User talk:Carriearchdale/Archives/2014/February

Lyme Wars
Thanks for coming in and helping. I am not very good at Wikipedia (yet?) editing.

If you look at my sandbox, you can see where I was trying to head. I have 40-50 sections in the sandbox, and expert help can make this an excellent article. User:Bob the goodwin/sandbox

The Sceptical Chymist actually put the page up, but was working from my research. I appreciate any help to get that article complete. Bob the goodwin (talk) 09:04, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Athiyur
Hi there, just wanted to say thanks for all the work you've done cleaning up the Athiyur article. I have been trying to do this for months now, but the content seems to keep being re-added to article. I know you have asked questions about the article and the editor who keeps reverting and asking for edit protection. I have tried to explain to that editor in the edit summary and on his talk page why his edits were being removed or edited, but I don't think he fully understands how Wikipedia works. I get the impression he thinks that whatever he adds should stay, regardless of other editors or policy. The editor has even added welcome messages and holiday greetings to the reader, so I obviously haven't been able to get through to him. I'm thinking the difference in languages has something to do with this, as what makes no sense to me may make complete sense to him causing him to be annoyed when he gets reverted. Regardless of all this, I think it's obvious he is trying to contribute to the article in good faith, so it's not a bad idea to leave him a message if you happen to have to revert his edits. Anyways, like I said above, good work getting this cleaned up. Cmr08 (talk) 22:17, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the note Cmr08. I had just left you a note on your talk page. I am nearing the completion of my copy-edit work on the article Athiyur, and I am hopeful that there will be no more problems with inappropriate material, text, or images being added to the article by any editor. Of course all editors are welcome to edit the article, but I really hope we all have the same goal of improving the article and Wikipedia. I hope everyone has a great day today! Carriearchdale (talk) 22:25, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

...and btw Cmr08, thank you for noticing my copy edit work, and you are quite welcome! Carriearchdale (talk) 22:27, 5 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I seen the note. I think we were both messaging each other at the same time. Like I said above, I think this has more to do with not understanding how Wikipedia works, but considering he made no attempt to discuss and has been re-adding removed content without explaination, I don't really know what the story is. In situations like this, it's always best to assume good faith until we have a reason to assume otherwise. We will have to see how he reacts to the copy edits. Cmr08 (talk) 22:35, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Niotso - A Game Engine Recreation


The article Niotso - A Game Engine Recreation has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * Non-notable software. Also, the writer is using Wikipedia to communicate directly to readers in violation of WP:NOTWEBHOST.

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. —Largo Plazo (talk) 03:10, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

I have chosen to attempt to prevent the proposed deletion by removing the proposed deletion notice, and explained why in the edit summaries. (re-listed here for clarity) rm proposed deletion tag - software is unique and is notable. Niotso is a game recreation engine software used to recreate game engine for the retired video game The SimsOnline https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_game_engine_recreations) and The WP:NOTWEBHOST issue is currently being addressed as per the under construction/major restructuring tag on the article. Thank you.

Carriearchdale (talk) 03:58, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Tyop Contest judging
Hi there Carriearchdale!

Thanks for your interest in being a judge :)

I would teach you how to add the diffs of the corrections to the Entries page, but we currently have a huge backlog of diffs that need to be judged so I don't think that's necessary at the moment.

So, pretty much, here's what you need to know before you start judging:

Read the page for the Tyop Contest. It's not that long, I promise ;) Make sure to pay special attention to the 'Rules' section. I've only seen the +2 bonus (fixing possession) occur, but the other bonuses could and probably will happen.

Ok, let's move on to the actual judging :) You can find the Entries page at Tyop Contest/Entries. If you scroll down you'll see all of the contestants and a list of the diffs. Anything with a checkmark after it has already been verified by a judge.

Find a user who hasn't had some entries judged yet. Go into edit mode for that user's entries, and preview. Now, begin opening the un-checked diffs. I advise opening multiple diffs at once (I personally do anywhere from 5-20) by hovering your mouse over the 'diff' link and pressing command (on a Mac, not sure about other computers).

If you see that an edit deserves one point, add " ✅ " after the diff link. I chose 'aye' because it's small. If you see an edit that deserves two points, put " ✅ +2" This signifies that the user got two points. If they got three points do +3, if they got four do +4, and so on.

If a user corrects the same typo multiple times on the same article, they get the number of points accordingly. So if I correct 'somtimes' to 'sometimes' four times, I get +4.

If you notice that an edit isn't a valid typo correction for any reason, add " ❌ " after the entry.

If you aren't sure if a typo correction is valid, put " " after the entry with a reason for why you aren't sure. These edits will be checked later.

You don't really need to worry about the 'Current Score:' at the top of the users' section, but if you want to you can update it.

I think that's it! If you have any questions reply here, I'll put your talk page on my watchlist :)

Thanks and I'm really looking forward to having you as a judge! Newyorkadam (talk) 05:25, 6 February 2014 (UTC)Newyorkadam

P.S. I think it'd be helpful if I went through one example with you, so here goes:


 * 1) I see that Jamesmcmahon0 has some un-judged entries. I press 'edit source' at the top of his section. Without changing anything, I then press 'Show preview' at the bottom of the edit box.
 * 2) I see that his 110th edit on the 'Joseph Wölfl' article has not yet been checked. I open up the diff link (at the end of the entry) in a new tab (I explain opening tabs above).
 * 3) I notice that he changed 'german' to 'German', which is a valid correction. It does not have a bonus.
 * 4) I go back to James's edit page and find the 'Joseph Wölfl' entry. I go to the end of the entry and add " ✅ ".
 * 5) That's it! I save the page, and I'm done with that edit :) Good luck!

Nomination of Niotso - A Game Engine Recreation for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Niotso - A Game Engine Recreation is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Niotso - A Game Engine Recreation until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. —Largo Plazo (talk) 11:33, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Niotso - A Game Engine Recreation
In lieu of deletion, I have userfied the above noted article to User:Carriearchdale/Niotso. This was done due to unambiguous promotional content and original research. Note that placing an "underconstruction" template on the article is not sufficient to forgo meeting the minimum requirements for inclusion in the encyclopedia. It is not enough to blindly assert that something is notable, lacking any indication stating how or why the subject is significant or important. The subject requires significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. The only source provided was an internal link to another Wikipedia article. As user-generated content, the encyclopedia does not meet the threshold for reliability. At the same time, a search for sources to support the article content only resulted in the Niotso wiki. I recommend opting to work on the draft in your userspace. When you believe the article appropriately establishes notability for the subject, I would suggest submitting it for review to the Articles for Creation team. If you have questions, please feel free to contact me. Best regards, Cindy  ( talk ) 11:58, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

FYI
User_talk:Athiyurbala. 3 hours- the shortest I have ever seen. Will Athiyurbala get it... Seen this page: WP:UTM? I use um-test if someone breaks something. Happy editing! Jim1138 (talk) 16:51, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks
Hi Carriearchdale. Thanks for reviewing Adam and Eve (public house). Yes, the article is short at the moment but I believe there are multiple secondary sources to improve the article (including finding a conclusive date of earliest record to a tavern on its site, either 1241 or 1249). May I ask your reason for tagging the article as an advertisement, and how I can solve that issue? Best, Duffit  talk 14:40, 8 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi Duffit,

The one external link you have listed on the article is also used as an inline citation in the article.

http://www.thegoodpubguide.co.uk/pub/view/Adam-&-Eve-NR3-1RZ

That site appears to be done in a promotional or advertisy writing style. Perhaps you could a different source to verify the saxon well. I think that having that link in the external links is probably okay, but if it were possible to have a source for the citation from a different secondary or tertiary source,that would be most ideal! Anyways I do very much like the way you have put the list together. If you have any more questions, or if I can help in any way with the article please do not hesitate to ask... I hope you a have a very great Saturday.

Cheers!!! Carriearchdale (talk) 14:57, 8 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the super quick response, Carriearchdale. :) I've completely excised the inline citations to the Good Pub Guide, but kept it as an external link as the GPG is a nationally known directory of pubs in the UK. I replaced the citation to the Saxon well to the Eastern Daily Press newspaper source. Does that solve the advertising issue? Hope you have a lovely Saturday too :). Best, Duffit  talk 15:28, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks again
I know that there is a way to put a link into talk pages that gives you a notification, but I do not know it. So I am coming to your talk pages.

I got into a friendly fight with other editors arount MEDRS, so I am a little nervous about being bold in this topic, so I personally appreciate your involvement (as well Chemist). I hope to be a good editor over time, so please consider this an investment you are making into me as well as the article. I do not feel any ownership (sorry about the primary and tertiary terminology) I hope I bring some useful perspective, but like the equal voice of everyone who is willing to participate in creating an excellent article. I think this is a fascinating, topical, and useful article. Hundreds of thousands of people have been affected. I think a neutral and well sourced article is helpful to the society, to the debate, to the patients, and to Wikipedia. So I appreciate the help to achieve excellence. And as I said earlier, I would like to gain confidence and do more after this article is complete. I also will accept suggestions on further research. I have put a lot of time into this, and want to get it right.

Thanks!Bob the goodwin (talk) 22:10, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

Category:Empowerment of women
Category:Empowerment of women, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. Pichpich (talk) 14:49, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Category:Empowerment of women

Propose deleting Category:Empowerment of women - (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) Nominator's rationale: The scope of this category is unclear and all articles currently in there are adequately categorized using long-standing categories. Pichpich (talk) 14:49, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Keep - Nice category, for gathering all beneficial and supportive tasks, solely related with the improvement of Women rights. OccultZone (Talk) 14:54, 10 February 2014 (UTC) How is this different from Category:Feminism and Category:Women's rights? - The Bushranger One ping only 00:28, 11 February 2014 (UTC) Changed opinion, Delete. OccultZone (Talk) 07:33, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

delete there are well developed trees in feminism and women's rights that are largely sufficient, a separate category like this one is not needed and duplicates the work of many other categories.--Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 16:25, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Delete in favor of the long-standing (and more neutrally named) categories mentioned by other Obi-Wan. QVVERTYVS (hm?) 10:29, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

KEEP Empowerment of Women should actually be a parent category which could encompass a lot of the smaller categories. Basically there are two major sides women and men. Let's just make it a neutral topic and neutral categories. I propose keep this one. and also create a category Empowerment of Men. Long standing never trumps change, and a better equality and a movement toward total neutrality on our beloved Wikipedia could make Wikipedia more encyclopedic Carriearchdale (talk) 15:19, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

Long standing never trumps change
Let's just make it a neutral topic and neutral categories. I propose keep this one. and also create a category Empowerment of Men. Long standing never trumps change, and a better equality and a movement toward total neutrality on our beloved Wikipedia could make Wikipedia more encyclopedic!

Carriearchdale (talk) 15:19, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks.
I don't know what a citation barnstormer is, but it made me really happy.

I am not sure I am doing a good job, but I want a good encyclopedia. I also want to learn to work within this environment. There is a lot of work that can be done if I figure it all out. I happen to think the Lyme wars stories is one of the all time great stories, I hope you are enjoying working with it. Let me know if I can do anything for you. I live in Seattle, and tend to stay up late, its nice to see someone awake at the same time! I will send you an email, if you want to discuss offline. Bob the goodwin (talk) 08:15, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

That's really funny... I have a home up in Seattle just off the Puget sound. I pretty much go back and forth from Seattle down to the gulf coast down near the Gulf of Mexico. I will keep helping you with it. A dear friend of mine was affected severely this disease. She has been fortunate to get excellent treatment, but she is now suffering through the after treatment after the long antibiotics run. I am convinced though by my knowledge of pharmacokinetic principles that this treatment tract may well be the best treatment ever, We shall see...

ciao!!! Carriearchdale (talk) 09:20, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

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February 2014
Please stop adding unreferenced or poorly referenced biographical content, especially if controversial, to articles or any other Wikipedia page, as you did at Rachel Reilly. Content of this nature could be regarded as defamatory and is in violation of Wikipedia policy. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia.
 * Hi Carriearchdale. I've had to revert your changes to the Rachel Reilly article. There were a couple of concerns, but the main one was that the inclusion of a long list of unsourced traffic misdemeanors runs into problems with the biographies of living people policy. We normally wouldn't include that information in an article unless it was shown to be significant, such as through extensive secondary coverage, and even then only if there was very strong sources to back it up. I'm also concerned about the coverage of Brendon Villegas in the article - the issue is not a major one for Rachel, beyond possibly warranting a brief mention, as it isn't really about her. However, you also can't use material directly taken from another source, as the original article has not been released under a compatible license with Wikipedia, raising copyright concerns.
 * I think you have a point about the photo, though, so I've replaced it with another one that currently appears to be ok. - Bilby (talk) 11:37, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks Billy for u our input. The referenced material regarding Reilly was cited with a true and legal reference. I believe by not mentioning a few negative things gives the ad et ice an undue weight to the positive side. Other contestants of big brother on their article pages do have their criminal records included. Please see Adam Jason ski and several others. I believe that editors want this article to be a puff piece. Yes, I agree let's all discuss on perhaps the article's talk page.

ciao! Carriearchdale (talk) 11:50, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks so much for your

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Keep Empowerment of Women should actually be a parent category which could encompass a lot of the smaller categories. Basically there are two major sides women and men. Let's just make it a neutral topic and neutral categories. I propose keep this one. and also create a category Empowerment of Men. Long standing never trumps change, and a better equality and a movement toward total neutrality on our beloved Wikipedia could make Wikipedia more encyclopedic. Carriearchdale (talk) 15:16, 12 February 2014 (UTC)