User talk:Casliber/Archive 54

ARCA
Copied from the page regarding Infoboxes, with new emphasis: "Would those who see a reason to keep 2.1 or can't decide kindly present one example from the last three years in an infobox-yes-or-no discussion (not "religion in infoboxes" which was not the scope of the case, nor other discussions) where they found Andy "disruptive" enough to justify a ban from a discussion?" Start with Bach, end with Peter Maxwell Davies. - I believe the infoboxes wars are a myth, so would be interested where you see the other side. You missed 2014, - I'd follow the reasoning of Opabinia regalis if I was an arb ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:28, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
 * ps: see also User talk:Gamaliel, from happier days, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:03, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
 * I was going to say that if he were not being disruptive then it is not a problem, but I concede then someone can hang it over someone like a sword of Damocles so I'll revisit. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 17:45, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you for following kelapstick. I am still searching for one instance of perceived disruption, just one. Look at Bach and tell me where I am blind, please. The bottom line about Andy's editing, by (sadly missed) Yunshui) on AE: "The edit was unproblematic and actually made Wikipedia better". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:14, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

Anthony Anderson FA nomination
I have nominated the Anthony Anderson (basketball) article to possibly have it be promoted to a featured article. Could you please leave some comments on areas that you would want to fix so that it meets the FA criteria? If so, add your opinion on the article on the nomination page. TempleM (talk) 00:09, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

Mehmet Celal Bey
Hello Casliber,

Are you involved with adding DYK hooks to the prep pages? One of my DYK hooks, Mehmet Celal Bey, has been approved recently but I'd appreciate it if it can go up on the preferred date of April 24. I know it's a little late but I'd really appreciate it if something can be done. Étienne Dolet (talk) 08:58, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Best is to post on the discussion page there, my online time is patchy the next new days, sorry. It should be straightforward however. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 09:01, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Ok, it'd be for prep 1 I suspect. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 09:05, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
 * So, what should I do? Should I still open up a discussion at the discussion page? Or should I just wait? Étienne Dolet (talk) 09:06, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
 * hang on, I will fill some for that date ( prep area 4 I mean..). Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 09:08, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you Casliber. I appreciate it. Étienne Dolet (talk) 09:13, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
 * I think prep 2 will be in April 24. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 09:19, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

Iris timofejewii
Thank you very much for your edits on my article, which then got finally added to the DYK page. It is on todays main page :D I was just wondering were the flow - plant --> leaves --> flowers --> rhizome came from ? It seemed sensible to work up from the ground (like many other authors had done so) ! DavidAnstiss (talk) 17:08, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
 * I have alot of Australian botany books and it is how they write (as a human sees the plant I guess) - height/width/habit, then trunk/bark/leaves then flowering time, then flowers, fruit, seed, seedlings. I've written some plant articles here, see Banksia aculeata for instance. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 18:49, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

"I finished watching TV now"
Begs the question. Are you allowed watch TV for grown ups in your house, or do the kids still rule. We are enjoying very much the fourth season of the Americans atm. Liz is forced to watch fr Ted about once a week, part of the IRE integration process. Well maybe its more of an ecumenical matter. Ceoil (talk) 17:38, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Aah, we've been watching lotsa property shows, so we were all on the couch watching TV when Tony rang....my wife not impressed....Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 22:36, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

Today's featured article/May 2, 2016
Cas and Mdk572, I'm working on this one now. Comments welcome. Corinne did some good work on this too. - Dank (push to talk) 02:34, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

DYK promotion hours overdue
Casliber, it's likely to be hours more by the time you see this, but at the moment the main page replacement is almost four hours overdue. There are three preps ready to go as I write this (Preps 1 through 3), though someone may have promoted one or more of them before you get there...or may not have done any. Thanks for whatever you can do. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:18, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Thankfully someone got there. I have been pretty busy IRL recently Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:06, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

Pdf for Isopogon anemonifolius
Hi, I can send you a pdf of:



if you still need it to fulfill your request at WikiProject Resource Exchange/Resource Request. Please use Special:EmailUser to email me so that I can reply with the pdf as an attachment. Regards, Worldbruce (talk) 03:17, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Long-nosed bandicoot
Hello! Your submission of Long-nosed bandicoot at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thanks. I should probably have notified you of this sooner, so I apologise for that. anemone projectors 14:25, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

GA review for Apollo 1
Hi. You might have gotten busy, but could you take another look at Apollo 1? I went through this and added citations at most all the places you tagged, and also some where you noted more were needed. I think I got most everything cited, except for a few:
 * The tour of pad 34: I don't know if this is being offered anymore; I find a few references to it on Google from places e.g. Travelocity reviews, but nothing detailed that looks like it comes from KSC or Cape Canaveral. I don't know for sure which of these would run the tour, since the pad belongs to the Air Force rather than Kennedy, and I know the Cape Air Force Station is a high-security area nowadays.
 * A few, more obscure civic & other memorials: some, like Grissom and White Halls at Chanute AFB, which seem to have been turned to other purposes, and at least one of them has been demolished; so I just remove it.

Can you take another look and let me know what you think? I really want to get this at least to GA. Thanks. JustinTime55 (talk) 16:34, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Gimme a few hours - thanks for pinging me. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:58, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Long-nosed bandicoot
Gatoclass (talk) 03:53, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Australasian darter
Gatoclass (talk) 03:25, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Antlia
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Antlia you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Saskoiler -- Saskoiler (talk) 21:20, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
 * cool! Will keep any eye out for stuff to do. cheers, Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 23:34, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

Requested Winkelvi links
You had requested links at User Talk:Winkelvi: Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive920, Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive920, User:Floquenbeam/ArbCom NE Ent 00:06, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
 * ok thanks Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:01, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

2016 GA Cup-Round 3
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Talk:Theft of The Weeping Woman from the National Gallery of Victoria/GA1
Cas Liber, you posted your review on March 21, over six weeks ago, and although Shirt58 has hundreds of edits on Wikipedia in the interim, none have been to this article. I think it's time to close this; if Shirt58 is still interested in getting the article to GA status, he or she can eventually do the substantial work needed on the article and then renominate. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:17, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I'll try pinging Shirt58 one last time before failing it. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 19:49, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

You've got mail
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WikiCup 2016 May newsletter


Round 2 is over and 35 competitors have moved on to Round 3.

Round 2 saw three FAs (two by and one by ), four Featured Lists (with three by ), and 53 Good Articles (six by  and five each by, , and ). Eleven Featured Pictures were promoted (six by and five by ). One Featured Portal, Featured Topic and Good Topic were also promoted. The DYK base point total was 1,135. scored 265 base points, while and  each scored 150 base points. Eleven ITN were promoted and 131 Good Article Reviews were conducted with completing a staggering 61 reviews. Two contestants, and, broke the 700 point mark for Round 2.

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Your GA nomination of Antlia
The article Antlia you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Antlia for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Saskoiler -- Saskoiler (talk) 03:21, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

GA Cup-Round 3 Clarification
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DYK for Hygrophorus pudorinus
— Maile (talk) 12:38, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

You've got mail!
Sam Sailor Talk! 11:40, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

Request to Be Unblocked
Hi Casliber, did you and the rest of the Arbcom mailing list receive my email of April 24? I asked to be unblocked. I was a contributor of solid content for five or six years before I was perma-blocked without warning with a button click falsely labeling me a sockpuppet by an administrator that didn't explain anything.

I was proud of my contributions to Wikipedia and would like to do so again. As you look into my case (as I expect you to, given your position as arbitrator) do not accept as fact any accusation against me without allowing me to respond. I have endured many many lies and WP:AN/ANI mob attacks in which I was muted and my defenses erased, resulting in damage to my reputation as an editor. Further, do not accept the assertion of Thryduulf at my talkpage that I am on an "appeal timer," because he has no authority to do any such thing and there is nothing in policy that allows him this, as well his purporting timing is unevidenced and suspect.

Answer my email or unblock my talkpage and we'll be able to communicate about this important matter. Colton Cosmic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.195.207.162 (talk) 11:10, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

Plagiarism detection
Hi! You voted for improving plagiarism detection as an important suggestions in the community wishlist survey last year. I'm pinging people who showed interest in that task to tell them we have some suggestions for how things could look, if you'd like to glance at them and give us some feedback. They're available here: T120435. It's easiest if comments are left in Phabricator, since that's where much of the development is happening, but they can be left on Meta too, of course. /Johan (WMF) (talk) 17:18, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

Herbier de la France: a translation
Here's my try at translating the legend under the figure you linked to on 's page


 * This mushroom is common is our woods all year long. There are two varieties: one (fig. A) whose gills an pileus, at first a light violet, eventually become (B) burgundy (lie de vin). The other (fig. C) has vinaceous gills (couleur vineuse) and grow in intensity with age. I have very often seen the variety with violaceous gills confused with the Agaric aranéeux violet (no idea what species that refers to), a confusion that does not happen if the mushroom is seen in early age, for its pileus is always nude, lacking the araneous collar (annulus? veil?) that distinguishes the Agaric aranéeux violet.

I'm not clear at all what colors the author alludes to with "lie de vin" and "vineuse". My translations may be entirely wrong there. Circéus (talk) 00:57, 14 May 2016 (UTC)


 * My take on them is "wine-coloured" or "vinaceous". The other mushroom is (I suspect) Cortinarius violaceus - will confirm by looking in the history of that mushroom. Cortinars have caps covered in veils/webs, hence the common name webcaps....many thanks btw.Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 03:32, 14 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Aha "aranéeux" = spidery-web....Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 03:44, 14 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Yep, its C. violaceus Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 07:46, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

Request for peer review
Hi Cas; this feels really awkward since we've never communicated before, but I thought I'd give it a go anyway. I've been working on improving F.C. United of Manchester, planning to bring it to FA status in the near future. The article is already a GA, but I've expanded and improved it slightly over the past few weeks. I noticed that you've signed up at Peer review/volunteers to give feedback for football articles, and I'm wondering if you could help a bit with that article? A peer review for the article is currently ongoing, and @Lemonade51 has already provided some excellent suggestions but more help would definitely be welcome. I realise this is totally out of the blue but I still hope you might find some time to help out :-) Thanks, odder (talk) 17:48, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Sounds fun/happy to help. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 19:54, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

Central notice
Tell me, how did you get the central notice up "The Core Contest is running from 15 May to 30 June 2016. Enter at Wikipedia:The Core Contest/Entries."? I tried to get Dragon publicized like that but had no luck.♦ Dr. Blofeld  18:32, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I edited the general page notice. I think it must be an admin only thing....Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:39, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
 * It is possible you could do that for the next major contest I'm hosting? WikiProject England/The West Country Challenge. Sometime in August I think. I'll let you know when. If we'd managed to get up a notice on Dragon I think it would have attracted more people and been an even bigger success!♦ Dr. Blofeld  08:29, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Ooo-aar, I reckon it'd be doable. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 08:56, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

TFA
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:59, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

Today we enjoy Frigatebird on the Main page, followed by a most welcome feast of joy (pictured)! - Re: "in striking distance of FA status": would you cast an eye on Reger's Requiem, second attempt? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:06, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Chalciporus
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:56, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Chalciporus pseudorubinellus
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:57, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

Today's featured article/June 4, 2016
Hi Cas, I'll get to this one soon. - Dank (push to talk) 16:41, 18 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Circinus, in your constellation of TFAs ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:38, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
 * yesterday a mushroom, today another constellation: amazing! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:05, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Lynx (constellation)
The article Lynx (constellation) you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold. The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Lynx (constellation) for things which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Hawkeye7 -- Hawkeye7 (talk) 22:40, 18 May 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Casuarina glauca
— Maile (talk) 12:12, 19 May 2016 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Pigot Diamond
Cas Liber, there is finally a response to your review here. Can you please check to see whether your concerns have been addressed? Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:39, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

Norodom Sihanouk
Hi Cas, I have nominated the above article for FAC, a biographical article about a late Cambodian monarch and Cold War figure. I have received feedback from the FAC that the article's prose has issues. I have done several rounds of proofreading and CE on my part, and right now I think a second pair of eyes to spot any problematic areas, if any. I welcome you to take a look at the article, and feel free to give any comments on the prose, content etc - on any areas that may need fixing from your perspective. (The FAC page is at Featured article candidates/Norodom Sihanouk/archive1). Pleased do not feel obliged if you are unable to do so, though it would be great if you can let me know about your decision on whether you can assist. Thanks in advance!
 * It is an important article. I will try and take a look over the weekend. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 09:49, 20 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much. I appreciate your prompt reply and look forward to hearing any suggestions from your side. Mr Tan (talk) 09:57, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

Cross-wiki watchlists
Hi! You voted for the cross-wiki watchlist as an important suggestions in the community wishlist survey last year. I'm pinging editors who showed interest in that task to tell them we have some suggestions for how things could look, if you'd like to glance at them and give us some feedback. You can find them on the project page on Meta. If you'd like to share any comments, you're very welcome to do so on the talk page. /Johan (WMF) (talk) 01:02, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

Spider
Its been awhile. Would you be able to work with me on Sydney funnel-web spider? LittleJerry (talk) 20:48, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Yeah, let me take a look and think......Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:56, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Yeah, we'll try model it on redback in layout. Let's do it. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 21:34, 25 May 2016 (UTC)

Okay, sometime in June would be better for me. I don't have as much access to sources as you do, but I can still help out. LittleJerry (talk) 22:02, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Fine by me. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 09:36, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
 * yes this will take some tim. I reckon it'll be a few weeks at least of me tinkering with it. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 08:32, 29 May 2016 (UTC)
 * That's okay. I won't be able to do much for another week. LittleJerry (talk) 18:51, 30 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Hope its still on. LittleJerry (talk) 17:39, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Hello? LittleJerry (talk) 01:19, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Autumn/winter here. Got sidetracked as mushrooms about, so been photographing and reading and writing about them.Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:52, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Okay. LittleJerry (talk) 16:17, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

GA review for Apollo 1
Hi. You might have gotten busy again, but can you please take another look at this? I believe I've fixed about everything you flagged, with the help of another user. Thanks. JustinTime55 (talk) 19:59, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Cool - will get to it a bit later today when I have time to focus on it properly. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 21:02, 26 May 2016 (UTC)

DYK prep to queue promotion?
Cas Liber, the queues are empty again, and the next set, Prep 3, has a couple of special occasion hooks for May 28, so it would be nice to have it in Queue 3 before 12:00 UTC rolls around. If you're around, it would be a great help to do the promotion if it hasn't already been done. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:54, 28 May 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Cortinarius cucumeris
The DYK project (nominate) 12:02, 28 May 2016 (UTC)

Norodom Sihanouk
Hi Casliber! I haven't heard from you from sometime, hope everything's great so far. You made a good suggestion on trying to add information on Sihanouk's ruling style, and I have added text into the article describing that where appropriate. Hope you can slip in a little time to take a look at Featured_article_candidates/Norodom_Sihanouk/archive1. Cheers! Mr Tan (talk) 08:31, 29 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Ok soon. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 08:31, 29 May 2016 (UTC)

FWIW
Up to you, since you're the one nice enough to do the work, but I for one liked the old orange DYK announcement boxes more. — Llywelyn II   01:07, 30 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I tend to agree. Maybe open up discussion at WP:DYK Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:33, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

2016 Wikimedia Foundation Executive Director Search Community Survey
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Thank you, The Wikimedia Foundation Executive Director Search Steering Committee via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 21:49, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

2016 GA Cup-Finals
--MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:24, 3 June 2016 (UTC)

Admin The Wordsmith's comments re: "...the ineptness of many current Arbs..." is certainly casting aspersions
Given the seriousness of this Rfc at User talk:The Wordsmith/GMORFC the ongoing threats to sanction participating editors seem to ring hollow in light of supervising admin The Wordsmith's astonishing comments regarding ArbCom members. The comment, which by any definition "casts aspersions," raises a number of questions that call for immediate answers, given the self-created deadline for comments.

The questions, which I hereby put directly to The Wordsmith, are as follows:


 * Exactly which ArbCom members are you referring to, when you describe them as "inept?"


 * In what way are these current community-elected ArbCom members, as you term them, "inept?"


 * Do you have diffs to support this sweeping claim, and can you produce them? If not, why not?


 * Since the thrust of this extraordinary Rfc seems to be to prevent "casting aspersions," in the Talk pages of GMO articles (as well as precedent-establishing proposed "locked in" multiple article wording regarding GMO safety) is this not exactly what you are doing in the past 24 hours towards members of the Arbitration Committee? Does this not disqualify you immediately from further participation?

To all concerned: I will post the above subsection on the Talk pages of current ArbCom members, per The Wordsmith's declaration, despite substantial objections, that they will be locking down the page a few hours from this posting, making further timely discussion on this page impossible. Jus da  fax   11:06, 3 June 2016 (UTC)

DYK prep to queue promotion needed before 12:00 UTC
Cas Liber, the queues are empty again, and Prep 1 is currently filled. The next time you're logged on, if you can see whether a prep to queue promotion is still needed and take care of it if so, that would be great. Thanks as always for you DYK help. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:59, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
 * done. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 06:03, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Cortinarius erythraeus
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:01, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

Buçaco Forest
    "we sailed under this Island, thence passing the most Famous and Wealthy City of Macao [...] This City exceeds all others for great Cannon, which are to be had there at a reasonable rate, and wherewith they drive a considerable Trade, for they are held to be the best in all India, being cast of Chinese and Japan copper, and are sent for far and near."  Johan Nieuhof, An Embassy from the East-India Company of the United Province to the Grand Tartar Cham, Emperour of China, 1669.   "There is in China a vast Quantity of Copper, Iron, Tin, and all other sorts of Mettals [...] And indeed the City of Macao affords us an evident proof of the great plenty of these Mettals. For in that one City there are cast such numbers of great Guns to be admir'd for their goodness, their bigness, and their Workmanship, which not only serve for the use of that City, but to supply several places in the Indies, and even Portugal it self."  Gabriel Magaillans,  A New History of China, Containing a Description of the Most Considerable Particulars of that Vast Empire, 1688. Yep - Buçaco Forest is something very special. I've seen pyramids in Egypt, Mexico and Guatemala; I've checked out Greek / Roman stuff in Europe; I've marveled at the Chinese gear over in Tapei's National Palace Museum. But IMO only Buçaco and some of those underground stations on the Moscow metro can be described as truly magical. It's a "must" for someone like you!

What do you think of my sexy new infobox on the right? I coded it with HTML / CSS and set up the graphics in Photoshop. The Chinese characters read: Macau. My logic goes like this:


 * 1. Wikipedia is basically garbage
 * 2. Much of the content is considered trashy and/or biased
 * 3. People do seem to take science/medical articles seriously, though (this includes your stuff)
 * 4. Articles about history are often very poor; celebrity twaddle and bios are uniformly awful.

I figure that history stuff can be spiced up with a type of infobox that uses contemporary quotes to summarize key content. If the quotes are strong enough, casual readers shouldn't need to waste their time reading the whole article.

Singora (talk) 01:05, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Hmm, I think decorative infoboxes and quoteboxes can be helpful to engage the reader. I seem to recall there are some examples already that are a bit more than Spartan. Precedence helps here. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:19, 6 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Roman Empire and Holy Roman Empire have infoboxes with some stuff in it (a teeny bit decorative but prosaic..)...Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:20, 6 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks -- just checked those two boxes. I guess they're okay, though perhaps a tad cluttered. Are you suggesting that without a "precedent" I wouldn't be able to use anything original? One slight problem is that there are no decent images for the article I have in mind, so an interesting or unusual infobox strikes me as a valid alternative. Singora (talk) 04:34, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes agree - I have done the same with quotations in boxes to liven up a topic that I have no images for. I think precedents are helpful if trying to win over skeptical folks. Will try to find some more examples. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 04:57, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Actually I think I'll just scrap this idea - it's not gonna work. Would your friend be willing to make any of his Buassco photos available for use on Wikipedia? I'd love to use a FREE photo of the sequoias or that giant eucalyptus. There are loads of other beautiful trees, too, that would look good in that article I started. Singora (talk) 07:04, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Hadn't thought of that - will ask him. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 08:37, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Cortinarius sanguineus
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 23:44, 9 June 2016 (UTC)

Recent deletion
Hello Casliber. I am curious about your decision to delete Rodbehandling. I thought it could serve as a redirect. Can you tell me why I was wrong in that regard? Thank you.--John Cline (talk) 08:42, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
 * I deleted it because it was tagged and it appeared to be an implausible redirect in English. If you've seen it used extensively in English I can undelete. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 08:52, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you, I understand your rationale. I am not asking you to undelete the redirect, I merely wanted to better understand the line between plausible and implausible. I better understand the difference now; and thank you again.--John Cline (talk) 08:59, 10 June 2016 (UTC)


 * He's pulling your tail mate! -that's Danish for 'root canal treatment'! Muffled  Pocketed  09:03, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
 * I certainly hope that assumption does not carry the day. Cheers.--John Cline (talk) 09:16, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Why would you want a Danish word to act as a redirect on the English Wikipedia then? Muffled Pocketed  09:37, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
 * The article was created in Danish by another user. It duplicated an existing topic which we already had an article for. CSD-A10 was deemed appropriate however it stipulates: "When the new title is a reasonable term for the subject, converting the new article to a redirect may be preferable to deletion". Considering that we have a redirect categorization template for other languages, R from alternative language which reads:


 * And since we have Category:Redirects from Danish-language terms showing that this form of redirect is not uncommon, I contested the deletion believing the redirect was both proper, and plausible. I was apparently wrong, and asked my question here so I could "better understand the line between plausible and implausible" which I stated. I wasn't playing games or pulling tails as it must have appeared though I could be called clueless for being sincere; even a troll I suppose. Or you could AGF that I meant well and we move on from there. I'm for the latter. Cheers.--John Cline (talk) 11:11, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
 * I just tried looking on google with English only and nothing came up.Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 09:24, 10 June 2016 (UTC)

FA queries
Hi, here as some questions regarding FAs that I have as mentioned on Dank's talk page.
 * 1) How are criteria 1b comprehensive, 1c well researched and 1d neutral checked, as they require background knowledge (could require expert opinion or be an obscure topic) and access to most of the sources (could be offline, not free etc) ?
 * 2) What does FA review the process involve (what is a source and image review etc)? What are the requirements for it to pass? Ugog Nizdast (talk) 12:39, 10 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Hmm, do you have an article in mind? Might be easier to work with something concrete I can walk you through. Sourcing often requires a library or helpful person with university access. Having both experts and laypeople review the article is good - the latter group help with accessibility Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 14:54, 10 June 2016 (UTC)


 * I don't, I just want to know in general. I've not witnessed much FA reviews except maybe Hyderabad and Blackwater fire of 1937. I've so far got a faint picture of it and have created FA and GA answered queries. Ugog Nizdast (talk) 15:50, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
 * OK, I guess the big-picture view is that FA doesn't mean "perfect" but the best we can possibly get it, which means that anything possibly fixable or improvable has been done. Where possible we try to get people familiar or experienced with the topic to comment but that is not always possible. A person unfamiliar is good too as it can highlight words that might be too specialised and can be substituted for plainer English ones. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 22:28, 10 June 2016 (UTC)

Amendment request on arbitration decision against Rodhullandemu
You are involved in a recently-filed request for clarification or amendment from the Arbitration Committee. Please review the request at Arbitration/Requests/Clarification and Amendment and, if you wish to do so, enter your statement and any other material you wish to submit to the Arbitration Committee. Additionally, the Arbitration guide may be of use.

Thanks, --George Ho (talk) 05:50, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

1893
Please protect 1893 due to excessive edit warring. 2602:306:3357:BA0:5816:34A5:F33:DC18 (talk) 23:59, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Cortinarius sublargus
Allen3 talk 12:40, 16 June 2016 (UTC)

Covent Garden
The Covent Garden article has been scheduled to appear on the main page at the end of this month on the 30th. Shortly after it was scheduled, a FAR was opened by User:Scott: Featured article review/Covent Garden/archive1. I am looking at addressing his concerns, though they are vague, and he appears unwilling to expand on his concerns. As you were involved in the FAC in 2011 (Featured article candidates/Covent Garden/archive1) would you mind looking at the review, and providing some guidance as to how to proceed.  SilkTork  ✔Tea time  19:18, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
 * ok. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:06, 18 June 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Cortinarius kioloensis
&mdash; Coffee //  have a cup  //  beans  // 12:01, 19 June 2016 (UTC)

DYK queue question
Hi, Cas. I notice only one DYK queue is populated and that five of six preps are populated. Is there any danger of the queues running dry? Ping me back. Cheers! 08:01, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
 * done now. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:06, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

DYK for S Doradus
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:03, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Bondarzewia berkeleyi
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:03, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

DYK nomination of The Lure (2015 film)
Hello! Your submission of The Lure (2015 film) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Amgisseman(BYU) (talk) 21:04, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Cortinarius rubellus
— Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:05, 25 June 2016 (UTC) 00:21, 25 June 2016 (UTC)

Battle of Keresztes
Hello! i want to help for vandalism.One user(he is newbie) deleted strange of holy league.normally it was writing 140.000-200.000 after they changed it.but references are same.after other user added ppblocker.Please help :) My english bad sorry^-^ NoScopeRage (talk) 15:57, 25 June 2016 (UTC)
 * can you link to user? Also see WP:AIV Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 03:21, 26 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Please note that this editor appears to be an IP that has been edit warring an incorrect figure for this battle. Said editor has also canvassed two other editors in Turkish, I am assuming to ensure some level of secrecy.
 * Per A Global Chronology of Conflict, page 547, "Central Europe: Hungary: Battle of Kerestes.Vizier Ibrahim Pasha, commanding an Ottoman army of some 80,000 men, attack Archduke Maximilian and an Austrian army of 40,000 men."
 * Here, the IP has misrepresented a source to inflate numbers. Said source makes no mention of army numbers. --Kansas Bear (talk) 15:59, 26 June 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Motsoalle
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 17:05, 26 June 2016 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Cortinarius violaceus
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Cortinarius violaceus you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of FunkMonk -- FunkMonk (talk) 19:40, 26 June 2016 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Quintinia verdonii
Hello! Your submission of Quintinia verdonii at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yellow Dingo (talk) 12:16, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Macrocybe
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 16:35, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

DYK for The Lure (2015 film)
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 07:23, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

2016 GA Cup-Wrap Up
--MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 02:26, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

Talk:Theft of The Weeping Woman from the National Gallery of Victoria/GA1
Cas Liber, this review has now been open 101 days, and Shirt58 is clearly not able to address the issues raised. It's time and past to close the nomination as unsuccessful. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:38, 2 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Will do this PM. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 05:16, 2 July 2016 (UTC)
 * The second opinion you requested has been posted on the review page. BlueMoonset (talk) 06:35, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Cortinarius violaceus
The article Cortinarius violaceus you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Cortinarius violaceus for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of FunkMonk -- FunkMonk (talk) 10:01, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/S-type star almost there
There's just one unreferenced section in the article which I wasn't comfortable with, and some non-dealbreaker concerns. Thanks! FourViolas (talk) 02:58, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

TBAN thread
I know you said you're evaluating the diffs; as you do so, as there are several walls of text, I just want to point out that an accusation I made three errors in DYK submissions has been advanced with José Rosas Aispuro being the third. I was recently blocked for this, however, the block was reverted (see conversation here and here  and the block log here ) after it was shown I'd never edited that article in the history of its existence. My participation was in the form of being one of three persons who reviewed the DYK (and one of three who did a poor job reviewing it), but it's been presented as though I was the actual article author. Sorry for going to you directly with this, however, there seems to be a certain level of argumentum ad nauseam going on here and, since it's already resulted in one problem I wanted to proactively notify you about it. This isn't me lobbying for a !vote in any direction on the TBAN, I don't care which way you !vote as I'm probably done with DYK either way as it's clearly too hot right now, but I wanted to let people who have the ability to act on this edit know purely so I don't have to re-run the blocking/unblocking trauma. The accidental block I got resulted in the permanent scarring of my previously pristine block log which I'd tried hard to maintain. Thanks. LavaBaron (talk) 11:16, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Ok, where does the factoid about the Hope Stairs being 4th longest in the US come from?Trying to wade though the Staircase debate. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Cas Liber - sorry for delayed reply. It was double-sourced from "Seattle Stairway Walks" published by Mountaineers Press and "Washington Trails", the magazine of Washington Trails Association. At the time I had no reason to suspect both of these outlets were conspiring to perpetrate a hoax and took their information at face value. In any case, the point is probably moot. I'm satisfied with the outcome of the ANI. My only note here was to preemptively avert another bad block that would have to be retracted due to questionable framing of the discussion, rather than intercede in the ANI per se. LavaBaron (talk) 13:13, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
 * LavaBaron, where did I say that you edited that article ever? You did a poor review there, and afterwards claimed that this wasn't a problem as the main part of the hook was correct (missing an error in a DYK review is not good but not dramatic, but claiming that having the error on the Main Page was no problem really disqualified you from DYK participation). For reference, this is the DYK: Template:Did you know nominations/José Rosas Aispuro, and the claim that the error wasn't a problem can be found here. But I would prefer to continue the discussion at WP:AN. Fram (talk) 12:15, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

You've got mail!
Vanamonde93 (talk) 14:01, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

Today's featured article/July 24, 2016
Pinging Sasata. You two nommed this one at FAC ... how does the TFA text look? - Dank (push to talk) 00:16, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
 * looks alright to me. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 02:02, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

LavaBaron's editing restrictions
I am writing this message to you because you put yourself down as a regular admin at DYK.

Per this AN thread, LavaBaron is given editing restrictions on DYK. Any hook nominated or reviewed by LavaBaron must be reviewed by a second editor before it may be promoted to the main page. The restrictions are reproduced below as follows:

--Deryck C. 13:45, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
 * 1)    A DYK article nomination or hook submitted by LavaBaron must be reviewed and accepted by 2 other editors before it may be promoted.
 * 2)    Any DYK nomination reviewed by LavaBaron must also be reviewed and accepted by 1 other editor before it may be promoted.
 * 3)    Any additional reviews by other editors, which are mandated by this restriction, shall count towards the QPQ of that editor.
 * 4)    (To balance the maths) For each article submitted by LavaBaron to DYK, 2 QPQ reviews by LavaBaron are required, at least 1 of which shall be a nomination that had not yet been accepted by another editor.
 * 5)    These restrictions shall initially last for a period of 3 months. At the end of the period, this restriction shall be reviewed.


 * ok, noted, thanks Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 14:38, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

DYK nomination of S-type star
Hello! Your submission of S-type star at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 15:18, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

Source check for Agharta (album)
Hi. Would you be willing to do a source review at my nomination of this article? Dan56 (talk) 06:55, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Sure. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:30, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for beginning the review, but apparently the nomination was closed/promoted shortly after you started. Dan56 (talk) 17:14, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Oh well, it was late in the evening here and I had to get to sleep. Not sure whether the nominators knew I had not finished. Maybe had a bit of a look himself. Dunno. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 21:45, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Tks for the ping, Cas. I have to admit that I took the formatting and copyvio checks as what was "to come" so thought you'd finished.  I'd welcome you doing anything more you planned and resolving any concerns on the article talk page; I made a few textual tweaks to the article before promoting so the talk page is on my watchlist. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 23:52, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Am busy for a few hours. Will check later. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:50, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

Hi
So, I'm currently looking at two of the metals of antiquity: I'm bringing lead to FA with R8R Gtrs, and having some thoughts about how to get iron to GA myself (I've always dreamed of featuring that, but that is certainly a longer way away!) Do you have any comments on either (preferably lead, if you don't have time for both)? ^_^ Double sharp (talk) 07:45, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Oh, and if it's possible for you, a GA review of at least one of the four current WP:ELEM GANs (bohrium, lanthanum, indium, unbinilium) would be greatly appreciated, too! Double sharp (talk) 08:55, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Ok, I'll review lanthanum and have a think about the other things. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 09:06, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the lanthanum review! Double sharp (talk) 07:36, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Quintinia verdonii
Gatoclass (talk) 00:52, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

DYK for S-type star
The DYK project (nominate) 12:35, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

DYK queues are empty
Cas Liber, the queues are empty and the next promotion is scheduled for 00:19, less than an hour from now. If you happen to start editing in the next hour or so, and the queues are still empty, could you please promote one or more of the preps to the queue position? Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:26, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
 * done. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:56, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks again for doing this. In a way, it's good that the queues were empty, because there were special occasion hooks that hadn't been promoted but belonged in Queue 3 and Queue 5, and it gave me a chance to get those saved-up hooks into the prep sets before asking you to promote them. I should probably post a reminder on the DYK talk page that prep set builders should check the special occasion section before starting work filling a prep set. BlueMoonset (talk) 07:36, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
 * yes I think that'd be prudent. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 09:20, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
 * The queues are empty again. If you log on in the next hour or so, please update if you can. Actually, if you log on a bit later than that, we may still need you. (I did make that post about prep set builders/reviewers. No comments, but I hope a few people noticed it and will keep it in mind.) BlueMoonset (talk) 00:53, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
 * done. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 02:49, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Many thanks, Cas Liber. I'm glad we're set for a little while. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:59, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

Nuckelavee
Well, I hadnt noticed this Nuckelavee article had gone main page around March, and visitors came then and saw some of the similar issues I brought up, and started threads on it, and I was belatedly reading it months later. I'd quite forgotten where I written them up though and they were in the old FAR that got archived, and I started reading, and was unpleasantly reminded of the marginalizing I was receiving, and maybe got riled up.

Anyway, reading over the FAR perhaps more dispassionately, I still can't shake the sense you're automatically siding with Eric and the other editor, and I assume this is acting out of friendship. But my opinion is, this causes you to make weird statements that are not in line with policy, or logic, or general facts regarding folklore or linguistics. Which is of course, your prerogative.

But given your are making what I consider are substantive mistatements relating to folklore or linguistics, on record, I feel I need to address them. However, I shall have stop adding more for now, otherwise, it's just going to be a barrage because you've stepped on several mines. As a general point, you should never really assert what you think might be obviously etymologically connected, because of such things as "faux amis" ("false cognates"). I have posted in the article's talk page Jakobsen's Norn Language dictionary entry on mukkelevi (well, I also rewrote the etymology section using this info, but it of course got reverted), so you might consult the etymology of mukkelevi to see what I mean by stepping on a mine.--Kiyoweap (talk) 08:12, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I'll look a bit later. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 02:50, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

<b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 20:18, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

Source review
Hi Cas Liber, Thanks ever so much for starting the source review of Featured article candidates/HMS Emerald (1795)/archive1 but I'm a little confused over how it has been left. Are you satisfied with what you have seen or is there something you're not happy with? Best regards --Ykraps (talk) 07:15, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I am saying that someone else checked the sourcing and I am happy that someone did as it saved me doing it :) Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:27, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Ah, okay, but I just want to be sure that you realise that the source review given on Alansplodge's page was put there by me, as an example of how a source review might be carried out. I'm not sure it's appropriate for me to carry out my own review but I suppose if you were to check and then ratify it, it could be used. Are you saying that is what you have done?--Ykraps (talk) 05:18, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I was tired and thought it was him. My bad. I will look later. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:16, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
 * An easy mistake to make. Thanks for finishing it off.--Ykraps (talk) 19:10, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

DYK late; queues empty; preps full
Cas Liber, in case you log on soon, the queues are empty and the latest move to the main page is over 100 minutes late, while all six preps are full. Can you please move at least one prep into a waiting queue? Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:41, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
 * been very busy. done now. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 03:23, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:27, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

User DinoLover1234
Hello Casliber, you blocked the above editor a few days ago for making unsupported claims in many articles regarding non-native species introduced from other countries. As a member of WikiProject Colombia I came across the article Invasive species in Colombia that the editor started, but presumably with an indefinite block it is now unlikely that this article will ever be expanded? I ask because if it isn't going to be improved I am thinking of putting it up for AfD. The three animals mentioned are indeed non-native and have been introduced at some point in the past to the country, so that isn't false information, but I can't find any sources (in English or in Spanish) which would help reference and expand the article, such as date of introduction to the country, where they are to be found, etc. The title of the article itself is very POV in my view – just because a species is introduced doesn't make it "invasive", and the one unsourced sentence is also very POV... "serious threat", "ongoing cost". Thanks. Richard3120 (talk) 20:59, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Some of the material elsewhere was false. But I did find some factual edits the editor made early on that were true. We now need to systematically review all the editors' edits. The topic does strike me as a notable one, so I don't think AfD is appropriate. My question is, how do you know they have been intorduced if you can find no sources - there must be some...? Look, I am really busy today but am keen to look through their edits systematically. If you find more true edits I'd consider an unblock. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:49, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I can find sources that say they have been introduced in Colombia, but not much more than that, that's the problem... there's one mention of the mongoose (mangosta javanes) on page 25 of a publication on invasive species in Colombia written by the Humboldt Institute, which is a credible source, but unfortunately it talks about the cost to agriculture in Puerto Rico and Hawaii, not in Colombia. The cherry barb fish I can find on many aquarium shop websites which sell the fish and describe it as being introduced to Mexico and Colombia from Sri Lanka (for example here, on the fourth line), but again, I find nothing that says where you can find it in the wild or why it is a danger to the ecosystem. The hippos are an unusual one – they were part of Pablo Escobar's private zoo... when he was killed most of the animals were either put down or sold to other zoos around the world, but the hippos escaped and roam wild in the rivers around his former estate. Here's a BBC article on them. But again the problem is not proving that they exist, but that they are "invasive" and have caused a problem to the natural ecosystem.
 * Perhaps in light of the fact that I can find sources for the introduction of these species, but not for any of the claims of invasiveness and potential damage to the environment, it would be better to make the article a sourced list instead and call it List of non-native species found in Colombia or something like that, and remove any POV claims about whether their introduction was good or bad? I'll happily look at some of the other claims the editor has made to see whether they were true or not. Richard3120 (talk) 02:44, 27 July 2016 (UTC)

GA review of Heart
Cas, had not noticed you intended to GA review Heart until I left the nom a note here. I'll defer to you if you'd rather, but if you'd rather I continue to lead that charge, I'd still think an important article could use more than one set of eyes. Cheers, Jclemens (talk) 05:44, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Happy for you to lead the charge. Am pretty busy. Might chip in for a new comments later. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:13, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
 * The review at Talk:Heart/GA1 is at an appropriate point for other input, especially on some of the history and cultural sections. Cheers, Jclemens (talk) 20:44, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

DYK Sets
Could you promote one or more DYK sets from the prep areas to the queues? I would do it myself but 4 of the 5 completed sets contain hooks that I promoted to the prep areas. Thanks. --Allen3 talk 11:55, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
 * On it. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:56, 27 July 2016 (UTC)

Today's featured article/August 12, 2016
We'll always have parrots. - Dank (push to talk) 16:41, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you for another good one, with a nice image! - I have an image - but darker - on top of my talk, smaller at life is too short, it was featured yesterday on the German Main page for an article I wrote here and someone else translated ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:59, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

I'm not back
But I seem to be editing at the moment. Anything that needs doing? Sabine's Sunbird  talk  03:17, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi, good to see you sort-of-back anyway <b style="font-family:chiller;color:red">Jimfbleak</b> - talk to me?  05:45, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Same! Much better news than a death, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:52, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi, I have been playing alot of Pokemon Go the past three weeks with my kids. Not much bird editing though a few starts here and there. has done the only bird articles that have gone through FAC recently but he does extinct ones...I find working on extinct species a real downer. Frigatebird is now FA and I guess what might pique your interest most is a seabird of some sort. Any page you have any desire to improve I am happy to work on. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 02:35, 31 July 2016 (UTC)

We could all take a look at Blue-footed booby...in fact, why not. I'll try and shoulder this to GA, if you folks could add let's try and get some of these over the line. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 02:42, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Sure, I can give some help. Sabine's Sunbird  talk  00:00, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

Today's featured article/August 16, 2016
How does the TFA text look? - Dank (push to talk) 20:57, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Alright at first glance. Bit busy ATM Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 02:29, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Sure, I'll reword in the future, I didn't mean I needed you to look at this quickly. - Dank (push to talk) 15:29, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Banksia scabrella, two a week ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:40, 16 August 2016 (UTC)

Cortinarius violaceus
Hi Cas; I think the article's looking great, and I'm happy for you to nominate (and please do add me as a conominator) when ready. I am moving in to my new flat tomorrow but won't have internet for the best part of two weeks, sadly; I should be able to drop in while in the office, though. Sorry about that; I hope to be editing a bit more regularly than I have been once the Internet is up-and-running in my flat, so if you're in no rush, I can say with some certainty that I will be present for the FAC then. Josh Milburn (talk) 21:58, 31 July 2016 (UTC)

Lynx (constellation)
So I saw your note on the Astronomy page. It might take a day or two or three, but I am reviewing the article now. Then I will move everything over to the discussion as well as my final thoughts on FA status. You can see my progress here, if you want.- Pax  Verbum  04:15, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Great/thanks! I will hurry up and address the last two points of the previous reviewer...Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 05:58, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

Email
Best regards, Mathsci (talk) 18:07, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

West Country contest
Hi, this starts on Aug 8. I was wondering if there was some way you could put up a central notice like you did for the core contest? Mention chance to win up to £250 in Amazon vouchers or something. I had thought Rodw had seen to this but can't see anything coming up!♦ Dr. Blofeld  20:57, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Yeah...ok. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 21:18, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

Did you do it afterwards? It starts tomorrow!♦ Dr. Blofeld  07:35, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Been really busy, sorry. I forgot how I edited the dynamic page notice too. Again, I must apologise. Been fluey and had alot to do. listed it at Template:Centralized discussion Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 14:39, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
 * It's not a big deal, but Template:Centralized discussion is generally for consensus-seeking discussions only. I would recommend announcing the contest at MediaWiki:Watchlist-details or through meta:CentralNotice/Request instead. Hope you feel better soon, Casliber. Mz7 (talk) 21:49, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Aha. Thanks. Will do in an hour or so. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 21:51, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Email
Hi, don't worry about it. Was emailing you as a member of the functionaries team about someone refusing to admit to a COI. They seem to have seen sense now. Will email someone if they carry on. Just to check, though - this the right thing to do, right? WP:OUTING isn't very clear about what exactly to do or who to email first if you see such a problem. Blythwood (talk) 22:03, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

sorry to bother you again with element GANs
Would you mind if I asked you if you could do a few more (or if not, do you know someone who might be willing)? WP:ELEM has seven GANs now (Fe, Ga, In, Ce, Sg, Bh, element 120) and some of them (e.g. In) have been nominated for over a month without getting reviews. Double sharp (talk) 04:42, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
 * P.S. If it has to be just one, I think iron needs a very thorough review the most for being so important. Double sharp (talk) 05:04, 5 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Ok thanks for alerting me. Been pretty busy. Will take a look. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:20, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Good Vibrations
Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:52, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

Chhinnamasta: Peer review/Chhinnamasta/archive1
Hi Casliber.. I hope you are doing well ... It is been a long time since you helped Ahalya's journey to a FA. The article Chinnamasta was recently expanded for a potential FAC. Like Ahalya, Chinnamasta will benefit from reviwers, who are unfamiliar with Hinduism so that we can know if a non-Hindu understands the article. Chinnamasta is a self-decapitated Hindu goddess, who holds her severed head in her hand and drinks blood from her wound.-- Redtigerxyz Talk 17:23, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Bit busy over next two days. If you don't see me there by Wednesday, remind me again. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:45, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks Cas Liber. -- Redtigerxyz Talk 14:06, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Hey Casliber.. it would be great if you can take a look. -- Redtigerxyz Talk 16:37, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

The West Country Challenge
This is just a reminder that WikiProject England/The West Country Challenge kicks off today, with the first subject being Bristol. Please remember to post entries under your name at WikiProject England/The West Country Challenge/Bristol. You are receiving this message because you are listed as a participant in the challenge.

Happy editing! --MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:46, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

The first leg is Bristol. Names are to be added at the bottom of the Bristol page and articles listed. Please also make sure that you add entries you improve/start to the main list on the main page. There will be £10 to win each day for the most points accumulated and then the winner of the county crowned after three days. The overall winner will be decided from the points accumulated from each county round. If you're not interested in winning anything and want to contribute anything you want from the West Country this is fine too though. Best of luck!♦ Dr. Blofeld  10:08, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Vincent van Gogh
Hi Cas, Vincent van Gogh is at FAC and I'd like your advice on a few points regarding his illness. Sorry about the long post. Victoria (tk) 17:37, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
 * The article says in this section, 3rd para, 1st sentence that Van Gogh suffered an "acute psychotic episode". The sources I have available don't use the word "psychosis" and, though I've hedged heavily, I'm wondering if we should pull the term. The sources tell us he was suffering hallucinations and delirium, and had suffered quite a lot of blood loss after cutting off his ear.
 * Also, can you take a look at footnote #184 in this section. The bottom paragraph in that section is essentially unchanged since early 2006, the source originally only cited the 150 psychiatrists, not the many possible diagnoses. One reason I'm a little concerned about the source is its emphasis on temporal lobe epilepsy. According to the sources (the biographies) the first person to diagnose Van Gogh with "a kind of epilepsy" was a 23 year old doctor, still in training, who apparently was familiar with Bénédict Morel's Degeneration theory, and used the term to refer to mental illness, (see my rough notes here in my sandbox).
 * My concerns are: 1, should we be trying to make a forensic diagnosis (I went through this on the Ernest Hemingway page where, after an RfC, we decided best not to, but these things keep creeping in); 2, if we mention epilepsy should we be explaining the 19th century definition of "mental epilepsy" per the sources; and 3., am I overreacting at that the possibility that the statement he was mad (which occurs twice in the lead) could be conflated with epilepsy = crazy??
 * Just to overwhelm you completely, there's more on the talk, where I've pinged for your advice.
 * And finally ... I have found what I believe to be a better source (but again way out of my subject area!) which I'll be emailing with the hope you can advise whether we should swap or not.


 * No don't apologise, it's a fascinating topic. My understanding was that it was bipolar disorder. Look, I have some pressing chores right now but will try to look soon. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:23, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
 * It is fascinating! No rush. The source I asked you to look at above (#184), which is primarily about temporal lobe epilepsy, has shifted. Here's the link to the source, (author is Blumer), . Victoria (tk) 21:56, 11 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks for saying you would try to look, and for your edits there. I've only been working on this for a few months on and off but others have put years into it. Anything you can do would be appreciated; even a review if you got a chance. One specific question to add onto Victoria's above; what's your take on thujone and absinthe? I've seen conflicting reports about it. Best, --John (talk) 23:43, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
 * yes I've pondered about them myself over the years but know little - will look as curiosity piqued. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 21:44, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Cas, I am TRILLED you are taking a look here. John mentioned recentism, and its a real problem. Your jaundice eye will help. Ceoil (talk) 00:26, 14 August 2016 (UTC)

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A heads-up, not a request
The Crusades article is at PR at Peer review/Crusades/archive2. If you're interested, please do have at it. But if it doesn't seem interesting, then just let it pass by. :-) Cheers! Lingzhi &diams; (talk) 04:46, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

Please enforce the word limits
Wikipedia talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Michael Hardy/Evidence --Guy Macon (talk) 02:51, 13 August 2016 (UTC)

You've got mail!
Vanamonde (talk) 12:57, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Greetings, Cas. I really don't mean to be a bother, but I wanted to make sure you had seen this. Regards, Vanamonde (talk) 09:40, 18 August 2016 (UTC)
 * It didn't come through. Don't know why...Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:23, 18 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Strange: it's showing as "sent" in my gmail, and it was a reply to our previous thread...bug somewhere, I suppose. I've sent it again using the Wikipedia Email this user function. Let me know if you don't see it. Vanamonde (talk) 11:59, 18 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Cas, just wanted to make sure you received my reply, since we had trouble with this the last time. If I have to resend, I'd rather do it sooner than later. Vanamonde (talk) 09:45, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Yep. Just need to check a couple of things. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:50, 21 August 2016 (UTC)

Deepin
This article, which you speedied some time ago, is currently listed at Deletion review/Log/2016 August 17. I normally wouldn't bother you about it since there's been an intervening AFD, but you're mentioned at the DRV by name. —Cryptic 10:51, 17 August 2016 (UTC)
 * ok Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:59, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

Arbcom case you might be interested in
I just filed an arbitration request against, citing an example in which you were involved in. You might be interested in the case. Link is here:. Thanks, Banedon (talk) 05:16, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia:The World Wildlife Destubathon
I don't know if you, or page stalkers would be interested in this, but considering the number of stubs we have I think it's probably time we held a nature contest. Simple ruling. Whoever destubs the most nature articles in a month wins!♦ Dr. Blofeld  12:58, 18 August 2016 (UTC)
 * I spend most of my time destubbing wildlife articles anyway! Cwmhiraeth (talk) 13:03, 18 August 2016 (UTC)
 * I asked a week back if somebody could generate a stub count by topic. I'd imagine wildlife is among the least developed out of the stubs we have! It would definitely be worthwhile and require less time to run if it was just an article count. The idea would be a daily prize for whoever destubs the most articles. Casliber you'd probably be the person to run it, but I could certainly help you set it up. We need something to blast away as many stubs as possible I think! I would suggest applying for a grant from Wikimedia for $1000 odd and splitting it into daily prizes.♦  Dr. Blofeld  13:35, 18 August 2016 (UTC)
 * So that's what you were getting at! You really have to spell things out for me (sometimes twice).  The answer is probably just too obvious however - I thought everybody knew about this.  From messing around with the data at User:Smallbones/1000 random results, (not even bothering to count) my impressions are what I'd call our species articles are the worst all around articles.  Say there are 75,000 of them (~1.5%).  Sure, cat and dog and rose and 1,000 others are pretty well done, but that leaves about 74,000 others at about the same level or worse than Pseudamnicola brachia.  This is what I call a sub-stub, see  since p(stub) > .70


 * The only real competing category is Eastern Hemisphere geography articles, which has a very interesting difference from Western Hemisphere geography articles. You know, villages in Poland and Serbia and now Iran, Turkey, and India. In the US (GEO, W) Dr.B? (and others?) started essentially every city, town, borough, county, township and census designated place as stubs and over the years most of them have blossomed.  In the eastern hemisphere most of them just sit there. The graph gives an idea for quality of the combined geo categories (in red), but it is the non-English speaking (+India) articles that drag it down. Interpret the 1.8 mORES level as 80% stubs, 20% sub-stubs. There are at least 500,000 (10%+ of all articles) that are non-English speaking municipalities that tend to be sub-stubs. Salehabad, Ilam is a fairly high quality example.  This one doesn't have much in its home language Wiki, but I think the en-stubs on munis in France, Germany, Spain, and Italy would definitely benefit from translations from the home language pedia.  Smallbones( smalltalk ) 14:54, 18 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Maybe the best thing is just to run the Stub Contest again - surely any stub expanded and reffed is a Good Thing....? As soon as topic areas with large numbers of stubs were mentioned I began to think of geography articles....Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 15:06, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

Calgary Bronks
Why was this deleted. Something should exist under this title. See the incoming links. WikiOriginal-9 (talk) 19:10, 20 August 2016 (UTC)


 * there you go. Expand away. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 03:23, 21 August 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Musgraveia sulciventris
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Sydney spider
Hi. Hope you haven't forgotten about our collaboration. Let me know when you're ready. LittleJerry (talk) 20:38, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Did do some stuff- began looking at anatomy stuff and it was doing my head in. Will take another look soon. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 22:46, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

Today's featured article/September 11, 2016
Cas, here's another one of yours at TFA, I'm working on the TFA text now. - Dank (push to talk) 23:34, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

FAC voluntary mentoring scheme
During a recent lengthy discussion on the WP:FAC talkpage, several ideas were put forward as to how this procedure could be improved, particularly in making it more user-friendly towards first-time nominees. The promotion rate for first-timers at FAC is depressingly low – around 16 percent – which is a cause for concern. To help remedy this, Mike Christie and I, with the co-operation of the FAC coordinators, have devised a voluntary mentoring scheme, in which newcomers will guided by more experienced editors through the stages of preparation and submission of their articles. The general format of the scheme is explained in more detail on Mentoring for FAC, which also includes a list of editors who have indicated that they are prepared to act as mentors.

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 * sure. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 02:44, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Many thanks for signing up. The response from would-be mentors has been most encouraging. Schemes like this are often slow to take off, and it may be a while before we know if it's  working.  But with this level of support, including that of many of our most experienced FA editors, I think it has  every chance. Brianboulton (talk) 16:58, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

The 10,000 Challenge
Hi there. I've started a new initiative, the The 10,000 Challenge. It's a long term goal to bring about 10,000 article improvements to the UK and Ireland. Through two contests involving just six or seven weeks of editing so far we've produced over 1500 improvements. Long term if we have more people chipping it and adding articles they've edited independently as well from all areas of the UK then reaching that target is all possible. I think it would be an amazing achievement to see 10,000 article improvements by editors chipping in. If you support this and think you might want to contribute towards this long term please sign up in the Contributors section. No obligations, just post work on anything you feel like whenever you want, though try to avoid basic stubs if possible as we're trying to reduce the overall stub count and improve general comprehension and quality. Thanks.♦ Dr. Blofeld  12:41, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Sounds good! Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:19, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

Another expert editor
Thought you may be interested to take a look at Didymascella thujina. I've made a start on the wikification process. Josh Milburn (talk) 02:34, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Cool. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 02:37, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

Bobby Lockwood
Thanks for your help! By the way, I declined a pending revision, but I think I've made a mistake. The reference at the bottom is incorrectly formatted; I thought I'd rolled back all of that user's consecutive edits to that page. If you could help me fix it, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks once again, Zero <sup style="color:#0000FF;">talk  17:57, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Easy to just click on the revision and re-save. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:27, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

Editor messing up flora distribution categories
Hi, I'm in danger of getting into an editor war with who in spite of requests on their talk page persists in changing the category hierarchy for the flora distribution categories agreed and explained at WikiProject Plants/World Geographical Scheme for Recording Plant Distributions. I'd be grateful for your assistance in getting Wwikix to stop until there has been discussion and consensus. Peter coxhead (talk) 10:02, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

I'm not persisting, I performed only a few I thought necessary edits. Wwikix (talk) 10:05, 3 September 2016 (UTC)


 * Ok, problem resolved. Peter coxhead (talk) 07:35, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

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