User talk:Cassiopeia/Archive 78

Use of the word Pickaninny / Piccaninny in Rolf Harris's "Carra Barra Wirra Canna"
You removed my edit from the Pickaninny page for failing to cite a source for a lyric from a song. The lyrics to the song are widely available from any of dozens of lyrics sites, or from listening to the song, which is possible on Youtube and other sources. The lyric is easily verifiable... as even a google search for the lyrics brings up the text from Lyricfind.com

Lyrics There's a lake in south Australia, little lake with lovely name And the story woven round it, from the piccaninnies came Every night the native mothers croon this lovely lullaby, Croon across the moonlit waters, to the star up in the sky Carra Barra Wirra Canna, little star upon the lake Guide me through the hours of darkness, keep me safely till I wake Piccaninnies' heads are nodding, drowsy crooning fills the air. Little eyes at last are closing, And the boat of dreams is there. Guide my boat across the waters, Cross the waters still and deep, Light me with your little candle, safely to the land of sleep Carra Barra Wirra Canna, little star upon the lake Guide me through the hours of darkness, keep me safely till I wake Source: LyricFind Songwriters: Marva Cogan Carra Barra Wirra Canna lyrics © Sony/ATV Music Publishing LLC

But here's a few more links. https://genius.com/Rolf-harris-carra-barra-wirra-canna-lyrics https://www.lyrics.com/lyric/4743801/Carra+Barra+Wirra+Canna https://mojim.com/usy134473x1x4.htm

However, my biggest problem with your rollback of my edit is that of the 36 entries listed under "Usage in Popular Culture" exactly 6 of them cite sources and you don't seem to have a problem with any of the 30 that don't besides mine. The only use in music that cites a source is the one from 1914, despite the fact that there are three previous entries from even further back that don't. The song itself is the citation. It exists, it is easily referenced, and Rolf Harris is notable enough... considerably more notable than Rhodesian folk artist John Edmund.

This isn't an opinion I'm listing, where some scholarly opinion is needed. I'm citing actual factual data that is easily corroborated. Rolling back the edit when it was done in the same style as other edits that you didn't rollback seems arbitrary, and if your objection is to the lack of citation on that one entry, you could have done even the slightest research to find a citation and linked it yourself. 12.52.143.131 (talk) 10:31, 28 March 2022 (UTC)


 * . Thank you for the info above. Pls note that information added or changed needs to be supported by independent, relaible source such as from the newspapers or books. The sources you provide are considered not reliable. The editor who added/changed the info needs to provide the source for verifcation - see WP:PROVEIT and WP:BURDEN. Those unsourced info as mentioned by have been removed since. Cassiopeia  talk  07:16, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
 * No offense intended, but if something is using a direct quote from the primary source, it should count as a valid source. Direct Quotes are more reliable than even independent sources. A newspaper article, by its very nature, is going to have the bias of whoever wrote the article. Ditto any scholarly work. Additionally, if we are accepting quotes from newspapers or books, which are published references, then a published book as a primary source, or published song lyrics should be acceptable as well. This isn't me (or any of the others commenting on why these works used the term, or judging them for using the term). We were quoting that they did, in fact, use the term. Facts that are easily verifiable by reading or listening to the work in question.
 * Furthermore, what source would be acceptable for song lyrics besides places that collect and public song lyrics? 12.52.143.131 (talk) 06:50, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Additionally, the burden of proof entry states "All content must be verifiable. The burden to demonstrate verifiability lies with the editor who adds or restores material, and it is satisfied by providing an inline citation to a reliable source that directly supports the contribution.
 * Attribute all quotations and any material whose verifiability is challenged or likely to be challenged."
 * It must be verifiable. It doesn't need to be verified unless it is likely to be challenged. You have challenged it simply because citations weren't given, which isn't the proper methodology. Challenges should only be leveled when you actually doubt the veracity of the entry. Since these are all easily verifiable entries, your request for citation isn't valid. 12.52.143.131 (talk) 06:53, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm not going to source all the entries, obviously, but https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyfbD9vuJkA alone is the song, being sung. The word is clearly audible with no mondegreen easily confusing the lyric. 12.52.143.131 (talk) 06:59, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Well, info added and changed should provide source for verification and the revert meant the info added was challenged. Direct quote can be added into articles but the source needs to be independent, reliable source and the content would state it is a direct quote either in quote form or states it is quoted from "who/by" in the body text. The issue here is the the lyrics sites are considered not reliable as per Wikipedia guidlines so are utube and the social media. Cassiopeia  talk  07:48, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Youtube videos as documentation might be unreliable... which is highly debatable these days as a great deal of journalism happens in video essay form and Youtube videos are just as likely to be biased as newspaper articles. But a) a youtube video of a song presented as primary evidence of the song's lyrics should be reasonable and b) you challenged the information for the soul reason that a citation wasn't given. You had no other reason for challenging it. That's not what the challenge system is for. The challenge system is for questioning subjective judgements or for reportage of historical events. If I state "Stephen King, when asked, why he named a character Pickanny Jim, replied..." I would need a source of the quote. If I state "Stephen King, in the book IT, has a character named Pickanny Jim" the text of the book itself stands as evidence of the character's existence. I don't need to prove it with citations any more than I need to prove with secondary citations that the show Alex Rider has a character named Alex Rider.
 * That said, the first lyric site I cited wasn't just any random Lyric Site. it's the primary one Google uses and is an authoritative reference. It is also a pay to access site. For most copyrighted material, no direct online source can be quoted because the full text of most non-public domain books aren't found online. For most songs, there is no official database of their lyrics and journalistic pieces are seldom in the habit of publishing the complete lyrics of a song. Relatively few journalists even do song lyric analysis, and those that do usually feature popular modern songs, not songs that are sixty years old.
 * You are literally using the rules as written to block the dissemination of data simply because your obsession with citations is overriding your interest in providing people with accurate information. If you can suggest a methodology for citing song lyrics, I'll listen, but at the moment, I cannot think of a single reliable source for song lyrics, full stop.
 * If I knew how to escalate my criticisms, I would. Since I don't, I'll just leave you with my commentary. I feel you are abusing the system for no good reason. I feel that the system exists for a specific reason and that your complaints aren't it. As an editor, your interests should be more in finding a way to make factual and relevant data accessible to the users of the Wiki, not in a doctrinaire and dogmatic adherence to rules that state "It's not my responsibility." Clearly, you feel strongly about Pickanny's usage for some unknowable reason, but honestly, I don't. I found the article from the song, found it interesting that the song wasn't listed, and added it. The song is of notable significance in that Rolf Harris is of notable significance. The song uses the word in question. Your denial of the usage being listed simply because the person who put the listing in place didn't have the wherewithal to locate an online newspaper article which quotes the lyrics does nothing to advance human knowledge, nor to make Wikipedia a helpful resource.
 * Absolutely anyone who doubts that the line is as I reported it can verify it simply by spending thirty seconds going to https://www.amazon.com/Carra-Barra-Wirra-Canna/dp/B071LN9FSB and listening to the sample of the song, where the lyric is mentioned. Is Amazon a valid source? I don't know. Is Spotify? These aren't social media. They're vendors where you can hear the song in part or pay to hear it in full.
 * Regardless. I have run out of patience with you. Have it your way. 12.52.143.131 (talk) 09:02, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
 * . Amazon, Spotify are not reliable source so are lyric sites. This is Wikipedia and Wikipedia is an online encylopedia and not a directory or helpful resource site. Wikipedia is not search engine like Google and verification of independent, reliable is the core policy of Wikipedia. Cassiopeia  talk  09:15, 3 April 2022 (UTC)

Renzo Gracie
I'm involved in an edit war with someone adding Nswix (talk) 16:05, 3 April 2022 (UTC)


 * whoops,

as I was saying, I'm walking away from an edit-war with a partially-blocked IP user I can't seem to stop publishing in Renzo's controversy section, which was deemed unreliable in his talk page. Maybe you'd want to have a look? The information seems fairly relevant, but it's not written impartially and seems like an attack. Nswix (talk) 16:08, 3 April 2022 (UTC)


 * , Just saw on the Grecia talk page, a discussion is raised but the issue has yet to be settled and the discussion yet to be closed. Pls do not edit the page anymore. I will look into it/as intermediary. Cassiopeia  talk  01:03, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #514
Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week. 


 * Discussions
 * New requests for permissions/Bot: APSbot 4: Task/s: Regularly create organizations from the Research Organization Registry (ROR - https://ror.org/) that are missing in Wikidata.


 * Events
 * Upcoming:
 * Next Linked Data for Libraries LD4 Wikidata Affinity Group call: Adam Schiff (University of Washington), Tyler Rogers (San Diego State University), Julia Gilmore (University of Toronto) on documenting buildings on academic campuses. Agenda with call link, April 5.
 * Wikimedia Research Office Hours April 5, 2022
 * Wikidata items about theatre and dance productions, April 6 (in French). The same workshop will be offered in English on May 4.
 * Talk to the Search Platform / Query Service Team—April 6th, 2022. Date: Wednesday, April 6th, 2022 Time: 15:00-16:00 GMT / 08:00-09:00 PDT / 11:00-12:00 EDT / 16:00-17:00 WAT / 17:00-18:00 CEST Etherpad
 * Art+Feminism Community Hours. Theme: Add your Event Data to Wikidata. April 9 at 2pm UTC!
 * Ongoing: Weekly Lexemes Challenge #36, Family
 * Past: Wikibase live session (March 2022) log


 * Press, articles, blog posts, videos
 * Blogs
 * Property exploration: How do I learn more about properties on Wikidata?
 * UCSC Ph.D. students dive deep into engineering open-domain dialogue AI with the support of industry partners. "...aims to develop a better system for entity linking, the connection of entities like “Lebron James” or “the Earth” to their various meanings in an existing database of knowledge – in this case, Wikidata..."
 * Highlighting linked data projects. "...Cornell University Library, Stanford Libraries, and the School of Library and Information Science at the University of Iowa are engaging in the grant-funded Linked Data for Production project. Broadly, the project uses linked data to show patrons information from outside sources (such as Wikidata) and build longer, more nuanced links between resources".
 * Videos
 * The Share-VDE project and its relationship with Wikidata (in Italian) - YouTube
 * Create a Wikidata page from scratch (in French) - YouTube
 * Clinical Trials, Wikidata and Systems Biology (in Portuguese) - YouTube
 * New WikidataCon 2021 videos uploaded on YouTube
 * Your favorite interface gadgets on Wikidata
 * Wikidata Query Service scaling challenges
 * Decolonizing Wikidata: Q&A session
 * Wikidata et l’écosystème de données ouvertes liées pour les arts de la scène (in French)
 * Respectfully representing Indigenous knowledge in Wikidata
 * Other
 * FAIR cookbook's recipe "How to Register a Dataset with Wikidata"
 * OpenRefine will soon hold its two-yearly survey again. Who wants to help translate the survey to their language? It will take around 45 minutes. There are already translations underway in Spanish and Dutch. Contact User:SFauconnier if you want to help!


 * Tool of the week
 * Kyrksok.se is an app about Swedish churches based on Wikidata.
 * QAnswer is a question answering system based on Wikidata and other projects. Who was the first to create liquid helium? Try it!


 * Other Noteworthy Stuff
 * Wikidata Query Service scaling update, March 2022 is now available.
 * WDQS backend alternatives paper with shortlist of options have been published.


 * Did you know?


 * Newest properties:
 * General datatypes: cantilever sign, supports qualifier, APE code
 * External identifiers: Australian Reptile Online Database ID, RSPA modern authors ID, RSPA ancient authors ID, 1905.com film ID, Leafsnap ID, ImagesDéfense ID, TASS Encyclopedia person ID, TASS Encyclopedia country ID, TASS Encyclopedia tag ID, WIPO Pearl term ID, Arizona State Legislators: Then & Now ID, db.narb.by ID, Kayak hotel ID, Melon music video ID, Evil Angel movie ID, ACE Repertory publisher ID, World of Waterfalls ID, IxTheo authority ID, BillionGraves grave ID, eSbírky institution ID, Enciclopedia del Novecento ID, Zotero ID, My World@Mail.Ru ID, KSH code (historical), traveloka activities ID, Virginia Tech Dendrology Factsheets ID, SPLC group ID, GuideStar India Organisations-ID, Encyclopedia of China ID (Third Edition), tiket to-do ID


 * New property proposals to review:
 * General datatypes: oeconym, ISCED Attainment, Per capita income
 * External identifiers: Invasive.org species ID, ihg Hotel ID, Monoskop article ID, Le Monde journalist ID, Libération journalist ID, Le Parisien journalist ID, Les Échos journalist ID, L'Humanité journalist ID, L'Opinion journalist ID, Le Figaro journalist ID, Présent author ID, Aldiwan poet ID, Aldiwan poem ID, International Jewish Cemetery Project ID, AccessScience ID, IPU Chamber ID, COL taxon ID, deckenmalerei.eu ID, C-SPAN Person Numeric ID, SRSLY person ID, 100 Years of Alaska's Legislature Bio ID, Indiana State Historical Marker Program numeric ID, Beatport track ID, EIA plant ID, EIA utility ID, Speleologi del passato ID, HuijiWiki article ID, Encyclopedia of Cacti species ID


 * Query examples:
 * Long swedish / german nouns in Wikidata (source)
 * Texts which have Wikisource links in English and French (source)


 * Development
 * Lexicographical data: Continued work on the new Special:NewLexeme page and focused on displaying sensible error messages if an error occurs during Lexeme creation. We're also working on adding a dropdown for the language variant.
 * REST API: Continued work on conditional requests and authorization
 * Made use of the new fields added in the wbsearchentities API and added language information to the markup of entity searches that you see when editing a statement or searching with the little searchbox at the top of the page on Wikidata. Now these search results should make a bit more sense to people who use screen readers.

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.


 * Monthly Tasks
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 * Contribute to a Showcase item.
 * Help translate or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language!
 * Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
 * Help write the next summary!

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UFC 27
UFC 27's page was protected, so I nominated it in :Requests_for_page_protection/Decrease, and they deleted it. Weird. Nswix (talk) 13:17, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
 * , Pls provide hist diff of your request at RPP for my action. Cassiopeia  talk  23:44, 4 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Nswix (talk) 00:09, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
 * , Was the page a "redirect" to other page in the first place?  Cassiopeia  talk  00:47, 5 April 2022 (UTC)


 * No. It was exactly like any other normal UFC event page. Didn't have any weird edits in it either, but it did have a five year old page protection in it, which is why I threw it on RPP. Nswix (talk) 00:50, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
 * , Ok, I have sent an message to the admin who G4 the article and see what we could do. Thank for informing. I have yet to see the issue on Gracie page as I was working non stop for the last 10 days and trying to catch up in Wikipedia the few days. I saw you started editing the page again. If the issue has yet to be solved, I suggest you do not edit the page for you might be blocked for editing warring. Give me a day or two and I will look at it. Btw, thank you so much for helping up on mma project and your contribution is appreciated. Stay safe and best. Cassiopeia</b>  talk  00:59, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
 * , Just saw on the Grecia talk page, a discussion is raised but the issue has yet to be settled and the discussion yet to be closed. Pls do not edit the page anymore. I will look into it/as intermediary.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FF8000"> Cassiopeia</b>  talk  01:02, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

I'm working around the issue, just updated his record 'per Sherdog'. Thanks for everything Nswix (talk) 01:02, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

Tech News: 2022-14
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Question from Abdullahel Mahmud Alvi on Oriental magpie-robin (15:21, 5 April 2022)
Hey.I want to add photo. How Can I do to add photo?.I am so worried about it.please help me. --Abdullahel Mahmud Alvi (talk) 15:21, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Good day. Pls read Image use policy and Uploading images. Pls especially take notes on WP:IUP section (copyright). Once you have read the two links above, then go to [Wikimedia Commons to upload the photos as per instructions. Once the photos are upload, click on "use this file" with the W image next to it on the file at Wikimedia Commons and copy the "file" image then paste it to the article. Stay safe and best.[[User:Cassiopeia|<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FF8000"> Cassiopeia</b>]]  talk  09:32, 8 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks.I hope in any need you will help me. Abdullahel Mahmud Alvi (talk) 12:01, 8 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Pop back here if you have any other questions. I am here to help. Btw, pls make sure the photo is comply with the copyright requirements for it is the most important since it entails a legal implications. Stay safe and best.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FF8000"> Cassiopeia</b>  talk  23:32, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Izu Ugonoh
Did you intend to withdraw your nomination here? If so, I finished closing the discussion for you. If not, please feel free to revert me. –– FormalDude  talk  07:50, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi, Thank you for checking with me. Yes, I did and kindly close the AfD. Stay safe and best.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FF8000"> Cassiopeia</b>  talk  08:28, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.Bennyaha (talk) 00:30, 9 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Pls understand Wikipedia guidelines and procedures. Pls note that nomination of AfD is not an offend and discussion should be in the AfD page. Secondly, you disagree with not reliable source removal such as facebook, utube and courier mail then pls go to the article talk page and raise a discussion which ANI is not the right channel.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FF8000"> Cassiopeia</b>  talk  00:40, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

Counter Vandalism Unit Academy
Hello, this is Narutmaru! I am interested in joining the CVU and wanted to know more, hence decided to join the CVUA. The CVUA page states that you are taking in students. I am from India and my timezone is GMT+5:30/IST, and I sought you out ask you seem to be the closest to my timezone.

Are you willing to take me in as your student?

Patiently waiting, Narutmaru (talk) 12:21, 10 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Goo day and thank you for interested in joining the CVUA program. The minimum total main space edit to join the program is 200 and at the present you have 22. Pop back here if you are still interested after you have reach required edit. At the mean time, pls complete WP:TWA to familiar yourself some of the Wikipedia basic guidelines.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FF8000"> Cassiopeia</b>  talk  07:32, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #515
<div style="margin-top:10px; padding-left:5px; font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif;">Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week. <div style="-moz-column-count:2; -webkit-column-count:2; column-count:2; -webkit-column-width: 400px; -moz-column-width: 400px; column-width: 400px;">


 * Discussions
 * Open request for adminship: Stang (RfP scheduled to end after 14 April 2022 12:18 UTC)
 * New requests for permissions/Bot:
 * Botcrux 10. Task/s: Change publication date (P577) of scientific articles from "1 January YYYY" to just "YYYY".
 * Pi bot 25. Task/s: Wikidata:Properties for deletion maintenance


 * Events
 * Upcoming:
 * Online Wikidata meetup in Swedish #104, April 17th at 12.00 UTC
 * The next Wikidata+Wikibase office hours will take place on Wednesday, April 20th 2022 at 17:00 UTC (18:00 Berlin time) in the Wikidata Telegram group. The Wikidata and Wikibase office hours are online events where the development team presents what they have been working on over the past quarter, and the community is welcome to ask questions and discuss important issues related to the development of Wikidata and Wikibase.
 * April 26, Ghent, Belgium: public OpenRefine data cleaning workshop and meet&greet with the OpenRefine team, including preview of Structured Data on Commons functionalities. Physical event, free, sign up via this link.
 * Wiki Workshop 2022 - Registration open! The event is virtually held on April 25, 12:00-18:30 UTC
 * April 22nd - 24th, from Wiki Mentor Africa, A three days workshop on Linking biodiversity data through wikidata using Webaps and jupyter notebooks to attend, | register here
 * May 5th: Wikidata Bug Triage Hour, open discussion. Come with your favorite Phabricator task and we will improve its description together.
 * DigAMus goes Wikidata workshop: make digital projects in museums visible and findable. April 29, 3-5 p.m. TIB Open Science Lab. Register here.
 * Ongoing: Weekly Lexemes Challenge #37, Numbers


 * Press, articles, blog posts, videos
 * Blogs
 * Smithsonian Libraries and Archives & Wikidata: Chinese Ancestor Portrait Project
 * Browsing FactGrid with the FactGrid Viewer
 * Papers
 * A formalization of one of the main claims of “Cortex reorganization of Xenopus laevis eggs in strong static magnetic fields” by Mietchen et al. 2005 (uses Wikidata identifiers for statements)
 * A formalization of one of the main claims of “Creative Commons licenses and the non-commercial condition: Implications for the re-use of biodiversity information” by Hagedorn et al. 2011 (uses Wikidata identifiers for statements)
 * Videos
 * Wikidata Query Service Tutorial in Tunisian by Houcemeddine Turki (WikiConference RU 2021 - Part 1, Part 2)
 * Live Coding - PyORCIDAtor, integrating ORCID with Wikidata - YouTube
 * How to add location coordinates to Wikidata Items (in Dagbani) - YouTube
 * Bundestag + Wikidata = Open Parliament TV (in German) - YouTube


 * Tool of the week
 * Glitter another R package to write SPARQL queries and query Wikidata and other SPARQL endpoints. This package provides a domain specific language to write queries directly from R.
 * Conzept is a topic-exploration tool based on Wikidata and other information sources.


 * Other Noteworthy Stuff
 * The Wikidata MOOC (online course) has been developed by Wikimedia France, involving several French-speaking Wikidata editors. The first version of the course will start on April 26 (in French only - registration here)
 * OpenRefine is running a short survey to learn about user needs and expectations for the new Structured Data on Commons extension for OpenRefine, which is in the process of being developed. If you upload files to Wikimedia Commons and/or edit structured data there, please help by filling in the survey!
 * Wikibase cloud update (April): the closed beta of Wikibase.cloud is planned to start in mid-April. If you want to apply for closed beta access, please register with this form.


 * Did you know?


 * Newest properties:
 * General datatypes: APE code, maintains linking to, academic calendar type, taxonomic treatment, co-applicant, applicant, P10604, notable role
 * External identifiers: traveloka activities ID, Virginia Tech Dendrology Factsheets ID, SPLC group ID, GuideStar India Organisations ID, Encyclopedia of China ID (Third Edition), tiket to-do ID, Speleologi del passato ID, L'Humanité journalist ID, L'Opinion journalist ID, Le Monde journalist ID, Le Figaro journalist ID, Le Parisien journalist ID, Les Échos journalist ID, Libération journalist ID, Intesa Sanpaolo Historical Archive Map ID, Monoskop article ID, IDU foreign theatre ID, IDU theatre building ID, IDU theatrical ensemble ID, Cameroun COG, Author ID from the Modern Discussion website, SRSLY person ID, FAOTERM ID, Catalogue of Life ID, Trovo ID, IFPI GTIN, MangaDex title ID, All.Rugby club ID, traveloka restaurant ID, maPZS trails/locations ID, Kinowiki ID, marriott hotel ID, Chuvash Encyclopedia person ID, Chuvash Encyclopedia place ID, Chuvash Encyclopedia topic ID, HarperCollins product ID, Atlas of Cultural Heritage Calabria cultural place ID, XJustiz registration court ID, Atlante Beni Culturali Calabria item ID


 * New property proposals to review:
 * General datatypes: является автором художественной выставки, shoe color, government debt-to-GDP ratio, National Historical Museums of Sweden object ID, class of property value, has group, name of victim, Tracks featured in work, smb.museum digital ID
 * External identifiers: HuijiWiki article ID, Encyclopedia of Cacti species ID, bebyggelseområdeskod i Sverige, Israeli Opera site person id, FISH Archaeological Objects Thesaurus Identifier, Musik und Gender im Internet ID, IRIS Piedmont IDs, Slovak Olympic athlete ID, MINEDEX, Library of the Haskala ID


 * Query examples:
 * Most popular Chess openings (by number of sitelinks) (source)
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19:43, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

Hello
Hi Can you check this article this in fact I am skeptical about it, Also he doesn't have three fights in a huge organization like ufc. Mila vecto (talk) 07:25, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

NPP School
Hi, seen as you have some available slots, is there any way you can mentor/teach me in the ways of new page review/patrolling. I have some experience with AfC reviewing but I would like to expand my breadth and could do with some help, if you have time, Kind Regards, <b style="color:blue">Zippybonzo</b> &#124; <b style="color:blue">talk</b> 20:46, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Actually, after I posted this message, Atsme said they would help. <b style="color:blue">Zippybonzo</b> &#124; <b style="color:blue">talk</b> 07:44, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
 * OK. Thanks for informing.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FF8000"> Cassiopeia</b>  talk  08:08, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #516
<div style="margin-top:10px; padding-left:5px; font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif;">Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week. <div style="-moz-column-count:2; -webkit-column-count:2; column-count:2; -webkit-column-width: 400px; -moz-column-width: 400px; column-width: 400px;">


 * Discussions
 * Open request for adminship: Pi admin bot (RfP scheduled to end after 20 April 2022 17:58 UTC)
 * Closed request for adminship: Stang (successful)
 * New requests for permissions/Bot:
 * Stangbot 2. Task/s: Insert electorate (P1831) and keep it updated on Brazilian municipalities and states items
 * AmeisenBot. Task/s: Label unsigned comments on talk pages


 * Events
 * Upcoming:
 * Next Linked Data for Libraries LD4 Wikidata Affinity Group call will be on Tuesday, April 19 at 11 AM Eastern US time: Martin Schibel will be speaking on Entitree. Please note this is one hour earlier than the usual meeting time Agenda
 * The next Wikidata+Wikibase office hours will take place on Wednesday, April 20th 2022 at 17:00 UTC (18:00 Berlin time) in the Wikidata Telegram group. The Wikidata and Wikibase office hours are online events where the development team presents what they have been working on over the past quarter, and the community is welcome to ask questions and discuss important issues related to the development of Wikidata and Wikibase.
 * LD4 Wikibase Working Hour: Learn about Wikibase system exploration, data model development, and the road ahead for Digital Scriptorium. When: Thurs. 21 April 2022, 3PM Eastern US (time zone converter). Where: Registration Link
 * Register for Contribuling – Conference on minority languages and free participative software. Conference date: April 22
 * Online Wikidata meetup in Swedish #105, April 24th at 12.00 UTC


 * Press, articles, blog posts, videos
 * Blogs
 * WeDigBio Transcription workflow "...blogpost...showing how I go from finding the name of a collector when transcribing labels to adding them to Wikidata & then linking them to their collections via Bionomia."
 * More Wikidata metrics on the Dashboard
 * Videos
 * Transfer bibliographic data from Zotero to Wikidata (in Italian) - YouTube
 * Art+Feminism community Hours: Add your event data to Wikidata! - YouTube (En, Fr)
 * other:
 * Decolonizing the Internet’s Structured Data – Summary Report by Whose Knowledge?


 * Tool of the week
 * Bird O'Clock! is a tool based on Wikidata and other data sources that shows pictures and numbers from actual people counting actual birds in the actual world!
 * Tiago's Coin Herbarium is a coin collection depicting different plant information displayed via Wikidata SPARQL queries.


 * Other Noteworthy Stuff
 * Wikidata and Wikibase 2022 development plan has been updated to include activity estimates for the second quarter (Q2).
 * There is a new hub page for the Wikidata Query Service scaling updates, to help you all stay updated.
 * Wikidata metrics are now easily accessible on the Dashboard. Here's an example Dashboard including a blog post above detailing the process.


 * Did you know?


 * Newest properties:
 * General datatypes: taxonomic treatment, co-applicant, applicant, type of a register in Germany, notable role, athletics program, number of teachers, has certification, choreography for, surrounds the enclave, has surface, per capita income, number of blood donors, official observer status in organisation, web interface software, Martian coordinates, suggested data fields, medical indication, number of conferences, historic insurance number (building), pole positions, place of disappearance, code name, reports to, podium finishes, number of likes, number of dislikes, number of comments, rack system, oeconym
 * External identifiers: MangaDex title ID, All.Rugby club ID, traveloka restaurant ID, maPZS trails/locations ID, Kinowiki ID, marriott hotel ID, Chuvash Encyclopedia person ID, Chuvash Encyclopedia place ID, Chuvash Encyclopedia topic ID, HarperCollins product ID, Atlas of Cultural Heritage Calabria cultural place ID, XJustiz registration court ID, Atlante Beni Culturali Calabria item ID, FID performing arts ID, PLOS Thesaurus ID, QQ Music album ID, QQ Music song ID, Beatport track ID, Salzburger Literatur Netz ID, Kramerius of Regional Library in Pardubice UUID, Literatur Netz Oberösterreich ID, 1905.com star ID, OpaqueNamespace ID, deckenmalerei.eu ID, ODOT county code, OpenSanctions ID, CNGAL entry ID, USA Track & Field athlete ID (www.usatf.org), National Associations Register Number Spain, AperTO author ID, IRIS UNIUPO author ID, AlloCiné TV season ID, Library of Parliament of Canada riding ID, ARTEINFORMADO person ID, Slovak Olympic athlete ID, International Jewish Cemetery Project ID, Via Rail station code, WikiApiary farm


 * New property proposals to review:
 * General datatypes: name of victim, Tracks featured in work, smb.museum digital ID, Unique image of unicode char, Historic Oregon Newspapers ID, Thai Romanization, construction start, construction end
 * External identifiers: MINEDEX, Library of the Haskala ID, fanvue creator ID, ACNP library ID, lieferando restaurant ID, Yarus feed ID, Enciclopedia Colchagüina ID, Winterthur Glossar ID, Biographical Memoirs of Fellows of the Royal Society ID, Personality Database work identifier, Hmoegirlpedia, CNKI Institute ID, Peacock ID, techradar review ID


 * Query examples:
 * Birthplace of rappers (source)
 * Bubble chart of occupation of people linked to University of Clermont (source)
 * List of corporate archives, location, and address where available (source)
 * French adventure video games (source)
 * Women with the citizenship of a country and the most articles in other languages (including English) but without an article in French Wikipedia (source)
 * Countries that are bigger (blue) or smaller (red) than all their neighbours (source)


 * Development
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 * REST API: Getting closer to having a first version of the REST API that returns Item data.

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You made a mistake.
My source was not only reliable but the most reliable and everything I said was absolutely correct, starting from the judges scorecards to the fighter's own statement right after the fight in the octagon interview. HexagonalProgression (talk) 21:32, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Pls read the warning message again and if you attack editor again, you will be blocked from editing.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FF8000"> Cassiopeia</b>  talk  01:43, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Tech News: 2022-16
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23:10, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Rejection of Draft: Peter Queally (fighter)
Hey man, I was checking my recent submission of the article Draft:Peter Queally (fighter) when I noticed that it has been declined. Someone who had previously declined the article had told me that it would likely be accepted if submitted again, which is why this was a surprise. It was also rejected on notability grounds (ie the fighter not having 3 fights in Bellator). This is confusing to me because Queally has 4 Bellator fights, has fought for world titles and has headlined shows. Sorry to be a nuisance, but could you clear up for me why this article has been declined (and if I am missing anything blatantly obvious). Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by FFCETT77 (talk • contribs) 21:58, 18 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Good day. I havd explained the reason in the comment section of the draft page prior your message above. Pls read it again and if you still dont understand then pop back here.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FF8000"> Cassiopeia</b>  talk  01:51, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks buddy, I went back and had a look and I still kinda am unsure. Do you know why there are specific time periods for Bellator where fights are seen as being notable enough for a Wikipedia article? And of this is the case, if Queally beats Benson Henderson at Bellator Dublin will this be enough for him to get an article? Is there anything else I can do (ie lots more references or something else)? Thanks (FFCETT77 (talk) 22:09, 19 April 2022 (UTC))


 * Good day. For a MMA fighter to be notable and have a stand alone page in Wikipedia as per NMMA guidelines and GNG,
 * (1) the subject needs to have at least 3 fights under top tier promotions (UFC, Bellator (from 2009 to 2015 and from 2022 onwards for men divisions ; from 2009 to 2015 and from 2021 onwards for Women divisions), and Invicta).
 * (2) the subject fails (1) but have fought for a championship belt under top tier promotion, such as Nicco Montaño.
 * (3) the subject fails (1) but has been in the world top ten under Sherdog or Fight Metrix rankings at anytime of their MMA professional career - such as Janay Harding.
 * (4) the subject pass general notability guidelines if there is anything notable that supported by significant coverage from independent, reliable sources such as from the major newspapers about the subject besides their MMA career (that would considered routine reports) such as Carlos Ulberg who is a MMA fighter and a model.
 * (5) the subject fails (1) but pass other SSG (sport specific notability) such as Alex Pereira who passed NKICK (kickboxing notability guiltiness).


 * To answer your question, Peter Queally does to pass the notability guidelines even after he has fought Hederson, but once he has 3 fights as per (1) then he is notable and not until then.


 * If you are interested in actively edit MMA fighters/events pages, then let me know. I can send you a list of info on the norm of editing MMA related pages, to help you with minimum frustration and edits got revert or receiving warnings. I am here to help and let me know if you have any other questions.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FF8000"> Cassiopeia</b>  talk  02:06, 20 April 2022 (UTC)


 * First of all I want to thank you for helping to clear that up, it makes more sense now. I guess I’ll just have to wait until he fights a few more times. To answer your follow-up, yes I am interested in editing MMA fighter/event pages, and have created Draft: Andre Fialho (fighter), Draft: Zarah Fairn as well as the Peter Queally one. Hopefully they all can be accepted (although Fialho might need one more UFC fight-I’m hoping because Fairn was a top 10 womens featherweight on fightmatrix that’s notable enough). If there are any articles that need creating or editing please throw them my way- it’s quite an enjoyable and efficient process.
 * Thanks again for the help. (FFCETT77 (talk) 10:57, 20 April 2022 (UTC))


 * , In your user page, you mentioned you had numerous Wikipedia accounts, would you pls provide all the usernames of those accounts please?<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FF8000"> Cassiopeia</b>  talk  04:19, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Right so I’m not sure what I was doing or thinking when I wrote that because it makes it sound like those other accounts were relevant, but this is the first account that I’ve ever edited or done anything on, the others were when I was around 8 on old email addresses. (This bit is an edit—- Okay so I had a look and I found an old Wikipedia account that I had from 4 years ago, called User:JE77FFC, but there’s like 4 edits and I didn’t have a clue what I was doing back then) Basically what I was trying to say was that I’ve been using Wikipedia for a long time, but this is the first time that I’m actually contributing to the site. Why do you ask? Is it important?
 * I’ve also updated my user page.
 * (FFCETT77 (talk) 09:42, 21 April 2022 (UTC))

, Good day. This is a long message with lots of info, so you might have to reread it again once you have finished it. See below

(1) (important) Multiple accounts - Clean start - Some editors do have more than one Wikipedia account for a very specific good reasons, such as a few Wikipedia admins have 2 accounts, one the normal/active one, and the other just to set up so they would know how a default user page would look like without changing any of the setting or adding some function via user script so they may assist new editor's questions as they would able to see/understand and answer the new editor certain questions. When an editor create more than one account (say account A (initial) and account B (new account) and edit the same pages for certain particular reasons for certain personal preference - such as edit warring or create the second account after their first account was banned due to certain issues, then it is call WP:SOCK. Sock account will be banned indefinitely and it is a very serious offend. From your info above, I have check your User:JE77FFC's edits (total 8), there are some disruptive edits but seem you dont have any tie with the edits and pages with your new (this) account. I had talked to an admin and they would advice with Clean start - pls read the page and understand it well and follow what the page states (very important) - See the communication btw the admin and I regarding your case - here. I need to check with admin of your case as first, I think you dont know about SOCK and dont know it is not good to have more than one account nor clean start. I am a counter vandalism trainer and new page reviewer trainer in Wikipedia, and many editors would come to me to attend the programs or question regarding MMA editing and but being SOCK without my knowing. Pls do not edit disruptively or making any vandalism / unsourced edits but constructive edits here on.

(2) MMA editing - I have sent the list of editing MMA related pages on your talk page. Kindly read. I suggest your to observe the experienced and regular MMA editors on the events and fighters first for awhile prior editing so you would familiar yourself on how those pages are edited. You can check on the article history page to view the editors' edits and know who are the regular editors. Currently there are 3 editors, HeinzMaster, Ticelon and myself write upcoming notable fighter articles. We would only start writing the fighters page usually after they have fought their second fight in top promotion event. HeinzMasterl has help out writing a lot of the content Draft:Peter Queally (fighter) - you can go to the draft article history log to see them.

(3) WikiProject Mixed martial arts] - If you want to know more about Wikipedia MMA project - pls go to WikiProject Mixed martial arts

(4) Welcome page - Pls read the Welcome page on your talk page and check out the links so your may understand some of the basic Wikipedia guidelines.

(5) Draft pages - As for the Draft:André Fialho (fighter I have change the fighter name with local name (with accent marks). I have declined the draft page. I have outline in details of the NMMA and GNG notability guidelines to you on the previous message, may I know why you still submit the draft page since it fails the NMMA guidelines. As Draft: Zarah Fairn - I have moved to Zarah Fairn Dos Santos and accepted the page.

Let me know if anything else I could help. Welcome to Wikipedia and thank your editing MMA page. Stay safe and best.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FF8000"> Cassiopeia</b>  talk  04:59, 23 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Thank you for taking the time to write this and check with other members of this community. I have read all of the links and attached information and I’ll continue to follow the rules as per. I might not be as active as before because I’ve got GCSEs (big UK exams) in a month, but thanks again for your help.
 * (FFCETT77 (talk) 10:49, 23 April 2022 (UTC))


 * . Study hard and all the best. See you when you in a month. Stay safe and best.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FF8000"> Cassiopeia</b>  talk  22:58, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

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