User talk:Catiekirk

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Hello, Catiekirk, and welcome to Wikipedia! My name is Shalor and I work with the Wiki Education Foundation; I help support students who are editing as part of a class assignment.

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Notes 2
Hi! I have a few more notes:


 * This needs more sourcing. I added some, but I'm not 100% firm with them. They should generally be usable, but some of them aren't the strongest. Also, there needs to be more information about this essay to show where it was published and when - keep in mind that not all sourcing on the Internet is reliable and it's entirely possible that this was something that was self-published and as such, hasn't undergone the type of editorial oversight and verification that reliable sources tend to undergo.


 * The writing here is generally good - just be very careful about editorializing. For example, you describe her as an up and coming writer, however that is something that could be seen as a personal opinion since a person's viewpoint on that would differ depending on the person. If you have a source that states this, then it should be attributed. Also, there is a lot of content in the page that is unsourced - all claims, especially when relating to a living person, must be backed up with a reliable source. This brochure goes over this in a bit more detail.
 * I especially want to emphasize that any coverage as far as reception and reviews go must be backed up as well, otherwise it can be seen as a personal interpretation as well. Keep in mind that Wikipedia is only concerned with reviews in outlets such as newspapers, journals, and other reliable sources. Goodreads or Amazon ratings don't count towards notability.

As far as the page getting reverted back to a redirect, I think that this was because my colleague was concerned that the page didn't have enough sourcing to establish notability and had so many unsourced claims, which can pose a huge issue on Wikipedia. The page is fairly lengthy, but there is an overview of this at the biography of living persons guidelines page - the brochure covers this to a degree. ReaderofthePack (formerly Tokyogirl79)  (｡◕‿◕｡)  15:10, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Oops - sorry, the ReaderofthePack is myself - I forgot to log into my work account. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:13, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
 * The single biggest issue with the edits on the Olivia Gatwood page are that writing from personal knowledge of a subject is prohibited here. Instead, find sources, and relate what those sources say. Best sources have author names, dates, and identifiable publishers (which check facts, have something to lose if content is fake news). Generally frowned upon content includes people writing about and publishing about themselves (e.g., personal website content). Please see WP:VERIFY and WP:ORIGINAL RESEARCH for more information. 2601:246:C700:19D:A893:D336:57FE:E91C (talk) 22:24, 8 January 2020 (UTC)