User talk:Caulde/Archive/6

Thx
Hello Ceedjee. I've transferred your comment from the changing username page to the help desk, where the question will be answered appropriately. You can view it here. Regards, R udget zŋ 20:25, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much for your support :-) -- Ceedjee (talk) 20:28, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * No problem. R udget zŋ 20:29, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

2009 UEFA European Under-21 Football Championship Qualification Group 2
The page was incomplete. 2009 UEFA European Under-21 Football Championship Qualification Group 2 now has more information in it now. Believe it or not, they DO qualify for World Cups a few years BEFORE the actual event. ViperSnake151 14:44, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

North West England portal
Hello Rudget! In addition to adding it to one of our project's key templates. I've been adding the following to a couple of articles:

See Manchester as an example. Thought it might serve as a means to generate a bit more interest????? Hope that helps, -- Jza84 · (talk) 00:30, 18 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the kind gesture of the barnstar! I'm most proud to recieve our project's official award!


 * Since my last message, I've added the portal to the Greater Manchester, Lancashire, Merseyside, and Cumbria navigation templates (not sure why we didn't think of it before now!). I haven't added it to Cheshire material because they appear to have their own portal. I just hope it helps somewhat! Thanks again, -- Jza84 · (talk) 13:43, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

So what more do you want to know?
I apologize if my answers weren't clear enough. Maybe it's my journalist's inclination, but I thought getting to the point and expressing my views in a succinct manner was the way to go. If you want to know more, feel free to ask here or on my talk page. Thanks ... Blueboy96 13:17, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Hi Rudget
Aloha Again, Wiki-Stepdad :-) Can I ask you something? If you think that a section of an article should be splitted into a new article, and if it is quite controversial, what can you do except putting the proposition template there? Thanks. --escon dites  15:53, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
 * What are article are you reffering to? Then I can appropriate the advice. Rudget .talk 16:00, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
 * It's Tindouf Province, I think Sahrawi refugee camps should get a seperate article. --escon dites  16:01, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
 * It's somewhat controversial because most articles redirect to "Tindouf Province" in reference to the refugee camps in particular, not for statistical information about the Province itself. --escon dites  16:12, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I splitted the section now. Did I do everything right? --escon dites  06:23, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Radio stations
I understand that this was a WP:SNOW close, but all the reasons for keep were completely ridiculous, not based in any policy or guideline, and ignored the policies cited in the nomination reason. They were based on some unwritten rule that a FCC license makes a radio station notable. However, that is directly contrary to the notability guideline and most of the article content fails WP:V. Other reasons for keeping were in the range of WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS - comparing those minor stations to the BBC World Service. The AFD tags were removed from one article before it was closed with a very OWN-ish reason. I've started a thread at the Village Pump about this strange notability rule. I would also like to point out this in case you didn't see it. Mr.  Z- man  19:21, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry to pass in here out of the blue, but I saw the topic at the pump. I looked at the afd devate, and, having read the comments at the afd, I have to say I can see no discussion, no-one is engaging and looking to build consensus, and the one objection has not been addressed. I'm also disturbed that you state at the pump you gave the opinions expressed by the admins in the debate greater weight.  Admins are simply editors who become admins when using admin tools.  If they aren't using the tools or discussing actions resulting from using the tools, they are just editors and their opinions are worth the same as every other editor.  I'd take more care when closing afds, it's hard working out the contentious ones but that's what admins are trusted by the community to do. Steve block Talk 21:58, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Hello Steve. I would like to start by saying thank you for wanting to dicuss this topic with me. Secondly, I didn't mean that administrator !votes should help swey the AFD in favour of their comments, because that would be a violation of a whole host of policies, unwritten rules and guidelines. I also strived to meet with non-admin closing AFDs guidelines, all of which, in my opinion, I complied with. For example, I didn't interact in the AFD as part of the general discussion, all !votes were keep, consensus seemed reached (even though some may have been "pile on" edits) and the rationale was provided in the closing line. I would also like to mention the fact that, as a participant at AFD since July 2007, I have gained a greater understanding of what is consensus and what isn't. It is usual (IMO) where articles that have been misplaced at AFD gain a unanimous keep and it is regular that all keeps are left short as per the first one or two users who explain their reasons for keeping the article, like here for an example. Thanks once again for replying to me and I'm sure that we can work together in the future at AFD, and I will try to maintain a stricter policy on what other users may see as consensus. Regards, Rudget .talk 22:56, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Due to concerns with the keep rationales and the possible canvassing noted at the village pump, I've taken the articles to DRV. Mr.  Z- man  23:03, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I can't see how you followed the guidelines on non-admins closing afds, since I think you'd agree this discussion was not closed as part of a backlog. Steve block Talk 10:30, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

My RFA
Thank you, Rudget, for participating in my RFA, which passed 35/1/0. I look forward to helping out. If you have any concerns or suggestions/advice, my talk page is always open.—Random832 14:08, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Tina Small
I think the significance of the subject has been established. The article just needs sources. ++Arx Fortis (talk) 16:44, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

1400
A good round number! I hadn't noticed the numbering, so thanks for letting me know. Regards, BencherliteTalk 21:55, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Adopting me
Tell me more about yourself and what kind of articles you are interested in editing. New York Dreams (talk)
 * Based on what you told me, you are more then welcome to adopt me until 2008. :)  New York Dreams (talk)  —Preceding comment was added at 03:42, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Officially accepted. New York Dreams (talk) 03:45, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

jsferreira
Can you tell me if my page on Mervyn Alleyne is up to Wikipedia standards now? Thanks, Jo-Anne —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jsferreira (talk • contribs) 18:38, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks, new at this. Jo-Anne

Jsferreira (talk) 18:47, 19 November 2007 (UTC) Yes, that would be great! Thank you! J Jsferreira (talk) 18:59, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Basically what to do about this: This article or section may contain original research or unverified claims. Please improve the article by adding references. See the talk page for details. --Jsferreira (talk) 19:34, 19 November 2007 (UTC).

And do I reply on your page or my page. Is there like a pdf manual "Wikipedia for dummies"?Jsferreira (talk) 19:35, 19 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I've removed that tag, because I now feel the article conforms to Wikipedia policy on notability, and is reasonably sourced with independent references which makes it verifiable. As for the "Wikipedia for dummies" - I could suggest a couple of things: if you ever get stuck and I'm not online, go here for help, it never takes any more than 10 minutes to get a reply from an experienced user; another thing is, the introduction to Wikipedia (which is a brief sort of thing explaining how to edit pages) and finally the tutorial, it has a short explanation and links at the top, to various other help pages. There no PDF as per se, but I'm sure this makes up for it none the less. Oh and don't worry about making mistakes, all users do, and people are nice around here, so there will always be kind words exchanged when an erronous edit is made. Regards, <font face="tahoma" color="green">Rudget .<font face="tahoma" color="green">talk  20:07, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Hi, I'm back. I volunteered to be part of the Linguist List Wikipedia Update. Just wanted to know if I am doing the right thing re: Trinidadian English as a starter: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Trinidadian_English (I added both these: WP Languages|class= --Jsferreira (talk) 21:26, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Closures of WRNY (AM) and WRRC (FM)
Never saw that firestorm coming, eh? ;-) Funny thing is, those discussions were a long time in coming and really needed to happen, so it looks like it's going to turn out for the best after all. We might get a good notability policy for media out of all this, which would be great. I'm tired of all those AfDs based on WP:CORP. dhett (talk • contribs) 06:27, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

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Pure Weight Loss deletion
I attempted to post an article yesterday on the weight loss company "Pure Weight Loss." The article was flagged as spam and speedy deleted, but it was not spam. I was not writing to advertise for the company, but was actually posting the article because of all of the controversy surrounding the company at this time. It has been involved in multiple lawsuits and featured on news programs (including 20 20). These articles, including one on a .gov page, were included as references. I did notice that eDiets, Weight Watchers, Curves, and many other similar companies do have pages. Could you please advise me on what I can do to assure the Pure Weight Loss article can be posted? Your help is greatly appreciated! Seerinteractive (talk) 15:53, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Requests for adminship/Shalom-- just explaining my own !vote
Would not think of seeking to change another's !vote. Just explaining my own position. Cheers,<font color="#009500"> :) Dloh <font color="#950095">cierekim  20:47, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

hmmm?
Thanks for your offer to co-nominate me, but I have to ask: do I know you by another name perhaps? Apologies in advance if appropriate: I'm one of those people who just doesn't remember names unless I've been reminded several times :). -- SB_Johnny | <sup style="color:green;">talk  22:00, 20 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Why I ask, you mean? I was just (pleasantly) surprised that someone whose name I didn't even recognize would make such a kind offer :). -- SB_Johnny | <sup style="color:green;">talk  16:52, 21 November 2007 (UTC)


 * :) Be careful with that... most of the "best candidates" probably wouldn't want to go through the RfA process. I speak from experience here: I had a small group of people putting a lot of pressure on me to be an admin a year or so ago, and it's really not a fun position to be in. OTOH, if you do know someone who would be of great value to the community but would feel timid about doing an RfA, please feel free to refer them to me in my Wikiversity capacity: mentorship is a wonderful way to help people learn how wonderful it can be to have tools and help others in times of need. -- SB_Johnny | <sup style="color:green;">talk  17:04, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
I appreciate the offer. I don't see why not. You might want to co-ordinate with Pedro and Henrik. I'm quite giddy right now. I never dreamed I'd have so many nom offers. Also a bit logy, because I just got home form the the salt mine. Cheers,<font color="#009500"> :) Dloh <font color="#950095">cierekim  06:12, 22 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I feel really bad pointing this out, but in some cases, Rfa !voters have had negative reactions to too many noms (for some reason I can't really understand) and it would be a shame if that happened here. If you want to Dloh, I'd be happy to let Rudget take my place. <font color="#B38F00">henrik •<font color="#AFA29F">talk  08:21, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Much appreciation and humility here Thanks again.  Cheers,<font color="#009500"> :) Dloh <font color="#950095">cierekim  16:57, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Possibly unfree Image:Manchester big screen.jpg
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 * Hiya! Please could you tell the user it is your picture so it can be withdrawn. It is on the Manchester article and this will affect the WP:FAC process. Thanks! └<font color="#0084C9">and-rew ┘┌<font color="#0084C9">talk ┐ 17:42, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Nominator notified. Best, <font face="tahoma" color="green">Rudget .<font face="tahoma" color="green">talk 18:08, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Whoa, I've never seen Exchange Square that full. --Deskana (talk) 16:37, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Unspecified source for Image:Didsbury_1905.jpg
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Fair use rationale for Image:Barlow_weblogo.PNG
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 * Deleted after I requested speedy deletion, which wasn't related to this incident. <font face="tahoma" color="green">Rudget .<font face="tahoma" color="green">talk 17:58, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Unspecified source for Image:Didsbury_Parish_Church.jpg
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Your images
These images are ones of long backlog, don't worry and assume good faith :)--OsamaK (talk) 17:41, 23 November 2007 (UTC)