User talk:CatraDhtem

Single covers
Hi, I reverted your removal of some single covers. Even if they are taken from the site All Things Yankovic (haven't checked, doesn't matter), they don't hold the copyright to the album covers. Garion96 (talk) 22:46, 26 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Gasp, Wikipedia doesn't care if something is stolen off another web site without permission despite confirmation from the webmaster. I'll try to contain my surprise. CatraDhtem 22:53, 26 May 2007 (UTC)


 * You can't steal something which is not owned by the website. The copyright of the covers is owned by Weird Al and his record label. Wikipedia and your site both use the images under fair use. Mind you, I have checked on that site and haven't found the mentioned single covers there. Garion96 (talk) 23:20, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

So there's nothing to be said of the actual files that are being stolen? Those most certainly are my site's property, unless your user (the same user in each instance I might add) just happened to break into my house, scanned my picture sleeves, edited my scans the same way I did back in 1998, and then saved them at the same low resolution with the same dimensions as I did. Considering you personally had recently flagged someone for copying recaps of "One Tree Hill" episodes from another site, I must respectfully say there's a bit of a double standard here.

And since you were so kind to at least look into my allegations by checking out my site, please find the following links for easy access to the images: Eat It, Jurassic Park, Bedrock Anthem CatraDhtem 23:40, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the links, yes they are indeed the same. The original editor should actually have added a link to where he got the images from. But that still doesn't mean they are stolen. The exact files are copied, but since you don't own the copyright of the images... If he would have copied text from your site, or a photo which you took (and on which you would hold the copyright) I would have deleted it immediately. Like the list of Tree Hill episodes. Legally it's not a copyright violation, ethically...perhaps but I am not going to delete an image over that. If you want I can seek more input though. Garion96 (talk) 00:31, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for the response. It seems though as if by this point any further talk on what is or isn't stealing or a violation is going to boil down to semantics, so really the only question I'm left with now is what can be done? Can a citation be added to those images, or should I go ahead and re-upload those same images to Wikipedia myself to ensure the proper credit?

I hope you understand my frustration in this situation. This isn't the first time something on a Weird Al-related page on Wikipedia bore an uncomfortable resemblance to something only noted on my site. In the cases of facts or release dates I usually let it slide. After all, facts are out there, and one can't really own a piece of information, and to some folks' credit they have been kind enough to cite my site as the source in some of those instances. But when it comes to an image, I have to cry foul because a great deal of work does go into tracking down an out-of-print or, in two of those cases, promotional item to then scan and present. I want people to be able to use my site as a resource, but I also need to be able to protect it. It does matter; it matters very much. CatraDhtem 01:09, 27 May 2007 (UTC)


 * If you see someone copied text or (under your copyright) images from your website, message me. Everything under your copyright you can protect. Wikipedia does not accept copyright violations. But this, as frustrating as it must be for you, wasn't really one. I did added links to your site on the individual image pages. See Image:Eatit.jpg Image:Jurassic.jpg and Image:Bedrock Anthem.jpg. Garion96 (talk) 01:54, 27 May 2007 (UTC)