User talk:Cavie315

While I appreciate that you want to contribute to our article on the Cavaliers drum and bugle corps, I have been removing your explanation of the Cavaliers' secret word because it is unverifiable. Any claims made on Wikipedia need to be verifiable and unless you can Cite a source other than your own personal experience, I do not feel comfortable with such a claim in the article. Thank you. Mr Bound 13:38, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
 * When I said that you need to be able to verify that the Cavaliers' secret word is indeed what you claim, I didn't mean that you needed to verify the existence of the word in popular culture. If you want to have this addition kept, you need to prove that it is clearly the meaning of the word to the Cavaliers. I can claim the meaning of Phantom Regiment's "SUTA" is from the US tax acronym for State Unemployment TAxes, and cite a source that such a meaning exists, but this is no more true that what you cited in your edit. Please stop making this addition unless you can support it. If this goes on I'm going to take this to the dispute resolution process (Resolving disputes). Mr Bound 02:26, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Like I said before, the problem with the internet in general is that, despite your assertions, I have no proof that you know what the real meaning of Splooie is, or that you even marched Cavies. You said it yourself in your edit- Cavaliers alumni have been known to disseminate fake meanings to try and cover up the real one. If we were to include your one meaning of splooie in the article, since it would be no more verifiable than any other, we would have to have an entire catalogue of meanings for splooie, and that could engender a whole new dispute about notability of those meanings. So, in summary:
 * 1) Assuming that the meaning of splooie you have suggested is in fact true, it should probably be included in the article.
 * 2) Because simply stating that splooie = slang for ejaculate is inadequate, it would be necessary to include information about the sexual history of the Cavaliers D&BC.
 * 3) Because this information is admittedly controversial, it would be prudent to cite it and show it is not an unfounded assertion.
 * 4) Because the Cavaliers have a stricly oral history for this tradition, and have taken pains to keep it secret, at present there is no readily apparent or verifiable source on the matter.
 * If you see a way to work around this, please let me know. I'd be glad to resolve this on our own. The closest I can find to what might be an citable source for the cheer is, but I'm certainly not shelling out $160 over a Wiki article. To answer your two other questions, to learn about reliable sources Reliable sources might be of help, and I think the section on "exceptional claims require exceptional evidence" is relevant here. Second, I don't know the meaning of SUTA, and after glancing at the Phantom Regiment article I might have to add a line on the existence of the word. Thank you for reading this, I hope we can reach an amicable conclusion. Mr Bound 03:55, 30 May 2006 (UTC)