User talk:CarolinaDemocrat

January 2024
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 * I am not getting paid or in any way compensated for my edits. CarolinaDemocrat (talk) 10:15, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Are you associated with the Democratic Party apparatus? 331dot (talk) 10:26, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I am a Democrat; however, nobody in the Party asked me to update pages and I'm not getting paid. I noticed that there were holes in the information on Wikipedia and I'm simply trying to help fill those gaps. If you don't want my help, that's fine. CarolinaDemocrat (talk) 10:39, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Merely being a Democrat is not a conflict of interest- only if you are associated with the party organization(either paid or unpaid), regardless of if you were asked to edit or not. Even that is fine as long as it is disclosed. Your help is appreciated, just trying to make sure policies are being abided by.
 * I would note that it would be rare for a county-level party organization to merit a standalone Wikipedia article- there would need to be signficant coverage of it in independent reliable sources that discuss its importance/significance/influence(how it is a notable organization)- not just announcements of its candidates winning. Writing a new article is the most difficult task to perform on Wikipedia, and it is usually recommended that newer users first gain experience and knowledge by editing existing articles first. You are welcome to proceed nevertheless but you will need better sources to summarize in any article about this county-level part of the party. 331dot (talk) 10:47, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Totally understand that most county parties won't merit their own pages. I was planning to just make articles for the Mecklenburg and Wake county parties--they are the two largest parties in North Carolina and are both individually larger than some state parties. Both have multiple full-time staff and thousands of active members/volunteers. Mecklenburg has almost the same number of Democratic voters as Maine (but nobody would argue that Maine's Democratic Party merits its own article). Combined, Mecklenburg and Wake are the same size as New Mexico and Iowa.
 * If you aren't convinced that the Meck party has merit, read this article from the top education reporter in NC: https://www.wfae.org/education/2023-11-14/election-brought-complex-challenging-and-hopeful-messages-for-cms. An organization that can single-handedly decide who leads one of the largest school systems in the country seems to meet the Wikipedia notability guidelines. The Meck Dems also flipped Huntersville, the 16th largest municipality in NC, in the most recent election. Does that not sound notable to you? Thanks for your help. CarolinaDemocrat (talk) 11:10, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
 * That might qualify, I haven't considered it fully, I was just commenting on the article as reviewed. If you make changes and resubmit it, it will be reviewed by someone else.
 * State-level parties merit articles as they run candidates for state-level/federal offices and influence their political positions and activities. Occasionally they run or are involved in referendum campaigns(in Maine this is done). 331dot (talk) 11:22, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Understood. The article has been updated and resubmitted. Does it show up on your end?
 * Everything you just mentioned with regards to state-level parties also applies to Mecklenburg and Wake. Both are so big that they run candidates for state-level/federal offices and influence their political positions and activities. Mecklenburg currently has 5 of the statewide democratic candidates running for NC's 10 executive branch positions. Mecklenburg also successfully ran a ballot initiative to provide $2.5 billion in funding to build schools in Meck--the largest bond to ever pass in NC. CarolinaDemocrat (talk) 11:29, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I guess North Carolina is different, in Maine statewide and US House candidates are the domain of the state party. 331dot (talk) 11:31, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm not saying the state party isn't involved--just that Mecklenburg and Wake are so big that they play an outsized role in recruiting and supporting candidates for those races. Both counties have multiple congressional districts within them.
 * According to Google, Maine appears to have 1.372 million people. Mecklenburg has 1.122 million. Wake has 1.15 million. I'm not attacking Maine--just saying that Wake and Meck are each the same size; therefore, their county parties are equally relevant and merit articles. CarolinaDemocrat (talk) 11:38, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Mecklenburg County Democratic Party (January 8)
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331dot (talk) 09:46, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Mecklenburg County Democratic Party has been accepted
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Thanks again, and happy editing! The Herald (Benison) (talk) 10:32, 3 March 2024 (UTC)