, which is why I added the citation needed tag.  Imzadi 1979  →   17:51, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
 * A) Are you an engineer? B) The part I added is relevant to the article in the FIRST Paragraph! C) https://static.tti.tamu.edu/tti.tamu.edu/documents/430-2.pdf D) The Michigan Left is dangerous, why do you defend it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Carlis (talk • contribs) 15:05, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I've moved your comments to here since they're in reply to my comments above, and otherwise you've separated the discussion. Additionally, you didn't sign your original posting, so you'll want to remember to do that in the future.
 * As for your comments, as I've explained, the lead section of an article is not supposed to contain any information not present in the body of an article, per WP:LEAD. That's why I moved it to the body of the article.
 * Can you point me to the page(s) in that report? I'm looking through, but there are 144 pages and I don't have the time to read the whole document to find what it is you want to cite. (I'm also unsure of the provenance of that document since it dates back to at least the 1960s; the Michigan State Highway Department was renamed 50 years ago, yet that report cites them under the old name.)
 * I think you're overstating the importance of your desired addition, especially as to its position in the article. As a matter of practice, since a Michigan left is a signal-controlled intersection, traffic turning right from the cross road is crossing an otherwise unused set of traffic lanes to reach the crossover to complete the left turn. In the opposite direction, traffic proceeds directly across the arterial from the cross over to the right-turn lane when there is a break in traffic. In many cases, the crossovers have their own signals as well to supplement the main signal. So while I'm not an engineer, I am a Michigan resident who is quite familiar with the intersection design.  Imzadi 1979  →   17:39, 24 January 2018 (UTC)

New addition to Michigan left
Let's discuss what you're trying to add to the article and see if we can't write something together that makes sense.

First thing first, where is this NHTSA study? That would be a good starting point for our collaboration.  Imzadi 1979  →   01:09, 7 December 2023 (UTC)