User talk:Carlwgeorge

A belated welcome!


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Ongoing dispute at CentOS


Please see a comment I recently left for User:Quetstar. In my opinion as an administrator, more reverts at CentOS could lead to blocks, and I'm hoping to avoid that possibility. Please note that you have an admitted WP:COI (employee of Red Hat). You are not expected to edit the CentOS article directly. As the COI guideline states, Your evident desire to add only factual information has not led to any feeling of neutrality about your material. You somehow want to make the Stream release into a valid successor to the original idea for CentOS. To an outsider (like me) it sounds like corporate spin. You should make proposals on the article talk page and try to persuade regular (non-COI-affected) editors to support your changes. Let me know if you have any questions. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 21:14, 18 March 2021 (UTC)


 * User:EdJohnston CentOS Stream isn't a successor to CentOS, it is CentOS. CentOS is changing from downstream of RHEL to upstream of RHEL.  I went into detail on this on the talk page.  Not everyone is a fan of that change, and that's ok.  I have followed your recommendation and have only been participating on the article talk page.  User:Quetstar is still routinely reverting edits to the article from others without discussion.  They have even stated on the talk page that they are pushing their own opinions in the article, and intend to continue doing so.  I encourage you to read all of the recent talk page discussion to get the complete picture of User:Quetstar's unwillingness to work with other editors.


 * User:EdJohnston It is not merely opinion, or the position of Red Hat, that CentOS has shifted focus from CentOS Linux to CentOS Stream, it is the stated position of the project itself. That's the fact. It's also a fact that this decision upset a lot of people, as evidenced by the comments on that blog post. But that doesn't make it less factual. It is a disservice to people seeking facts to allow one disgruntled user (even if his reasons for being disgruntled are legitimate) to decide to push an alternate reality. Rbowen2000 (talk) 19:26, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Problem is, the project has been controlled by Red Hat since 2014, and you admitted in the most recent Stream Q&A (the one organised at LiSA) that the decision was made with RH's interests in mind, which means that the board forfeited its obligations to the community the moment it was sealed. As a result, CentOS is no longer a community project, but a Red Hat initiative passing off as a community one. Quetstar (talk) 04:44, 10 July 2021 (UTC)