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September 2013
Hello, I'm Ronz. I wanted to let you know that I undid one or more of your recent contributions because it appeared to be promotional. Advertising and using Wikipedia as a "soapbox" are against Wikipedia policy and not permitted. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. Thank you.

Please review WP:COI in case it might apply.

As for the proper use of images in articles, see MOS:IMAGES. --Ronz (talk) 19:35, 24 September 2013 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry you've taken offense at Ronz' message above (per your message at his talk-page). Ronz' reasoning is scrupulous, and I have to agree with his interpretation of Wikipedia's policies regarding images, external links and possible conflict of interest in this case. It's not a dismissal of your personal or professional expertise. It's simply that the images (glorious though they be) and external links to a commercial site (which is also used as a reference) add up to a promotion of products for sale. In other words, advertising. If you were willing to unconditionally release the images to Wikipedia for free use under license, with no form of linkage to the commercial site, they might be usable in articles - though I see now that they're already released; so it's down to how they're used, and how they're credited in the text. I'm sure this can all be worked out, given time and careful attention to matters of policy. Haploidavey (talk) 21:30, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

Hi there. I understand your and Ronz's reading of the policies. I apologize for coming across as combative - this was not my intention. I am just generally offended by unnecessary censorship, which this struck me as being. I am happy to discuss the changes that I can make here that would allow for the images that I uploaded to be reinstated - I honestly believe, as an individual who has spent considerable time in the "rug world," that the best way to communicate the artistry inherent in fine weaves is to show people what the best pieces look like. I suppose most of the agitation that came across in my original post on Ronz's talk page has its origins in my surprise and disappointment in having my work censored without explanation - something that could have been avoided if Ronz (as scrupulous as I am sure that he or she is) had done something other than post a stock bit of text on my talk page saying that "wikipedia is not a soapbox."

Imagine my surprise - as an art historian and rug expert who took a great deal of time and initiative to search down these images, contact the gallery who owns them, and then upload them, all for the sake of art - upon being told that the images had been taken down because I seem to be some sort of shill. Perhaps I erred by falling too heavily on the side of crediting my source too much, a byproduct of lots of graduate work research, in which this is the preferred way to err. I can get on board with that. It is frustrating, though, that we are only now arriving at the stage of the conversation in which we discuss how the images ought to be uploaded and used.

I thought that - just perhaps - Ronz and I could talk this out, but he or she has given both of my thoughtful comments posted on his or her page total non-responses that are offensive, irrelevant, patronizing, and, quite frankly, ridiculous. These incredibly frustrating and nonsensical non-responses are characteristic of the very worst sort of faceless bureaucracy that creates a class divide between the enfranchised and the disenfranchised. Ronz's communications with me concerning this issue are Orwellian, Kafkaesque, and - I say this as a lover of Wikipedia - detrimental to the entire experience of this site. I applaud the effort of Wikipedians like Ronz who want to make the encyclopedia stronger, individuals who take the time to thanklessly go through hundreds of pages on a daily basis, keeping them free of spam. But being treated like a petulant child by being told "just vent your anger first and then we can chat like adults afterwards," Ronz, a non-administrator, is trying to create a divide between himself or herself and me - he or she is the authority figure who does not need to explain his or her actions, and I am the ignorant offender who might see reason after being given time to relax.

Why cannot it be that, when changes are made to changes, we explain precisely why they are being made, determine if there is an alternative way for the changes to be made, and then work together to create something that benefits the entire community? This to me seems like a much, much better option than random Wikipedians appointing themselves as police and then proceeding to give people "citations" for acting inappropriately and then ignoring that individual's thoughts, ideas, and suggestions, telling them they have to relax, this is just how it is, I know better, do your homework and come back and maybe then we can chat. Such behavior is wrong, and it hurts this community. Irrespective how much good Ronz does for Wikipedia, when he or she behaves this way, he or she damages the entire experience.

Let's please, for the sake of all, discuss how these images might be used in this page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Catanzariti (talk • contribs) 14:15, 27 September 2013‎

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