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Your newest pupil
I would like to make a private page for our "classes" at User:ILikePikachu/class. OK? -ILikePikachu v|d 01:23, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, that's fine :) but remember that changes on there won't have a messages bar, so you'll have to add it to your watchlist if you haven't already.
 * How would you like to get started? Do you have any questions to begin with?  Cat tleG  irl   talk 10:56, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
 * No, I don't. I couldn't pick what I wanted for breakfast this morning. I went back & forth between corn flakes or bagels. How about something that's like a first lesson, like on the first day of school. -ILikePikachu v|d 15:07, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
 * That's alright :) I like your breakfast analogy there!
 * I can't tell you too much until you edit the mainspace- the articles. Perhaps you can pick a subject you're interested in- like a tv show, or a band- or maybe something completely different, and edit those pages. There's templates on a lot of pages describing what changes need to be made, like references in an article, or a section of an article- you can start by doing that if you don't want to edit the actual text.
 * Or, if you're into more behind-the-scenes things, you might look at backlogs, or clearing upvandalism. There's plenty to do- I can offer you tips then.
 * One of the things you can look at in the meantime however is edit summaries- found in the box right under the edit window. It's a good idea to fill in an edit summary just before you save a page, really briefly outlining the changes you just made so people can see really easily if they're browsing through page histories. For instance, if you look at the history for your talk page, my edit summary for this edit is simply "reply".
 * By the way, I really like that you copy and paste your reply over here- it makes the conversations readable, which is always good. So thanks :)
 * And sorry it's been a couple of days- I've been away on and off over here, but I should be online much more reguarly from now on. Cheers-  Cat tleG  irl   talk 09:58, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, let's not clutter this page. Let's go to the page that I made for the "tutoring". OK? I have it in my watch list. -ILikePikachu v|d 23:58, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Unprotection request, please.
Can you unprotect Courtney Chetwynde? It has been protected for 1 month. Thank you. --Blake3522 03:30, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

...
Hi,

my name is Nathalie Rees and I'm from the UK. I am doing a Masters in Library and Information Management and I'm currently writing my dissertation about Wikipedia. I am doing a case study on the Panic! at the Disco page, seeing how it gets edited and what changes occur. I would be incredibly grateful if you would let me do an email interview with you, as I would like to talk to people who contribute to the page. I am also interested in your clean-up project for the page.

The email interview won't be for another couple of weeks but I wanted to check if I had people to interview!!

It would be great to hear from you soon. My email address is [email removed]

Thanks, Nathalie
 * Yes, replied on users email.  Cat tleG  irl   talk 08:12, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Cattle anatomy
I'm having an ongoing disagreement with my boss: do bulls/steers have udders? I'm convinced that they don't (what on earth would they use them for??) but if I'm right why does Otis the cartoon bull have an udder? We need an objective expert opinion to sort this out - please help! Shanti07
 * Haha, hi, Shanti07.
 * In answer to your question (which is probably one of the best I've been asked on Wikipedia) no, neither bulls nor steers have udders, that's only cows.
 * So you are right, and I have no idea why Otis has an udder! You'd think they'd research.
 * I hope that helped you-  Cat tleG  irl   talk 08:12, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Male mammals I am familiar with have breasts (including humans). They are not just vestigial organs: when there is a certain kind of pituitary tumor, or when hormones are injected, bulls produce milk . So even though they might be the very epitome and watchwords of uselessness, a careful search should show that there are indeed 'tits on a bull,' if not udders. Edison 16:00, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

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Deletion of Article name Sydney Consulting Corporation
Ok. So you are an Administrator. Why don't you go and look at the entry in the encyclopedia titled 'Management Consulting'. How is it precisely that a company like Accenture or Cap Gemini can get an article up (which is nothing more than a fact list about their company) so that their name can be mentioned under the entry (management consulting) but when I do it (with more meaning they they even attempted in the context of the article), the article is deleted. I considered the distinction I raised under types of consulting firm to be a real value add given the purile twaddle that was there before I arrived. I have introduced a really interesting, practical and important distinction to the types offered in the existing article. Just explain to me how they can be named and have supporting article and Sydney Consulting cannot. My point is that these larger firms all fit into the slot of 'report writers'. Where will you let someone tell the story about implementation and risk management? Is nobody worthy of a mention in that category. If you delete my reference to Sydney Consulting you should explain why the references to other firms are left to stand. Give it a try. I am exited to hear your reasoning cow girl.
 * Hi,
 * I've looked at the pages you've said. The reasons Accenture and Cap Gemini have an article is because they're one of the largest companies of their type in the world, as stated and referenced on their article page.
 * I did not delete the article because of the entries to the Management Consulting article, which may have been very valid, as you say. I deleted it because of the guidelines we have in place for these articles.
 * You see, whilst the company may meet the notability guidelines, the article didn't assert the notability of the subject. I have nothing against you or your company, and be assured that I am in no way biased.
 * If you can supply some external third party links to establish notability that conforms with these guidelines, then by all means the page can stay on Wikipedia.
 * I really hope that helped you. If you have more questions please feel to ask. Cheers-  Cat tleG  irl   talk 10:16, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

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Attack pages
Just a quick note, when deleting attack pages such as ShanE159, sometimes the default "content was 'blah blah blah'" summary is a slight WP:BLP problem. Doesn't seem like a big deal in this case, just something I happened to notice when deleting it a second time (somebody's persistent). In any case, nice to run into you, and keep up the good work. ;) – Luna Santin  (talk) 08:23, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi, Luna, and thanks for letting me know, I didn't realise I'd left the default summary there.
 * Thanks, and you too! Cheers-  Cat tleG  irl   talk 08:26, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Adoption
How does adoption work? Im a little new with wiki...stuff.

Philippe Auguste 19:54, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Hey, how are you?
 * With adoption, basically the 'adopter' would just help you with editing and things, and really help you learn the ropes on Wikipedia. You can ask questions, and work on things you're interested in... Really, it depends on what you want to do, and your adopter would help you with that.
 * Are you interested in adoption? I'd be happy to help you out, or if you need anything, please feel free to ask. Cheers-  Cat tleG  irl   talk 07:42, 24 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Yes, Iam interested in adoption, CattleGirl. But how do you start it? Thanks for your speedy reply. :)Philippe Auguste 19:20, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Hello! You're welcome- as for starting adoption- that's good, right there! :) I'll add the adoption templates to both our user pages, and then just feel free to ask any questions you may have, or help when you need it. Cheers-  Cat tleG  irl   talk 03:53, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Ted Kennedy
Not vandalization, just the truth.

Featured article nomination: Twinrova
Can you nominate this page Twinrova for a featured article? --Blake3522 07:18, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi, Blake3522, how are you?
 * I'd nominate the list (I can't nominate just that section) however I don't believe it yet meets the featured list criteria just yet. Perhaps you can edit the article so that the tags at the top of the page are gone- such as trimming, and adding some sources- and then it can pass.
 * Any questions, you know where to find me :). Cheers-  Cat tleG  irl   talk 08:41, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Spoofer
Nice; welcome to the club. :) Acalamari 01:50, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Haha, I'm rather flattered :D.  Cat tleG  irl   talk 08:39, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Good, isn't it? :) I've collected a few myself. Nice to know you have fans. Acalamari 16:59, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Re:adoption/holmes.sherlock
OK, I accept your kind offer to adopt me. OK, I let you adopt me, now, what can we do to start the adoption? Please reply on my talk page, thanks, Holmes.sherlock 14:56, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Offer to help out
I noticed your offer to a certain editor. Another editor asked me to look into the former editor, but when I noticed your offer, I thought it would be best to defer to you since a single point of contact would be better than two. However, please do feel free to contact me should you need help. I think this might be a pretty big project. -- Gogo Dodo 04:14, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
 * He seems rather fed up at the moment as well. : / I'm thinking he doesn't understand English too well... -WarthogDemon 06:38, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Hello again... Just an FYI, I cleaned up another small mess here and reverted an incomplete bot approval request. The false barnstar that I removed a few days ago is back and the bot request had a template added. -- Gogo Dodo 17:40, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
 * He seems to have given up, sadly. : / -WarthogDemon 22:58, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know, Godo Dodo. As WarthogDemon said, he seems to have left...we'll have to wait and see if he comes back, I suppose.  Cat tleG  irl   talk 10:56, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

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Holmes.Sherlock
Can you adopt, if yes, put the adoption template on your userpage and my userpage, thanks, and you are so kind, are you a girl?Holmes.sherlock 09:58, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Can't you afford so many adoptee? Holmes.sherlock 04:08, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Do you mean can? I do have a lot of adoptees, but many are not active, or only ask a question once in a while, so I have plenty of time on my hands.
 * Have you thought more about what you'd like to work on on Wikipedia? There's plenty to do- you could work on building or improving articles that you are interested in, and join Wikiprojects of topics that you are also interested in. Or, maybe you'd like to do some more behind-the-scenes work, like have a look at deletion debates or backlogs. It's up to you :)  Cat tleG  irl   talk 07:47, 24 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your kind reply, can you train me to be an admin, tell me the basic skills to be one, my wish is to be an admin and to help wikipedia and be aa nice editor. Please train me to be one, please!  Well, if not, I will choice another to be trianed.  Anyway, I don't really understand why editors can 'adopt users, and why users need adoption,  no need to reply on your talk page, just reply on 'my' talk page, thanks, I may give you a barnstar later, because you are so nice and kind to me, thanks!  Cheers, Holmes.sherlock 13:23, 24 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Hello again :)
 * Definitely, I can show you the ins and outs of becoming an admin, but before you can have a hope of passing an RFA, you really need to know the ins and outs of editing. I suggest for a maximum chance of passing an RFA, you choose something to work on, and then do it. For instance, take me as an example. Whereas I am an administrator, this means I edit as per usual, however I have a few more tools to do the job- if you have a look at my contributions, you'll see that they're almost identical as they used to be, however now I have logs as well with tasks that I need administrator tools to do the job quicker. Adminship really isn't a big deal, but you do need trust within the community that you will use the tools in the best way possible- and the only way to gain such trust is to do a lot of work in the community.
 * If you're so interested in being an administrator, I suggest you familiarise yourself with the behind-the-scenes things on the wiki first. For instance, administrators close deletion debates at WP:AFD- so it's a good idea to read up on the deletion policy, and state your opinion on the discussions over there, as this shows that you're familiar with our deletion policies.
 * Another good thing you can do is, as administrators can also block users, is to become involved in the vandalism side of things. Because Wikipedia is so popular, many come along and add anything, and some of this, especially the nasty things added, needs to be reverted. If a user has all four levels of warnings (you can read more about warnings at WP:VANDALISM), then they are eligible to be put up on WP:AIV for an administrator to review the contributions and decide whether they warrant a block.
 * However, at the moment the most important thing to do is to get involved in the encyclopedia. You can do all of the things I've mentioned above, but remember that Wikipedia is first and foremost an encyclopedia, and everyone's main concern is to make sure it stays as reliable as possible, and expand it as much as possible. There's some Requests for Adminships that have not passed because the community is concerned about their lack of activity in the article mainspace.
 * As for adoption, I think it's a really good idea, as it means that a more experienced editor can help you along, and help you learn the ropes, as I am doing. So you have someone to respond to your questions.
 * I hope that helped, it was quite a long reply! As always, if you need any help, you know where to ask-  Cat tleG  irl   talk 03:50, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Rawiri Hinder
Why was Rawiri Hinder "Speedy Deleted" I was editing the page so the article could meet the criterion? —Preceding unsigned comment added by R hinder (talk • contribs) 10:30, August 24, 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi,
 * I've had a look at the page mentioned, and the basis on which it was deleted was that it does not yet assert notability. Perhaps if you could provide me with some notable third party sources about this musician, I could review the request again?  Cat tleG  irl   talk 03:34, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Management Consulting deletion
Dear cow girl, The overriding logic in your response was simply "size matters". Accenture and Cap Gemini are large so they have no problems getting third parties to write a lot of twaddle about what they do. A lot of this stuff is paid for directly or indirectly.

Do you know how the spin industry works? They buy academics, journalists and media and their marketing arms generate spin ad nauseum. Can I see the body of references that are relied upon by wikipedia to establish these gushing 'big guy' credentials for Accenture and Cap Gemini? Which articles exactly does the wikipedia rely upon to allow for example Accenture to enter the hallowed ground of 'notable'(for any other reason beyond size). Keep in mind the guidelines are specific about size NOT being and adequate reason per se. Where are the articles that assert a notable distinction relating to Accenture or Cap Gemini. Is all this notability about Accenture and Cap Gemini you assert simply anecdotal? Can you show that their inclusion is not simply because (a) they are large organisations and; (b) there are a LOT of articles relating to them? Please provide the references wikipedia relies upon to demonstrate their'notablility'. Surely the references relied upon are accessible to any editor of wikipedia? Remember, "encyplopedia content must be verifiable".

By the way, you are the first person I have heard describe themselves as 'objective' in about 25 years. If you have the time please explain what the word means. You must be quite young. Go and read "The Structure of Scientific Revolutions" by Thomas Kuhn. You need a dose of relativism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sydneyconsulting (talk • contribs) 06:30, August 25, 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi,
 * If you want to know why I deleted the page according to policy, please read WP:NOTABLE. I have, actually, googled the page name, with minimal ghits - not enough to establish notability at this time. However, if you could show me some more coverage of the company, then I could review your request again.
 * It isn't of my interest how Accenture and Cap Gemini have so many third party references- the fact that they do, and fit our notability guidelines are enough. It does not matter whether they are paid for or not.
 * The size of the company does not matter. The fact that the company has been covered by a third party indicates notability (but of course, that depends on the source), and generally, if the company is covered by multiple sources, then they probably would be larger. That's not of my concern, just the fact that they are covered, and fit into our notability policy.
 * The references of these companies are readily available, in the references section. And on terms of coverage, a google search shows plenty of it. The content in these articles are verifiable, but the other articles are not my concern.
 * If you can supply me with some more references, please do so and I will review your request again. Or, if you want you can always bring it to deletion review.
 * I said "be assured that I am in no way biased" and I stick by that. I have no doubt that you know what objective means, as do I, quite obviously by my choice of words. I have nothing to do with your company, I have nothing for or against the other companies you mentioned. I have never heard of them before now. And as for a dose of relativism, I'm not the one comparing yours to the other companies. In this case, it is actually me who is reviewing just your company- not the other ones. I honestly have no interests in the other company, the issue here is Sydney Consulting. Whether it is bigger or smaller than the other companies, it doesn't matter, it still may or may not fit into our notability criteria- which in this case, it doesn't, but as I said before, you can try deletion review.
 * I'm only here to help, and I ask that your next reply be more civil than the previous one. Thankyou,  Cat tleG  irl   talk 09:41, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Questions From Phil
CattleGirl, how do you upload pictures. Like say I had a real good one from Google Images and I waanted to make it available for wikipedia and, ahem, my gallery? what would I do? Also how can I get WikiAdvertisments? .P.S. Thanks for adpoting me! I can really use the help. :) Philippe Auguste 18:43, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Hello again :)
 * Uploading pictures is pretty easy once you know how. Really, everything in a nutshell is at Images. If you've found a good photo on google images, that's great, but before you upload it make sure it has the correct licensing for Wikipedia, otherwise it would be deleted- see here, and there's some links in there that explain it more thoroughly that you may want to have a look at.
 * As for uploading images...
 * Uploading images explains it in detail. Basically once you're sure that the image you have has the correct licensing for the project, you're free to upload the file at Special:Upload.
 * Sorry for asking, but what are WikiAdvertisments? I've looked, and I can't seem to find them.
 * Goes to show, you find out something everyday- I'll go ask at the Help Desk. I hope that helped you- Cheers-  Cat tleG  irl   talk 01:22, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Yes wikiad templates is what I mean. Sory for the mistake in context. Thanks.--Philippe Auguste 02:44, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Cool :). You're welcome-  Cat tleG  irl   talk 08:35, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

NEEEEWWW QUESTION!! I'd like to be part of counter vandalism now but I dunno how? Also I am a WIKInew-comer welcomer now(Sp?), just if you cared to know.Philippe Auguste 04:23, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

And anywho, say someone vandalizes my page by redirecting every thing or erases a bunch of stuff thats hard to get? I know the 3 step process like revert to last time page was in good condition.Philippe Auguste 20:03, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

OK RMS Titanic got COMPLETLY deleted. Now its my one of favorite articles and I think the who did it was User:Wildhartlivie. Please check RMS Titanic's history to make sure I did the right thing. Don't worry I was careful with my words that I wrote there. Thanks.Philippe Auguste 05:12, 31 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Oh, sorry it's been a few days since I was last online :S. You seem to have been doing very well!
 * As for joining the counter vandalism unit- there's some userboxes at the bottom of the page which add you to the category of members in the unit- or if you'd prefer no userboxes, the category is also there for you to add to your userpage.
 * And that's really cool that you're welcoming new users- a huge tick in my book :) That's really good, well done.
 * If someone vandalises your page like that, then you should be able to revert it, either by moving it back, or going through the history and saving the page before the person put the redirect in. Just make sure that the edit wasn't legitamate first.
 * I had a look at RMS Titanic, it's there- it seems that there's problems with blanking, from looking at the page history, in the edit summaries. I'm not quite sure what's happening there.
 * Hey, just a tip- when you edit, it's a good idea to fill in an edit summary, so users can quickly see what you're doing by just glancing at the page history. It's a bit more comprehensive than the automatic summaries. If you want, in your preferences page- on the top right- when you click on the editing tab, there's a box you can check which says "prompt me when entering a blank edit summary'- that way you'll have 100% accuracy, and users can see this when running checks like and . Just a tip-  Cat  tleG  irl   talk 11:22, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

User:holmes.sherlock
Hi, my talk page is getting more message and more, it is now 33 kilobytes long! Can I delet some of my messages? How can I know users in wikipedia? Or if I saw something they did wrong or they vandalize wikipedia, what can I do? I just warn them on their talk page, no, but I am not an administrator, so,what can I do to stop users vandalizing wikipedia, but not blocking them? As I am not an administrator. So, thanks for your long reply on my talk page, you are so kind to me, which barnstar should I give you for your kindness? Thanks a lot, Cheers, Holmes.sherlock 04:13, 26 August 2007 (UTC) Again, no need to reply on your talk page, just reply on mine, thanks
 * Hey,
 * Wow, thanks for the barnstar! I appreciate it :).
 * For your talkpage, what I do, which I'd recommend, is to archive your talk page. Pretty easily done- for instance, just copy and paste your current talk page to User talk:Holmes.sherlock/Archive 1 and save, and delete the messages you just copied and pasted over on your current talk page (Remember, it won't come up with a bar that says you have new messages when someone edits that page, you'd have to add it to your watchlist).
 * If you want to get to know users on Wikipedia, the best and probably only way to do that is to edit! You'll bump into plenty of people on the way.
 * Vandalism... you can easily help, definitely, and no, you're right, you don't have to be an administrator. What you do is when you see users vandalising a page, you revert their edits. This is done by saving the page on the version before they last edited. For instance, if you click on the history tab at the top of your talk page, you'll see a link in the form of a time and date next to the username of the user who made the edit. If you wanted to revert an edit, you'd click on the time and date link before that edit, and it will take you to a page with a pink bar at the top saying that it is a previous version on the page. Then click on "Edit this page", and save the page.
 * I know it sounds complicated, but you get quicker at it :).
 * Once you've reverted the edit, it's a good idea to warn the user in the hope that they won't do it again- and we have plenty of tailored warnings at WP:WARN. It's up to you to choose the one that fits the situation most, and once you've chosen, choose the level- they range from level 1 to level 4, or level 4a. The level 4s are the most severe, so you should start with a level 1 or 2, or you should give them a warning that's the next level up from the person who warned before you, if any.
 * If they've had a final warning (Level 4) and they vandalise AGAIN, then you can report them to WP:AIV, where an admin will look over their contributions and most likely block them.
 * Now that was a lot of text for a very simple thing! Sorry about that, but I hope I covered everything :)
 * Oh, and I might as well reply here as well, as then people can see both sides of the conversation if they look at my talk page, rather than just your reply- it makes it easier to read.
 * And once again, thanks for the barnstar! Cheers-  Cat tleG  irl   talk 08:51, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Barnstar from Holmes.Sherlock
I have already made up my mind of which barnstar I should give you!

Lawn Nation
I just wanted to get some advice from you about how I can make the Lawn Nation Wiki entry better so that it is not deleted.... should I remove all the products that are sold and just include what Lawn Nation does and has done? We really want to start getting the word out about how lawn nation is going to benefit the enviroment. Any advice would be very appreciated. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by LawnNation (talk • contribs) 09:29, August 26, 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi, how are you? I can definitely give you some advice.
 * The reason I deleted it was that it was mainly a directory- but you're pretty much spot on in your message to me that the page should have what Lawn Nation does and has done, and basically what it's about.
 * However, make sure that the page fits our notability guidelines, and you should also probably have a look at WP:COI. Whereas you are allowed to create the page and edit it, just make sure you're editing from a neutral point of view.
 * I hope that helped- if you have any other questions, feel free to ask. Cheers-  Cat tleG  irl   talk 09:47, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Holmes.Sherlock
A long reply again, CattleGirl! As for the barnstar, no thanks, you deserve 10 barnstars or more! I saw users talk page, and they also have a few achieves, but there is a picture in their achieves, like a mailbox, can I have it also? Also, what's your age, and do you have lots of time at home using wikipedia? It's my summer holiday now, so I always use the computer, but after it, I might be busy, ♥, are you quite busy in real life? Thanks, Holmes.sherlock 13:40, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Hello again :)
 * As for a picture in your archive- you can put templates such as ' at the top and bottom of the page, which looks like this. Or you could also mean ', however you need to put a link for your parameter, like:  . That looks like this.
 * I'd prefer not to say my age- online security and all! I'm quite busy, but before I start work on the computer, or music practise, I always go on Wikipedia for a bit. And as for whether I am busy in real life... always! :)
 * Hey I thought of a tip for you- when you edit, a good thing to do is to fill in an edit summary- that box at the bottom of the window just above the save page button. This means that others can see what changes you just made by the description you put in that box.
 * You can also go to 'My Preferences', at the top of the page, and click on the Editing tab, and check "Prompt me when entering a blank edit summary", so you never enter a black one.
 * Just a tip :). Talk to you soon,  Cat tleG  irl   talk 07:13, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Rawiri Hinder
Here are some links that may help.

Unfortunately [Onefineday] disband, so there is little left. Which is why I am creating this page and the [Onefineday] page. (Which I am also having copyright issues with) Hopefully this will be up soon.


 * / Rawiri Maia Hinder - Onefineday
 * / Rawiri Maia Hinder - Onefineday
 * / Rawiri Maia Hinder - Onefineday (Named Keyboarder as [Ra Maia Hinder]). —Preceding unsigned comment added by R hinder (talk • contribs) 09:22, August 27, 2007 (UTC)

Holmes.sherlock/bot
Hi, it's me, holmes.sherlock again! I want to request for a bot, what can I do, and what is a bot? See my userpage. Thanks and cheers, Holmes.sherlock 14:33, 27 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi, how are you?
 * I'll answer your question first...
 * Information on bots can be found at WP:BOT. It's an automatic process that you must write and then put it up for approval to use on Wikipedia.
 * Also, I've had some things to do at home, so I haven't been active for the past couple of days- so I only just noticed that you've stopped editing Wikipedia. That's a shame, but I'm sure you have your reasons. If you left because of the comments on your talk page, right at the bottom- I actually think it's a good idea to listen to these comments, and perhaps learn from them. Just keep in mind that these people are not being mean to you, they are just trying to help you, and their advice would advance you considerably in your editing skills. Just make sure you don't take it personally.
 * If you do decide to return, then please feel free to ask me anything again!
 * Good luck-  Cat tleG  irl   talk 10:54, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

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Red Angus Reminder
The Red Angus article still needs a lot of love, both with citations to back up the existing text as well as possibly some cited material about the differences between Black Angus and Red Angus. Just a reminder from a fellow "cownnoisseur". --Steelviper 21:47, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh wow, thanks for reminding me- you could probably tell, I'd completely forgotten. I'll be working on that in the near future- thanks!  Cat tleG  irl   talk 11:24, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

I don't leave.Holmes.sherlock 14:31, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

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Reverts
Hi! Id like to note the last reverts of user Francis Tyers here and here. It seems to be an edit war without any serious explanations. Please could you have a look at that reverts? Thanks in advance! Andranikpasha 21:35, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi, how're you going?
 * I've had a look- I think all that can be done under the circumstances has been done. At the moment, the article is protected, which is what I would have done- so that all arguments can be discussed on the talk page.
 * Cheers-  Cat tleG  irl   talk 09:40, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Request for a vandal block
Hi Cattle Girl,

We need to block user 217.91.43.41 again. They were blocked for two months in the past for repeated vandalism but are back to doing it again. They vandalized the page "dollar cost averaging" with some homophobic stuff.

Acad Ronin 12:48, 6 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Hello again :)
 * I've given them a final warning- if they vandalise again in the near future, they should be blocked. They've been reverted, as well.
 * For a quicker block if I'm not online you may want to list them on WP:AIV- someone will look into it almost as soon as it comes up.
 * Thanks for letting me know-  Cat tleG  irl   talk 09:18, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

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Adoption Request
Reading your user page, you seem like an intelligent person [blushes], and so I would like to request for adoption. RageSamurai21655 19:22, 7 September 2007 (UTC) PS: I've always had some sort of passion for music as well, but alas, I have yet to become a known talent...oh well. Just saying. EDIT: How the heck did this get into the RFA box? Moved it to a higher section to clear confusion. RageSamurai21655 19:23, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi, how are you?
 * Yes, I'm fine for adoption. How would you like to start? Do you have any questions at the moment?
 * That's really cool that you have a passion for music as well- I honestly couldn't live without it! What sort of things do you listen to?
 * Cheers-  Cat tleG  irl   talk 07:58, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I...have no idea. Let's start from the beginning, but omit the easy stuff.
 * Hair metal, hard rock, the like. Namely Disturbed, Godsmack, and Korn. You? RageSamurai21655 21:09, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi,
 * That's fine- is there any subjects you're interested in? Because the best thing you can do is to jump right in and start editing articles that interest you- for instance, it could be a music related article.
 * Other things that might interest you is the behind-the-scenes work we can do- for instance, WP:AFD, WP:AIV, WP:TFD. AFD and TFD are deletion debates, and AIV is where you report continuos vandals, and all of those pages can always do with another contributor.
 * Probably the best way this is going to work is if you edit, and I offer you hints as you go along- you'll learn more that way.
 * I'm into a lot of alternative stuff, myself... but I've recently gotten into metal, so AFI, Parkway Drive, MCR, Bullet For My Valentine... are all fantastic.  Cat tleG  irl   talk 03:53, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Subjects. Hmmm!
 * Well, I have always held an interest in Nintendo, Ed, Edd, 'n Eddy, and Billy & Mandy. Combating vandals would be great too, since I have something of a hatred for people who use the Internet to do stupid stuff.
 * And I can't stand bad grammar either. Copy-editing articles is fine with me too.
 * PS: Alternative is never something I've enjoyed since my favorite radio station started playing that stuff. I guess it's just not my thing. No offense. RageSamurai21655 18:09, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
 * EDIT: Forgot Naruto--probably one of the best anime shows ever to grace the TV. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 21655 (talk • contribs) 18:12, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, I've found nothing to edit. I think. You got any ideas?
 * Or have you seen any articles that seem like they were written by a fourth-grader and as such need my near-impeccable grammar?
 * Okay, sorry, too much bragging.
 * RageSamurai21655 16:50, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
 * :D
 * Well, there's plenty of articles that need a lot of work (grammar or otherwise :) ) than can be found by doing a couple of clicks on 'random article'.
 * If you want to combat vandalism, I'd suggest that first you'd have a look at WP:VANDALISM, and then have a look at some of the vandalism reversion tools that Lupin has made. They're linked from his userpage.
 * Otherwise, any of the pages you mentioned in your last reply, or perhaps you can have a look at backlogs.
 * Cheers-  Cat tleG  irl   talk 07:59, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Barnstar Mockery
On May 7th of this year, at 14:37, the user page User:Dr Spam (MD) was created. Within a period of 48 hours, User:Dr Spam (MD) had placed approximately 55 barnstars on user pages and user talk pages. Many recipients doubted the sincerity of the sentiments behind these barnstars, in part because of the comments placed by Dr Spam on the barnstars. A sampling of the reasons that Dr. Spam offered for presenting barnstars to editors:


 * Hi - I am putting this here in case there's trouble later. Please accept this tireless barnstar thing for all of your wiki-activity. Thanks. User:Dr Spam (MD) 16:08, 11 May 2007


 * nice one! User:Dr Spam (MD) 16:51, 9 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi I am leaving you with this barnstar for you to reflect carefully on. I will provide the citation in a few days once you have had the opportunity to consider why I might think that you deserve it. Peace User:Dr Spam (MD) 16:50, 9 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Well done for all of your fantastic editing / writing: you are obviously a genius of our day, shining like the brightest barnstar against a dark barnnight in these new and difficult wiki-times. I therefore award you the surreal barnstar (I can't get the other barnstars to work properly - my apologies.) Please note that you have no right to remove the barnstar, for it is sacred. LEAVE WELL ALONE! Many thanks.


 * awesome contribution to this web site! have a lovely barnstar thing User:Dr Spam (MD) 12:01, 8 May 2007 (UTC)


 * cool editing


 * Awesome


 * Cool.


 * I am awarding you a surreal barnstar because you obviously deserve it! Keep up the good work - don't slacken off, it'll get harder before it gets easier!


 * Hy my cat (the fat white one) is awarding you this barnstar of diligence because he doesn't eat fish either. He just likes to eat biscuits - or so he says. But how then does he get so fat????

Occasionally Dr. Spam's comments did appear sincere (if vague), but a review of the record indicates that sincere-appearing comments were generally generated during a massive cut-and-paste session. There were also many barnstars presented with no comments at all, and even more that User:Dr Spam (MD) presented without signing his name to indicate from whom the award was coming. And some barnstars, praising the editing skills of the recipient, were awarded to editors with one solitary edit to their name.

In response, once this pattern of apparent insincerity was established, a few experienced editors asked Dr. Spam to desist from barnstar spamming, in the belief that randomly awarding barnstars devalues the entire barnstar program. (Indeed, so random was the placement of barnstars, that some were even placed on wiki accounts that had not been active for over a year.) Dr. Spam has now stopped, presumably recognizing that his efforts were not appreciated by the majority of editors.

Most of the barnstars placed by Dr. Spam during his May campaign have been voluntarily removed by the editors on whose pages they were placed. You are receiving this notice because Dr. Spam's barnstar still remains on your page. If you feel that Dr. Spam's barnstar spamming was a form of mockery, you may choose to remove it yourself. But if the way this barnstar was "awarded" does not bother you, you are of course free to keep it on your page. After all, it is your page. This notification was simply for your information. HuskyHuskie 13:48, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia Signpost
Hello, how can I order for the wikipedia signpost? I am not on a wiki break, I am just testing, if you are kind enough, please help me delete the wikibreak template on my user page. Please reply me on my talk page, thanks, Holmes.sherlock 10:33, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi, how are you? Great to hear from you.
 * For the signpost, just put your name on the list here, and it'll be delivered to you the next time it's published- once a week.
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Adoption...
Hello. I just joined today but used the site on a regular basis. I was trying to have my information in wikipedia. Can you help me get started? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ooayadi (talk • contribs) 18:44, 13 September 2007 (UTC) ```` sorry, my username is ooayadi. I just left you a message about having a bio. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ooayadi (talk • contribs) 18:45, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi, how are you?
 * I can of course help you get started, but it depends on the information you'll be putting in. Perhaps first you should have a look at WP:NOTE and WP:COI? These will help you write a truly WP:NPOV article.
 * Cheers-  Cat tleG  irl   talk 08:06, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

IP address
My IP is 68.115.76.248 so sometimes I don't log in and edit my user page so just telling you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by E-abulous (talk • contribs) 15:30, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

RFA Thanks
  Click there to open your card! → → → Dearest CattleGirl, Thank you for your participation in my RFA, which closed successfully with 96 supports, 1 oppose, and 3 neutrals. No matter if you !voted support, oppose, neutral, I thank you for taking the time to drop by. I'm a new admin remember, so if you have any suggestions feel free to inform me of them. I would like to give a special shout out to Hirohisat,  Wizardman , and  Husond , for there original co-nominations. Thank you once again and good day. Тhε Rαnδom Eδιτor

Credits
This RFA thanks was inspired by Phaedriel's RFA thanks. So unfortunatly this is not entirely my own design.

ILikePikachu
Hello. My user name is ILikePikachu. Wknight94 recommended adoption of this eternally blocked user. Please, I have already been turned down once. Help! 72.161.149.136 22:16, 17 September 2007 (UTC)(ILikePikachu)
 * Oh yes, I need to know when you are on Wikipedia, & your time zone. I hope you live in either the Central or Eastern time zones. 72.161.149.136 22:25, 17 September 2007 (UTC)(ILikePikachu)
 * Hi, I've looked over your request, and I'll contact the blocking admin, WOPUP to see what he reckons. You see, under our blocking policy, you were legitimately blocked for incivility and trolling (see the reason for your block). Usually, I wouldn't unblock so quickly, but we'll wait and see what he says- however, in the event that you are unblocked, I'd be quite willing to work with you.  Cat tleG  irl   talk 09:26, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

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Terribly sorry
In a cursory check of your contributions, I mistakenly took you for one of those users who treat Wikipedia like a social networking website, and pressed "block" without noticing your administrative duties. I am terribly sorry, and I have undone everything concerning this action.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龍 ) 23:05, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
 * That's alright! Yeah, I've been away on occasions for the last couple of months, so contributions have been low. Cheers-  Cat tleG  irl   talk 09:31, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

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Twiki
Hi, you reversed my edits to the Twiki (Buck Rogers) page about (BR owner) Lorraine Williams' reaction to the character and how her employees at TSR were told that mentioning Twiki or his characteristic noise would get you fired. While I accept that you may consider that information unsuitable for the character, it is actually true -- I worked at TSR under Lorraine Willams and my co-workers told me this. If there is a better place to put it, let me know, or if you think it doesn't belong anywhere on wikipedia, that is fine, but my comments are not vandalism, just uncited. Does wikipedia have a policy for firsthand citations? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Seankreynolds (talk • contribs) 15:23, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi,
 * I've had a look at the edit in question- I actually reverted an edit before yours, back to your version, however I can see why your version was reverted as well.
 * As it can't be verified, we can't have it in the article, as we need to keep all information reliable. Only reliable information backed up by a third-party website should be included.
 * Cheers-  Cat tleG  irl   talk 11:09, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Looking to be adopted + question
I'm looking for someone to mentor me as I dive further into some Wikipedia editing, and I was wondering if you might be up for it.

I also have a question about some formatting issues I've been running into. See Grand Lodge of Kansas. The edit links are being kicked to the bottom of the page by the infoboxes, and I'd like to correct this.


 * Hi, how are you?
 * Unfortunately I can't mentor you at this time, as I'm going away at various times over the two weeks or so. I've also looked at the page you mentioned, and the problem seems to be fixed at the moment, unless it's a difference in browsers?
 * Sorry I couldn't help you further-  Cat tleG  irl   talk 11:52, 29 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for responding. I understand if you're busy :) As for the page that I was working on, I got the issues fixed by spending some time discussing the problems in IRC, and by making about a dozen edits to one line.

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Deletion of Alex Horn's page
Hi CattleGirl, I noticed that the article about Alex Horn that I created yesterday was deleted very quickly (I guess that's why it's called "speedy deletion"...) and editors had no time to contribute to it. Is there a way to keep the page for, let's say, 24 hours or so before deletion to give the baby a chance to survive? By the way, Alex Horn was a controversial spiritual teacher and theater playwriter and there are lots of people that would like to know more about him. One of his students, Robert Burton, founded a religious organization with 2,000 members that has a article in Wikipedia Fellowship of Friends that is attracting a lot of attention (check the Talk page with 6 archives). If there is nothing you can do, it's OK. Thanks! Love-in-ark 18:06, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi, how are you?
 * The reason I deleted the page was because a google search showed up none of the information in the page, besides the site that you referenced, so the reliability is in doubt if it is not backed up by more sources.
 * However, if you could find more sources and establish notability, and maybe focusing on a biography of Alex Horn rather than the Theatre of Possibilities, you could recreate the page. I hoped that helped you, if not, feel free to ask-  Cat tleG  irl   talk 02:48, 5 October 2007 (UTC)