User talk:CatherineMunro/Archive6

Talk to me! I will answer on your talk page, but may copy or summarize here so I remember what we talked about.

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I'm back
Hi Catherine,

Glad to see someone's furthered the Duran content on the Wiki. The template at the bottom rocks. Only drawback, it shows how much more we have to go. Glad to be able to lend a hand finishing off some of the entries.

--Feduciary 23:50, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the edits
Thanks alot for editing my article "Union of the Snake". It's my first one on Wikipedia, so I greatly appreciate your expansion of what I wrote. Your website was a big help when writing it; sorry I didn't reference it, I forgot to do that. I'm a big fan of "Duran Duran" as well and would definitely like to see(and maybe create) more articles about their albums and singles. Any other advice you could give me would be greatly appreciated! Ferrick, 23:42, 2 May 2006
 * Hey again! Check out Come Undone. I expanded on what you wrote as well as gave the article more aesthetic appeal. On a sidenote: why does everyone write (UTC) after leaving a comment?

Ferrick, 22:08, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

The Lovely Bones
Happy Thanksgiving and thank you so much for the compliment. As the creator and primary author of much of that article, it really means a lot that someone with administrative privileges comes down, takes a look and likes what she sees.

I'm encouraged. Think it could go for peer review? Daniel Case 01:28, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

Catherine, you might not remember me but...
You welcomed me as a new member back in July, and I was just promoted as an administrator here at Wikipedia, the most important online information resource! You were virtually the first editor I asked for advice and you gave me a nice welcome that I was not expecting. And good advice. That set a nice tone for me, as an editor, and since I have always watched your user/talk page for vandalism. I'll try to live up to what I have seen in your work, namely, a very high standard. Hamster Sandwich 02:05, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

Why am I here
I put your Why am I here? text on my meta user page useful links. It is a remarkable essay. Thank you :) villy  ♦ ✎  22:02, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

I love your work
...on the Signpost. Thank you! --James S. 18:47, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

How I came across your page
I was looking for examples of the way the other people had formatted their user pages and somewhere along the page I came across yours. I refer to it occassionally to see what work you’re up to. I like the portal page you designed. As I was looking at the page I realized that no one had ever said thanks – so there you are! Keep up the great work! evrik 23:22, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Her name is Rio and she dances on the sand
How many featured articles do you have to your credit? --evrik 18:33, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

First edit day
Congratulations on three years of Wikipedia! Here's a little champagne to celebrate the occasion. —Kirill Lok s hin 01:10, 13 February 2006 (UTC)


 * From me too! Essjay  Talk •  Contact 01:16, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Jon Finn
Thanks for the great cleanup you did on Jon Finn. Before your cleanup I couldn't even tell if he deserved an article, now it looks and reads great. --Martyman- (talk) 06:07, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

Ale
Thanks for the compliments. Another area I've done similar work on in the past is the rigging of tall ships - things like gaskets, footropes, and clewlines and buntlines. A few pretty pictures there too! PeteVerdon 19:29, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Nice work
Really good job on Point -- you are a disambig master! Ewlyahoocom 19:02, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

A Fond Hello
If you're an idealist, I'm a cynic. I've recently run into several people on wikipedia that are not vandals but what I feel are a bigger threat to wikipedia, people that truly believe they are right. Anyway, although we've never crossed paths (I stumbled upon your page via the trifecta userbox, in case you were curious) on an article, I enjoyed your user page (although I thought the daily deeds section was a bit spurious) and felt compelled to leave a comment. It's clear to me that you don't think of yourself as a leader, at least not any more than being a mother implies, but to simply refer to you as leading by example doesn't sufficiently capture it. Perhaps it is better put by Ray Kroc when he said, "The quality of a leader is reflected in the standards they set for themselves." Here's my thanks to you, not for raising the standards of articles but of Wikipedia.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Vicarious (talk • contribs) 03:30, 20 February 2006

vandal request
The sad part is I think my page actually looks better. I guess it's like when vandals spraypaint a concrete wall and art critics approve. Vicarious 22:37, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually I changed my mind, I don't even think you were trying to vandalize. Put some ghusto into it, add some stupid internet meme like "all your base are belong to catherine" or something. As is, it appears you're not cutout for a life of crime. Vicarious 23:55, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Much better Vicarious 05:33, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I'll say the same thing I say every time I watch Chris Rock perform, I'll get around to being offended after I stop laughing. Vicarious 08:07, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

RE: happy first edit day
I just joined Esperanza a few days ago after wanting to join (but forgetting to do so) for weeks. (It appears I joined just a time for a nice welcome!) Your user page is interesting, too. You should move the essay to User:CatherineMunro/Essay, add the subpage to Category:Wikipedia essays, and then just put the essay on your main user page using a template inclusion function (that is, ). As for my user page, I have to admit that I was inspired by User:Essjay's user page (who, coincidentally, also welcomed me) after I saw he won the user page design contest. (Mine still isn't as cool as his is, though.) Happy almost 10,000th edit day! -- M @  th  wiz  20  20  20:54, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Your comment is needed
Please go to this link. Your comments are needed. evrik 17:20, 24 February 2006 (UTC) Congratulations

Category:Wikihalo award recipients

-- evrik 18:05, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thank you, from freezing Scotland! Nach0king 00:16, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

I'm thanking you for an entirely different reason. I was just puzzled over how to make the Are You a Wikipediholic userbox display a score. You happened to be the first person on the list that that box linked to. So, thank you.

The coolest person you know - 65.190.27.197 04:10, 26 March 2006 (UTC)


 * My signature didn't work that time. So, here ya go.


 * The coolest person you know - The Ninth Bright Shiner 4:13, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Picture problem
Hello again. I have uploaded two pictures that are of my own creation (just using Windows' "Paint" program), they are custom CD covers (yeah I know, pretty simple), that contain no Copyrighted images or anything like that. But Wikipedia has put a tag on it that says: WARNING: This fair use image has been tagged as orphaned because it is not used inline. If it is not used in the article namespace within 7 days, it will be speedy deleted. Since it is a custom CD cover for a custom CD, I couldn't justify creating an article for it, other than on my own User Page. But I do want it on my User Page, is there any way that I can still have it on my User Page, or do I just need to let Wikipedia delete it? Thanks for Your Time Jay 20:08, 3 March 2006 (UTC)


 * All right, I've re-uploaded the images under GFDL-self I will just let Wikipedia delete the old files. Thanks for all of your help  --   P.S. How did I just put the blue border around my text? Jay 20:34, 3 March 2006 (UTC)


 * I thought that might have been how I did it, but I've never done that before. Sorry about putting the messages at the top. Thanks for deleting the old pictures, I will remember to just retag any pictures in the future. Thanks Jay 20:56, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Border spacing
Thank you for your help on the table problem I posted on the Village Pump. Your code sample solves most of my obstacles in creating a table model with modularity. I tried to adjust the space between the inner border and the central table, to match it with the cell spacing, but it just won't go small enough. For your convenience, here's the link: User:Go for it!/table test 2.

As for modularity, I'm having trouble diversifying cells. Here's what I need to do:
 * 1) Divide the bottom box in the right hand column into two boxes sitting side-by-side.
 * 2) Divide the right-hand box (of the two boxes just created in #1) into two boxes, one above the other.

Thanks for your help so far, I really appreciate it. --Go for it! 05:58, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Regarding vandalism.
Hi Catherine, my name is Jared and I'm having a little problem. Another user and I recently put up three users for a possible sockpuppetry claim (see here) because of overwhelming evidence that states so (and its taking a long time to get this over with; only one user has posted a comment). My problem is that User:Wintermetal keeps taking the sockpupper template off of his home and discussion pages, stating in his edit summary that I should "ruin my own home page". He has done this every time I revert it back, and I warn him of a potential block every time, but he doesn't care (and I'm not an admin). Could you please help me....maybe block him or something...let him know he is not supposed to take the notice off of his page (which incidentally makes him more suspicious of sockpuppetry!) Thanks a lot! -- Jared  [T]/[+ ] 14:49, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Palm (PDA)
Well, you wanted an intro on Palm (PDA) - so, you got it! Good idea. Thanks ;-). Think it got lost in the wikipedianolictic way the page swooped in from a somewhat different origin. And I know this has nothing to do with Palm (PDA) and is extremely strong POV, but hey, I like your photo, you are dead cute Catherine!  Where are you from?  ;-) Brusselsshrek 21:49, 9 March 2006 (UTC)  Oh, incidentally, if you want to know what I look like, you can check out my fingernails holding the Palm m100, I mean, I know gals like to check a guys fingernails and all that...Brusselsshrek 21:51, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Problems with User Bachs
Hello Catherine. Perhaps you can put on your admin cap and help with a burgeoning problem. User:Bachs has inserted original research and POV material in a variety of articles which can be seen here. When others edit or prune what he has inserted, he simply reverts to his material again and marks the changes rv vandalism. He seems to have a particular animosity toward User:NatusRoma, having removed many of that user's contributions today and marked such changes as (RV NatusRoma's vandalism).

It seems to me -- and to another user who commented on NatusRoma's user page -- that some admin intervention is in order. Thank you... David Hoag 17:56, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Thank You
J.Steinbock (Talk)

Psst
Hi Catherine! Thank you for the barnstar and much needed arrangement of the bottom of my userpage - I didn't mind at all. Your choice of (on the barnstar) "calm words" was fundamental, for I was far from calm at one stage. I have reflected on your words, and will try to remain calm in the future.

My sister thought it was hilarious that I thoroughly agreed with Noelledeg's comment "When I grow up I want to be CatherineMunro" at your WikiHalo nomination, but it's true. Thank you! --Commander Keane 19:27, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Thank you
I just wanted to let you know that the table project you helped me on is complete (at least the formatting, anyways - still working on the content), and if you are interested in seeing how it turned out, here's the link: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Community_Portal&oldid=44415524 I appreciate your help, and if you ever need my help, don't hesitate to ask. --Go for it! 23:03, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Image:Caroline Munro as Naomi in 'The Spy Who Loved Me' (cmunrospy).jpg

 * I appreciate the laugh on the pic you added to my userpage -- I'm afraid it's gone now, but I thank you very much for the thought and the smile.  (No, definitely not Caroline Munro -- just Catherine).  Cheers!  &mdash; Catherine\talk 05:53, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Yikes, you're a movie star already! Is there anything you haven't done?! Anyhow, glad you enjoyed the passing giggle. Best wishes, David 12:08, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Another media mention
Please don't forget this one -- it's really good. --James S. 20:12, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Jim Nuzzle
New article about his attacked entry Agathoclea 22:47, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Language order on www.wikipedia.org
Hiya, I recall from last year that you were involved in creating the page on http://www.wikipedia.org. What's the order of the languages in the three tiers based on? Mutante is currently trying to write a script that would create this page automatically (thereby making the numbers a bit more up to date) but he's struggling with this issue. Can you please help? Or do you know who could? (I've already asked AlanBarrett and Node ue, but they both appear to be on wikibreaks at the moment.) Thanks! GeorgeStepanek\talk 08:20, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Jim Nussle in the WikipediA signpost.
You wrote the section that includes a note about a PoV campaign editing that page (Jim Nussle), think that should also mention the Arbitration case going on over other policy violating edits to that articel? Thanx. 68.39.174.238 02:24, 30 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Granted, but I thought it might be worth while to say something like "The articel on Nussel is also involved in an unrelated ARq involving other WikipediA editors" or something, however since it's already published, I'll leave it be. 68.39.174.238 05:02, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Edit to User:SwissCelt/Youngstown
Thank you for your contribution to my userspace. However, I must say that the change wasn't necessary, as I'll be reconciling differences between my changes and the original article when (and if) I implement my version. The article you edited wasn't in the namespace, and is not a reader-usable part of the Wikipedia project. Feel free to consult User page if you need more information. Thanks, and best wishes! -- SwissCelt 18:08, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Instruction Creep
I'm the one who coined the term. I started the meta article on it. This is *EXACTLY* what I was aiming for. Raul654 05:18, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Editing Signage
I tweaked the SOS CD and News articles this week; hope it's alright in each case. Cheers, +sj + 04:12, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Your Essay
Hi Catherine. I have loved the essay which heads your talk page. Your style and message reminds me very much of the writings of Beatrice Warde the American writer about printing and typography. She penned the famous broadside This is a Printing Office ... which adorned many hot-metal printing office from the mid 1930s onwards. Like WP it also got translated into many languages. Kind regards Apwoolrich 21:08, 17 April 2006 (UTC)


 * I must echo Apwoolrich's comments. I have taken the liberty of linking to your essay on my user page along with other "Thought Provoking Essays and Neat Links". I hope you don't mind... it's quite good and thanks for sharing it with us all! + +Lar: t/c 22:37, 17 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your thanks. Maybe we ought to be concocting a broadside - This is an encyclopedia...?? In no more word that BW used on hers! Tough assignment, I think. I had better get on write a piece about Beatrice Warde as well. Kind regards. Apwoolrich 07:50, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

I saw the broadside you did on User_talk:Apwoolrich. It's neat in appearance, evoking "this is a printing office" effectively, and very well written. I think I want to nick it if you don't mind (yes, this is a wiki but it's polite to ask). Best regards.  + + Lar: t/c 00:26, 27 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Your broadside is great stuff! Congratulations! How do we get it on the Main Page??. I shall welcome your technical advice, please. In the printed version of BW's text some words are highlighted in red. Is it possible to do this in Mediawiki? The layout of the text on the BW page is as it was printed, but I have to smallify some of the lines to replicate the emphasis she gave to the original. I also have to add a section about her writings. Kind regards. Apwoolrich 07:16, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

wikipedia.org portal
Thought you might like to know since you designed it, the latest issue of .net magazine highlights this page as an example of great design with impact. :-) the wub "?!"  23:03, 17 April 2006 (UTC)


 * It's in their cover feature on how to create sites with impact. They highlight "Ten sites that have instant impact", and Wikipedia is one of them. There's a screenshot of the wikipedia.org portal, and they say "Wikipedia pages aren't much to look at. The collaborative encyclopedia overcomes this with two landing pages. The first is a high-impact splash page with language options, search and navigation, while the second highlights current content." Some of the other sites chosen are Google, Flickr and BBC News Online. the wub "?!"  22:39, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Clans of Scotland Wikiproject.
Hello, there. I'm going around to all the listed participants of the Clans of Scotland WikiProject, asking for a short update on whate they're up to as far as the project goes. I want to see if this project is still viable, and I'm wondering if anyone else is still actively participating. Please see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Clans of Scotland. Canaen 19:14, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Formatting for music articles
Thanks for the heads-up. I hadn't known that. I'll bear that in mind in future! Regards, --BillC 07:41, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Beatrice Warde article
Hi Catherine. I have just posted this. Found I also had to write articles about her mother and her husband, and I still have a couple more to research and write to complete the story. Kind regards. Apwoolrich 19:45, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

This is a Printing Office on the BW page
Dear Catherine, sorry to be a pain, but could you unformat the text of the broadside on the BW page. The Princeton layout is wrong and I am trying to find the right version for you. As designed by BW it occupies a page about 18in x 2ft, with lines set out as I originally wrote them and centred down the page. The Princeton layout model destroys the declamatory and inscriptional nature of it, I fear.

As BW designed it the large word 'WORDS' in the line 'From this place ...' is in red, as is the whole of the line ' Friend you stand...' There was also a single red fleuron, centered, separating the second and third lines. As far as I can tell there is no way of doing fleurons in Mediawiki, and there seems nothing suitable on UTF-8. Microsoft Monotype Sorts has them, but not the one in question.

Warde graded the sizes of type to indicate emphasis as if the words were spoken. I had planned to add codes to the lines to vary the letter heights to try and indicate this.

I do like the border and the background and do appreciate your efforts on this. I am sure we will get there. Kind regards. Apwoolrich 18:09, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Hi Catherine. The original layout and the relative word heights can be seen in the (legible) thumbnail on

The Princeton version is in fact a keepsake made for a master printers' dinner or conference in the States in about 1950 (Isn't Google wonderful!)

If you/we could get nearer to BW's original layout, it would have more impact, I feel. Yours. Apwoolrich 18:25, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Hmm... I keep putting an oar in but since this particular broadside is so well known, I wonder if it should have its own article! Maybe not, Google doesn't find THAT many hits.  + + Lar: t/c 18:39, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Hi Catherine. This looks good. Is there any way of making it look more chunky as the original, with the lines laid out as BW wrote it, please? In my Google search, I have been surprised to see the number of versions where there are subtle changes, just a word here and there, yet all claiming to be the BW version. Very odd. Kind regards. Apwoolrich 07:20, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Hi Catherine. I've tweaked the box width to 60% which makes the layout as BW designed it. I did this in fear and trembling, never having messed with HTML on WP before. One learns something new every day! Kind regards Apwoolrich 20:07, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

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John Taylor articles
Hi Catherine, I am curious to know about your interest in articles with this name. I have a biography of John Taylor 1779-1863, an English mining enginer and and engineer. I will write a WP piece about him when I have finished with the Beatrice Warde saga. As well as her piece I have had to write more than half a dozen more from scratch to complete the background. All because I read your Essay and thought how alike your writing styles and themes are! Kind regards. Apwoolrich 20:15, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your message, I see there are 34 John Taylors in the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, so there is a way to go. UK and N Ireland public library subscribers have just gained free access by logging on with their library IDs. and I can do the same with the online version of The Times. Kind regards Apwoolrich 05:39, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Rio
Don't worry about it. I wasn't trying to be as pompus as I sounded. I just felt the synth arp, in Rio, was something that should stick out. I also made a note on the Rio discussion page.

I noticed that you're the person who runs the Duran Duran timeline. I've used a lot of the information on that site, to build pages for the singles. Just wanted say thanks for the page.

Anyway, hope to see more contributions for Duran Duran, and other pages.

(Human historian 06:21, 5 May 2006 (UTC))

Signpost - Thanks
Thanks for writing the Bugs, Repairs, and Internal Operational News section. It's my favorite part. -Ravedave 04:47, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

NEED HELP
I got onto Wikipedia today, and someone had just up and deleted some of the pages I've recently made. They weren't even listed as Articles For Deletion or anything, let alone they were good articles anyway. Here are the pages that were deleted:
 * DJ Cheapshot
 * SpyTech Records
 * 4-Zone (rapper)

I don't know how to restore the pages myself, so I'd like your help please. Thank You. Jay 18:58, 12 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Ok. There was a page that I updated that was very similiar, but it survived deletion. The DJ DJ Cheapshot is a very notable DJ. He's actually one of the most sought after in Hollywood. Although the rapper 4-Zone is fairly new to the scene (his debut album comes out June 6th), I thought that maybe he should have a page. And as for SpyTech Records, it is the record label for DJ Cheapshot, and has some notable musicians signed to it, so it definitley deserves a page. I will present this arguement where you said. Thanks for all your help! Jay 19:42, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah, half of the problem is we get 50 trillion of them on requests for speedy every day, one of the records was up for speedy and seeing the linked articles, it seemed to follow that logic. AFIAK it was a CSD'able, I took a look thru google for hits hence the CSD but I'm more than willing to look at the DRV. Thanks for the note :) -- Tawker 20:21, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Possible Bug?
Try by yourself:
 * 1) Go to your watchlist
 * 2) Select Diff for the most recent entry of a page (i.e. Articles_for_deletion/El_kondor_pada)
 * 3) Now hover your mouse over "edit this page". You can see that instead being, let's say http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/El_kondor_pada&action=edit, it shows something like http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/El_kondor_pada&action=edit&oldid=52896575 , even if when you click on "edit" that is at that particular moment the most recent version.
 * 4) If you edit it and someone has added something going through the standard http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/El_kondor_pada&action=edit, you will overwrite their edits, as wikipedia assumes you know you are editing an out of date version (you only really get the warning the first time you click on an old version, but not if at the time it was the most recent one)
 * 5) Well, the moral of the story is to ensure I always edit using the link to "edit this page" from the article namespace not from the history/diffs window.

I am leaving this note as I saw your name at the Wikipedia Signpost/2006-05-08/Technology report. Not sure if you can help or you know who to talk to. the thing is this "bug" has got me into troubles a couple of times as people think I am using misleading edit summaries and removing entries. Thanks, --Asterion talk to me 18:22, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Battle of Kettle Creek
I wanted to thank you for your edits to the Battle of Kettle Creek article and for your nice comments. I have made a number of smalll edits to other article on Wikipedia, but this was my first article that I actually wrote. It is nicve to know your work is appreciated every so often. In fact, I have recieve such good response to the Battle of Kettle Creek article thjat I am preparing to do a second. Thanks again and may God bless you! (Steve 03:17, 15 May 2006 (UTC))

Deletion review/Israel News Agency
Hi, you contributed to discussions at Articles for deletion/Israel News Agency. It was deleted by User:Danny, but not done as an Office Action. As you contributed to the original AFD, I was wondering if you would take the opportunity to make comment at DRV. Please note that if it remains deleted then I'm not terribly fussed. However, given that the community found that it was notable and should be kept, and it was not slanderous (that I can see) then I relisted it. - Ta bu shi da yu 12:05, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Help with Earth Observation Satellites category
Hi Catherine,

I've made some specific suggestions in the discussion page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_talk:Earth_observation_satellites to re-structure the way information is offered. Can I ask you to either look at this and help me re-organize the site or let me know who might be a Wikipedia Administrator with interests or responsibilities in this field? Thanks a lot in advance for your help. --82.58.197.211 15:51, 21 May 2006 (UTC).
 * Sorry, I just noticed I had forgotten to sign in before asking for your help. Cheers, Michel M Verstraete 19:10, 21 May 2006 (UTC).

Deletion of the recreated Bootlegproduction article
Greetings and salutations,

I created an article called bootlegproduction. It was deleted by Radiokirk because it was more of a list than it was an article. Radiokirk's comment to me was that it must be worthy of an encyclopedia and not a "laundry list of items". He later wrote that it has the potential to be an article, but it cannot be in such form as a list. After editing major portions of it, I reposted it, only to have it deleted by you on the grounds that it was a "recreation of deleted content at Bootlegproductions". Please respond to me why it is wrong for an article to existence only because it had been deleted in it's former state, even if the article was edited to standards that could seem fit for an encyclopedia, Bobcheezy 17:41 23 May 2006

Disambiguating using popups
Hi Catherine. Thanks ever so much for the tip you left on my talk page, I really appreciate it. I've added the option and shift-refreshed to reload my JS file. Still not sure what to do next though... could you give me a very quick tutorial please? :) Thanks. --kingboyk 08:45, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Citing Wikipedia
Hi there. You had responded to a comment I had made on the Citing Wikipedia page, asking for evidence of Harvard JOLT's citation style for Wikipedia. Well, we finally got the latest version up. It is at: http://jolt.law.harvard.edu/articles/v19.php. Look at any of the SPRING articles and you'll see the new citation format. Not sure what else I should do - advise? Thanks! Ksm10 06:20, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Mediation request
Hi there, I'm currently searching for someone to act as a casual advisor in my case vs. before I consider taking it to RfM or RfA. I've already been "given" assistance by the Mediation Cabal but as I received no useful response from my mediator and no effective actions were taken, I've had to search for other means. I believe an administrator will eventually be needed to take firm action on this user, but I would rather take some measure of mediation before I start contacting anyone else.

My formal request and all the evidence is listed at Mediation_Cabal/Cases/2006-05-22_Extremely_uncooperative_user%2C_reoccuring_edit_wars, along with the response I got from the MC.

I also gave a brief clarification on the acting Mediators talk page here.

If you want me to explain my case any more or if you can help me out in any way here, please leave a message on my talk page. Thanks a lot. freshofftheufo ΓΛĿЌ  06:16, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Point
Thanks for mild-mannered and coherent comments! I've responded. Dweller 11:09, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Cite text
Just so you know, you left out the closing tag in your edit on May 19th; that broke the AMA and BibTeX entries. I've just fixed it. Thanks for adding the JOLT version, though. JesseW, the juggling janitor 19:44, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Delete request
Hi Catherine -- I found you on the list of current sysops and you're just so darn welcoming, I thought I'd ask you for help! I uploaded a photo yesterday for use in an article on Princess Märtha Louise of Norway. It's the lower photo of her at a book signing. Unfortunately I uploaded an uncropped version first and it's really ugly. I corrected it with a newer version but the old one is still there waiting for a sysop to delete it. Could you? I appreciate the help as I learn the ropes here! Estreya 16:23, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Hi again! Yes, that was the right photo. Can I adopt you as my personal sysop? LOL Thanks so much! I just hate to have orphaned files out there. I enjoyed reading your user page, too. We do have a lot in common! :) It's rare to run into women who were around at the beginning of the early days of home computing. We're always really cool people, I've found! Do you ever miss that modem dialing sound? :) My girls and I have loved homeschooling (we get a super curriculum from K12. Very advanced and lots of cross-cultural references, which I like). This fall my two oldest girls will be going to a Montessori school. Wow, will that ever be a change (for me & them!). We thought we'd give it a try as it may be even more accommodating to giftedness than what we've had. Check back in October and see how I'm surviving! ;) Estreya 15:35, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Suggestion on Signpost archieves
Hi, I'm trying to check a quote by Jimbo I just paraphrased (End of Talk:List of fictional universes, and in parsing the archives wished you all thought to do this: Use the Template:succession to allow scanning archive to archive (See bottom monarchy's, say Hugh Capet for example, or The_Honor_of_the_Queen to show how flexible this little template can be!) so when someone is running down something they saw, they can pop from version to version with next to no fuss.

If you find merit in the idea, I'll be glad to lend a hand retrofiting the older stuff. Just drop me a note. I need something to keep me off the streets when Europe goes to sleep, the system runs fast, and I'm too burned out to cognate on proper sentence formation! Back to looking for that interview link! Best wishes // Fra nkB 19:52, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Viewpoint on wikipedia
Hi. I've just finished reading your userpage and your respective opinion on the encyclopedia. I regard your summary as very on point and I paticularly appreciated the elaboration you went into with the explanation. Overall, I think it summed up the current aspects of the encyclopedia and where and what should be done with it exceptionally well.

I feel like the encyclopedia has a great deal of potential and hasn't fullfilled it, yet. I disagree with some of the current organisations of the project but agree with its overall purpose and goals, so I've dedicated quite a bit of time. I think Wikipedia needs more good illustrations of elaborated and proffessional topics, more work in minor areas, and I absolutely refute any suggestion that this encyclopedia cannot become a truly great source of knowledge respected by every intelligent commmunity alike at a later time. -ZeroTalk 22:34, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Created account, cannot get email confirmation. New user
Couldn't find a help contact specific to account creation problems. Found the list of administrators, searched for 'mail' and got your page. Please direct my problem to an appropriate administrator, unless you have a ready answer. The Confirm E-mail page behaves normally and tells me email confirmation was sent, but I do not receive any, and my preferences page shows I am not yet authenticated. Cannot email a user, so here I am. I have tried multiple times for two days. I am sure I have entered my email address correctly. Tried deleting it, logging out, and re-entering it. I even copy-pasted it from my preferences page into a new Microsoft email message and sent it. I received that. Not experiencing other problems, and I have been getting other email. Not sure how widely distributed my email address would be if I listed it here, but I will check 'Watch this page' and wait a couple days. Thanks much. --anatin 15:43, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for fixing those typos. Embarassing! Mark Sedgwick 15:58, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Dear Catherine
Dear Catherine, please allow me to apologize for the very belated reply. Just as I was telling some of my friends, I'm a terrible replier these days; my work, but mostly, our activity at the Comanche Nation Center is really taking all my time. Just today, I drove all the way to Lawton for one of the most beautiful Pow-wows I have ever attended; I even took some pics just upload them to WP!

Anyway, I simply wanted to thank you wholeheartedly for the beautiful and kind words you had the other day regarding me and my humble contribs. Coming from one the greatest Wikipedians I can think of and a truly wonderful person, it really enlihtened my day. Even more: have you ever felt like butterflies flying inside your stomach, and a knot in your throat, with the feeling your eyes suddenly become moist? Reading your beautiful words gave me all that... and yes, I am very emotional, I know - but it's not everyday someone I look up to tells me what you did. So, just simply thank you, Catherine. With people like you around, WP will surely live for a long, long time, I hold no doubts about it.

BTW, your work with Duran Duran is simply amazing. I have loved the band since my teens, but I had never, ever read such a beautiful, neutral and objective article about it. Yet one more reason to thank you, and to invite you to drop by my Talk page any time you want. A great, big hug,  Phædriel ♥  tell me   - 01:42, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Signpost
Hi Catherine, just noticed that you compiled the "In the news" section on Signpost. For next week, you may want to include this story. I'm not sure if you contribute to the section on a regular basis; if not, could you please fwd the message to the right contact with a note to me so that i'll know who to contact the next time? TIA, --Gurubrahma 03:47, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

why you are here
I stumbled upon your page from another user's and read your more or less preface and apologia to wikipedia under heading "Why am I here?", and simply put: Well said! Both poetic, and I feel, very apt. I am also an hopelessly addicted editor, though I mostly work at Vicipaedia. I tell the same thing to my students (I teach middle school latin) all the time, check wikipedia, then check every other source that the article suggests for further reading. By the end of every semester, my students are coming up to me telling me about random articles they have researched and I notice them using wikipedia for research in their other classes. I digress...my main point, again, is: well said!.--Josh Rocchio 21:33, 20 June 2006 (UTC)...or perhaps a better place to find me: Ioshustalk
 * Aha, as I skimmed your talk page, I realized I am not the first to laud your essay...there must be a reason for that ;] --+2 minutes-Ioshustalk

waffles
Hmmmmm ... why did I start the entry on waffles, anyway? Must have been hungry that morning.

Man, it was so easy creating new articles back then: open a random item to find a red link or two or 10, and get going. Those were the days, eh? - DavidWBrooks 11:49, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Proposal on Notability
Because you're a member of the Association of Inclusionist Wikipedians, I'm notifying you that the inclusionist proposa Non-notabilityl is in progress to define the role of notability in articles. Please help us make this successful! Also note the proposal Importance is a deletionist proposla that seeks to officially introduce notabiltiy for the first time. Make sure this is defeated! --Ephilei 22:57, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your writeup for the Signpost.
I really appreciate it. I'd like to point out more mention of Wikipedia though; I hope it's not old. This is a paper, written by a University of Hong Kong student on Wikipedia a short time ago and is being presented at FM10; It was brought to my attention yesterday. I was expecting it to be included in the Signpost, but it seems to have slipped by. I don't know the policy, if any, the signpost has on editing after "presstime", but you might want to add it to the current issue or include it in the next, assuming it hasn't been previously mentioned. Thanks, Avillia  (Avillia me!) 23:44, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Signpost and Global Politician
Thanks for the kind words Catherine :-) I quite enjoy writing the responses, almost as much as writing articles!

With regards to "citing Wikipedia will get you an F", it looks like we already do now as the cite this page says:
 * IMPORTANT NOTE: Most educators and professionals do not consider it appropriate to use tertiary sources such as encyclopedias as a sole source for any information. Wikipedia articles should be used for background information, and as a starting point for further research.


 * As with any community-built reference, there is a possibility for error in Wikipedia's content — please check your facts against multiple sources and read our disclaimers for more information.

I'm fine with it appearing in the next Signpost, it would be really cool :-) Maybe an op-ed (our first one)?. - Ta bu shi da yu 01:11, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Once again...
Once again, I'd appreciate you're help. I frequently have to revert vandalism on a couple pages, and I would like to know if and how I can make them vandal proof.
 * These are the pages:
 * Ricky Ullman - Constantly people are adding that he is either gay or bisexual, when he is neither
 * J.P. Manoux - Same problem as above, yet not vandalized near as much as Ricky's
 * Johnny Depp - Same problem as above, although only a couple times in the last few days.

I'd appreciate any help, thanks a lot (yet again). Jay 00:55, 17 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for all the info, and I'm glad you've added them to you're list. As for letting you know, it's no problem. I'm big fans of all three actors, and I want to make sure they're pages aren't plagued with false information, especially something as controversal and 'labeling' as their sexual orientations.
 * I will check out those pages, and do my best to keep the pages 'clean' of all false information. Thanks again for all you're help. Jay 04:34, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Your edit statistics
Hi Catherine. Here's your general statistics:

Username	       CatherineMunro Total edits	       11069 Distinct pages edited	6759 Average edits/page	1.638 First edit	       20:18, February 12, 2003 (main)        7547 Talk          509 User          286 User talk     399 Image         205 Image talk    1 MediaWiki     57 MediaWiki talk 20 Template      39 Template talk 25 Help          5 Category      343 Category talk 3 Wikipedia     1420 Wikipedia talk 204 Portal        5 Portal talk   1

And detailed ones for your last 5000 edits:


 * Time range: 422 approximate day(s) of edits on this page
 * Most recent edit on: 22hr (UTC) -- 21, Jul, 2006 || Oldest edit on: 21hr (UTC) -- 25, April, 2005
 * Overall edit summary use (last 1000 edits): Major edits: 78.05% Minor edits: 84.48%
 * Average edits per day: 6.93 (for last 500 edit(s))
 * Article edit summary use (last 611 edits): Major article edits: 89.31% Minor article edits: 90.57%
 * Analysis of edits (out of all 5000 edits shown on this page and last 37 image uploads):
 * Notable article edits (creation/expansion/major rewrites/sourcing): 1.4% (70)
 * Significant article edits (copyedits/small rewrites/content/reference additions): 7.1% (355)
 * Superficial article edits (grammar/spelling/wikify/links/tagging): 46.16% (2308)
 * Superficial article edits marked as minor: 63.13%
 * Unique image uploads (non-deleted/updates): 30 (checks last 5000)
 * Breakdown of all edits:
 * Unique pages edited: 3077 | Average edits per page: 1.62 | Edits on top: 9.2%
 * Edits marked as major (non-minor/reverts): 39.5% (1975 edit(s))
 * Edits marked as minor (non-reverts): 32.1% (1605 edit(s))
 * Marked reverts (reversions/text removal): 8.2% (410 edit(s))
 * Unmarked edits: 13.72% (686 edit(s))
 * Edits by Wikipedia namespace:
 * Article: 64.68% (3234) | Article talk: 5.44% (272)
 * User: 2.94% (147) | User talk: 4.62% (231)
 * Wikipedia: 16.3% (815) | Wikipedia talk: 2.18% (109)
 * Image: 1.08% (54)
 * Template: 0.5% (25)
 * Category: 0.32% (16)
 * Portal: 0.08% (4)
 * Help: 0.1% (5)
 * MediaWiki: 1.1% (55)
 * Other talk pages: 0.66% (33)

— Mets 501 (talk) 22:08, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

RE: Johnny Lee Clary - Please help
Hey there, my name is Nick, my username is Potters house and I have encountered a problem with trying to provide any information about Johnny Lee Clary. I have posted this post off to other staff members also. I am not sure if this is the best route to resolve this, but can think of no other way.

The article Johnny Lee Clary has been deleted. I have known Johnny through telephone conversations and email for a short time now (about 3-4 months). He recently came and shared his life story in for our church group for the first time just two weeks ago. Before I met Johnny I became interested in his story i.e. his conversion from the head of the KKK in the US, to being a Christian Minister who now teaches against race hate groups. I found the article Johnny Lee Clary as it still is today, deleted, except for some small talk. If you read the talk you see what I have said at the time (notice I have gotten no reply, probable my fault as I don’t know heaps about WIKI policy). From my understanding Johnny Lee Clary was posting as The KingOfDixie and looks like he tried to change a few things on Wiki concerning the KKK. While this is a controversial subject, Johnny being the former leader of the KKK would probably know a thing or two and be able to contibute, but that’s another story. He eventually made an article about himself i.e. Johnny Lee Clary. Johnny being quite new to Wiki and ignorant of rules of conduct found himself at odds with some admins and had his site deleted.

Whilst observing Johnny over the last 3-4 months I have noticed that he is very outspoken against race hate groups such as the Neo Nazis, Skinheads, KKK etc. This, more often than not, lands Johnny in the hot seat. He has experienced persecution from racist groups for his departure from the KKK and voiced opinions against these racist organizations on his webpage, www.xkkk.org. Johnny has also received multiple death threats.

Because of his bold stance against these racist groups Johnny has become accustomed to hatred directed at him by those same groups. Johnny concluded that perhaps the guy who deleted the page Johnny Lee Clary was a white supremist. I am hoping to clear this up. Before he told me this, I started to create J L Clary, after hearing nothing from posting in user talk on Johnny Lee Clary's article. I wasn't 10 minutes into the J L Clary article when it was issued a deletion notice, and then before I had time to reply (about 5 minutes) it was deleted! I was amazed. I told this to Johnny and he said the main reason he was told that he couldn't have an article was because he was not prominent enough.

Johnny has a very famous testimony and has been on multiple TV shows like Oprah, Donahue, Jerry Springer, etc, and even recently when he preached in our town he made front page news, a double spread on his life, and the local ABC interviewed him live, which is not bad for our town (LISMORE NSW Australia) See http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=John_Kerry&dir=prev&offset=20050327125109&limit=500&action=history.

When David Wilkerson came to our town hardly anyone knew or cared, yet David Wilkerson is allowed an article (and rightfully so), but more people know of Johnny. As to whether he is famous or not, just Google search him and see all the TV interviews and radio interviews he does. He hangs with some of the most prominent Christian leaders in Australia. Besides this, just being the former KKK leader should be enough for an article (he doesn't even get a mention in the KKK one, and would be deleted). He was also a Pro Wrestler. So he is prominent in Christian circles, he is prominent amongst race hate groups, and he is also prominent in the WWE wrestling.

Johnny asked me to test the waters for him to see if he was being persecuted by someone from a race hate group. So I created some sites, John Clary Wade Watts and Operation Colorblind - the name of Johnny's Ministry. These have been fine until yesterday. I cannot understand why these sites are just issued a deletion notice? Just because they mention JLC? I was hoping to discuss these things but they are just deleted. The one on Wade Watts is about a black gospel preacher who was one of the leaders in the civil rights movement in the US and was good friends with Martin Luther King. He took Johnny Clary under his wing and even ordained Johnny as a minister (to this day Johnny is the only white man ordained in the All Black Baptist Church). But his article is up for deletion because I mentioned Clary and had a link.

That is why I am writing to you to see if you can help. It seems to me that the person(s) deleting all articles which even mention Johnny Lee Clary has an agenda. I thought that wikipedia admins had to keep a neutral stance on every article. It seems like this guy has a vendetta against JLC. Why delete the Wade Watts article. That is guilt by association and could be proof that all deletions are because of racial discrimination! I hope this is not the case and would think that it is politically motivated, as Johnny is a strong supporter of George Bush and Antaeus Feldspar of Kerry.

See:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=John_Kerry&dir=prev&offset=20050327125109&limit=500&action=history This shows how Antaeus Feldspar supports Kerry, which is fine, but Johnny is a strong supporter of Bush.

My hope is that Johnny will be able to have an article like any other famous person, minister, former KKK leader, or pro wrestler, and that Johnny and anyone connected with him and his ministry will in future have certain rules set in place that do not allow the wholesale deletion of the articles associated with him, but that they will be at least discussed.

I thank you for reading this long winded post. I have only been using WIKI for about a year myself so I need your help, I don't really know what else to do. I hope you can help. I personally think that Johnny's story is one that is beneficial to the cause of reconciliation between races and to the3 unity of society as a whole. It would be a shame if WIKI became known for having covert racists. Of course I hope that this is a misunderstanding and that all will be cleared up soon.

Here are some links that might help.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wade_Watts

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheKingOfDixie

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Colorblind

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Threeafterthree

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Potters_house

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_policy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Antaeus_Feldspar

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=John_Kerry&dir=prev&offset=20050327125109&limit=500&action=history This shows how Antaeus Feldspar supports Kerry, which is fine, but Johnny is a strong supporter of Bush. Perhaps the bias is political and not racial?

The link for page: John Clary has already been deleted!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Alabamaboy

Please notice that his link was taken from the KKK site the same day:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ku_Klux_Klan&diff=prev&oldid=65690238

then

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ku_Klux_Klan&diff=next&oldid=65690238

Also note his contributions: Featured articles: ·	African American literature -- My first featured article. Thanks to everyone who gave feedback. While I didn't start the article, I obsessed on it for an entire month and wrote most of the copy. ·	Ku Klux Klan -- I began work on this article after it became a featured article. Since then I've mediated several editorial disputes on the article (including one of which kept the article from being delisted as a FA) and made a large number of edits. Potters house 00:11, 27 July 2006 (UTC) Nick.


 * Thanks for the advice Potters house 04:12, 27 July 2006 (UTC) Nick.

question about how to have admin delete duplicate file
You are listed as an admin and may know how this is handled. The Jessie Mae Hemphill image I uploaded in the past was intended to be between 72 dpi and 92 dpi. I got confused and saw my scan said 92 kb and uploaded it but it's causing problems for the photographer, who intended only a smaller file be allowed. If Wikipedia needs a larger one, they should obtain one from someone else, but to use this particular person's photo it should be the smaller resolution. My mistake since I helped do the scan for her. Can someone delete the extra copies? I also messed up and tried to see how the del/rev buttons work but accidentally reverted to an old one once while checking that out. An 80 kb item is up right now but the backup files need deleting to protect the photographer. Or all copies of the photo should be deleted if this can't be done because she does not want a large copy availalbe since people are downloading it and possibly reposting it without a credit. She doesn't want larger res copies out there without people contacting her for one directly.

Do you know how to delete the larger copy in the photo info page? When you go to the photo page, it has a place to delete the larger one but only admins may do this. This is a matter of adhering to what was agreed to by the photographer which was not a large version. It starts to show up places like the news and so forth. Basically the third from the top in the list of revisions at the bottom of the info page is the right one and the bottom (large) one is the wrong one; the top two are extraneous. The one we have and use should be the 80 dpi file and no other. Let me know what to do. I don't want this sitting out this way any longer, exposing the photographer to problems. We can get a different, larger image by some other photographer if we need a large one but if we want to use this one we need to delete the older versions that are large. Bebop 21:46, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

You rock! Thanks, admin! Bebop 21:57, 29 July 2006 (UTC)