User talk:Carmenmaftei

Dreamstime
Hi, I have recently started editing the Dreamstime related page - here is the link: Dreamstime This was my first time adding info and I tried to be as comprehensive as possible, perhaps too much. I admit adding a lot of external links which I have since then deleted. Shortly after I added my description I noticed that the page was being considered for deletion. I edited the info and tried to be as neutral as possible so I really need help having the notice removed. I do not want the page deleted. Is there anyone I can ask to re-review what I wrote and let me know if it is ok now? The info is incomplete anyways but I really don't want to add anything else at this point and make things worse. I need to know if what has been written so far is acceptable. Thanks.

Carmenmaftei (talk) 19:23, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Dont be discouraged. Go to the speedy delete page and speak up for your edits to the article. The deletion is not pre-ordained. Your efforts are appreciated. It can be disheartening to have your early edits voided. Don't let this stop you from becoming a welcome member of the WP community. You will find a lot of rules and guidelines. It's hard to know and follow them all, especially someone new. ```Buster Seven   Talk  20:04, 17 July 2012 (UTC)


 * The article is currently nominated at WP:Articles for deletion, and reasons for/against keeping the article are being taken at WP:Articles for deletion/Dreamstime. Feel free to add your thoughts there. IMO, what the article really needs is more verifiable and reliable independent third party sources with significant coverage — with only one reference, it appears the company might not pass WP:GNG. Dori ☾Talk ⁘ Contribs☽ 20:55, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Some editors are over-zealous in their application of the rules and guidelines. WP:COI allows for self-identification of a conflict and maybe you should consider that in your future edits. Hopefully, this is just a small and temporary roadblock in your WP career. Not every editor has a police state mentality. Good Luck. ```Buster Seven   Talk  15:15, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you so much for helping me with this. I really appreciate it. I must confess I was like the little lamb visiting the lion's den. I did not read the policies, my fault. Plus, I admit I added external links but deleted them once I got the warning. It is just my first edit :). I wrote my real name as username so I did not hide :( although people are telling me I should have. Anyway, I had some extra work to do to understand what is going on here on Wikipedia and I still don't know much. I take researching and writing quite seriously and I would never do anything against the rules. I am aware of standards required when writing an essay, citing sources and stuff like that. And about the neutral tone, I really believe it was neutral ;). I am grateful for your help and advice, it meant a lot to me. After this adventure, I am sooooo scared I will consider ten times before adding anything to Wikipedia :). I just hope the page will not get deleted because that would be a shame and it would mean I would have done a lot of damage to many people without intending to do so. Well, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. Thanks again. Carmenmaftei (talk) 15:31, 19 July 2012 (UTC)


 * You might consider cut-n-pasting the Dreamstime article and moving to a "sandbox" where you could work on it should it be deleted. Also, I have taken the liberty to ask User:MichaelQSchmidt to intervene and give his opinion at the deletion site. Weather he appears or not is up to him. You "lamb in the lions den" analogy is so typical of many newbies experience. I wish it wasn't so but the guards at the gates are very strict and stringent in their "Rules of the Road" interpretation. Once you travel further into the community you wont feel like such a lamb. And who knows. Maybe you'll grow into a lion. And you will remember how you were treated. And you will do what you can when you see a new editor being abused. ```Buster Seven   Talk  16:06, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ See User:Carmenmaftei/Sandbox-Dreamstime. ```Buster Seven   Talk  16:19, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Wow! Thanks. I did not get to save it before I left work so now that you've done it for me, I feel really indebted. And thank you for asking your friend to do have a look. Very kind and nice of you. I did not expect any help at all, on the contrary, but you have done more that one would have. Thank you again, it has been refreshing talking to you and having your support amidst the whole page deletion thing. Carmenmaftei (talk) 17:31, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you again for your help and comments. It seems the sin I have committed is unforgivable to some. What I can say again to my defense is that I was completely ignorant of some rules. I am well aware of my earlier edits but everything happened over some hours while I was reading, re-reading and trying to adjust the article. I edited a longer version with some external links, then received the self-ad message, then had a shock :) and then chiseled the article to its basic as you pointed out. It was not my intention to promote, just to talk too much about DT and say everything that one can find there. I am affiliated to Dreamstime but I was trying to give more info. Believe me when I say that I used Istockphoto, Shutterstock and Fotolia Wiki pages as examples when I started editing. I do not wish to advocate for DT, I only wish to give it a proper page. So, bottom line is I do not know how to correctly edit a Wikipedia article at this point and this is the only thing I feel ashamed and guilty of. This user, Hu12, has gone to the world's end to discredit me, it is like a personal crusade to show that I am an interested party and shamelessly promote DT. I am lazy for not reading the rules and a bit silly for thinking I could edit Wikipedia as I do with my own blog, that I can accept. I am a girl and I am sorry to hear you're missing female editors. I do moderate forums and blogs myself and things are never like this. I do send warnings, have discussions, guide new users etc but in a whole different manner. I can understand Wikipedia's point of view and policies, my fault there so I'd very much rather stay away from the conflict as I do feel I am making things worse. I really don't want to see my "underwear," - pardon my French - posted on Wikipedia as I see this user HU12 has gone through the trouble to post so many links to my activity, profile page and resume. Thank you again for your support, I am only sorry you have to take some hits for my ignorance. Carmenmaftei (talk) 10:04, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I just wanted to say thanks so much. I have just seen that the delete notice has been removed and I am very happy that the page will stay online. I feel relieved :). I will not edit this particular page for obvious reasons but it is online and can be improved in time. Carmenmaftei (talk) 11:20, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Your Watchlist
Whenever you edit, on an article or User page or any of the various talk pages, you initiate inclusion of that WP page on your Watchlist (in the right corner of any page). Its the easiest way of checking out whats happened where you have been. Most editors check there constantly. ```Buster Seven   Talk  22:50, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Jimmy Wales' position on paid advocacy
I am opposed to allowing paid advocates to edit in article space at all, but am extremely supportive of them being given other helpful paths to assist us in our efforts to be comprehensive, accurate and authoritative. This is a very simple rule that constitutes best practice: do not edit Wikipedia articles directly if you are a paid advocate. Instead, contribute proposed edits to the talk page, and escalate to appropriate venues on Wikipedia if you are having trouble getting people's attention.
 * From User talk:Jimbo Wales/Paid Advocacy FAQ
 * We all commit forgivable sins. If you are an advocate for Dreamstime and you are only here to promote that company (as User:Hu12 claims) thats OK. I can only suggest that you realize there is more here than just one isolated article. If you are a women, Wikipedia has a drastic shortage of female editors. We need your special feminine insight and manners. If your a guy, welll....I apologize 'fer tinkin youse was a dame' but you should stay, too. ```Buster Seven   Talk  06:46, 23 July 2012 (UTC)Also, just so you know, the conflict of interest of an editor is not an adequate reason for deletion of an article. If you go to WP:COI you will see mention of how to proceed and possibly Self-Identifying your conflict. ```Buster Seven   Talk  08:51, 23 July 2012 (UTC)