User talk:Cassianto/Archives/2019/November

New Page Review newsletter November 2019
Hello ,

This newsletter comes a little earlier than usual because the backlog is rising again and the holidays are coming very soon. There are now holders of the New Page Reviewer flag! Most of you requested the user right to be able to do something about the huge backlog but it's still roughly less than 10% doing 90% of the work. Now it's time for action. Exactly one year ago there were 'only' 3,650 unreviewed articles, now we will soon be approaching 7,000 despite the growing number of requests for the NPR user right. If each reviewer soon does only 2 reviews a day over five days, the backlog will be down to zero and the daily input can then be processed by every reviewer doing only 1 review every 2 days - that's only a few minutes work on the bus on the way to the office or to class! Let's get this over and done with in time to relax for the holidays. Want to join? Consider adding the NPP Pledge userbox. Our next newsletter will announce the winners of some really cool awards. Admin has been officially invested as NPP/NPR coordinator by a unanimous consensus of the community. This is a complex role and he will need all the help he can get from other experienced reviewers. Paid editing is still causing headaches for even our most experienced reviewers: This official Wikipedia article will be an eye-opener to anyone who joined Wikipedia or obtained the NPR right since 2015. See The Hallmarks to know exactly what to look for and take time to examine all the sources. Would you like feedback on your reviews? Are you an experienced reviewer who can give feedback to other reviewers? If so there are two new feedback pilot programs. New Reviewer mentorship will match newer reviewers with an experienced reviewer with a new reviewer. The other program will be an occasional peer review cohort for moderate or experienced reviewers to give feedback to each other. The first cohort will launch November 13. The annual ArbCom election will be coming up soon. All eligible users will be invited to vote. While not directly concerned with NPR, Arbcom cases often lead back to notability and deletion issues and/or actions by holders of advanced user rights. There is to be no wish list for WMF encyclopedias this year. We thank Community Tech for their hard work addressing our long list of requirements which somewhat overwhelmed them last year, and we look forward to a successful completion. To opt-out of future mailings, you can remove yourself here MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:33, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Getting the queue to 0
 * Coordinator
 * This month's refresher course
 * Tools
 * It is now possible to select new pages by date range. This was requested by reviewers who want to patrol from the middle of the list.
 * It is now also possible for accredited reviewers to put any article back into the New Pages Feed for re-review. The link is under 'Tools' in the side bar.
 * Reviewer Feedback
 * Second set of eyes
 * Not only are New Page Reviewers the guardians of quality of new articles, they are also in a position to ensure that pages are being correctly tagged for deletion and maintenance and that new authors are not being bitten. This is an important feature of your work, especially while some routine tagging for deletion can still be carried out by non NPR holders and inexperienced users. Read about it at the Monitoring the system section in the tutorial. If you come across such editors doing good work, don't hesitate to encourage them to apply for NPR.
 * Do be sure to have our talk page  on your watchlist. There are often items that require reviewers' special attention, such as to watch out for pages by known socks or disruptive editors, technical issues and new developments, and of course to provide advice for other reviewers.
 * Arbitration Committee
 * Community Wish list

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[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2019/Candidates/Worm_That_Turned/Questions&curid=62247236&diff=924608972&oldid=924602282 FFS... is it an obsession or monomania?] - SchroCat (talk) 22:01, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
 * You can't help these snowflakes, can you.  Cassianto Talk  22:25, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Unnecessary comments towards me
Your aspersions and personal attacks towards me on the Alec Guinness talk page are unnecessary and should stop. Civility is a fundamental aspect of editing Wikipedia. Thank you. – Wallyfromdilbert (talk) 19:07, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
 * What's unnecessary in pointing out displeasure at having Guinness's war service deleted?  It's very much factual.   Cassianto Talk  19:29, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
 * If you will stick to factual comments like your above one, then there is no longer an issue. I look forward to our future work together. Take care. – Wallyfromdilbert (talk) 19:38, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
 * You're too kind, but would you mind if I ran a mile?  Cassianto Talk  19:47, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

30em, etc.
Hi, Cassianto. This parameter is no longer needed. Now the reflist template sets a default that will work well for everyone's (different) monitor preferences, and it is no longer helpful to set width parameters manually. All the best! -- Ssilvers (talk) 20:07, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
 * MoS is a guide, not biblical text. To coin a phrase, if it's not broken, don't fix it.  Cassianto Talk  12:01, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
 * The thing is Cass it is broken. There are some devices that using the forced columns templates renders the refs unreadable. I know you disagree so apologies for this intrusion. Feel free to remove this. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 18:02, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Don't be silly, glad to see you here. I'm a technophobe, so this is all foreign to me.   Cassianto Talk  18:24, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the reply. Speaking of things being foreign I saw this once years ago and it was a treat. Enjoy your week. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 18:28, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

Church of St Michael, Aylsham
A shocking stub, created about 20 minutes ago, gives you all that St Nick has on Repton's memorial. Which isn't much! Hope you're well, although you seem a tad grumpy just en ce moment! We should have a glass of wine soonish. KJP1 (talk) 18:43, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
 * , and thanks for the Pevsner titbit. I'm a bit disappointed with the revelation, if I'm honest...I really must learn that if something isn't listed, then they'll always be a reason as to why it's not, rather than my false interpretation that HE simply don't know about it. I'll now think twice about the application - if it's not good enough for Sir Nick, then it certainly won't satisfy our friends at HE.  Tad grumpy is an understatement, just of late, as we seem to be losing a lot of great editors at the hands of utter lunatics and nobody seems to care.  But just as long as we're all being civil to one another, that's the main thing.  A glass sounds great; I was hoping before Christmas, but it's looking like the New Year now.  We'll sort something out.  Thanks again, I really appreciate it.   Cassianto Talk  19:35, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
 * I dropped in a bit on St Michael's; ideally a local historian will have written something like "North Norfolk Through Time" and got it published by Amberley, which we can use to get enough detail for a DYK (if you're into that sort of thing). As for grumpiness, man oh man, after this, one might well have expected me to say "you know what, fuck the lot of you, I'm off" and it's only because my personal life seems to be improving and there enough people who want me to stay (and not just the usual "content creator" suspects) that I have, and I'm glad Cass is still about, writing stuff. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  12:54, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks . I'm also glad you stuck it out and I'm really pleased to hear that your personal circumstances are improving.  I'm a bit ambivalent to anything to do with the MP - I've always considered it to be an invitation for others to come and vandalise things. But KJP1 may be tempted - it's his stub after all.  I trust you'll also be up for a bottle or two when we come to organise it?   Cassianto Talk  13:58, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
 * "ideally a local historian will have written something like "North Norfolk Through Time" and got it published by Amberley,"
 * Wouldn't that be a good excuse for a good ol' wikilynching under SPS / COI? I know nothing of Norfolk, but I'm looking at just such a case over in Wales  8-(  Andy Dingley (talk) 14:18, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Between Pevsner and Historic England, there's actually quite a lot of material to enable expansion. I just need to work up the enthusiasm! The Repton memorial is a bit disappointing but, to be honest, from the image we have it doesn't look that notable in its own right, although important as a tribute to Repton. KJP1 (talk) 07:57, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
 * From my numerous encounters with Historic England, I have come to learn that what they are particularly keen on is group value - sure, there is the church, but aside from the notable burial, I don't see anything else that links Repton to the building. Now, if he was languishing in a grave on a landscape that was designed by him, by a building that he helped design especially for the landscape, then we might've been cooking.   Cassianto Talk  08:36, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

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