User talk:Carptrash/Archive 3

Hello
Cool, right on. I do alot of stuff on Pre Columbian Native American articles, glad you like them. Do you do murals too?  He  iro 17:56, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I dont really edit much about murals here, since it is what I do for a living, lol. Most of what I know about them is from the 300 or so I've worked on across the country. And writing about those would probably involve some COI issues here. I edit mostly Native American history, mostly Mississippian culture related stuff, but also alot of the other Mound Building cultures. With my job, I've gotten to travel quit a bit thru the Ohio and Mississippi river valleys, so I make side trips and pitstops to photograph them, consequently quit a few are illustrated with my photos. I grew up not too far from Serpent Mound in southern Ohio. I used to have an apartment in Portsmouth, Ohio about 2 houses over from the last remnants of the Portsmouth Earthworks.  He  iro 19:06, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for File:HalBlaine&the-WreckingCrew.jpg
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Hey
If you left that comment on my user page because it's explicitly an "anyone can edit" page, I mistook it for a newbie mistake, so I took it out. Feel free to revert it if it if that isn't the case. :-) It's cool about our birthdays. I dream of horses If you reply here, please leave me a message on my talk page. @  06:43, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Your advice
Thank you for your advice regarding my edits to Fairmount Cemetery (Denver, Colorado), I'm new to this but thank you for your advice jfrlkbJfrlkb (talk) 15:36, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Elisabet Ney
Re your message and Elisabet Ney's nationality, I just changed it to German American   You've made a good point, but I've found nothing - yet - in my research that she gave up her German citizenship. Maile66 (talk) 17:11, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
 * German American and category German-Americans and category German diaspora, but I get what you mean. There is also German Texan and the category List of German Texans, but Ney lived in more than Texas.  In Wikipedia, you can pretty much find a group opposed to anything, just as there will be an opposite group in favor of the same thing.  If you come up with something definite from the Elisabet Ney Museum, maybe you might like to leave a note about it on her talk page - because somebody, somewhere is going to disagree.  I think more pointedly, is whether or not "nationality" means origin of birth, or citizenship.  If you look at the Infobox Scientist I used for Edmund Montgomery, it has both Citizenship and Nationality, indicating they are different meanings.  Infobox Artist will not accept Citizenship, as I have tried.  Maile66 (talk) 20:23, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Elisabet Ney and Edmund Montgomery are possibly equally important in contributions, but he seems to have been historically overshadowed - if not almost buried - by Ney. On Oct 30, I had left a message on Talk:WiliProject Philosophy asking for input on Montgomery's body of work.  I'm out of my depth with his field of study, and someone else needs to detail the significance of his contributions.  What is currently on his page under "Medicine" and "Philosophy" pre-dates me, and it's not very well written.  I've tried to coordinate the biographical info between the two pages, so that details of one page checks accurately against the other.  The SMU papers refer to the children as Arthur and Lorne Ney, rather than Montgomery.  Accounts of details on any given point vary from source to source at times. Maile66 (talk) 23:15, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Restaurants in Española
For "New Mexican" food, Angelina's (one of the ones I deleted from the Española article, I admit) and if you're saving money, Stop and Eat. For more expensive and tastier, more Old Mexican food, Mariscos la Playa (a Southwestern seafood chain) and El Paragua. For take-out, El Parasol. For non-Mexican food, why bother?

Do you live near here or visit here? &mdash;JerryFriedman (Talk) 18:25, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Kellogg Biological Station and W.K. Kellogg Manor House located in Hickory Corners, Michigan
Carp, please take a look. The architectural firm might need an article. And I am sure you have something to contribute. 7&amp;6=thirteen (talk) 14:45, 21 November 2010 (UTC) Stan

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Origin of the name Espanola on the Espanola, New Mexico page
I noted that the following sentence was included on the page regarding the origin of how the City of Española initially got its name, i.e., Another explanation is that the name “Española” is a variation of the Spanish word “Hispaniola” or “New Spain.” I deleted this additional sentence for the following reasons:

While the author of "another explanation" may be well intentioned, the "another explanation" is erroneous. In the early 1960s, Robert Trapp, owner and editor of the city's newspaper called "The Rio Grande Sun" printed an article on the origin of the city's name. Prior to Mr. Trapp printing the article, he verified its contents by talking with members of families -- of both Spanish and Anglo origin -- who had lived in the area for generations.

Please remember, to many Española residents it was common knowledge as to the origin of the city's name since the origin of the city's name on or about 1880 began when Española was but a village. Early families inter-married and carried with them the knowledge of the origin of the city's name. When Mr. Trapp wrote the article, Española, now a city, was still small in population with most people knowing everyone who resided in the area.

Española's past Mayor Richard Lucero (who is also listed in Wikipedia), who comes from an old Española Valley family, has spoken of the origin of the city's name confirming the story that it was named by the railroad after the Spanish woman who opened a restaurant to serve the railroad workers.

Also, when you look at old New Mexico state maps prior to the 1880s, you will not find the town name Española listed on them. The name starts appearing on New Mexico state maps after the "Chile Line" railroad started to be constructed in 1880. This further confirms how the city's name was derived.ññññ Espanola (talk) 19:15, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for your comments on Espanola
Thank you for your comments regarding the detail I gave on the origin of Española's name. Unfortunately my User Page was not helpful and consequently my editing has my user name in red and not blue -- I think. I am somewhat color blind to the color red. I was confused as to how to make it blue. I have deleted the addition that was made. Incidentally, many years ago I became highly skeptical of reference books designed to give origins of place names of cities and the names of state capitals after noting that a Reader's Digest publication named Albuquerque as New Mexico's state capital!!! Espanola (talk) 07:58, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

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Maya stelae
Hi Carptrash,

Thanks for dropping in the stela into the table - I'm actually trying to track down dimensions for the stelae specifically mentioned in the Maya stelae article, (see the list under the table), although once I'm finished with the FA nom I'll very likely start a "List of Maya stelae" article. If you can find dimensions for any of the missing stelae in the worklist, I'd be most grateful. Best regards, Simon Burchell (talk) 00:16, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

Dylan: Red on Red
Agreed. Based on existing redlinks, a couple songs due for a start are "Walls of Red Wing", "Walkin' Down the Line", "Paths of Victory", and "Mama/Daddy/Baby, You Been on My Mind", all solid choices. Notability, of course, rules, and off the top of my head, one measure is the number of notable artists who have recorded a song. That would only take some simple tallies and would be fairly objective in the sense that the "jurors" would be "blue ribbon". Just a thought. Thanks for the response. Allreet (talk) 15:03, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

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Caryatids
I'm glad you are interested in these. Sadly, I don't know enough to contribute usefully to the article and don't have suitable reference works to hand. I was racking my brains to think of examples I've come across. But I looked up the article in the first place after seeing the wonderful Agnès Varda short documentary The So-called Caryatids (1984) about the caryatids in Paris which she says are mainly from the 1860s. The idea was taken up by the Jugendstil movement and links into the Scandinavian architectural renaissance at the beginning of the 20th century. And I've found an example on a building in Tallinn dating from 1909-10. What is fascinating is the evolution of the concept as ornament, so that in the Nordic countries, such as Finland, they may no longer be human figures at all, and reference historical cultural motifs. The related issue is what is a caryatid. The article seems to accept the evolution from free-standing column in a the form of a woman (if that is accepted as the original meaning of the term though that deserves a section in itself) to the use of the human form as decoration. I think that is the right approach (if not, there needs to be a clear link to another article helpfully titled). There will be learned articles, and probably books, on the subject. AJHingston (talk) 12:48, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

testing, testing, 1,2,3 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.23.211.46 (talk) 21:48, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

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Files listed for deletion
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 * Thanks for the notification, but not really interested in preserving them. Carptrash (talk) 23:52, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Three articles
Somewhat out of your normal domain. Nevertheless, for your consideration 7&amp;6=thirteen (talk) 22:08, 31 January 2011 (UTC) Stan
 * Theo Jansen the BBC article is very good. Jansen is wee t'chd in the head, I think, but the line between genius and insanity is a fine one.
 * Mondo spider
 * Kinetic sculpture

The "I just resurrected" section of your talk page
I took you up on your invitation to add ("Feel free to add more") content to the above-referenced section. I put most people say after everyone knows rather than after The American People because I thought it fit in well there. I discovered that compilation on your user page several years ago, and refer to it often when cleaning up articles. All the best--Hokeman (talk) 03:26, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

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Hikers
Sure thing - happy to be of help. And thanks for introducing me to the sculpture - through it I learned a little something about National Register properties in Fall River. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:48, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Fair Use images on EN Wikipedia
Hello Carptrash. User:7&6=thirteen has suggested I should contact you in connection with problems related to Fair Use images on the EN Wikipedia. For a bit of background, you might like to look at the discussion on User_talk:Jameslwoodward.

I must say, I've had a quick look through some of your work and can find nothing to indicate you have uploaded Free Use images of modern buildings on Wikipedia (rather than Commons) to avoid problems related to countries without FOP (Freedom of Panorama) on Commons. If you have, I would appreciate to learn how you managed to cope and whether you can provide any general guidance. Together with some other Wikipedians, I am considering writing something up, perhaps initially on Wikiproject Architecture. It seems to me a great pity that there are so few photos of modern buildings in France, Germany and even Dubai because of the copyright problem.

If this is not exactly your line, just let me know. - Ipigott (talk) 10:26, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

And thanks for your interest in Architecture of Denmark. - Ipigott (talk) 21:17, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

Earl Young (architect)
Here is one right up your allée. 7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 21:38, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

WPB
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 * While not a word-for-word copy, much of the article was a close paraphrase of the source which is licensed under CC-BY-'NC-SA which prevents commercial reuse and thus we cannot use the material. VernoWhitney (talk) 15:05, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I think for starters that I will post here that the website, blog actually, that this material was taken from was mine, and I say it's okay. Now to deal with these folks.  Carptrash (talk) 16:19, 14 March 2011 (UTC)


 * You should look at the main page in about 7.5 hours - Pioneer Woman with picture should be posted then in the Did you know... section. ^_^ VernoWhitney (talk) 16:32, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

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yes, I'm a new editor
I'll add some sources. Thanks.

CLAinDC (talk) 20:10, 24 March 2011 (UTC)Carol

DYK for Pioneer Woman
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Eñe's
I noticed you like to add eñe's, you are about the only person I know to do that. You live in Espanola? 98.23.200.16 (talk) 06:23, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I live in Embudo, about 20 miles away. All the road signs around here use "ñ" so I feel that we should use it here too. Are you localish? Carptrash (talk) 06:38, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

Hello Bub
Einar! Good to hear from you! And congrats on all the DYK glory. If we could only come up with a way to BET on the number of DYK-related hits an article gets, in other words if we could turn wikipedia into a casino, we'd be in good shape. I remember that I owe you something about our friend Gordon and I have it halfway done, on back burner, until my mother gets out of the hospital (stroke, three strokes really, on 3/11). I'm editing here and there in the meantime as a distraction. Older brother in town and all that stuff too. Hope you're well & say hi to V.H. ..... --Lockley (talk) 06:52, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I wonder why there is no article here on starved classicism. (I know how you feel about red links.  Heh heh.  But I also know it's LATE in the evening.)  --Lockley (talk) 08:15, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

Nice Advice
I've finally created a page! And I do agree with the colors! Been here, done that. I've been working on the Espanola page, hope you can join. Maybe we need to add some more pictures that are updated? JHarrelson (talk) 22:01, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

Whispering Giants photos
Peter Toth, the creator of the Whispering Giants, is a friend of mine. He asked me to look into adding photos of all of his carvings to the entry that has been created. I am not familiar with wikipedia format. Was wondering if you would be willing to help post these pics. I think i have email activated on my account. Thx. (Techskilled (talk) 16:33, 7 April 2011 (UTC))

Talkback
--Guerillero &#124; My Talk  &#124; Review Me  00:33, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Can we please expand the article then add the images. Anything left over can be added at the bottom cheers --Guerillero &#124; My Talk  &#124; Review Me  01:35, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

I feel like I have been a dick to you. I would like to apologize for my actions. I hope you do not hold this against me in he future --Guerillero &#124; My Talk  &#124; Review Me  02:22, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Not at all. This is what the discussion pages are for.  Your duty as an editor is to respond to edits in a way that you feel produces a better article.  Sometimes even good faith edits need to be undone.  It is all about opinion, although that is such a dirty word around here.  Life is good. Carptrash (talk) 03:23, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

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I reverted back to "Espanola" because,
the United States Census refers Espanola, as Espanola. It is listed as "Espanola" on every government source. The discussion held previously had more for Espanola, than Española. Locals refer to it as Española, but everyone always can't have their way. I'm just doing what is right for this site. JHarrelson (talk) 03:08, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Reply
Hello. I will try to add information to Mexican War articles as I come across it. Though I've been reading Wikipedia for over 7 years, I've never edited the information before, so I am still unsure as to whether or not the information I come across is more valid than what is posted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CitizenKnowNothing (talk • contribs) 23:41, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Mora battlefields
Sure, I can get you information on the Mora battles when I get home. And thanks for the info, I really am just guessing at how to edit things on here. I haven't been to New Mexico in a long time, but the picture looks good (are there more than one?) CitizenKnowNothing (talk) 03:44, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Mora
I added information to the First Battle of Mora page. Unfortunately I don't see anything resembling the page for the Second Battle of Mora in the book I'm reading, but the book continues on from the first battle: "January 30th, the camp of Capt. Robinson was surprised, and tow hundred horses and mules driven off, and one man killed and two wounded. Major Edmonson marched to his relief from Vegas, and afterward followed the banditti into a dangerous canyon of the Canadian River at the mouth of the Mora; he reported, ‘the hills around them literally covered with Indians and Mexicans,’ estimated to be above four hundred. He fought his way through with much difficulty; but having to return the next day through the same canyon, he found ‘that the enemy had left on the night after the battle in great haste, leaving horses, cattle, camp equipage, etc., not taking time to scalp or strip our men lost in the action, as is their custom.’ He pursued, but found that they had dispersed after dividing their spoil. The enemy’s loss was reported to be forty-one killed.” - page 123

Hope that helps. CitizenKnowNothing (talk) 04:41, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Fort
If I were looking for such a thing, I would contact all the local museums and ask them about it. If anyone would have such rare information, it would be them. CitizenKnowNothing (talk) 05:35, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

When I finish the current book I'll search for one that's more focused on New Mexico for you. I'm an Arizona resident so I've been picking journals from the Mormon Battalion and General Kearny's detachment that rode along the Gila River. Unfortunately for me, Arizona is one of the least significant territories that was campaigned in during the Mexican-American War...the Mormons built a road and captured Tucson without a fight (not very fun for reenacting). CitizenKnowNothing (talk) 22:18, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Sure... I can post the only Battalion monument I have so far, it's at Picacho Peak, AZ. Not sure I know how to make a photo section, though. CitizenKnowNothing (talk) 22:56, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

I'm in Chandler, the southeast rural part of Phoenix. CitizenKnowNothing (talk) 22:57, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

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Jim Gordon (musician)
You need to read Biographies of living persons. Unsourced contentious material must be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion, and this most definitely includes allegations of murder and serious mental illness. We don't mess around with "citation needed" tags for this kind of content. You can only restore the material if you add good quality references for it. The burden is on the editor who wants to add this material to justify its inclusion, not me to justify removing it. Hut 8.5 23:55, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Several of those, especially and  do not look like appropriate sources for this type of material (see Biographies of living persons). I've added some material to the article myself on this subject with proper sourcing. Hut 8.5 12:28, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
 * OK, I understand. Good luck to your friend. Hut 8.5 16:22, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Re: Richmond sculpture: I think it's the answer you were looking for
There are two old Union Stations in Richmond (and a smaller two, but with no sculpture), so I'll try for both. The clock at Main Street Station (Richmond, Virginia) seems to be terra cotta, which is easily manufactured off-site and mass-produced (like ornamental cast-iron) Several of my guidebooks which feature it, and the NatReg Nomination, give no clue there : (. The other is the Broad Street Station (Richmond). While the National Register is silent, "Buildings of Virginia: Tidewater and Piedmont" has the sculptor for the building as one U. Ricci (it notes the figures are Progress and Industry). Given the time period in which the building was done and the scale of the commission, that the architect was John Russell Pope, I am taking it to be this guy: Ulysses Ricci, which in a strange (or perhaps not so strange) coincidence, the page history shows that you yourself created! ; ) Hopefully this is of some use? Moreso, do you want a full citation for it? Morgan Riley (talk) 20:54, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

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Gladys Caldwell Fisher
My pleasure. Excellent article; I had not heard of her, and I thought I knew a fair number of American women sculptors. :-) -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 17:15, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm the quickest draw in the east (Coast, that is), and I don't get a lot of sleep. :-) Another excellent article; I'm looking at Elsie Ward now. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 13:26, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Aaaaand done. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 13:27, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Hello back
How about I take out "Irish American" in front of Jerome Connor (who was born, worked as an old man and died in Ireland). Here is the reference that I found:

http://annascaul.net/jerome-conor-sculptor/

and I will also put this reference in also.

Nobody will disagree that both men's art have a similarity.

Look forward to hearing you.

Glic16 (talk) 13:37, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

No problem!
Enjoy your guests! :) We hope (talk) 00:37, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * When you can have the boss over and have a great time, what's not to like? :) Good luck with the EP! 00:19, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue LXIII, May 2011
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So I heard
Someone crying foul?

An email to the Rio Grande Sun, the gossip newspaper of Espanola, New Mexico. I read your reports on how you gave false information about what was discussed on here. Nice way of twisting everything up, hope to hear from you in the future. JHarrelson (talk) 21:50, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I hope that this is soon enough for you. I will post the same thing on your talk page to improve the chance of your seeing it.  I am about to post the email that I sent the SUN and expect you to inform me (feel free to uses bold font to do so) which part of it is "false information" and what has been "twisted."  Hope to hear from you in the future.
 * Hi,
 * Hi,


 * I am a New Mexico Wikipedian who is engaged in a nasty fight on wikipedia over how to spell the name of the city of Española. My argument is with an editor who considers New Mexico Magazine to not be a credible source and also will not accept my email from the NM Secretary of State either.


 * His claim is that Española was founded by Anglos in the 1880s and they spelled it Espanola. He further claims that the name was never changed over to Española and thus the wikipedia article should be called “Espanola, New Mexico".  My posting pictures of road signs, school buildings etc have not changed his mind.  Not wanting to get into an edit war with him I have backed off but am now looking for an historically verifiable source as to the correct spelling of the town’s name and hope that you can help me out.

So, again, which part of this is "false" and which part "twisted"? Carptrash (talk) 23:09, 6 June 2011 (UTC)


 * When I went to post this reply at JHarrelson I discovered that he had been blocked - though for reasons, I believe, having nothing to do with our issue. Oh well. Carptrash (talk) 23:36, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Dudley Talcott
I'm not, actually - you just managed to catch me at a lucid moment prior to toddling off to bed. :-) Excellent work, as usual - another fellow I'd not heard of before. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 05:19, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Precision Bass players list
All the entries on the list need to have a verifiable, reliable source which is properly cited. Citing Wikipedia itself will not suffice, because anyone can change entries; there needs to be some sort of more authoritative reference. Being "well policed by editors who care what instrument is being played" is a great thing, but it is no substitute for reliable sources. Ordinary readers, as well as Wikipedians who do not work on the article, have no idea whether or not the list is accurate, or from where the information is derived. That is why citing reliable references is so important. Neutralitytalk 18:52, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
 * A photo would probably work. But every name on there needs some sort of source - we can't relying on readers trusting anonymous contributors. As far as "ignore all rules," the necessity for verifiable, reliable sources is fundamental: It is one of the Core content policies, and is a principle rather than a rule. What "Ignore all rules" means may be of assistance. Neutralitytalk 19:47, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Speaking of Talcott
Hi! I noticed you shared your new article about Dudley Talcott on the Outcomes page. While I think it's great that you are writing new articles about American art-related subjects, our Outcomes page is only for subjects related directly to our collection and utilizes our archives for the article. I took a look at Talcott and noticed we don't have anything directly related to him within our Archives. I feel dreadful having to tell you, but, that's how it goes with this project. Thank you though for your art contribution, it just unfortunately doesn't fall into the scope of the AAA project :( SarahStierch (talk) 18:53, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Manfred Mann EPs
Thanks very much for your efforts in this direction. Hope you will also cover "Instrumental Assassinations"! Redheylin (talk) 23:13, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Cahokia
Hi. I see that you recently removed an anon edit that appears to have been a good-faith edit (it seems a reasonable argument that a flat surface can't have erosion) but did not make any comments (e.g., "Citation needed") about the rest of the content of the paragraph, which is unsupported by any reference. Now, recalling when I dug on the Powell Tract, I don't think that the area is completely flat and I also think some kind of erosion might occur even on flat areas (but I'm an archaeologist and not a soil scientist), and I think the other ideas in the apragraph make archaeological sense considering various data, but simply as it stands it is not as tight an argument >logically< as what you cut. I don't have access to current literature, but maybe you can give a ref. to bolster the paragraph. Kdammers (talk) 10:31, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Sculpture of the United States
Kindly have some input here:, thanks...Modernist (talk) 03:37, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

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Archives of American Art Update!
Hi! I just wanted to deliver a little news about the Archives of American Art partnership project! We have released our amazing barnstar to the world, learn how you can earn one here! We will be having a Backstage Pass tour later this month which will be announced this week, and an upcoming contest in which major contributors can win some amazing goodies from the Archives and Smithsonian, allowing for international involvement! Thanks again for your interest and I look forward to your continued participation in this ongoing project to better coverage on American art history on Wikipedia! SarahStierch (talk) 18:11, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

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Clarification needed for File:Florek-wikipedia.jpg
Hi there. I found File:Florek-wikipedia.jpg when I was looking through Category:Wikipedia license migration needs review. The source explanation, "This photograph is from a non-copywrighted program from when Florek was a student at Eastern Michigan University." is a bit too vague. Was this a photo of him acting in a performance, or is this scanned in from a playbill? If you could fill out an entire Template:Information and stick it in there, that would be ideal.  S ven M anguard  Wha?  21:18, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Anna-H-Hunt---El-Cid-1
hi, i note they are putting your picture up for deletion here, apparantly they migrated it to commons, and are now deleting. i migrated it back, and put a FU 3D on it. Slowking4 : 7@1|x 15:21, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Responding to query about Pullman Memorial Universalist Church
My apologies if I have gotten it wrong. My research for the Wiki article on the Pullman Church in Albion kept repeating Old English Gothic and Richardsonian Romanesque in the descriptions. Since you asked, I went out on the net to discover what the elements are of each and I think I have an answer.

The following style elements common to Richardsonian Romanesque are present in the Pullman Church: archivolt and compound arch main entrance door frame, semicircular arched windows - transom windows in a ribbon pattern - lining the top of the dome, rock-faced rough stone walls. The building features short, imposing, solid walls. Other elements of this style include short octagonal tower, squat chimneys, asymmetry, deep windows. All of these are exterior design elements. The Old English Gothic appears to be referring to how the interior was laid out and decorated.

If you do not feel that the church fits your article then I will remove the back link to your article from mine and remove my addition to your page. I'm not an architect, just writing and posting what the historians told me about the building.Pmucpastor (talk) 04:19, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

If you are unsure then it is good form to get another opinion. Thanks.Pmucpastor (talk) 04:40, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

I just ran across this entry while doing more research... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orleans_County_Courthouse_Historic_District

Halfway down the page is a section called "Three Churches" and the 4th paragraph uses the Richardsonian Romanesque description for the Pullman church. The footnote source seems to be my same historian, however, so I don't know if that's helpful.Pmucpastor (talk) 04:52, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

Here is the text from the National Register of Historic Places Inventory form at http://www.oprhp.state.ny.us/hpimaging/hp_view.asp?GroupView=6751

"Albion's finest church is the Pullman Memorial Universalist Church. It was built in 1894 to the designs of Solon S. Beman (1853-1914), a Chicago architect who had been a student of Richard Upjohn and who was in particular demand as a designer of churches. Beman was also the architect George Pullman chose to build his railroad car manufacturing town in Illinois…Pullman agreed to erect this church at his own expense and put Beman in charge of the work. The building is a modified Richardsonian Romanesque (pointed arches replace the broad round arches Richardson favored) and, as with most of the other churches in the district, is a rather late manifestation of its style. Beman perceived the sympathy possible between rough hewn Median sandstone and the simple forms and heavy proportions of the Richardsonian style. The result is a compact, centralized building with a tower vaguely reminiscent of that over the crossing of Richardson's Trinity Church (1872) in Boston. The unpolished texture of the stone, the emphatic mural character of the design in which unfolded windows reveal the thickness of the fabric, and the composition of distinct units that are unified by strong horizontality and subordination to the crossing tower are the in the best Richardsonian tradition. Also like Richardson's churches, exterior massiveness and sobriety give way to spaciousness and color on the interior where Tiffany stained glass in rich hues of blues and purple combine with warm golden oak which is used for the beamed ceiling." Pmucpastor (talk) 05:19, 22 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your reply. I am still curious to know Wetman's opinion if he responds. Oh, and thanks for etiquette protocols and encouragement. Learning how to do this Wiki thing has been quite daunting. I have a huge appreciation now for any and all editors involved with this encyclopedia! Pmucpastor (talk) 17:35, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

Fisher & Fisher
I see you started a stub on Alan Fisher (architect), part of Fisher & Fisher. I was wondering about starting article at the latter, possibly with redirects from individual architects (primary ones seem to be Arthur Addison Fisher and William Ellsworth Fisher) to that. Happy to defer to you if you want to proceed on developing coverage of these, any way. -- do ncr  am  17:38, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Letters from Russian Prisons
No problem. Thanks for writing the article. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 05:08, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

File:Franciscan-Hotel.jpg listed for deletion
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 * Replied there - still don't think it meets the WP:NFCC criteria, but I found and uploaded a free image of the same building, so I think (and hopefully you'd agree) the old image can be deleted now that it's been replaced. Calliopejen1 (talk) 16:55, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
 * By the way, it's an awesome building - pity it's been demolished. Maybe I'll try to improve Pueblo Revival Style architecture one of these days... Calliopejen1 (talk) 16:59, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

Suggestion for WikiProject United States to support WikiProject New Mexico
It was recently suggested that WikiProject New Mexico, to which you are a member, may be inactive or semi-active and it might be beneficial to include it in the list of projects supported by WikiProject United States. After reviewing the project it appears that there haven't been much active discussion on the talk page in some time and the only content updates appear to be simple maintenance so being supported by a larger project might be beneficial. I have begun a discussion on the projects talk page to see how the members of the project feel about this suggestion. Another user has added the project to the WPUS template and I added it to the list of supported projects in the WPUS main project page but before I take any further action I wanted to contact each of the active members for their input. --Kumioko (talk) 14:46, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

File permission problem with File:LittleLeague.jpg
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Good work
Good job on Territorial architecture! You're right, that was kind of a glaring hole. Camerafiend (talk) 23:33, 11 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Great job on Territorial architecture. I never meant for that to be a permanent redirect, but hadn't found the time to do anything with it. Thanks for picking up the ball.   Acroterion   (talk)   23:48, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

Thank you all. I have a day planned in Santa Fe in a couple of weeks, so, while my partner does a day long.... thing, I'll be off looking for Territorial and Revival architecture. Life is good. Carptrash (talk) 02:04, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

Talkback
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Taos Revolt
Good reminder not to pick up on other's edits. Sorry, I usually check the sources myself. I'll delete the Apache content. My radar must not have been on.Parkwells (talk) 21:23, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

Architectural sculpture
Sorry - I thought "monumental sculpture" fell under that category, for lack of a better. I don't know her work hardly at all - I don't mind removing the category.

Happy to oblige otherwise. :-) -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 22:02, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Don't worry about it. I'm only human...unless I'm a bot.  Which I may be.  I don't know.  I don't think I'm a bot.

This is all too metaphysical for a Wednesday afternoon... -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 22:09, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I prefer sleep, honestly. At any time. :-) -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 00:23, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

September 2011 Newsletter for WikiProject United States
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Re: fix
You're always welcome, my friend! :-) We hope (talk) 23:35, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Categories for discussion nomination of Category:Conductors who died while conducting
Category:Conductors who died while conducting, which you created, has been nominated for discussion. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 03:28, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Great idea.    <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 15:30, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
 * At least three conductors listed in the article who need to be included in the category. I also left you a message on my talk page.   <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 15:45, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

Sculpture in paints
When one “talks about layers within Leonardo’s painting” I sit back and smile inside, because to me “when speaking of Layers and Leonardo, da Vinci in the same text, means the process of Sculpture within the paint, there is no way in the world in my opinion one can understand Leonardo’s work until they under what sculpture means and meant to “Leonardo and paint”, This process was used in all of Leonardo’s Masterpieces. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mwd200 (talk • contribs) 15:00, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

Oliver Hazard Perry
Carp, Please take a look and see if the sculptures and architectural stuff need further amplification. Thanks. <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 15:48, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I did find an image on line of a monumental scupture of Perry in a hall. It may be at the Internatioal Perry memorial.   <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 15:50, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

The monument section looks great. I will try and dig up some sculptor's names. Carptrash (talk) 15:55, 8 September 2011 (UTC) Charles H. Niehaus, William Greene Turner and William Wolcott. images of Oliver Hazard Perry scuptures <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 16:08, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I am struggling a bit with William Wolcott, who seems to have been dead for 30 years when this monument was done. Perhaps a son?  Carptrash (talk) 16:16, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
 * It should be William Walcutt and .... it it's a mess. there are two Perry Monuments squished into one.  Or something like that.Carptrash (talk) 16:18, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

Morphine (band)
Lead singer Mark Sandman died while on stage in Italy. Bummer. He was really good. <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 15:59, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Keith Relf died (electrocuted) during rehearsal. I think that counts.  Carptrash (talk) 16:03, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Rock and Roll Heaven  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 18:04, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

a lot of heart attacks there, but only (as far as I cold see) Tiny Tim had one on stage. Carptrash (talk) 18:43, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
 * There were a lot of them that died going to and from their gigs. Plane and auto crashes.  E.g,,The day the music died.    <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 19:24, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Plane crashes. That leads to the "Dead Musicians Directory" which points out that Stuart Sutcliff (almost a Beatle) got hit in the head after a erpformacne and died of a cerebral hemorage.   <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 20:19, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

From the foregoing source: Leslie "Les" Harvey: Age 27 Stone The Crows (b. 1946, d. 3 May 1972). Leslie Harvey younger brother of Alex first recorded work was on an Alex Harvey LP called " The blues" in 1964 when Leslie was 16 years old. He joined his brothers band and from then until the formation of Stone The Crows in 1966. The quintet's early blues-based albums were notable for both Maggie Bell and Jimmy Dewar's expressive vocals and Leslie Harvey's textured, economic guitar work. However, an inability to match their live popularity with record sales led to disaffection and both John McGuinness and Dewar left on completing ODE TO JOHN LAW. On 3 May 1972, Leslie Harvey died after being electrocuted onstage at Swansea's Top Rank Ballroom. Although the group completed a fourth album with Jimmy McCulloch from Thunderclap Newman, they lacked the heart to continue and broke up the following year.

Country Dick Montana: Age 40 (b. Carmel, CA, in 1955, d. November 8, 1995, in British Columbia, Canada) Beat Farmers Country Dick was more than some guy who'd fall off stage and drench you in his beer and sweat. Dick was also a visionary who predicted the current wave of Vegas chic long before Dean Martin became hip again, as well as being a twisted version of a high school cheerleader whose infectious optimism and sincere passion for music made him a continual inspiration of the California and national music scenes. He was a brave and tough mother, not only in how he faced some of the rowdiest audiences to walk in to a bar room, but also how he fought cancer the last few years. Then again, strange as it sounds, Dick was one of the sweetest guys I ever knew. Several years ago, at maybe the lowest point in my life, Dick was one of three people who stopped me from quitting music out of depression and frustration. I will always owe him for that and I will always miss him. Adios compadre. -Dave Alvin. On a cold November night in 1995, Country Dick Montana was on-stage at the Long Horn bar, doing what he loved most, performing, when he collapsed and died. He was only 40 years old, and his solo career was barely out of the starting gate. He had finished recording his excellent solo debut album only weeks before his sudden death  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 20:28, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

wikipeetia
http://www.wikipeetia.org/Vasilii_Ulrikh Very funny. <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 20:49, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

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Thank you!
Thank you very much for your Thumbs Up award. It is very much appreciated. Best wishes to you! :) Osarius : T : C : Been CSD'd? 15:37, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

They don't call me
the fastest gun in the east for nothing. (Actually, they don't call me the fastest gun in the east at all, but that's beside the point.) -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 20:15, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
 * That. Is.  Awesome.  Thank you.  I shall frame it and mount it.  And now, for you:




 * (To the shade of Harriet Hosmer, wherever she be: I am SO, SO sorry. Please don't haunt me.) -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 21:43, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

Harriet Hosmer Congratulations. <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 22:53, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Thank you very much, can I do that Default thing with all articles or is that just for biography articles? I always wondered what that Default sort thing was, sounds like it could make this little project of mine alot easier. Thanks again.--$1LENCE D00600D (talk) 21:48, 13 September 2011 (UTC)


 * I got it now, this is great, I do many edits involving the category links/articles and it is a hassle having to to the "((Category:Arthritis in my hands|Arthritis))" thing. Thanks a bunch.--$1LENCE D00600D (talk) 21:54, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Rabbits in the arts‎
For your consideration. Do you speak German? <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 22:56, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Outline of sculpture
Did you mean for this edit to be part of the outlines RfC? I think you accidentally put it into a different poll. Ozob (talk) 00:09, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

Jicarilla Apache
Hello, I saw that you've weighed-in several times over the years about the Battle of Cieneguilla. I added a new item to the talk page and would be interested in your comments. Thanks!--CaroleHenson (talk) 23:59, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

thanks for the help at Poshuouinge
De nada, Very interesting new article actually, thanks for that! Lovely picture too..♦ Dr. Blofeld  21:05, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

I added a bit, detailed information here.♦ Dr. Blofeld  21:24, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

Great new pics. Can you check Howiri, Te'ewi, ‎Sapawe, New Mexico, Pesedeuinge, Hupobi for errors, expand any of them?♦ Dr. Blofeld  17:38, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

Jim Gary - Sculpture article
Thanks, I appreciate your willingness to reconsider and especially for your patience to explore further with an open mind. I was going to drop the objection to the elimination of the sentence... just to avoid conflict. Figured that since the sentence had stood for so long, it would be foolish to try a rewrite. I will if it doesn't sit well... _ _ _ _ 83d40m (talk) 02:08, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

hello
Hello I do not know who I am talking to as I am not very literate with this technology. But thanks very much for your message which I managed to find! I see you are suggesting that I create a new user name to add that nice piece I added on racism! I do not really know how to create a new user name - it was a fluke that I even managed to make this user name to do edits! I am wondering now if I add only half of the material that I had created at the racism site - and leave out the last few sentences, if this will be OK? Then I will leave out the link. I just thought a website link is nice because it allows readers to immediately get to a page. But I can leave that out. And maybe I can just direct readers to the section on covert racism in the encyclopedia. I think that the ending as it is with that quote from Faegin in the USA is too abrupt an ending to the material on sociological definitions. So I think that something is needed there. And that is why I added also a reference to my book which is recent and which deals with contemporary forms of racism. I am now going to proceed with doing this and I hope you don't mind. If you do, you can always delete again! All good wishes to you, Norma

Sorry I do not know what you mean about signing out with 4 tildes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Norma Romm (talk • contribs) 15:16, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

hello again from Norma
hello again from Norma. As you can see I am not fully literate and I do not kno wwhat it means to end the message with four tildes. Does it means I just go Norma Romm 15:46, 3 October 2011 (UTC) at the end?

Anyway, I changed the material on racism again - I feel that something is needed after that quote fromn Faegin that ends quite abrutply and also is about the USA. Also I ended with a note saying that from a sociological perspective ideally the aim is to seek ways of transforming social structures. I hope that you find it OK now. The idea of my creating a new user name is not ideal (as I suppose it means asking a friend or something to create a name and then make edits or my pretending to be someone else). This seems to be a weakness in the conflict of interest policy - as then you have no way of tracking the actual people. Anyway, I tried to keep things "neutral" while also updating the information on sociological definitions.

Thanks for your advice,

norma — Preceding unsigned comment added by Norma Romm (talk • contribs) 15:46, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

thanks I will try the tide key now.
Hello Carptrash

I think I will try to add something after that Faegin quote about police brutality in the USA that says that racism is often less blatant .... at the moment I think that that quote is not a good ending to the section.

I will now do this without mentioning my book on new racism!

But I think it is a pity because that book offers lots of definitions of different forms of racism ... and so fits nicely in that section.

Anyway, I will try to construct a sentence that says something about more covert forms of racism .... now I will try to sign off with the tides. Let's see if it works. Norma Romm 12:27, 4 October 2011 (UTC) Is that working for you? I held down the shift key and pressed the tide key 4 times but I cannot make out how this helps. Does this convert into my signature somehow. Sorry that I am slightly illiterate with this technology!

thanks for your help,

Norma Romm 12:27, 4 October 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Norma Romm (talk • contribs)

Classical references added for the Augustan solarium.

Many references of course for fasces (conveniently omitted by e.g. the Lincoln Memorial handbook) - but those are self-evident.

Not sure whether there has been modern discussion of the ideological concerns raised by the Washington Mall and its relationship to ancient Rome. Interestingly, the original designs indicate a design similar to the Cinquantenaire Park in Belgium - replete with Masonic themes!

Yours,

Umbricius — Preceding unsigned comment added by Umbricius (talk • contribs) 19:22, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

You're always welcome ;-)
I try to put in some time at backlog every day to keep things from getting "plunked", if possible, :-) We hope (talk) 04:28, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

I may not be trainable in terms of using this system of communication
Hi dear Carptrash

Thanks very much for your message that I received and then I pressed the edit function there so that the "show preview" box would appear and then I looked at my message and I sent if off. But I don't know if it reached you. When I looked at "my contributions" (later) I see that that message is under my name (norma romm talk) and not your name (as were the others - that is Carptrash talk). But the only thing that did work nicely was the 4 tildes that converted into my name. Anyway, I am curious to know if you can read that message that I created just after your message on my talk page. That way I was able to convert the tildes into Norma Romm (the machine did it automatically). Now I will sign too via those tildes but I think because I am using the "new message" function by your name it will not work (because it did not work last time). Anyway, sorry to trouble you with my illiteracy ... but thanks for all your attention to my messages and your trying to help. And don't worry if we cannot make further progress! With all good wishes from me, Norma Romm 15:35, 7 October 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Norma Romm (talk • contribs)

you succesfully taught me to do the 4 tildes signing
hi again dear Carptrash

Well I see with interest that the message I left for you a few seconds ago did have my name at the end ... and I had used the 4 tildes - so the machine did indeed do the automatic conversion.

Anyway, thanks again for your time and it is nice to "meet" you virtually!

With good wishes from me and have a good weekend!

Norma Romm 15:38, 7 October 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Norma Romm (talk • contribs)

Bill Smith (Fell runner)
CT, I submitted this new article for a DYK. Please take a look. Thanks. <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 19:36, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

re freddie dreamers
this band is directly associated with freddie and the dreamers as it contains the best friend of FRreddie Garrity namely Nick Foti who ran the last remaining set of Dreamers for Freddie for six years until his retirement and early death in 2006g. He owns Freddies guitar which was left to him and signed to him as " to my best friend Nick Foti" .this is amongst many manuscripts and original emi recordigs and trophies that were also left to Nick Foti... The Kasuals do a proper and fitting tribute to Freddie and his music and if you wish to see any of this evidence, you are very welcome to visit anytime. I hope this clarifies the link....many thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tiktaktaylor (talk • contribs) 11:31, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

re freddie and dreamers
yes but that is why it is an external link. its not just promo, its part of the history .. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tiktaktaylor (talk • contribs) 14:46, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

Gal Oya riots
Very few people care about these events in human history. So when they do and I happen to see it, just reacted. Thanks Kanatonian (talk)
 * Sometimess, those who care, care for all the wrong reasons, needing to protect the image of the "race" or country being one or to make the event look even more "bad" than it was. I for one grew up in Colombo during the 1980's riots and saw people getting killed infront of my eyes while sheltering in a helpful families home. My strugle was to keep a distant point of view (neutral, balanced) while writing about these. Even now I catch myself (or helpful others) not sticking to it, but when it is pointed out, it isnot difficult to correct.


 * Do you help in copy editing ? Kanatonian (talk) 15:11, 16 October 2011 (UTC)


 * This is my latest, Tamil Brahmi or Arumuka Navalar, which ever one you are interested in c/e.Thanks for the help.Kanatonian (talk) 04:19, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Taking the Nobel Prize off the mantle and putting this in its place
Thanks for the Thumbs Up Award, Carptrash. All smiles here! Ewulp (talk) 01:40, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents
Socks out to dry, cheers. WilliamH (talk) 05:35, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

rubric - from men's rights
it's more at sense 2 of rubric. the academic use is actually a derivative of that (one starts out with a rubric for what will be studied in a course, and that same rubric is then turned around to measure what was learned). If you think the word needs to be linked, I suggest you link it to the wiktionary definition. -- Ludwigs 2 15:56, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

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Lincoln Tomb and War Memorials
Recently you deleted information about the Vietnam Veterans Memorial. We here at Lincoln Tomb feel that that was injustly done. I am the Volunteer Coordinator and I supervised the writing of the information about the Memorials. It is not plagiarized! We have used newspaper articles from the dedication and the "Illinois Vietnam Veterans Memorial Dedication" booklet to cull our facts. If you would like for me to put in footnotes/endnotes that we referenced, please let me know. The Vietnam Memorial is very much a part of the three memorials, and we strongly feel that you should put back the information that I provided.

Tombvolunteer (talk) 14:58, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

File:Waddesdon-try.jpg listed for deletion
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The Bugle: Issue LXVII, September 2011
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Abraham de Peyster
Yes, it was moved in 1972, then appeared in another city park from 1976 to 2003. Its now stowed away, and has been since around 2004, they aren't sure what they are going to do with it. See this great recent summary in the Times:. cheers.--Milowent • <sup style="position:relative">has<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">spoken 21:40, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

WLL
Hi Einar! Thanks for putting together the Wikipedia Loves Library event in MN. It'd be grand to have a report about it (no matter how short or long) for This Month in GLAM. I do hope you or another attendee can provide a description of how the event went, outcomes and perhaps images (with links to any Wiki space). Please visit here and contribute if you can. It can be in the main features or the briefly section. Thanks again for coordinating the event and for contributing to Wikipedia :) SarahStierch (talk) 20:48, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

File:Standing Woman 2.jpg
hi, sorry about that deletion. i was gonna warn you it might be an image too far. if you reload it use the 75px as an example of the non free 3D art; box checking rationale. Slowking4 : 7@1|x 02:49, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
 * hey i didn't touch that image, that was ImageRemovalBot. i've lost many a battle to the image nazis; as you see, they delete without notice. word to the wise, check the boxes, keep the image. be ready for round two, rationale. Slowking4 : 7@1|x 01:48, 3 November 2011 (UTC)