User talk:Cartwright-Roblin Municipality

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Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. ''This article is about the former Rural Municipality of Roblin. You don’t need to update it to be about the amalgamated municipality. There is already an article for the amalgamated municipality at Cartwright – Roblin Municipality.'' Hwy43 (talk) 22:23, 2 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Hello Hwy43,
 * I need to move the Rural Municipality of Roblin page to Cartwright-Roblin Municipality as the municipality was renamed during the amalgamation. Further, Roblin MB and several municipalities in that area amalgamated and adopted the Rural Municipality of Roblin name, so anytime someone looks on the internet for Roblin Manitoba municipal information, Wikipedia directs them to Cartwright-Roblin Municipality. I have no concern with the Cartwright MB page, despite Cartwright is a partner in the Cartwright-Roblin Municipality amalgamation, but all affiliation with Rural Municipality of Roblin needs to be removed as that name now belongs to a whole different part of the province which is 5 hours north of Cartwright-Roblin.
 * Thank you for understanding and assisting with this clarification of details.


 * I see too, that you undid the revision. With the name having been reassigned to Roblin MB area partners, this page only creates confusion. The former municipality information needs to be detailed in the new Cartwright-Roblin page so that the current Rural Municipality of Roblin can access that page for their own use, or at least change the story on that page to be accurate and factual. Presently, the Rural Municipality of Roblin page is wrong. Rural Municipality of Roblin still exists, but it is a different location in the province and a different story: they too amalgamated January 1, 2015, but the partners are Roblin MB, Hillsburg RM, Shell River RM. Please help me with the necessary changes to avoid future confusion and mis-directed people as a result of inaccurate information. Thank you.


 * Interesting that the name is now being used elsewhere. Do you have a link to share so that I can look into this further? Preferably the provincial order that renamed the other municipality? There are article name solutions for such unique circumstances like Whitecourt Wolverines (2008–12) for the first iteration of a hockey team and Whitecourt Wolverines for the second/current iteration. Cheers, Hwy43 (talk) 23:02, 2 June 2020 (UTC)


 * You providing a link would help me confirm that the amalgamated Municipality of Hillsburg – Roblin – Shell River changed (and simplified) its name to Rural Municipality of Roblin (or Municipality of Roblin). Hwy43 (talk) 23:09, 2 June 2020 (UTC)


 * I’ve done some sleuthing. Appears that between the date of the amalgamation legislation (April 22, 2014) and the amalgamation effective date (January 1, 2015) its name was changed from Municipality of Hillsburg – Roblin – Shell River to Municipality of Roblin. Once I find the legislation that changed the name I will go through the process of moving the page from the former to the latter and applying a hatnote at Rural Municipality of Roblin to help readers get to the Municipality of Roblin article. Cheers, Hwy43 (talk) 00:12, 3 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Found this, which amended this to this. Changes will now be made this evening. Stay tuned. Hwy43 (talk) 00:43, 3 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Alright. See the addition of a hatnote here. Then see this move here. Then see the addition of a hatnote there too. All now should be in order. Cheers, Hwy43 (talk) 02:56, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

I do hope this helps solve the ongoing problem we suffer in concert with Roblin MB/ Municipality of Roblin, which is that invariably people trying to reach Roblin MB municipal office contact Cartwright MB municipal office. It had gone on for years due to the name of their town being the same as the name of our municipality. We hoped our municipal name change would solve the matter but it has been futile due to outdated internet information that we cannot control. It would be so much better if the Cartwright-Roblin page could take on the information from the "former municipality" page as it would still populate in google and other search engine responses when called for. I'm sure you can imagine it's quite frustrating, and wasteful of staff time dealing with internet mis-direction, although I don't believe you have a true understanding of its impact.

Spaces in municipality’s article name
Hi. I saw your edit summary here. I am surprised your municipality doesn’t know that its own official legal name, as assigned to it by the Government of Manitoba through the Village of Cartwright and Rural Municipality of Roblin Amalgamation Regulation, has spaces on either side of the hyphen (technically an endash I believe). See for yourself in section 2 of the regulation here. Curious as to why the municipality would remove the spaces. Did the municipality get the province to amend its official legal name to remove the spaces yet? If no, perhaps it should inquire. I see you have been invited to the Teahouse. I suggest you reach out to them about your previous concern and this new one. Cheers, Hwy43 (talk) 05:10, 27 June 2020 (UTC)


 * With all due respect, I find your response and lack of willingness to cooperate on behalf of a community you do not live in, nor have any familiarity with, other than what you read, to be offensive and condescending, especially when the intent of the request is to reduce public confusion. I also find it interesting that Killarney and Turtle Mountain were amalgamated by Provincial regulation (160/2006 to be precise) and yet the heading for their Wikipedia page is just as I have requested (no spaces). You will note that the name defined in that regulation also has spaces. I ask you to cooperate and accommodate in this circumstance as well, due to the fact that it really has more impact on locals here than it does on Wikipedia. If it makes you feel better, go ahead and place a statement into the entry language to cover yourself off legally.


 * Hi again, I am trying to help you. Your first concern we talked about is complicated and I went to great lengths to research and fix for you what I could but a complete fix is beyond my expertise. Regarding your second concern I need to understand if your municipality officially changed its legal name or not through the province. Please WP:AGF (assumed good faith) and resist trying to read unintended tone. I am genuinely confused and curious about how the two spaces evaporated. Editors on Wikipedia edit voluntarily and have other much more important responsibilities outside of this hobby. I encourage you to go to the Teahouse for some assistance because that group of editing volunteers focus on helping new editors solve problems, learn the ropes, etc. I don't have the capacity to give you the extent of help you deserve which is why I am trying to point you to a group of more attentive folks that do. In the meantime, I will respond to your Municipality of Killarney-Turtle Mountain observation. But, in doing so, I ask you to familiarize with WP:OTHER (other stuff exists). It too should have the spaces to comply with an established consensus that articles of rural municipalities should be named in accordance with their official legal names. When the 2015 amalgamations were scheduled, I created all articles for the new municipalities with the spaces based on this established consensus, including 17 with en dashes with spaces on either side. I see one of them has since been moved (Rural Municipality of Minto-Odanah). If you were to confirm that your municipality had its official legal name changed to remove the spaces per the provincially legislated process, moving this article to what you desire will be easy. If no, I can consult with others to confirm exactly why Killarney-Turtle Mountain and Minto-Odanah were moved to titles that exclude the spaces. The result on that consultation may very well be doing what you have requested and potentially doing the same for the 15 others. Cheers, Hwy43 (talk) 19:24, 29 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Also, what do you mean by "go ahead and place a statement into the entry language to cover yourself off legally"? Hwy43 (talk) 19:25, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

Just suggesting that it would be reasonable to place a statement somewhere into the entry language to address the removal of spaces in the organization name as "requested by the municipality to coordinate with other media sources, and documents".

June 2020
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conflict of interest
Please read and heed WP:COI and WP:PAID. Thanks, -- Deep fried okra  ( talk ) 20:36, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

I have applied for a username change as you suggested. Also, I am employed by Cartwright-Roblin Municipality and my edits are in attempt to reduce the confusion of entries which are not in keeping with existing information sources. My requests are in the best interests of the municipality.