User talk:Carriearchdale/Archives/2014/January

A belated welcome and
a sincere apology on behalf of the good people at the Wikipedia

Carrie:

Belatedly, welcome to the Wikipedia!

The users here have a mutually agreed duty – a publicized duty expressed in writing – to give a warm and cordial welcome to you and all other newcomers – and to give you helpful and supportive guidance while you find your way around this sometimes crazy place – and to refrain from "biting" the newbies.

Some of us really do it that way, whereas others of us not only fail to do so but do quite the opposite.

Unfortunately, you've met several of those who do it the wrong, harmful, and counterproductive way.

Sadly, I too received a similar experience when, in 2008, I dared to enter this holy electronic space.

After seeing your mention of your reception here, I read the archived material attached to your (this) talk page.

Predictably, I find the words of the members of your welcoming committee to be utterly offensive, insensitive, unjustifiable, and reprehensible.

Their behavior closely resembles that of schoolyard bullies.

One of them tipped his hand by referring to what he called the "esoteric rules" of the Wikipedia.

It's interesting that they did not acknowledge your professional qualifications, which are undoubtedly superior to theirs.

Further, their words are unmistakably sarcastic, quarrelsome, insulting, condescending, and sanctimonious.

It's downright comical, in a tragic way, that one of them hung the word "vandalism" on your sincere attempts to create a new article.

Unfortunately, you unknowingly busted one of their holy rules -- the three-reversion rule -- one of the favorites of the bullies.

One of their frequent techniques is to precipitate a confrontation, watch for a response, then goad a newbie, then do it some more, then eventually shout "Foul! Gotcha! 3RR! Edit warring!".

As you've learned, I think, one way to deal with that is to refuse to allow them to drag you into repeated reversions within 24 hours; instead question your challengers on their own talk pages and, if appropriate, and after discussion, stretch out your reversions in such a way as to avoid violating the holy 3RR.

You've discovered my website, Bluehounds and Redhounds.

Thanks for your nice comment.

On my home page at that site, in the section entitled "The Reason for This Website", I describe my experiences during my early time at the Wikipedia.

On behalf of the good people here, I sincerely apologize to you for the bad behavior of some of the others.

Thanks very much for the cupcake and your kind words on my talk page.

Again, welcome to this place!

Best wishes,

Doc. DocRushing (talk) 03:46, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Hyphenation of compound modifiers
You removed hyphens from compound modifiers in John Church Company Building without explaining why. The edits run contrary to WP:HYPHEN, sub-subsection 3. I will be glad to correct them, if you wish. Chris the speller  yack  21:07, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I just noticed that you put extra spaces between some of the sentences. That is an unnecessary edit. See MOS:PUNCTSPACE, which says that one or more spaces make no difference on the rendered page, and any number of spaces is allowable. That implies that neither style is correct or incorrect, and that spaces do not need to be "fixed". Changing the spacing is likely to distract and/or annoy other editors. Chris the speller   yack  21:15, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

Chris the speller:

Please feel free to adjust the hyphens and or spaces as you wish on that page as per the MOS. I will leave that page to you and other editors. Have a great day!

Carriearchdale (talk) 22:46, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

hogwash
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Carriearchdale.27s_.22copyedit_work.22 --Niemti (talk) 09:22, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi, Carrie. Please slow down! Although the backlog-reduction drive is a friendly contest, in the long run it damages WP (and the GOCE's reputation) to emphasize quantity over quality. All the best,  Mini  apolis  17:01, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi again. Since my last post I was alerted to your ongoing editing pattern by GOCE coordinator emeritus Stfg and, given your stated occupation, I find it surprising. Please read WP:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/How to to get an idea of our standards, and don't hesitate to refer to WP's Manual of Style.  Mini  apolis  20:40, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi Miniapolis,

Thank you for your kind words. I appreciate your input. I have decided to step back for awhile. Please also thanks Stfg for their reviews, and ask them not to waste anymore of their time for doing that as far as the drive stats or whatever, since I am officially withdrawing as to any part of the contest there at GOCE. Thanks again and I hope you both have a very great day!

Carriearchdale (talk) 21:36, 20 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi Carriearchdale. I've been watching this page just in case. I'm really sorry you've had such an unpleasant experience today. Thank you for taking it so graciously and for thinking of my time -- very much appreciated. Kind regards, --Stfg (talk) 22:05, 20 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi Carrie, welcome to the project and I'm sorry you hit a speed bump so soon after arriving. I think the best way for a new editor to get started is to find an article about a subject that you're interested in and know something about, but where the article itself is not very good (this will be easy as we have plenty of lousy articles on almost every subject).  Then start improving it by adding new information, as opposed to worrying about minor issues of style.  If everything you add is cited to some kind of published work, and the subject itself isn't something controversial (you can spot those by the amount of conflict on the article's talk page), you'll do fine, you'll get to engage directly with interesting subject matter, and you'll get to collaborate with other editors more than you would by doing isolated stuff like fixing typos. I'd suggest staying away from controversial subjects at first.  I'd also advise against trying to create new articles until you have a good understanding of Wikipedia's concept of notability, since most articles by new users get deleted and they often find that an upsetting experience.  And finally (in case you didn't notice) I better tell you that certain people around here go completely berserk over style questions like "copy edit" vs. "copyedit".  I think it's best to stay away from that sort of issue since it's a complete waste of time.  If you edit an article, I recommend following the style choices that you found already existing in the article, even if they're inconsistent with other articles and the MOS.  We have guidelines like WP:ENGVAR and WP:CITEVAR because of the ferocious battles people got into over that stuff, and one can generalize the idea to just say leave existing choices alone (make your own choices once you do start writing new articles).  Remember that Wikipedia is first and foremost about sharing knowledge.  It has many great aspects and many problems.  Problems like somebody writing "copy edit" when the MOS says "copyedit" are not even in the top million in order of importance by any sane measure.  So it's better to focus on issues that are meaningful, like what the articles actually say.  This is of course all just my opinion--as the saying goes, YMMV. 50.0.121.102 (talk) 01:31, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the note 50.0....

You make a lot of good points there. There are obviously a handful of kind and considerate people here at Wikipedia of which you are one. I just somehow keep running into the droves of people here who are harsh, mean and hateful. Maybe you know, is there a list of articles somewhere that are CLAIMED by certain editors? I need that list so I can steer clear of them.

Carriearchdale (talk) 01:30, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

NBSP
Hello Carrie, please don't remove the little "nbsp" bits from articles (as you recently did at Ford Cortina) - they are there so as to maintain a non breaking space between the numeral and the unit, and thus serves a purpose. Thanks and cheers,  Mr.choppers &#124;   ✎  09:21, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for the post. Point taken. Have a great day!!!

Carriearchdale (talk) 14:04, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Philately Wikiproject
Welcome to the Philately WikiProject. Hopefully you have a good time, start many new articles and can contribute lots to the existing ones as we need that. Cheers BTW, this is a very boastful edit. Userpage should be truthful information about you, not fake. ww2censor (talk) 12:22, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the note. Not sure what you are talking about boastful or fake? Please elaborate?

Carriearchdale (talk) 12:42, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

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Thanks for checking and reviewing the page I made for Luis Guillermo Solís! It's appreciated! Mvblair (talk) 23:11, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Mass Transit Super Bowl
Thanks very much for all you work on the article. Little embarrassing to put out something so sloppy, Had been gathering info and working on it a bit, but then it sort of became a "current event", so I just did. (also to get it into DYK). Will continue to improve as time permits.Djflem (talk) 09:26, 28 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Since you've reviewed the piece wonder if you mind having a look at Template:Did you know nominations/Mass Transit Super Bowl. Might be unusual to ask for a DKY review, but would be nice to have this run before Feb 2? Hope you'll consider; many thanks, again. Djflem (talk) 23:42, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Sure, I will be glad to give it a look.

Carriearchdale (talk) 02:07, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for you thanks. I would like to change the name back but not sure how to do name-name over re-direct, do you? 10:41, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Suggestions
Hi Carrie, I need you to help me edit Midnight Rider: The Gregg Allman Story by helping me with the infobox! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kido1234567890 (talk • contribs) 23:22, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

I will take a look at it. Carriearchdale (talk) 02:31, 31 January 2014 (UTC)