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The Signpost: 16 January 2023
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Good article reassessment for Arbroath
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Administrators' newsletter – February 2023
News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2023).

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 * Following an RfC, the administrator policy now requires that prior written consent be gained from the Arbitration Committee to mark a block as only appealable to the committee.
 * Following a community discussion, consensus has been found to impose the extended-confirmed restriction over the topic areas of Armenia and Azerbaijan and Kurds and Kurdistan.

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 * The arbitration case Armenia-Azerbaijan 3 has been opened and the proposed decision is expected 24 February 2023.
 * In December, the contentious topics procedure was adopted which replaces the former discretionary sanctions system. The contentious topics procedure is now in effect following an initial implementation period. There is a detailed summary of the changes and administrator instructions for the new procedure. The arbitration clerk team are taking suggestions, concerns, and unresolved questions about this new system at their noticeboard.
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AOC in Category:American bartenders
Hi there, could you elaborate on why you don't think Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez doesn't belong in this category? She isn't a bartender now, of course, but neither are Mark Cuban, Paul LePage, or Austin Rogers (Jeopardy! contestant). Nor is her work as a bartender obscure trivia; it's mentioned in the article lede and has often been mentioned in coverage of her.

Now, I could've sworn we used to have a guideline about this that used the example of Ronald Reagan not being in, but I failed to find it yesterday--and today I see he is in that category. So... what's the argument for excluding AOC from this one? --BDD (talk) 20:57, 28 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Is she a bartender? Is it even a remotely relevant or noteworthy aspect of her persona? I had assumed this was the work of a troll vandalising an article... apologies for that.  Catfish  Jim  and the soapdish  21:42, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
 * She was, yes, and categories cover previous statuses too. shows lots of relevant results, whether positive ("She's a real working person!"), negative ("She's nothing but a bartender!"), or neutral. I can certainly understand being very vigilant with a controversial topic like this, but no trolling intended, no. I'll go ahead and re-add it; we can always go to the talk page if needed. --BDD (talk) 21:51, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
 * I won't revert you or take it up on the talk page. I am surprised that an editor with your experience thinks this appropriate, but I don't want to fall out about it.  Catfish  Jim  and the soapdish  22:24, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
 * I do recall the policy being different, but since even the canonical example I remember (Reagan and lifeguards) is no longer valid... --BDD (talk) 23:50, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
 * I haven't looked at the policy,, but it seems to me that this is a valid inclusion, yes. Drmies (talk) 02:27, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – March 2023
News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2023).

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Technical news
 * The results of the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey have been posted.

Arbitration
 * Remedy 11 ("Request for Comment") of the Conduct in deletion-related editing case has been rescinded.
 * The proposed decision for the Armenia-Azerbaijan 3 case is expected 7 March 2023.
 * A case related to the Holocaust in Poland is expected to be opened soon.

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The Signpost: 9 March 2023
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Quotation
It is a rule of thumb (one so obvious that we probably don't have a written policy on it) that you absolutely should not use references you have never seen, no matter how sure you are that it must say what you want it to say. -- Catfish Jim and the soapdish 08:14, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

Would you mind if I put that quote on my userpage? I feel it SHOULD have a capslink. Maybe WP:CATFISHJIM. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 15:55, 16 March 2023 (UTC)


 * No problem at all... feel free!  Catfish  Jim  and the soapdish  16:12, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

Pict Dispute
You commented at DRN that was editing disruptively. I am about to open moderated discussion if at least two editors agree to moderated discussion. My question is whether you would like to be involved in the discussion, either as the moderator, as another volunteer, or as a party to the discussion, or whether you plan to observe the discussion, or to leave it alone. (Any answer is fine with me. I would just like to know what if any your role will be, after you have cautioned the filing editor.)  Robert McClenon (talk) 05:01, 9 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi Robert, I'll be party to the discussion. The dispute is due to LP95's inexperience... we've all been there. I'd rather not have to have him topic banned, but it may be necessary.  Catfish  Jim  and the soapdish  23:12, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Now the dispute over the editor is getting weird, because the editor has weird ideas. At first I thought that there was concern about LightProof95's posts about reincarnation. and transgender people.  Not exactly.  No comma.  I now see that they are posting about the cause-and-effect relationship between reincarnation and transgender.  Robert McClenon (talk) 21:18, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes. It took me a bit of time to get my head around it. I didn't enjoy taking this to ANI, knowing how it would go down, but the trajectory was unavoidable. I feel quite sorry for LP95 and find this quite telling .  Catfish  Jim  and the soapdish  21:39, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
 * It was sad how rapidly the tide turned from hearing that a topic-ban might be necessary to discussion of a site ban. This was a case of a user who was in a hole and continued digging.  Robert McClenon (talk) 04:29, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't think it could have been prevented. What we have is a very enthusiastic editor who is making mistakes that are causing a massive time sink for those they interact with. I think they're quite young, possibly a lot younger than the 1995 in the username might suggest. I don't know if the problematic behaviour can be solved through mentoring, but I have offered some help.
 * I noticed your admin hopeful userbox. I haven't had any time to go through your edit history, but I have a feeling you might make a good candidate... are you sure you're interested and do you have a thick skin?  Catfish  Jim  and the soapdish  17:51, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

Picts
Well done and thanks for handling this: it was really well done, and in you refutations I learned a lot about Scottish history and the historical method:) It had seemed a simple competence issue until about half-way though the ANI; wow what a blow out. To be fair the came clean in a big way, but the indef was right...and given their interest in the Picts, my guess is that the editor was prone to the bizzar, and was going to hop from topic to topic misunderstanding google book previews, making bold claims and bludgeoning into exhaustion anyone who actually knew the content area. Ceoil (talk) 01:00, 18 March 2023 (UTC)


 * It wasn't particularly enjoyable, but there was no other way to fix the issue, other than WP:IARing a block... but WP:INVOLVED is something I wouldn't want to mess too much with.  Catfish  Jim  and the soapdish  11:29, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

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Recently banned editor you are mentoring
An editor you have been mentoring was recently site banned by the community, which according to the policy page means they are a persona non grata across the ENTIRE site and cannot edit anywhere. I think that means this mentorship program is functionally over and you should move on. (Copied from user’s talk page after getting kicked off it) Dronebogus (talk) 23:28, 20 March 2023 (UTC)


 * I'm viewing this as part of his appeal process. Bans/blocks are not supposed to be punitive, they are preventative.  Catfish  Jim  and the soapdish  07:37, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

Change old user page to redir?
Hi. I see you're an admin and a friend of Ceoil's. Is there any way I can change my old user page, Lingzhi.Random, to a redir to my current username? If you can't do it, that's OK. Ceoil can verify I'm me via email. Thank in advance, Lingzhi.Renascence (talk) 00:50, 3 April 2023 (UTC)

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Administrators' newsletter – April 2023
News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2023).

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Arbitration
 * The Armenia-Azerbaijan 3 case has been closed.
 * A case about World War II and the history of Jews in Poland has been opened, with the first evidence phase closing 6 April 2023.

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Not going to ask you
But I assumed you'd seen the Wikipediocracy thread exposing their pedophilia and KKK membership. Shame T&S weren't on the ball like that *facepalm* They literally let him carry on for years. SN54129 17:30, 1 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Yes, that is my reason.  Catfish  Jim  and the soapdish  17:43, 1 April 2023 (UTC)


 * If anyone else is interested, I indeffed on the basis of this...  I will not discuss this matter in terms of whether the block was appropriate, if the community feels I have overstepped the mark, then so be it.  Catfish   Jim <small style="COLOR:#313F33"> and the soapdish  17:51, 1 April 2023 (UTC)


 * The community will buy you a bloomin' good drink in celebration if it does nothing else. And recommend you for head of T&S!  SN54129  19:39, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
 * +1. 👍  -- Jayron <b style="color:#090">32</b> 18:35, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I’m reporting this charming individual on WMC and am going to look into a global ban from Wikimedia. Dronebogus (talk) 12:07, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

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Administrators' newsletter – May 2023
News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2023).

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 * Progress has started on the Page Triage improvement project. This is to address the concerns raised by the community in their 2022 WMF letter that requested improvements be made to the tool.

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 * The proposed decision in the World War II and the history of Jews in Poland case is expected 11 May 2023.

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