User talk:Cbburget

List of steam car makers
Hi Cbburget - I note your recent reversion of my edit below. ''Also called West and Burgett in some publications. ''. I need to understand why you reverted it as it is factually correct with regard to the publication cited. Also, from your user name - are you related to Burgett? NealeFamily (talk) 01:12, 30 March 2016 (UTC)


 * NealeFamily, I appreciate your interest in this subject. C. Edward Burgett was my great grandfather, I am C. Bradford Burgett.  I have been in contact with the website that you have cited requesting that they also correct their listing, however I have yet to hear back from their webmaster.  When I initially edited this Wikipedia page I had included some articles and photos that I have related to the car in question.  I would like very much to be able to share these with you as well.  I'm not sure why they were taken off the page.


 * So the family story, my great grandfather was a well know machinist and pattern maker. Aside from the car he produced a line of "hit and miss" type engines for various uses.  He for a time worked for General Electric as a pattern maker.  The other gentleman associated with the car is William West.  William operated the laundry service in Middleburgh where I live.  William and my grandfather were friends and often would work on projects together.  Years after exhibiting the car at the local fair there began bickering over who could use the car, how often, etc.  In typical passive aggressive fashion for my family, my great grandfather threw his hands in the air and began to dismantle the car, it was then sold for scrap (it was sold and re-acquired prior to this).  A funny aside, the junkie that purchased the scrap didn't do a good job tying down the copper boiler, twice, he subsequently bought the same copper boiler three times.  Many years after this Henry West, the son of William West, borrowed photos of the car as it was being built and produced a replica, which Henry claimed to be the original.  This vehicle is still in existence and since its construction the West family has tried very hard to rewrite the history books to indicate that William was the original creator. The West that had the most involvement with the car was a Squire West, a local cabinet maker, who fashioned the wooden body for the car.


 * How on earth do I add photos to this? My email is hcc.customs@gmail.com, if it is easier to continue this conversation via e-mail.  Thanks, I look forward to hearing from you.


 * http://www.gasenginemagazine.com/gas-engines/from-a-to-z-mystery-engine.aspx
 * http://www.thegasup.org/


 * Thanks for the background. Okay bear with me because I need to cover some housekeeping first, then I will deal with an article on the car.

Housekeeping
 * 1. Please remember to sign your posts with the 4 wiggly lines
 * 2. As you are directly related to one of the cars creators you will need to declare a conflict of interest - see WP:COI which provides the rules and best way to approach - my suggestion is to create a sandbox - take a look at mine at User:NealeFamily/sandbox. This is where I store information and draft articles as I find information.
 * 3. Uploading photo's - the conflict of interest article has comment about photo's and a link to the how to guide
 * 4. If you get stuck at any point feel free to leave a note on my talk page User talk:NealeFamily

Burgett and West steam car Take a look at the Talbot Samba article, which is an example of a good article on a single model. It is unlikely that the steam car article would be of that length but it should help you regarding content and layout. Also note that any claims made are referenced - so newspaper and magazine articles are usually best. Take a look at Citing sources.

For a totally unfounded example: if the West family came up with an article from a Reliable Source such as say The New York Times that said they built the car and your grandfather watched on, then there would be difficulty contradicting it. On the other hand if both you and West's came up with reliable sources - one saying the watched and the other saying your grandfather watched, then the article would put forwarded both viewpoints and leave it to the reader to decide. Wiki doesn't try to resolve historic conflicts, but tries to give an unbiased point of view.

Some times editors get into what is termed an edit war over these types of disputes. As you imagine this becomes quite disruptive and is subject to some rules - see Edit warring.

Anyway enough from me, don't be discouraged and happy editing. Like I said earlier if you need a hand along the way most editors are happy to help. Also there are subject interest groups you can join with talk pages you can post questions on. I am in three which you can see from my home page NealeFamily (talk) 08:32, 2 April 2016 (UTC)