User talk:Carlossuarez46/Archive 6

Technomancer Press
I'm not here to protest a deletion, but I do have a few questions / comments. I am familiar with the company, and I'm not a part of the company (I have interacted with them in and out of a convention or two). I personally think that they are notable. The real problem with the article (according to the AFD) was that it was a company advertisement? I think I could rewrite the article with a more objective perspective. Would I have your support on that? Would it be possible for me to have access to the original deleted article (history) in order to facilitate the creation of a new article? McKay (talk) 14:42, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Naval Air Station
I just saw your !vote in the CFD for Category:United States Navy air stations. You might want to take a look at Talk:Naval Air Station, where there's a vigorous debate underway over the proposed renaming of the article to Naval air station. Cgingold (talk) 21:49, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Burma
Before you create any more stubs please see Abaw and copy the infobox and add the coordinates -this will give it a locator map ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 21:52, 3 April 2008 (UTC) AND —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.29.81.65 (talk) 19:22, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Tamara Davies
Please look through the history of the page, and then at this noticeboard discussion. As far as I can see, we have a minor, but IMHO likely notable actress here, who's page has been BLP hatchet-stubbed. (And likely properly so.) The fact that it was chopped down to a stub does not make her less notable. The page needs major work, likely rebuilding from scratch, but I don't think it should be deleted. - TexasAndroid (talk) 18:06, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Wrestling video game AfD
I just wanted to let you know that the page you placed for AfD is a duplicate of WWE SmackDown vs. Raw 2009, which is a decent article. Is it possible just to change the page you nominated for AfD into a redirect? GaryColemanFan (talk) 02:41, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

SPAM
Hello. I dont recollect tagging any recent article as spam. Could you tell me which article you are referring to? THanks. Prashanthns (talk) 17:22, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
 * !! I checked \|that article, but dont see any tag left by me in the last 50 edits! Could this be a mistake? Prashanthns (talk) 17:26, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for rving that. I see it now. It was on the redirect page of backslash. Most obviously my mistake! This must definitely be by oversight!Was rc patrolling and must've hit the wrong link on Twinkle. Thanks again. Prashanthns (talk) 17:31, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Groove (machining)
This article is NEEDED because of all the articles linked to it A.N.D and because Tongue and groove is totally, utterly, wholy and entirerely irrelevent to those articles. So leave it so that a machinist can do his thing. Peter Horn 03:09, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

California community articles
Just wanted to let you know: many or all California counties have their own geography stubs, such as YoloCountyCA-geo-stub. Nyttend (talk) 23:04, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Trigger Happy
Woah there poncho, lets think before we pull the trigger. Hex ten (talk) 13:44, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

It seemed I missed all of it, Regards Hex ten (talk) 21:14, 17 April 2008 (UTC) GOOD

Why was my article detele
My name is Fernada, I am a historian in spanish history and had read many book. I wrote an article about Rodolfo Arismendy D' la Parra de Urzaiz y Azlor de Aragon Borbon-Parma, why was deleted, if there something I need to know thank

Fernanda —Preceding unsigned comment added by 164.68.11.4 (talk) 15:20, 18 April 2008 (UTC)


 * What article was deleted? There was never an article Rodolfo Arismendy D' la Parra de Urzaiz y Azlor de Aragon Borbon-Parma. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 18:33, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Seven Sisters
I would like to know why you deleted the article 'Seven Sisters' which was about the major law firms in Canada. This is a widely used term in the canadian legal field. You deleted it on October 2007. Jurisprudent (talk) 23:07, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Romanian communes
There points: a) I fully agree the commune articles need the additional information in them. However, my present objective is mere creation of stubs, pitiful though they may be, and whether I add more now or in three weeks' time I don't think will make a great difference. That is, I hope you don't mind my creating those stubs, given my intent to expand them. It's just that I'm after quantity rather than quality for the moment. b) The GEONet links come up as gibberish on my computer; do they work on yours? c) If I may, I'd advise you not to link to or create articles on Romanian villages (as opposed to communes). The reasons are alluded to here and here, but the basic idea is that a) as they have no official status and generally number only a few hundred residents, villages tend not to be notable; b) potential for commune stubs to develop into full-fledged articles is slim, for villages even less; c) what there is to be said about a 5-village commune can easily be said in a single article (again, generally speaking); and d) in cases (and this is the norm) where commune A has villages A,B,C,D and E, confusion is bound to arise between commune A and village A, disambiguating becomes even harder, etc. So please let's try to stick to communes only. Biruitorul (talk) 02:45, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I promise I will be adding more information to the commune stubs, but that's not my main concern; it's the village article creation that still worries me. I asked User:Dahn to weigh in, and he did; I invite you to see his post on my talk page, most of which is addressed to you. The only thing I'll add is that ro.wiki has some rather serious credibility problems and that they are not exactly a model to be emulated in every respect. Anyway, after reading Dahn's comment, please let me/us know if you're still interested in creating those 13,000 or so micro-stubs on villages. Biruitorul (talk) 01:32, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Dahn wrote a reply to you on my talk page; it may interest you. I don't mean to sound harsh, but it would be helpful if you could drop the "every village is notable" mantra for a moment and actually grapple with the arguments we're bringing forward. (Or "any little dot on a map" - by the way, have you found any maps that show Romanian villages?) The real question is: will it kill us if we don't have 13,000 micro-stubs but instead fold (ie, merge) that information into 2600 slightly longer stubs (maybe even articles) with proper redirects and everything? All we're asking is that "X is a village in Y commune, Z county, Romania" be a line in the article on Y rather than a separate article. Is that too much to ask? Biruitorul (talk) 17:49, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Paramax
Could I ask you to take another look at this AfD? I've moved the article to the appropriate title, expanded it and added a reference, which takes care of a couple of your original concerns. The combination is used differently from either drug independently and there is also a suggested effect on paracetamol's absorption by metoclopramide, which suggests an article on this topic would be useful. There is a lot more that could be added, but I'm no expert in this therapeutic area. Regards, Espresso Addict (talk) 13:22, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Perioperative Nursing
I know there was no content in Perioperative nursing, i'm working on referenced info to put up. If I put up basic headings and some summary information, is that acceptable to keep it up while i work on material for it...?

Charles evesson (talk) 05:09, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Cheers for that! Didn't know you could do that on a user page!

Charles evesson (talk) 01:09, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

James Madison Middle School (Seattle, Washington)
I'm pretty sure schools don't qualify for A7. --Closedmouth (talk) 16:15, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I really have no opinion, I just didn't think it was allowed. People seem to get so pissy when you even suggest deleting a school article, I would never have thought you could A7 one. Not that I care either way. --Closedmouth (talk) 17:20, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Hehe, we'll blame it on my lack of knowledge of the US school system and leave it at that eh :P --Closedmouth (talk) 17:25, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Bloody Sunday (1969)
I don't know if you noticed yet, but Bloody Sunday (1969) has seen a major WP:HEY job, and seems headed for a snowball keep. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 17:36, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Talk:John McCain/FAQ
You deleted this page Talk:John McCain/FAQ, but it should be undeleted. FAQ pages are okay. The mainspace page of the same name was accidentally created by Ferrylodge (and can remain deleted), but the FAQ page should be restored. Mahalo. --Ali&#39;i 17:56, 25 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I think FAQ pages may be an exception. See Talk:Evolution/FAQ for example. Mahalo. --Ali&#39;i 18:05, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

National Council on Crime and Delinquency
Please let me know why the page "National Council on Crime and Delinquency" was deleted. The article only contained information, facts and history of the organization and did not contain any copyright infringement. I would like to redo the page so that it complies, but do not understand why it was deleted. Thank you.

Nccd (talk) 22:46, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Penryn college
I have improved and referenced the article, perhaps you could take another look. Regards, Espresso Addict (talk) 18:30, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Social interaction teaching methods
Is Social interaction teaching methods article worthy? I'm not sure. - Warthog Demon  17:15, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I had my suspicions of that. Done. - Warthog Demon  17:25, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Sounds like this could be a professor or a college student. - Warthog Demon  17:31, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Benzamil
has added an infobox to Benzamil. I think the article is better now. --Eastmain (talk) 18:48, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Aqaba
Hi there. There is a discussion at Talk:Aqaba pertaining to the need for a disambig page there. You replaced the disambig with the main article without contributing to that discussion. I was wondering if you could consider reinstating the change that was made, or explaining why your solution is preferable. Two admins help was necessary to effect the change in the first place and I don't know how to restore it without making a bigger mess. Thanks.  T i a m u t talk 10:31, 2 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I'll address you comment at the talk there. Cheers.  T i a m u t talk 20:51, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

New Project
Myself and several other editors have been compiling a list of very active editors who would likely be available to help new editors in the event they have questions or concerns. As the list grew and the table became more detailed, it was determined that the best way to complete the table was to ask each potential candidate to fill in their own information, if they so desire. This list is sorted geographically in order to provide a better estimate as to whether the listed editor is likely to be active.

If you consider yourself a very active Wikipedian who is willing to help newcomers, please either complete your information in the table or add your entry. If you do not want to be on the list, either remove your name or just disregard this message and your entry will be removed within 48 hours. The table can be found at User:Useight/Highly Active, as it has yet to have been moved into the Wikipedia namespace. Thank you for your help. Useight (talk) 02:24, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Bazargan, Afghanistan
Though the article is brief, THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU for creating Bazargan, Afghanistan. You probably didn't know it, but the article was on Requested articles/Afghanistan. I am now removing it from that list. Cheers! Kingturtle (talk) 15:06, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

List of Hawaii State Symbols
It was marked as underconstruction. Oh well. I will remake it soon but take the time to add content. Sorry for any trouble. Juthani1   tcs 21:32, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Threats
Threatening to have a user banned because he disagrees with you is a violation of policy. Please respect this.

Cbsite (talk) 02:45, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Threats - Part 2
When or where did I threaten you? Which word was the threat: violation? respect? please?

And what I do with my talk page is my business - you stay off of it. Cbsite (talk) 13:10, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Burma
Could you PLEASE note that places in Burma i.e towns and villages are NOT categorized as Category:Settlements in Burma. They are classified by state e.g Category:Cities, towns and villages in Kachin State. Plase note this in future as I'm having to sort out your stubs  ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 12:39, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

How many times have I said that articles are not categorized in Settlements? Category:Cities, towns and villages in Togo is where it should be  ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 16:51, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Not intentional. But I have spoken to you many times about categorizing or adding an infobox and given that you didn't respond I took for granted you were ignoring me. WHhen somebody doesn't respond to my good intentions (given that I am trying very hard to ensure consistency with categories and goe article layout across wikipedia) I immediately assume they disagree with me, Otherwise keep up the good disamb work  ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 16:57, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

No what you are doing is fine. But I believe an infobox with a pushpin map and coordinates is helpful and easy to do given that you have added the wiki mini atlas coordinates anyway. E.g I believe that an article like Simaw is better for having the infobox and map than without. Best of intentions. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦      $1,000,000? 17:04, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Matelot, Trinidad
A tag has been placed on Matelot, Trinidad requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a very short article providing little or no context to the reader. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding  to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the article does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that a copy be emailed to you. Cheeseman Muncher (talk) 21:21, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Ethnicity/national origin category pages
Carlossuarez, I thought I better reply to your comments from WP:Cats for discussion on this here as when I add the rest of the pages I m nominating I may be preventing you from adding comments, although I m quite sure I ve said everything I think on the matter already. You might be surprised to hear that, despite human migration being a pet interest of mine, I would not be that against getting rid of these cat pages altogether but know, from my involvement with them over a few years, that it is impossible, that there is that much of a "demand" for them. therefore, I d like to see them as tidy as possible, with uniform naming. it seems clear from what I ve read of your comments you ll settle for nothing short of ridding wikip of them. but how can they be permanently barred beyond constant policing of them, which personally I m not interested in being involved in. Mayumashu (talk) 00:25, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
 * our views are miles apart, in the end. in no way do I see indicating ethnicity as racism in disguise. racism is acting upon racial differences in ways that hurt, not stating mere facts about ethnicity (stating one's nationality does not make one nationalistic either, nor are nuclear scientists to blame for the use of nuclear weapons)      trying to define one ethnicity from another is not at all a concern of ours, as wikip contributors - its the work of sociologists and other experts and ours is to report their published findings.  the same goes for the concern you raise on how far back we are to go with these (should we have them), that we all have African roots, that many Mexicans have Native American roots, as well as Spanish ones which in turn may have Arab ones, Roman ones, etc. - for whichever links are made, of a person's article page to a cat page for a particular descent, or a cat page to a supercat page, say Category:Native Americans as a subcat of Category:People of Asian descent, there needs to be a source (or two).  Provision of sources, like everything, control how far back one can go with indicating ethn./nat. origin. Mayumashu (talk) 02:26, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
 * No, not a lack a sources for out of Africa. I m talking about the other links, that an American of Mexican descent would typically only be linked to the one category page, and would rarely be linked to the page for being of Spanish descent and almost never to Arab or Roman descent pages because there would be no source available to substantiate these claims (as true as they may or may not be).  And no we wouldn t add African descent links to all biographies - we should link Category:People of Asian descent and Category:People of European descent, and the cat page that collects all native people of the Americas and their descendents, which in theory would collect all people of recent non-African descent to Category:People of African descent with a note and cited source links/publication details.


 * Classifying by ethnicity/national origin has little to actually do with classifying by race, as racial makeup is far less of a factor in the determination of nearly all ethnic groups (a noteble expect being African-American) than does shared cultural experience, as seen in linguistic and to a lesser extent religious aspects to culture. Even when it does involve classifying by race, its as far from racisim as your and my views on this matter, as it unfortunately still very much appears that they are Mayumashu (talk) 18:10, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
 * none - those of, in particular, partial ethnicity share virtually no shared experience due to their ethnic link. stating one's ethnicity is not stating that one (necessarily) shares or has shared particular experiences.  taking up the argument then the pages provide largely trivial info - I agree that they do.  the question is how trivial, and the only way this is determined here is by the discussing we do on WP:Dfordeletion, obviously.  there has not been a push to delete them, or at least for some time (and past attempts did not at all prove to be successful, obviously)  for me, if there s going to be recognition of nationality, then citizenship and ethnicity need to be equally and universally recognized and described.  My last word on it in our talk here is that burden of providing sourcing policies this, as it does everything elso on wikip.  Despite our opposing views, nothing in the way of bad feelings I hope.  Regards  Mayumashu (talk) 19:48, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

National Council on Crime and Delinquency
Hello,

You stated that you deleted the article because it was a copy of our own non-profit organization's website. I am confused as to how it can be a copyright infringement when it is our own material. I read the guidelines you suggested, and am still not sure where I went wrong. I modeled the article after other similar non-profit organization's articles. Does the content of the article need to be totally different than our website? Please help.

Nccd (talk) 18:37, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Ecotax neutrality
Hi! You recently voted to delete the Ecotaxes category on the basis that what can be considered an ecotax is POV. Since the majority vote was to delete, I think it's an indication that the Ecotax article might need some NPOV improvement. Would you help tag the POV areas so I can fix them? --Explodicle (talk) 16:36, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Crank (village)
The article consists of only one sentence "..is a village". Can you please expand it?  Otolemur crassicaudatus  (talk) 17:59, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Category:Fictional children
Would you take another look at the CFD for Category:Fictional children? My impression is that your !vote to delete was procedural (recreation of a previously deleted category). However, after an extended discussion, things have turned around dramatically, with two editors switching to Keep. Given your support for, I'm thinking that you might see the light on this one, too. :) Cgingold (talk) 20:43, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Ifat / Yifat
Carlos, gracias por tu correcciones. UnLoCode (talk) 22:29, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Category:Exonerated Soviet death sentences
I just noticed that you haven't added any further remarks since I posted my alternate renaming proposal for Category:Exonerated Soviet death sentences. You might want to take a look. Cgingold (talk) 11:49, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

CfD nomination of Category:Cities named Apamea
Category:Cities named Apamea, which you created, has been nominated for deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. older ≠ wiser 13:19, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Bere, Burkina
Thats perfect. Thanks  ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000?

Thats great thanks, Any help you can give with dabbing WikiProject Missing encyclopedic articles/Places would be very helpful indeed given that we are currently waiting for a bot to be approved to add over 1 million places. Dabbing will need doing big time and we will require several clones of yourself to accomplish it!!! ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦      $1,000,000? 21:29, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm still not certain on how I could dab Baluch.


 * Baluch,Balūch,Balkh, Afghanistan, 36, 2, 15,N, 66, 47, 17,E


 * Baluch,Balūch,Balkh, Afghanistan, 35, 38, 13,N, 67, 4, 43,E

Is it possible you could find them on a map and dab them like Baluch (5km north of Salid) for example? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦      $1,000,000? 21:33, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Bot approved: dabbing help needed
Hi there. Fritz bot has been approved at Bots/Requests for approval/FritzpollBot for filling in a possible 1.8 million articles on settlements across the world. Now dabbing needs to be done for links which aren't sorted as the bot will bypass any blue links. and I need as many people as possible to help me with WikiProject Missing encyclopedic articles/Places to prepare for the bot. If you could tackle a page or two everything counts as it will be hard to do it alone. For those problematic places with the same name in the same province, a dabbing problems page will be made to list these that can be sorted later. Thankyou  ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 12:03, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

They are drawn up like that using a bot by province or district. I'm afraid theres nothing I can do about names not being next to each other. But all we have to do is just check the links that have shown up blue to ensure they correspond to the correct article. The bot will bypass any blue links so we need to ensure that those already linked are correct  ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 18:21, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

That sounds like a good idea, perhaps discuss it with User:Fritzpoll ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 18:27, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Of course you're not wasting your time. See WikiProject Missing encyclopedic articles/Places. The instructions are for editors to leave a big green tick ✅ when asection of page has been done to other editors don't have to recheck. Wherever somebody left of with Armenia they should have left a note. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦      $1,000,000? 18:41, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi. I've created a page for those links which are problematic at we discussed the other day at WikiProject Missing encyclopedic articles/Places/Problematic naming. I wonder if we could use two ways to disamb them e.g one in brackets and the others with a comma? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦      $1,000,000? 19:42, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Still very much appreciate your work in the disamb department. Whether people kick up enough fuss to stop the bot running fully or not, these places will all be added soon enough guaranteed. Keep up the good work  ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 22:02, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

I know, I really think we need to come to some sort of decision because before you know it there will be a huge list to sort out which noone will feel like tackling. SOme places in Cambodia have more than multiple names ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 10:00, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Ray Ventura
Hi, I saw you A7'ed this article in November. I'd like to see the deleted content in hopes of having it restored; there must have been some sort of mistake, as Ventura was an important French jazz musician (see "what links here"). Chubbles (talk) 20:17, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Hola hermano
Hola hermano, tu te llamas Carlos Suárez, y yo también me llamo Carlos Suárez desde Perú, estoy contento de ver mi nombre como el tuyo, quiero saber donde te encuentras ahora. contestane en Wikipedia en Español. Un abrazo.-- Detective Carlos Suárez de la Brigada Ciber Crimen .........a su servicio  (Sección Denuncias) 15:48 4 jun 2008 (UTC)

Jelena Pandžić
Since you added the tags to this article regarding notability and tone I've done a bit of fiddling with it. Could you take another look at it and maybe offer some more specific comments. --Spondoolicks (talk) 09:20, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

"redlink dab"s?
Greetings. On my talkpage you put the following:
 * "There is a big project to create articles on all the towns and villages, and dabs are needed so that we know where to put places with the same name. I am part of that project, and you can be too. See the discussion on my talk page and on the talk pages of the others involved..."

Sorry, though, I don't follow. I understand what a redlink is, but a "redlink dab"? If you could point out an example--particularly one which you feel I've deleted--I would be appreciative. Xenophon777 (talk) 21:06, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Cooper, Gloucester County, New Jersey
The stuff in this article you created does not seem to exist. I cannot verify it with any resource, unless, this is stuff newly constructed (like within the last year). All recent overhead sat images do not show what you have described in the article —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jjeandell (talk • contribs) 22:30, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

All righty. I actually see what happened. It was an unknown IP that added that stuff. I found what they put on the other side of the county. I will remove their addition and remark. Thanks! (Jjeandell (talk) 22:50, 9 June 2008 (UTC))

Darsalam
Hi could you fill out the Darsalam dab page. Maplandia showed there must be hundred odd places in Africa with a similar name. CHeers  ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 21:17, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm afriad its ignorance, thats what it is by some people who don't realise a world is out there. One of the reasons the proposal took so long to go through was that people are scared by a high number of stubs. People believe that most of these places are "not notable" so unfortunately many places will have to be missed by the bot because they don't fit their criteria. Its gonna be pretty restrictive. I would have absolutely no objection if you were to add more places to the lists and we were to start some of them manually. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦      $1,000,000? 21:24, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

A present
A much deserved award for Mr. Suarez. Tu trabajo es muy excelente amigo!

I would put that electorate article up for afd if I was you. Might prompt somebody to expand and reference it. Other than this try prodding the creator to make something useful out of it  ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 19:51, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

I;ve just spotted somebody adding more here. Exactly what you said earlier  ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 16:50, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Pennellville
Question regarding you recent edit to the disambiguation page Pennellville edit being: "Long comment to avoid being listed on short pages"  Could you provide the link to the page you are referencing. Based on your edit history, I assume that your edit does take the page off the list. The problem is that disambiguation pages should never appear on such a list regardless of their length. But it maybe that I simply need to learn what the purpose of the list is in the first place. Dbiel (Talk) 06:23, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the reply Dbiel (Talk) 07:06, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * What is the minimum page size to be removed from the list? Or is the list simply the 1,000 shortest articles? Dbiel (Talk) 07:29, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 1000 shortest articles, updated every few days. Any under 137 bytes will be scrutinized quickly; we are trying to push this to 150 or 200 bytes, but that's 10,000s of articles to go. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 18:31, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the additional reply. Looking at your edits, it appears that the goal is to make disambiguation pages a minimum of 300 bytes using the hidden text to accomplish the goal. Does that sound about right? Dbiel (Talk) 01:27, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

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WP:LGBT's Role in HIV / AIDS articles
It wouldn't be a proper gay community without a li'l bit o' drama! That's right. If we aren't arguing about something, then we should be asking if we're still queer. Maybe that's for the best, since we know we're still kicking. Our most recent topic is how far the role of our project should go in dipping our toes into HIV/AIDS articles. The main AIDS article was delisted as a Featured Article last month, sadly. (Sending a swift kick to WP:Medicine.) A spirited discussion is available for your entertainment on the WP:LGBT talk page about just how much of HIV and AIDS should we take on. As ever, we'll take your opinions under advisement. We're going to have to, because it doesn't seem to have been settled.

Is Pride POV?
We have a pretty cool sidebar that identifies core LGBT articles. Its symbol is the iconic gay pride flag, much like other Wikiprojects have iconic symbols denoting the topic is a core subject in a series of articles. However, a question recently arose asking if the symbol itself is not neutral. Should a pride flag show up at the top of the article on Conversion therapy? How else would anyone know the article is about queer issues? Is there another symbol that is as widely recognized and that includes all our many splintered facets? At what point do we stop asking ourselves all these questions and just go have a mint julep on the verandah and stop caring?

Harvey Milk and Jim Jones
For the love of all that is holy, no Kool Aid jokes. However, an editor involved in pioneering San Francisco Supervisor Harvey Milk's article has included a section about the late supervisor's support of Jim Jones and the People's Temple. While it may be accurate, there is a Request for Comment regarding how much emphasis the section places on Milk's support in light of his overall political influence on the city, and indeed the rest of the United States. Milk's article is a sad one in more ways than one. It lacks the detail and heart that honors its subject. Anyone want to do a barter with me? I'll bring Harvey Milk to featured status (give me a month or two so I can read stuff), if you do something of equal value to WP:LGBT?? Make me an offer...

Queer Studies is offensive!
The established branch of study known as Queer studies was brought up as an category for deletion because an editor was offended by the use of "queer" in the title. It was overwhelmingly rejected mostly by the usernames I see here on our Wikiproject page. (A clue that I know you are out there, hiding...biding your time...) So, I wish I could congratulate you, but now I'm all confused by my sympathy for the editor who was offended. So, if you're reading this, Moni has a short memory and can't remember your username. Don't be put off by our demonstrative pushiness. Join us. We can always use involved editors.

Lambda Literary Awards
What can you do to help the project out? Be a wiki-fairy, on many levels. There are all kinds of articles that need help. Why, just this morning I removed those ugly wikify and cleanup tags from four articles at random. If you can put  around stuff, you can clean up articles. There's a list of articles that need attention at the top of the WP:LGBT talk page. Or you can start with the Lambda Literary Awards, where the goddess of my altar received a pioneering award, and was "reduced to rubble" by Katherine V. Forrest's wonderful speech. The 20th ceremony of the Lambda Literary Awards, which celebrates LGBT literature, took place in West Hollywood on May 29th. The page needs to be updated with the new winners, to be found on the official website.


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Yeshayahu Leibowitz, Arthur C. Clarke and Bernard Montgomery
Why on earth would someone want to delete material about homosexuality? 'Tis truly a mystery. But these embattled articles have some random evil gnomes removing information that places these folks under our queer umbrella. Help us keep an eye out for the deletions. Take a peek at the articles, familiarize yourselves with the info, and be handy with the undo function in the article history. If tempers flare, take it to the Hall monitors and let them sort it out. Best solution is to make sure your sources are immaculate.

This month's Wiki stars
This is what I get for opening my big fat mouth and suggesting the newsletter should be revived. Here I am writing it. So, to pat self on back (*cough*) Mulholland Dr. became a featured article in May. This is A Good Thing since it is my personal declaration that there is no such thing as lesbian porn. I don't care what Benjiboi says about the video collection at goodvibes. Instead, we have hot women who connect on a deep, personal, soul-touching level, so this film should qualify as some of the skankiest porn available for lesbians. Plus, it's completely confusing and surreal! D'you think Laura Harring would care that the article is featured? I don't think so either... (Call me, Laura!)

Compulsive hoarding of templates
Once I saw a harrowing episode of Animal Planet's Animal Cops where this guy had, like, 250 cats in his house and it freaked me right out. I'm drawing a parallel between 250 cats and, well...three, really, templates in articles involving LGBT issues. Can we stick to one, maybe? In the aforementioned Harvey Milk's article there's a core LGBT template, a link to the LGBT portal, and a sidebar for LGBT rights. Jiminy! You'd think we weren't the folk to set industrial grey carpeting and track lighting in vogue. An LGBT footer was designed to link to articles of interest that aren't the aforementioned core articles. What do you think, can we have either an LGBT template for core articles, a footer for LGBT articles that are high profile but not core, or an LGBT rights template? As ever, anything's up for discussion on the WP:LGBT talk page.

The Violet Quill and magazines
Zigzig20s suggests we create an article on The Violet Quill, as it seems such a milestone in the advancement of gay/queer literature. Members of the Quill all have pages of their own (Edmund White, Christopher Cox, Robert Ferro, Michael Grumley, Andrew Holleran, Felice Picano, and George Whitmore). We need to find more info on the Quill per se to reference the page that we create. Perhaps Google Books - and libraries? - can help.

A number of magazines also need articles, perhaps most notably QW, LGNY, and Lesbian Feminist Liberation.

Mom's nagging for Pride Month
It's June, Pride month. Wear sunscreen, stay hydrated, get a designated driver, then go half-dressed in the streets find a girlfriend or boyfriend, or some homo who's standing there looking lonely and kiss 'em up real good. Remember, it all started 39 years ago when a bunch of drag queens just got fed the f*ck up by the cops raiding the bar and dragging them all out to the pokey again. Rock on, queens! Enjoy your celebrations. My town's is in October, and 200 people attend. I miss Denver.

Fresh faces to brighten our pages
Hey, I've seen you around! Sorry there seem to be so many—it's been a while. But we welcome you all: Cheezisyum21, Taineyah, Dustihowe, Avesta69, RachelSummers77, Vivekgopinathan, AMK1211, Staffwaterboy, Ted Ted, Joe5150, Leahtwosaints, Robapalooza, Arthomure, Confusionball, Affinity likely, PrinceOfCanada, Yobmod, Npd2983, Neagley, Bvlax2005, Bvlax2005, Rhullsf, Textorus, Kieran.casey, Tyciol, Meojive, Sappho'd, Bookkeeperoftheoccult,  Gaywarrior, Aujourd'hui, maman est morte, and Balin42632003.

It looks like we've picked up a lot of talent lately. We have no doubt you'll be making your indelible mark on LGBT knowledge as we know it, here at Wikipedia.

- In the immortal words of Miss Julie, "May all your Wiki days be bright, and may your Love Boat never turn into a Poseidon."
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We miss you, Miss Julie, as well as all the others who have graced our project and are on wiki-breaks or just got fed up with all the nuttiness and went to live their lives. Get your stupid houses built and hurry up and come back. --Moni3 (talk) 16:52, 9 June 2008 (UTC) To stop receiving this newsletter, or to receive it in a different format, please let us know here. If you have any news or any announcements to be broadcast, do let Moni3 know.
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This newsletter was delivered by §hepBot around 16:02, 11 June 2008 (UTC). ShepBot (talk) 16:12, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

William Hewer
You just deleted William Hewer which I found as a very bad stub just this morning, as I said in my initial edit summary, I was planning to fix and expand it once I got my sources in order. I agree that it was only a single sentence or so and I will be recreating it again, so please don't just jump in and delete it again when there is an indication that a stub will be actively worked on. Dabbler (talk) 18:49, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * If you looked at the edit history you will see that it had been edited by me just this morning before I had to go to work except the edit summary. I didn't put any tag on it then partly because I was in a rush but also as it had been sitting for over a week as a very bad stub, but Hewer is notable as a significant person in Samuel pepys life and diary. Dabbler (talk) 18:57, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

deletion
student lounge has recently been rescued, you may wish to review your vote at the deletion debate as new sourcing and copy editing has taken place.Myheartinchile (talk) 19:59, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Deletion of "Simon Haynes"
Just wanted to comment about this - I didn't raise the issue at the time, but as the recipient of a couple of major Australian genre awards (Aurealis & WASFF) and the author of four books published by a respected Australian publisher AND distributed by Penguin, I really don't see why you deleted my wikipedia entry.

I'm also the designer & programmer of a number of free software applications (yWriter, yMail, etc), which have their own Wiki entries. (Or had - haven't checked to see whether they've also been zapped.)

I've only decided to bring this up with you now because I've had several emails from people asking why I don't have an entry at all. As far as I'm aware the entry was factually correct, didn't breach any guidelines and didn't contain any spam or advertorial.

Thanks, Simon

Spacejock (talk) 01:12, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Lasin, Burma
A proposed deletion template has been added to the article Lasin, Burma, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice should explain why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the  notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised because even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. Do you want to opt out of receiving this notice? Phlegm Rooster (talk) 10:31, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

CProg
Why was CProg deleted? Are you an authority on this genre of music? This is a legitimate sub-genre. For starters, visit www.cprogrock.com. 68.161.185.37 (talk) 12:02, 19 June 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.161.185.37 (talk) 23:39, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

a follow up:

CProg (or C-Prog) is short for Christian Progressive Rock, a burgeoning sub-genre of progressive rock music. It includes musicians such as Kerry Livgren of Kansas and Neal Morse of Spock's Beard. This is a legitimite and growing type of music. I understand that the term *may* be a neologism, but the article can be re-written under Christian Progressive Rock.

Peter J (talk) 23:58, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm so glad you are sooooo tolerant of other views that you... oops, guess you aren't tolerant are you. :-( You have a right to your opinions, but please, respect the rights of others with whom you may disagree.  Cprog is a legit sub-genre of Progressive Rock and it deserves its space just as much as any other musical genre.  Cmdr Khatru (talk) 00:12, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

I am writing in reference to your deletion of Cprog. I'm puzzled that someone who proclaims to not tolerate bigotry would be so bold as to delete such a well written, well researched entry. Your personal profile readily promotes your liberal and "opinionated" slant, and I can only assume that your admission to being a "recovered Catholic" references a distaste for all things "religious". If your action was based upon the Neologism rule then you obviously have not done your homework. I suggest you spend a little more time fairly researching the topics you intend to edit.```` User:Doug Bowers (talk) 22:18, 18 June 2008 (UTC)````

Insult to Injury (comics)
I was surprised to see this article deleted on the grounds that it had no context; it was a new article that I didn't really get a chance to expand. I did expect it to be challenged though, on the basis of notability. I see that you have a disambiguation award, so maybe you will appreciate this: I made the article because the Indie Spinner Rack article had the Insult to Injury comic linked to the album of the same name. If I were to write an expanded article, would it be considered Recreation of deleted material? Is this topic even notable? It is after all a self-published comic, but I thought that it was fair game since another article links to it. Sillythekid (talk) 01:55, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Caraca
Hi. I stumbled upon the Caraca article, that you created as a redirect to Guadalajara, Spain. May I know why? Thank you, and sorry for the inconvenience. --PeterCantropus (talk) 08:24, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Creating geo lists
Hi I've made an intital suggestion at the GEOBOT talk page in that it would be an excellent idea to generate a full lists of places in a tabled list. Once this is accomplished we can work through what articles could be started in their own right if there is enough info avilabale. I see it as a solid comprehensive base to build geo content on if we have a full world list organized like this. See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Geography/Bot. Please offer your thoughts thanks  ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 14:25, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Jonathan Kaye (Linguist)
Hi. You nominated Jonathan Kaye (Linguist) for deletion on the basis of it being (as it certainly then was) a worthless article that didn't provide any real information. I've been able to expand on it and find sources, so I'm hoping you can take another look and see if you still feel deletion is still the best course. Thanks! Vickser (talk) 07:27, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

How timely
Hi Carlo, you recently added a disambiguation project tag to Thomas Bates, I had recently had a discussion over this page as it had been created by moving the previous Thomas Bates page to allow the new page to have "the correct name". Obviously this created quite a few broken links. My judgement is that the new page should have been called Thomas Bates (disambiguation) and should have left existing pages in place. Can you confirm? Is there a link to the correct policy? thx Victuallers (talk) 20:37, 27 June 2008 (UTC). Thanks Carlos for the offer of help. Appreciated. If you need help with the image map (clicky picture) which can be tricky then I can help, although ideally it should remain as is. Cheers Victuallers (talk) 07:28, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Armenian towns
Glad to see this... Travel is good. hello how you doing? --TheGreenGorilla (talk) 05:16, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Thankyou for doing this!!!!! It will take some time to get the bot off the ground as Fritz is tied with moving house at present but anything you can add in this way is much welcome!! ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦      $1,000,000? 20:02, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Tanahat
A tag has been placed on Tanahat requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a very short article providing little or no context to the reader. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding  to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the article does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that a copy be emailed to you. mauler90 (talk) 20:07, 3 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Speedy declined. A town with coordinates and a map and a reference is not a criteria for speedy deletion. It just needs expansion, ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 20:12, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Mrganush
When you are adding project banner in talk pages, then why don't you add the talkheader at the top? It is not must, but it is generally a good practice to add the talkheader. Thanks.  Otolemur crassicaudatus  (talk) 04:35, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
 * You should place the talkheader at the top of the page and the project banner below. Cheers.  Otolemur crassicaudatus  (talk) 04:44, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Please see Template:Talkheader. In most circumstances it is unnecessary if the talk page is empty. Regards, Korg (talk) 16:34, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Liebert (company)
Should | this be reverted? Looks like it's turned into an advertisement. - Warthog Demon  18:21, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Eww, you're right! Okay, down the afd-brick road we go! Okay, that metaphor sucked. - Warthog Demon  18:31, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
 * LOL. That actually took me 10 minutes before I finally got it! :P - Warthog Demon  18:41, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Secondly another question: was | this a spamish rewrite and should I report the username to UAA? - Warthog Demon  19:36, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Timpanogos Regional Hospital
I added some references to this article. You may want to revisit Articles for deletion/Timpanogas Regional Hospital (2nd nomination). --Eastmain (talk) 00:11, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Medical journals
Was it really necessary to file AfDs on a dozen medical journal stubs? Better would have been to just place prod tags on each article, or to file one multi-article AfD. Even so, most of these journals are clearly notable, being listed in the PubMed database. It's disappointing that we now have to go through separate discussions on every single one of them. --Elonka 21:55, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Indeed, it seems like disruption of WP to make a point. It would have made more sense to file a test case or two to see what the result is, before filing so many AfDs. DigitalC (talk) 23:58, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I am sorry that you were offended by my opinion. DigitalC (talk) 00:12, 11 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I think that DigitalC is being gracious. Carlossuarez, this comment of yours was an over-reaction, as was the AfD-ing of so many new stubs at once.  I would recommend that you consider refactoring your post to DigitalC, as I do not believe that he has been disruptive here. --Elonka 00:18, 11 July 2008 (UTC)


 * In my view, and those of the others working on scientific journals, we should probably have articles on every significant peer-reviewed journal in the major indexes (or perhaps on all 50,000 or so peer-reviewed journals, though I am not totally convinced of that myself), and on all the major trade magazines. there's no dilemma at all. Articles of the nature "XYZ exists" are simply incomplete stubs. I am supplementing as many as I can with additional information, but would have preferred to do it on a non-emergency basis. It would have been much better to try to improve them, not nominate them for deletion. DGG (talk) 01:27, 11 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Agree with all of the above. You're sort of being careless with people's time. Seminars of Integrative Medicine, which only existed for 2 years, is appropriate for a PROD. Why not hit it with a PROD then, rather than making us all post our comments on them? Most of the others appear notable, however, and it would be nice if you helped flesh them out. II  | (t - c) 01:47, 11 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I agree as well. Using the prod tag would have been more than adequate for the ones that seemed unlikely to be notable.  PROD is simpler, faster, and less hassle for all concerned.
 * It's also generally considered appropriate to spend a few seconds doing a little research before starting an AfD on a substub -- especially when, as these do, the stubs contain clickable links, which means that it's already referenced. As it is, you've decided to save yourself the trouble of doing even the most basic level of research, such as running an internet search on the name of the journal, at the cost of inflicting AfD defenses on half a dozen editors for the perceived deficits of these two-day-old stubs.  At minimum, I think you've been careless about creating extra work on uninvolved editors, and I hope that in the future you will think through the consequences a little more carefully.  WhatamIdoing (talk) 04:00, 11 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm afraid I have to agree, try using Google next time. Tim Vickers (talk) 15:03, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * STRONG AGREE with all the above....it takes 2 seconds to do a little research and less disruptive instead of putting your own POV on such WP:N and WP:V. like whatamIdoing stated it takes 2 seconds of looking google the articles and find this information out. Medicellis (talk) 17:10, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Medicellis, your comment would have been stronger without the ALL CAPS and exclamation points, please consider refactoring.


 * Carlossuarez46, I have to admit that I am somewhat disappointed with your response to the concerns here. As I'm sure you know, Wikipedia runs on consensus.  The clear "will of the community", as demonstrated by all of the AfDs, plus these direct comments on your talkpage, is that the multiple AfDs were not appropriate. Yet your response here, rather than acknowledging consensus, is to remain unapologetic, and indeed, somewhat combative.  Please reconsider your actions.  Especially as you are an administrator, it is very important that you set a good example in how you deal with disputes.  The proper course of action here, would be for you to graciously acknowledge the concerns of the respected editors and administrators on your talkpage, and apologize for wasting anyone's time. You should also assure the community that you have learned from this and will not repeat the same mistake in the future. If you disagree with the consensus, that is your right, but please do acknowledge it. Thanks, --Elonka 18:48, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi Carlos. I did notice the above discussion. I think your nomination has achieved the opposite effect of what you desired, namely people have now voted keep where they normally would have taken individual nominations (i.e. with more elaborate reasoning) on their merits. In the grander scheme of things, it might be reasonable to have an open discussion somewhere about the notability of some journals. The very specialist boutique journals sometimes have no more than a few hundred readers in a very niche area, and are not stocked by most libraries. Let me know if you want to open a more broad-ranging discussion somewhere. JFW | T@lk  06:11, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

On the bright side, he has attracted attention to new articles which might have had no attention if he had done just PRODs. They might have just been deleted if he'd used PRODs. II | (t - c) 17:59, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Azerbaijan
Hi any chance you could begin to add Azerbaijan as you did with Armenia? If you could do it by AWB it would be a lot quicker! ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦      $1,000,000? 12:56, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Its a program for doing tasks quicker I think. I dont use it but User:AlbertHerring and User:Epbr123 use it. Perhaps they could fill you in on it  ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 19:02, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Allegations of apartheid deletion notification
Some time ago, you participated in a deletion discussion concerning Allegations of American apartheid. I thought you might like to know that the parent article, Allegations of apartheid, was recently nominated for deletion. Given that many of the issues that have been raised are essentially the same as those on the article on which you commented earlier, you may have a view on whether Allegations of apartheid should be kept or deleted. If you wish to contribute to the discussion, please see Articles for deletion/Allegations of apartheid (fifth nomination). -- ChrisO (talk) 18:23, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Armenian Barnstar of National Merit
Thanks to you AlexNewArtBot has been working overtime this couple of months. It's your barnstar now, you can do what you wish with it. :) VartanM (talk) 19:15, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Zakhmet
I'm no expert on the language, but on the face of it that dab page disambiguates two words which are unambiguous anyway - Zakhmet and Khachpas. Am I missing something? Ros0709 (talk) 18:56, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah, thanks! Ros0709 (talk) 19:10, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Spaßguerilla
Re this edit: Did you take a look at the Google Books search result? Although by far most sources are in German, I'm quite confident that this is not suitable for a dictionary, and indeed very suitable for an encyclopedic entry. user:Everyme 07:49, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Carolina, Gaston County, North Carolina
A proposed deletion template has been added to the article Carolina, Gaston County, North Carolina, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice should explain why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the  notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised because even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. Texas Whitt (talk) 06:14, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

What do you mean its a real place? Of course, its a real place. It's just that the USGS list thousands of random place names. If its part of an incorporated city, its not notable to be on Wikipedia. Do you have a source establishing notability?--Texas Whitt (talk) 05:08, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

I don't know how to nominate something on afd yet, but I guess I could look it up. But I was looking at Notability (Geographic locations). It says, "A sub-section of a human settlement, such as a district of a town, should normally be incorporated in the article about the settlement it is located in, unless it has exceptional notability of its own, or unless it constitutes a unit of local government." This is just a subdivision. It's not even a whole "district" of a town.--Texas Whitt (talk) 05:26, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I've redirected it. Phlegm Rooster (talk) 06:04, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

LGBT WikiProject Newsletter (July 2008)

 * Newsletter delivery by xenobot  12:52, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Deletion of Elizabeth Shown Mills
Elizabeth Shown Mills is a real person who is well known in the field of genealogy. Despite the fact that she created the pages on herself and her novel, Isle of Canes, she probably meets the notability criteria for biographies. Recently someone tagged her autobiographical page with a COI tag because of its self-authorship. Eshown got miffed, and twice blanked the page, first using the userid Muse2 and then Eshown. (Eshown has used at least 5 different userids to edit her pages: Eshown, Chezbienvenu, ClioGen, Muse2, and anonymously as 76.18.149.123. See the sockpuppetry comment on her user page.) Because she is notable, I think the Elizabeth Shown Mills page should be restored to the last version before she vandalized it, with the COI tag and Talk pages intact. That would allow independent editors an opportunity to do some objective editing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.252.140.190 (talk) 20:54, 30 July 2008 (UTC)


 * To Carlossuarez46
 * To the contrary, I was not "miffed." I simply deleted the bio when you (or 64.252.140.190 writing as "anonymous") found it objectionable. I did so in the only manner I knew how and posted a request to have the offending bio removed. That request was honored. Thank you.
 * As for sockpuppetry, that was not intended. In my three offices I have 5 computers. Each has a different user name and password for security. The user-name that Wikipedia recognizes upon any given log-in depends upon which computer I'm using. 76.18.149.123 is my ISP address that occurs any time Wikipedia's 30-day automatic memory of my log-in expires and I do not notice that a new log-in is needed.
 * If you care to restore the page to whatever version you prefer and do that "objective editing," please feel free to do so. So long as facts are stated correctly (which has been a problem in the past), no correction by me will be needed. If something appears under your userid that is not correct, I will respond to you personally, with evidence, and ask you to correct it.
 * While I am not miffed, I am beginning to get frustrated.Eshown (talk) 23:20, 23 August 2008 (UTC)


 * One comment further:
 * As you state above, I am "well known" in my field. For that reason, an inordinate amount of my time is spent, unproductively, answering inquiries from bloggers, students, and others wanting basic details -- often prefaced by a statement such as, "Pardon my request, but I looked for you on Wikipedia and did not find you." The two pages to which you refer--one for myself and one for my 2004 book--were created to fill that need.Eshown (talk) 00:38, 24 August 2008 (UTC)


 * You seem a bit confused about several things: First, Carlossuarez46 is the administrator who deleted the Elizabeth Shown Mills article (based on your deletion of its content). 64.252.140.190 is the user who requested that it be restored. They are not the same person. 64.252.140.190 is not an administrator and therefore does not have the ability to restore the page. 64.252.140.190 did request that Carlossuarez46 restore it.


 * You stated:
 * "'an inordinate amount of my time is spent, unproductively, answering inquiries from bloggers, students, and others wanting basic details...The two [WP] pages... were created to fill that need.'"


 * Second, Wikipedia doesn't exist to serve your personal or business needs. If you find that dealing with repeated requests from the public is unproductive, get yourself a web page! Third, Wikipedia recognizes whatever login name you enter, irrespective of what computer you're using. A computer's user name and password used for security purposes are totally irrelevant to the user ID used for Wikipedia. Thus, the extraneous user IDs (Chezbienvenu, Cliogen, Muse2) are totally unnecessary, but I suspect you already knew that. Fourth, 64.252.140.190 didn't accuse you of sockpuppetry, but merely apprised you of the WP policy regarding using several different IDs.


 * As to what happened to your Wikipedia article, check here:64.252.24.161 (talk) 14:04, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

To Carlossuarez46 While clearly there has been some confusion in the discussion between the administrator Carlossuarez46 and Elizabeth Shown Mills and others, who sometimes think an IP address that clearly, from the thread, belongs to Mills, is that of Carlossuarez46, and while there may have been some content that would need moderation, Elizabeth Shown Mills is one of the most prominent professionals in the growing field of genealogical research and methodology in the United States. For those of us in the field (and not simply for Ms. Mills) it is a service for the public to be able to have a Wikipedia article on Ms. Mills and her work. This is the same kind of service as is provided by any article about a personage, living or dead, of interest to the public. Wikipedia is a public encyclopedia, and as such should cover people of Ms. Mills' stature in any given field of endeavor. So, I request that the page be restored at the level before it was "defaced" and that the Wikipedia community be able to do the objective editing you call for in the beginning of this talk thread. Is this possible at this point? Thanks for considering it. I freely admit that I am a professional acquaintance of Ms. Mills, but state that my only reason for requesting the instantiation of this article is that in trying to write about the value of Wikipedia to genealogical researchers, in addition to historical, legal, military, and biographical articles on the dead, I expected to find an article about one of our pre-eminent living professionals, and was surprised to find that it had been deleted years ago. Jordan Jones (talk) 03:15, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

Sean Patterson redirection/deletion
I understand the deletion of the Sean Patterson article (2 August 2008, 05:27), but I feel that it should redirect to Wilhelmina Models as opposed to She's Got the Look, since the most important aspect about Patterson is that he is the president of Wilhelmina Models, not just judge of She's Got the Look. Mr. Old-Skool (talk) 19:14, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Lake Darling
Wow, you protected Lake Darling within a minute after changing it to get your way. Textbook abuse of admin privileges if you ask me. Cburnett (talk) 02:38, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Someone's complaining about your long comments again
Wikipedia talk:Special:ShortPages :-/ --Closedmouth (talk) 08:50, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

long comment
Thanks. (I forgot about that eventuality.) Pdfpdf (talk) 14:24, 6 August 2008 (UTC) (P.S. I'm not complaining!!) Pdfpdf (talk) 14:26, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

MS Prince Albert II
This article was greatly expanded and sources added following your AFD tag being added. I just thought I would mention it; I'm not sure if you would want to re-evaluating your AFD nomination, or just let it run its course. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 20:04, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Armenia
Might I say well done for your work on Armenia and sorting out those complex deca-names and finding a 2001 census. At present there is a proposal for Yerevan geography stubs but at present we only have 39 stubs. COuld you find another 21 to stub to reach the 60 requirement? ♦ Dr. Blofeld ♦      "Talk"? 12:05, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

I'd be careful though with your terminology. Places like Lernagyugh are hamlets and many of the others villages. Most places with populations under 1000 really are too small to be towns. This does depend of course on the size and population density of the settlment but a satellite image would show if it is really a town. keep up the good work though ♦ Dr. Blofeld ♦       "Talk"? 19:04, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

I take it you disagree with me? ♦ Dr. Blofeld ♦      "Talk"? 20:17, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Please, do not decide whether a settlement in Armenia is "town", "village", or "hamlet" based on it's population. That is original research. A settlement in Armenia is either a "Գյուղեր" (village) or a "Քաղաքներ" (town). These designations can be looked up in appropriate sources, including census records. A large percentage of the articles you have created for settlements in Armenia currently have incorrect information. Kaldari (talk) 22:40, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * For example, all of the settlements in the Vayots Dzor marz are villages except for Yeghegnadzor, Jermuk, and Vayk. Can you correct the other articles appropriately? Thanks. Also, you should be aware that Քաղաքներ is sometimes translated as "city" (instead of "town"), but Գյուղեր is almost always translated as "village". Kaldari (talk) 22:51, 11 August 2008 (UTC)


 * As I responded on your talk page, if you're confident in your translations, make the changes you indicate. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 22:56, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Not to be rude, but I don't intend to hand-edit 900 articles due to your mistake. Since you created the articles, wouldn't it be more appropriate for you to do the work of correcting them? I can supply you with lists if you need assistance. Let me know if I can be of any help besides actually fixing them all for you. Thanks! Kaldari (talk) 23:00, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * There is no "nuance of tranlation" here. For each of these settlements, there are numerous reliable sources stating whether they are officially a Քաղաքներ (town/city) or a Գյուղեր (village). I don't care if you translate Քաղաքներ as "town" or "city". However, 90% of these settlements are Գյուղեր (villages), yet almost all of the wikipedia articles you created state that the settlements are towns. Գյուղեր is never translated as "town". 90% of these articles you created contain false information. You don't feel any responsibility to correct that? Kaldari (talk) 23:23, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * In case I didn't state it clearly, Քաղաքներ and Գյուղեր are official legal definitions in Armenia. Kaldari (talk) 23:24, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, I'm sure there are hundreds of instances on the web of Գյուղեր being translated as "town". However, in all official documents that I've seen, Գյուղեր=village and Քաղաքներ=town. I really don't care what words you use (hamlet vs. village or city vs. town), but the two terms Գյուղեր and Քաղաքներ need to be differentiated in some way. They should not all be lumped together as "towns" as that is misleading to people familiar with Armenian geography. Kaldari (talk) 23:43, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Your point is well taken and I agree that I am probably making a mountain out of a molehill. So I apologize for my persistence. My only concern is that people are eventually going to start "correcting" settlements that are Գյուղեր by changing "town" to "village". Once that starts happening, we will have some Գյուղեր referred to as towns and some referred to as villages without any sort of consistency or logic. If you are not willing to change them all yourself, would you object if I try to get a bot to "fix" them all based on their official designations? At least then there will be a method to our madness. Kaldari (talk) 23:56, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Like I said, I'm fine with a Քաղաքներ being designated as a "city" as long as we're consistant. However, I think classifying a Գյուղեր as a "town" is too confusing. As per WP:V and WP:RS, I would like to make Գյուղեր=village, since town is more often translated from Քաղաքներ. Hope that makes sense. Kaldari (talk) 00:01, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for being open to my suggestions. I just wish people would discuss issues like these before articles are mass created. I had the same issue with the thousands of Bangladesh settlement articles that Blofeld created. He made no effort to determine what types of settlements they were before creating them all. He just made them all "villages" regardless of whether they were a mouza or a gram (or both, as is often the case). If I'm doing research on settlements in Bangladesh, and I see that the Wikipedia article states that the settlement is a "village", I'm going to assume that means gram, just as I would assume it means a Գյուղեր in Armenia. However, in both cases I would probably be wrong :( Kaldari (talk) 00:10, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Sorry if I appeared to invade, but I know that many countries have official designations for settlements and did wonder what the status was with Armenia. Given that I don't understand Armenian I'll trust your judgement on it. Regards  ♦ Dr. Blofeld ♦       "Talk"? 12:56, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

New place names
Hi, I notice you are creating a lot of these - I have added a couple of transliteration redirects but was just checking you were planning on doing this, as there are rather too many for my tired hands to go through so late at night. Thanks - Brilliantine (talk) 01:08, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Hi. Your efforts to write articles on towns in Azerbaijan are very appreciated, however I have one request: could you make redirects in standard Latin alphabet? Seems there are a lot of characters not found on a standard keyboard.  Blanchardb - Me•MyEars•MyMouth - timed 01:17, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Good progress with Azerbaijan, I like the way you have worked out the rayons. Great!. But do you intend to create redirects from WikiProject Missing encyclopedic articles/Places/azerbaijan/page1?. One thing though I'm not certain whether the Azeri titles and letteing is generally used on here, I;ve found it is usually anglicised in the article titles otherwise Baku for instance would be Bakı. I know that when I started some Azeri films using Azeri lettering a while back some of the editors from Wiki Azerbaijan moved it to english. Unfortuately they are no longer active to ask. ♦ Dr. Blofeld ♦       "Talk"? 18:59, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Naming conventions (use English) is the relevant policy, but as long as there are redirects in characters found on a keyboard, I don't mind either way. Very impressive number of articles, by the way - good work. Brilliantine (talk) 19:07, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Carlossuarez46 has pointed out to me on my talk that Naming conventions (geographic names) was actually a more relevant policy. Brilliantine (talk) 19:13, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Sounds reasonable but there will be some confusion over existing english titles for the districts/rayons such as Jabrayil Rayon. You;d think the capital would be Jabrayil in coordination with it though rather than Cəbrayil. If we were keeping to that criteria, that technically it ought to be Cəbrayil Rayon? ♦ Dr. Blofeld ♦      "Talk"? 19:11, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Eeesh. A messy job with all those titles and redirects. I'm sure you'll do a great job. Best of luck! I;m sure if there are any major inconsistencies that people will make you aware of it anyway such is the reaction on wikipedia to major change. On average how many settlements would you say there are in each Rayon? ♦ Dr. Blofeld ♦      "Talk"? 19:19, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Well of course stub sorting will need doing, I;m sure waacstaats or somebody will propose upmerged stub templates for them all. I was thinking more in terms of category structure. If we are to have several thousands in the main category eventually it might be easier to create new cities, towns and villages categories for each rayon. i have no major objection either way if you want to keep the main A-Z, just thinking about subcategorization that I have done on many of the other countries such as Afghanistan etc  ♦ Dr. Blofeld ♦       "Talk"? 19:25, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

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Abadkend
Why you added GEOnet Names Server in a section called reference?  Otolemur crassicaudatus  (talk) 16:37, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Why you are adding this in multiple articles with a section title reference?  Otolemur crassicaudatus  (talk) 16:40, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

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Azerbaijan
Wow thats a highly impressive number of articles. Its almost like the bot is running as planned. How you generate them so quickly I have no idea but its faster than even I could do. Keep up the good work. The Bald One     White cat 18:56, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, odd how they are marked as patrolled as soon as they are created, but the log says nothing. Could I ask why there is no more specific citation than a wikilink to GeoNames? Phlegm Rooster (talk) 00:56, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I would add sources to the stubs, except I don't trust GeoNames. Is there some other source of data you are using? Phlegm Rooster (talk) 01:18, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Every time I look at a map using the coordinates it provides, I find that its chances of pointing directly to the town are slim. This is a result of their rounding to the nearest arc minute. That means that even if GeoNames is right about the degrees and minutes, it is pointing somewhere within a square 1.86 km on a side. That's why I proposed that all stubs on populated places meet three requirements; 1) a name that is either confirmed by the government of the place or by a reliable secondary source, 2) a cited population estimate or range than is less than 35 years old, and 3) coordinates that can be confirmed to point unambiguously to the place. I put forward this idea as a compromise between those who want articles on all populated places, and those who think only "notable" populated places should have articles. I have noticed that a lot of the discontent with the stubs tends to be with the lack of accurate sourcing; WP:V, not WP:N. My reasoning is that migrating over the GeoNames database without making it more encyclopedic is pointless. Phlegm Rooster (talk) 01:35, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Being within 1.86 km is fine for Los Angeles, but look at one you just created; Xələc, Ujar. Its coordinates are 40.35083°N, 47.685°W, but if you go to Google and zoom in, you see that it points to the right of a string of houses between two more circular towns. Is Xələc the linear group of houses, one of the nearby towns, the small town to the south and the string, or all three? And this is one with coordinates that provide arc seconds. Phlegm Rooster (talk) 01:52, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I tried to experiment, but GeoNames doesn't do the US. I'm pretty sure the larger cluster to the north is Xələc, because when I looked in GeoNames' map view, there was no other town labelled there. The first Google search I do is an image search, believe it or not. Phlegm Rooster (talk) 02:21, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
 * The Google search didn't help. There are other places named Xələc and Khaladzh that interefere with the search, but seriously, nada. Phlegm Rooster (talk) 02:41, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I have to know; has this got you worried about the quality of GeoNames? If I pick one of the ones that is only accurate to the arc minute, will it be worse? Phlegm Rooster (talk) 02:41, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
 * One would have to compare towns of equal size to see if GNIS is more accurate than GeoNames. I'll look for an example in GNIS. Phlegm Rooster (talk) 03:54, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
 * There are major differences between GNS and GNIS. For example, Harmony, North Carolina is given a page which spells out that it is an incorporated town (GNS treats all places the same). The coordinates are given to seven digits of accuracy (GNS varies from zero to two digits) and point to the main intersection in town. Phlegm Rooster (talk) 08:50, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
 * GNS's mandate is to provide uniform spelling of place names. They can and do have outdated or incorrect information on the location of towns. It is also possible that they mislabel a feature as a populated place when they meant to key in something else. Where did you get the fact the Ləki has a population of 3,941? If you have a source for the population data of some towns but not others, isn't it possible that the towns with no census numbers have no numbers because nobody lives there? How do you explain the cases of Ağarəhimoba and Fakhlul? Phlegm Rooster (talk) 23:48, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
 * The rounding I view as a symptom of uncertainity on the part of the people who created the entry. Some of the data goes back to before WWII. And you still haven't explained the cases of Ağarəhimoba and Fakhlul. Phlegm Rooster (talk) 00:03, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Ağarəhimoba
I am concerned that the town of Ağarəhimoba/Agaragimoba/Agaraimoba does not exist. The coordinates provided are very general (41.5°N, 48.68333°W) and point to an empty field. There are some houses scattered about, yes, but OR  OR  doesn't show anything that could be construed as providing any evidence that the town exists, just commercial websites using GEOnet Names Server data. A search in the Azeri Wikipedia finds nothing. Would it be possible for you to blank the stub (as author) since it appears to fail WP:V? Phlegm Rooster (talk) 05:56, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I think a database is only as good as the government employees that made it. Still, they must be right most of the time. If I take examples:
 * Ləki has a page in the Azeri Wikipedia. It has been tagged in WikiMapia. I used this info to improve your article.
 * Səlimoba. A Google search finds which mentions the place, but in the context of a forest. Looking on Google Maps shows a blurry village in a clearing in a forest by itself. Nabran is mentioned in the same line as Səlimoba in the source and has photos on Wikipedia. So I say, OK, Səlimoba seems plausible.
 * Zeyxuroba has 3 Google News hits. OK.
 * Vahidli has this Google news hit. Regular Google searching finds this and this which even says there is a nice bridge in the village. OK.
 * Qaraağacı was more difficult, but I found this which seems to list vote totals or something, this, this and this. The coordinates provided point right at a scruffy little village. I'm a little less sure, but an editor who can read Azeri would be.
 * Fakhlul gets nothing . The coordinates point to a bleak hillside overlooking Stepanakert. Given that a war was fought for the area, the lack of news hits is troubling. It does not appear on this very detailed map of Nagorno-Karabakh.
 * So you can see that most of the places exist, and have some sort of evidence other than a GNS entry. When I can't find anything, I grow concerned. Phlegm Rooster (talk) 08:03, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

More evidence GEOnet Names Server is fallible
Also, GNS is missing many places. For example, while creating Ringmo, I looked for it both by the text and map search. Found nothing. I used this map to figure out where it was. Many of the other towns on the map are not in GNS. Hmm. Phlegm Rooster (talk) 08:25, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

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Encarta
So Encarta gets its info from sources other than GNS? That would be heartening. Phlegm Rooster (talk) 02:09, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
 * And what do you mean by WP:POINT? I'm not being disruptive. Phlegm Rooster (talk) 02:18, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Əngəlan
Əngəlan gets one Google hit. Could be some sort of error by GNS--it is listed there exactly as spelled. Perhaps it would be best to db-author it? Phlegm Rooster (talk) 03:20, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Deletion
Well you know exactly how I feel about editors who try to get in your way it.. It can be a particularly frustrating one particularly when you aim to improve them and are making a concerted effort to add them but editors do of course have a right to show concerns. Its not the first time Phlegm has tried to prevent these stubs from being created. I would advise you to try to develop the article as an example of what is to come or just continue as you did. You can have my word that nobody is going to delete 4500 articles. They just need to be expanded. Ideally it would be good to get hold of some government sources, like I have with Mexico and Nepal I;ve been working on recently. My only concerns with your new articles was that I think you shouldn't use the Azeri names but put them into the anglicized lettering. I have suggested that you use the NGIS site as the Geo names server I think was contructed back in 1993 but people will always find reliability issues unless a government source can be found. The Bald One     White cat 09:45, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Once you;ve finished with Azerbaijan you;re more than welcome to help me add all of the places from Nepal Census 2001 etc. This gives data on population/ housing/education too of all the villages and towns in Nepal. [Gazeteer of Gambia -there are over a 1000 places with population census and estimates for Gambia missing -that page is the list within that province alone and with lists under their sub districts too. It contains info on the 1993 census for most of the places in the country. It initially began as the first 200 but now it hs developed to include population for most of the villages. Eventually I hope this will be the same for most countries. Perhaps it might not be a bad idea to work with the countries that have population data or government sources first? My idea is that if you work on the places you know that have government sources or can be expanded immediately, by the time we come to countries where at present little is available perhaps there might be more available by then. The internet is devleoping fast and evne in the last three months I;ve sseen new sites with opulation figures and data which I was after before, Nepal being one of them. If however you can find them for azerbaijan, this would be great.[[User:Blofeld of SPECTRE| The Bald One ]]    White cat 12:50, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

redirects again
Hello Carlos, just a thing I noticed while putting up Azeri redirects: the ı character does not need a redirect because the search engine automatically takes it as an i. De728631 (talk) 22:29, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah, the depths of wikicode. :) De728631 (talk) 22:37, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Barkhudarli, Yukhari Askipara
Hey Carlos. Typically on Azerbaijan-related articles we don't use the complete Azeri script. This is why Ilham Aliyev is not at İlham Əliyev. Also, your redirects on these two pages destroyed the edit history of the articles. I think there should be some consensus on the titles of these articles, but for now I think we should stick to what most users seem to consider the "English" names. Khoikhoi 07:09, 26 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Good point, my main concern was that you destroyed the edit history of those pages which is required under the GFDL. I know at least the consensus on articles about Azerbaijani people is to use the "English" or Anglicized names per Talk:Ilham Aliyev. But you have a point about geographic names, although I think this should be discussed further possibly at one of the project names sometime. Khoikhoi 05:05, 28 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Because you moved the page by copying and pasting the contents. The real edit history is now hidden in the redirect, while most readers will only see this, which is less than half of the edit history. Khoikhoi 18:55, 28 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Per How to fix cut-and-paste moves, "This is a Very Bad Thing, because we need to keep the history with the content for copyright reasons." I've fixed the two pages by by merging the edit histories. Are there any others? Khoikhoi 19:08, 28 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I'll keep this in mind in the future. ;-) Khoikhoi 19:10, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

BTW, do you think you could help me find out the Greek name for Eleutheropolis? The Bayt Jibrin article says "EX€vOEparrbXcs" which is clearly incorrect. If you look at the original version of the 1911 Britannica you can see the Greek name there, but it's hard to read and I'm not exactly an expert on the ancient Greek alphabet. What do you think? Khoikhoi 19:50, 28 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks, but wouldn't it be Ἐλευθέραπόλις? I'm just going based off the tif, which may or may not be correct. But it seems this is what the 1911 article says. Not sure if it's correct though. <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">Khoikhoi 20:25, 28 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Ah, I see. So where did you get Ἐλεύθεροπολις from? <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">Khoikhoi 00:33, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks a bunch, I'll check it out. <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">Khoikhoi 03:11, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Templates
If it means anything I think your're making good progress. I have created a navigation template for the first rayon and have applied them in the articles e.g in Khyrdalan. I would strongly recommend you to apply them to the foot of all articles by rayon, it gives a more fuller feeling of connecting them together I think and looks aesthetically quite good. I'll create a project page at WikiProject Azerbaijan/Rayon templates and red link the remaining rayon templates which will need creating, filling and applying in the same way <font style="color:#fef;background:black;">The Bald One      <font size="-4"><font color="Black">White cat 16:13, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

You mean moving to the anglicized titles that I "suggested" you to do initially anyway? OK I'll trust you to complete them. Regards <font style="color:#fef;background:black;">The Bald One     <font size="-4"><font color="Black">White cat 17:29, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

I think you;re doing well, but what I said initially at the start of the run; I had hoped you would have addressed it to the Azeri project first and come to a conclusion on what convention should be used on here with the members who actively edit articles from Azerbaijan. Potentially it may have saved yourself a lot of work with redirects if the pages are moved again later. I only advised based on the fact I have done a fair bit of work on early Azeri cinema in which several key members of the project at the time inisisted that they be moved to english or anglicized lettering, not to mention the english presentation of the districts and articles on people etc that already exist. Its just it may confuse some reader if they see something starting with unanglicized letter outside the romanticized lettering system. IN particular names which start with a "Ə" <font style="color:#fef;background:black;">The Bald One      <font size="-4"><font color="Black">White cat 17:58, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Olive branch
I found a source Toward Civil Society Center, for the current name and population for every village in Azerbaijan! I used this database to improve the Barda Rayon article, and checked all 117 Barda Rayon village stubs on Wikipedia. (According to two Azerbaijan gov't websites, there are only supposed to be 109 villages in Barda Rayon.) Four villages were listed in the wrong rayon; Bayandur, Azerbaijan (Tartar Rayon), Kəhrəmanlı (Yevlakh Rayon), Körpükənd (Zardab Rayon), and Yerevanly (Tartar Rayon). There were 25 stubs on villages that do not appear on 'Toward Civil Society Center' or another site, belediyye.org; Akhmedalar, Aryadzha, Babalylar, Bala-Kurtlar, Bargyushad, Bëyuk-Sovla, Bozakhlar, Cırdaxan, Barda, Gelanly, Harahacı, Irivanly, Ismikhanly, Karadzhalar, Barda, Kazykurdaly, Kəpənəkçi, Barda, Kylyshly, Mincivan, Barda, Naibly, Barda, Osmanlar, Oto Kelanly, Pernaklar, Pirilyar, Quşçular, Seviyan, Azerbaijan, and Yuzbashilar. In addition, there were about 16 misspellings. There were about 85 stubs that matched up; I added a population number to each of those. I also looked over this modern telecom map of Barda to be absolutely sure. Any thoughts? Phlegm Rooster (talk) 21:39, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

The only thing is Phlegm, what makes you consider Toward Civil Society Center, a reliable or authorative source? <font style="color:#fef;background:black;">The Bald One     <font size="-4"><font color="Black">White cat 21:42, 2 September 2008 (UTC)


 * The two gov't sources also say there are 109 villages but doesn't name them; TCSC lists 109 (and Barda city). The cell tower map shows exactly those names. It's a preponderance of evidence thing. Phlegm Rooster (talk) 21:45, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * They are government sources, both of which confirm this? OK thats enough for me to go on <font style="color:#fef;background:black;">The Bald One      <font size="-4"><font color="Black">White cat 21:56, 2 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I put a notice template on the ones I think are wrong, perhaps that would be the simplest solution; it makes Wikipedia look smarter than FallingRain, and allows time to find out what happened to the village. Phlegm Rooster (talk) 21:53, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I wanted to move Mirzəxanqaraqoyunlu to Mirzəxan Qaraqoyunlu but I can't; I think it's an anti Grawp measure. Phlegm Rooster (talk) 21:53, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

What I'd suggest is comparing the settlements you;ve created with the Azerbaijan sites that Phlegm suggested and highlight the "grey" areas, e.g the articles which cannot be confirmed on more than one site other than a computer generated database. I know we don't have web inforamtion on most of thes eplaces sadly yet, but we can still compare with these more up to date sites from Azerbaijan to get some sort of verification for current naming and existrence. What would you say to this? If we find settlmeents which cannot be confirmed on the Azeri sites would you be willing to filter them out and stick to the ones that are confirmed on these sites? <font style="color:#fef;background:black;">The Bald One     <font size="-4"><font color="Black">White cat 21:53, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

What are the numbers here? Are they population figures? <font style="color:#fef;background:black;">The Bald One     <font size="-4"><font color="Black">White cat 21:59, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I believe so, they match closely known populations, and the total fits with the number for the whole rayon. Even the size of the print (and the blob) on the map tends to be congruent. It also gives the telephone number and the name of the village sədr (in Azerbaijan every village has to have somebody appointed for the central government to contact).
 * Did you notice that there are two Qazaxlars? :) Phlegm Rooster (talk) 22:48, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll leave the GNS ref if I mess with any more stubs. Sorry. Phlegm Rooster (talk) 22:48, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I suspected that these bələdiyyəsi fill up the rayon; that is, everyone in Azerbaijan lives in one, rather like townships in the US. They are obviously centered on and named after traditional villages. Phlegm Rooster (talk) 06:40, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Speaking of village names, the second part of the name sometimes refers to the ethnic or clan identity of the people who founded the village. For example, - Qaraqoyunlu means Black Sheep, an "empire" that existed (according to this page) from 1365 to 1469. I'll bet Arablar means Arabs, Turkmen means Turks, and so forth. Any place that was named after something Russian or Armenian has been changed, e.g. (Kolkhoz Krasnyy Oktyabr). Phlegm Rooster (talk) 06:40, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Confirming place identity
HI Carlos. While your efforts and willingness to take on the task of covering Azerbaijan is laudible and I don't doubt that many of the places exist and are populated there do appear to be numerous settlements which aren't identified on Azerbaijani government and other sites. While you know I much appreciate your work in this area and know how frustrating it can be to have people identifying problems or finding negative aspects of your work I do believe that some of these places will need fully verifying. We still want to ensure that any data we have isn't misleading or incorrect. I know there is an element of uncertainty with any source but however young the web is there should be more sites on the web which mention ir (more than 7 google hits) if it is particularly notable for a full encyclopedi article. You know I've always seen Geonames server as dated and an uneven scope of covering places however small and missing out ones in countries like Indian and Nepal with 10,000s but how do we go about a] verifying articles like Göcəkli b]finding sources to expand it? <font style="color:#fef;background:black;">The Bald One     <font size="-4"><font color="Black">White cat 21:40, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

I know I agree with you that we shouldn't ignoring these places but the problem is that there aren't web users on here from countries like Azerbaijan, Bangladesh, Afghanistan and Burma in abundance who can expand them so they are likely to stay sub stubs for a very long time. The best we can do is work with what we have initially. At prresent we have coordinates for these places and some sites which confirm thisbut we don't have anything available to write the articles. Now I know wonders can happen in libraries and obtianing govenrment reports etxc to expand them but there will be few editors willing to expand them anyway. I;m sure eventually we'll have improved coverage but I'm not sure how helpful creating pages for the articles can be just to say -"we are fighting systematic bias, these places have a right to have articles too" unless they can be expanded at present. Following this I think generaitng lists of such places by country using the coordinates in the tables I proposed at WP:GEOBOT is the best thing we can do initially if no web data is available. <font style="color:#fef;background:black;">The Bald One     <font size="-4"><font color="Black">White cat 22:09, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Looks good, that is what I had in mind. If you could somehow expand them by adding that population data and municipal info that would make them a lot more valid I think. Do you plan on adding the population data from the sties given? <font style="color:#fef;background:black;">The Bald One     <font size="-4"><font color="Black">White cat 10:22, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Well naturally I'll be happier when there is a liberal amount of info on all world villages to rid of all of our stubs on here but this is definately a step in the right direction. If you can can you also say something in the text e.g As of .. the village has a population of .. It just fills it out a bit more as they look pretty empty. I know it says it in the info box but we need anything that will fill out the text <font style="color:#fef;background:black;">The Bald One      <font size="-4"><font color="Black">White cat 16:16, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Just a heads up. If you come across the villages which are also municipalities add a municipality banner in the infobox e.g Şəmsabad. You;ll have th change the name in the infobox though from the just "name" rather than "official name" so it works. Also if you are going through villages which you know belong to a municipality then you should also add a second level parameter to the infobox as I have done with Əmirməhmud. Once you have done the villages of each municipality it might be a good idea to list them on the main village/municipality page to connect them all. Also try to fill out your references a bit more. Try to use {{cite web and include details on the publisher and date etc. If you adjust your template to include this it should be easy to do. You can also add any telephone codes or geo codes to the infobox at the bottom if they are available. <font style="color:#fef;background:black;">The Bald One     <font size="-4"><font color="Black">White cat 16:33, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

If you look at the infobox for Qulbəndə all you have to do is change "official name" to just "name" and it works <font style="color:#fef;background:black;">The Bald One      <font size="-4"><font color="Black">White cat 16:44, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

One last thing. DO you have a date of the population figures was it from a 1992 census, 2002 ?? If so can you include it in the reference. <font style="color:#fef;background:black;">The Bald One     <font size="-4"><font color="Black">White cat 16:48, 3 September 2008 (UTC) Great. I'll leave you in peace now. Saludos <font style="color:#fef;background:black;">The Bald One      <font size="-4"><font color="Black">White cat 16:46, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Starting to look much better. Thanks for your hard work!. The final icing on the cake aside from mor einfo will be the navigation plates. I take it you intend to add these like the first two I added to the others once it is all in order? <font style="color:#fef;background:black;">The Bald One     {{sup| <font size="-4"><font color="Black">White cat  }} 21:31, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Agreed, best not to make and apply them until all the naming and population is sorted. You;ll want to keep hold of the WikiProject Azerbaijan/Rayon templates link though. I'll get around to drawing up the frames. When the time comes them you can just paste all the villages in thet given rayon into the templates and then apply them using AWB or something. I take it you use AWB for the rapid edits? <font style="color:#fef;background:black;">The Bald One     {{sup| <font size="-4"><font color="Black">White cat  }} 21:37, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Cəfərli (39° 11' N 48° 13' E), Jalilabad titling
I take exception to my edits being called vandalism. Please show me a discussion or MoS page that says we put actual coordinates in article titles like Cəfərli (39° 11' N 48° 13' E), Jalilabad, and I'll be satisfied. Thanks. - <font face="Verdana">CobaltBlueTony™ talk 14:01, 16 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Okay, I see why you did it, but I still am not aware of any precedent. I would suggest Dzhafarly, Jalilabad for Cəfərli (39° 10' N 48° 26' E), Jalilabad (with coordinating disambigs) and Dzhafar-Beyli for Cəfərli (39° 11' N 48° 13' E), Jalilabad.  I'm still having issues finding place names that use coordinates in the actual title.  I can't see someone searching for actual coordinate named places; why make redirects for those names to go to coordinate-name article that no one would search for? - <font face="Verdana">CobaltBlueTony™ talk 14:38, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Category:Documentaries alleging war crimes
You had participated back in February in this CfD regarding the Category:Documentaries alleging war crimes, which ended in no consensus. A new proposal has been made to eliminate this category and merge its contents to Category:War documentaries which is now going on at Categories for discussion/Log/2008 September 24. You are encouraged to reconsider the original CfD, revisit your opinion in that discussion and participate again in this latest CfD. Alansohn (talk) 20:22, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Redirects
You might note than in writing redirect the # is necessary as in #REDIRECT Wherever  WP:Redirect has more details. --Rumping (talk) 12:43, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I had seen but I now see you have already changed you code for later redirects.  --Rumping (talk) 12:47, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

WP:ANI notice
Question about your editing at Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 07:52, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
 * If you're using the very old data from an early trial of FritzpollBot, then this data is inaccurate. Whilst I understand your desire for full coverage, this is against the spirit of consensus achieved during that discussion Fritzpoll (talk) 13:38, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Falles
(I hope you don't think this is spam...I wrote this same message to another Admin, but then saw he/she had been inactive for ages...so I came to you)

Hi Carlos. I'm not new to Wikipedia, but I can't say I'm experienced. It has come to my notice who in the Falles article, there is a Box under the name of Catalan-Speaking World. I seem to think this is unnecessary and it gives a Catalan hint to Falles (and to other noncatalan fiestas included in the box). I have spoken to the user who created this, and to others who are around. None of them will listen to my claims and just talk down my suggestions. At the end of the day they just give their personal opinion over mine. As the only people who are dealing with this are against the removal of this box, I can see no way of doing what I think follows Wikipedia's rule, and the reflection of reality. My arguments are that this reference to the catalan speaking world should be a link to a category at the end of the article. This way, it is still included as part of the catalanlanguage world, but it doesn't make people who have nothing to do with it think of it as a Catalan tradition or have anything to do with catalan. I like to think that St Patrick's in Ireland could be included in a EnglishSpeaking World Box, but this would be irrelevant. I hope you can help me out. Regards--Arthurbrown (talk) 12:23, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I just think this box shouldn't be a box, but a category to be added at the end of pages, as other languages do not have their "world box" like this. I think englobing other regions/countries under the same name, creates the possibility of cases like this, where Valencia doesn't consider itself Catalan, but is constantly included as such.--Arthurbrown (talk) 12:28, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Azeri places
You might find Azeri wikipedia useful for tying some of the places together.They have 626 articles on places, and the articles are even less developed but it may be useful to tie some of the articles to Azeri wiki in the hope some day they will be fully expandedBlofeld of SPECTRE (talk) 22:44, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

See Kiş, Shaki!Blofeld of SPECTRE (talk) 14:42, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Yes I'm sure many people are too stupid to see that articles can be written about places in Azerbaijan too and that they are actually real places. If eventually they can all be filled out this encyclopedia will be much better for it. You are still going to create those nav plates I started on right once the brunt of the task is done?Blofeld of SPECTRE (talk) 17:11, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

More evidence that content can be written for similar size villages in Armenia/Azerbaijan. Yelpin and Shvanidzor. <font style="color:#fef;background:black;">Count Blofeld 17:36, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Templates are looking good <font style="color:#fef;background:black;">Count Blofeld  22:48, 10 November 2008 (UTC) Just wondering why you stopped using infoboxes and have red linked non existant templates in thet created articles? <font style="color:#fef;background:black;">Count Blofeld 21:45, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Congrats on finishing that job. I bet you must have racked up like 40,000 edit doing that task! I just hope that more info will become available to expand them all. The Bald One      White cat 22:33, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Don't blame you. That task was huge. Take it easy for a bit but keep Bulgaria in mind although if you want to venture away from that area I wouldn't blame you. I'd start doing it myself but the village website stalls my computer! Have a great Christmas anyway. Incidentally Nepal has all been started now too! Just needs development like Kumarwarti I did earlier! The Bald One      White cat 22:46, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Former toponyms of places in Greece
Hello, thanks for the lists that you set up. I will really appreciate creating a list with former toponyms in Rhodope Prefecture and Evros Prefecture. I have some books with toponyms, but they are far limited than the lists you create. Regards --Chech Explorer (talk) 14:55, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Closure of WP:GEOBOT
Regrettably I have come to inform you, that this bot project will not go into operation and therefore the project will be closing down. Thanks everybody for their time and support but there is a clear reason why it failed. Dr. Blofeld (talk) 11:55, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

hickory house article deletion - request to see deleted article
No discussion desired. Just would like to see the deleted article121.128.102.179 (talk) 02:33, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Bulgaria
Hi Carlos. I wondered what your plans are for when you;ve finished Azerbaijan. Here on this site are details on every village in Bulgaria. POpultion, area dinstance from Sofia etc. Would you be interested? <font style="color:#fef;background:black;">Count Blofeld 11:09, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Anyway the templates and links to access villages are at WikiProject Bulgaria/Municipal templates anyway once you feel refreshed!. Regards 22:50, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Yolo County Template
Hi, I've seen that you have done a lot of the more recent work on Template:Yolo County, California. I was wondering how it is decided whether an area is listed as a "Ghost town" or an "unincorporated community"? I'm in the process of adding history to each of areas listed in the template, and I just worked on Cottonwood, Yolo County, California. The source I am getting my information from states that pretty much everyone up and left the community after the railroad chose to bypass it. So should it be listed under ghost town on the template given this information? Any advice/information you could give would be very appreciated. Thanks. Killiondude (talk) 07:08, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

AfD
Hi! Would you mind weighing in on this AfD: Brownmark Films The discussion has been re-listed several times and I'm hoping to finally get concensus on it. Thanks! SERSeanCrane (talk) 02:39, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Alexander Marshall
Many thanks, Springnuts (talk) 12:44, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

cup of tea
☻ Someone has poured you tea ☺ Beeblebrox (talk) 06:13, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Merry Christmas
<div style="background:crimson;border:5px ridge lime;color:gold;font-family:monotype corsiva;font-size:200%"> Hello Carlossuarez46! I just wanted to wish you and your family a merry Christmas! May this Christmas be full of great cheer and holiday spirit. Have a great day and a wonderful New Year, from  The Bald One       White cat 11:41, 25 December 2008 (UTC)