User talk:Ccjcole2347

April 2016
Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Tim Biakabutuka, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear constructive and has been reverted. Please make use of the sandbox if you'd like to experiment with test edits. ''The content you removed is cited; if the citation is wrong, please explain why on the talk page. While I believe that you know Tim as you state, any user can claim to know anyone that has an article on Wikipedia, and as such that is not sufficient as a reliable source.'' 331dot (talk) 13:58, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

I have know Tim Biakabatuka since 2004, he has never owned, operated, invested in, or had anything to do with Nathans hot dogs and any assertion to the contrary is erroneous or a complete fabrication of fact. Ive called Nathans hot dogs corporate and they have no record of any franchisee named Tim Biakabutuka in their history. Tim has a very successful track record in business and does not deserve to be besmirched by errors or fabrications. Please remove all reference to Nathans hot dogs from his wikipedia profile.
 * As I indicated, your word on that is not sufficient. The information you are trying to remove is cited; if the citation is incorrect, please indicate in what way and why. You can do so here, or on the article's talk page, which is proper procedure. 331dot (talk) 14:41, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Reading the source given, it does mention 'failed ventures' but does not say what they are, so I have removed the reference. In the future it would be helpful to state what is wrong with the cited information specifically before removing it; otherwise it just appears as if you are someone trying to remove unfavorable information from the subject of an article. 331dot (talk) 14:55, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

Forgive my frustration, the edit is not based on my word, its based on fact. When I read your article, knowing Tim and the fact that your article caused financial harm (Delayed a 20MM dollar deal) based on non-disclosure of a Nathans Hot Dog Franchise, I contacted Nathans Hot Dog Corporate atPhone: 516-338-8500.One Jericho Plaza Second Floor - Wing A Jericho, New York 11753. Tim has tried to change this himself many times and appears you don't want to take "his word" either so why don't you call Nathans Hot Dog and satisfy yourself based on the fact they have no record of Tim EVER owning, investing, or participating in a Nathans Hot Dog Franchise. We are very happy to have our legal folks get in touch with yours as this error in reporting is causing financial harm and repetitional harm to Tim. And Tim owns four Bojangles not three. What is it you want specifically to allow an error to be corrected on your site? Since Mr. Biakabutukas word isn't good enough, Nathans Corporate having no record of this purported failed franchise venture, and his business partner (me) advising theres no record? Im very confused as to why your so insistent on reporting false information. Tell me under these set of facts exactly what you want.
 * As I indicated, I have removed the information after further review. If Mr. Biakabutuka wishes to correct information, which he certainly can do, there are ways for him to prove his identity to Wikipedia if he chooses to do so. If you wish to correct information, you need evidence of what you are claiming, which it is up to you to provide.   Please note that making legal threats is not permitted and will result in your being blocked from editing Wikipedia unless you retract them.  331dot (talk) 15:09, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

I am not threatening anyone. I don't know how to "prove" something is false when there is absolutely no record of the claimed relationship other than cite the source stating your citation is false which in this case is actually Nathans Hot Dog Corporate. Our legal team had to do the same. They can call yours and perhaps straighten this out or get what you want to satisfy removing it. Nathans hot dog won't send us anything in writing because they said "we have nothing to send, Mr. Biakabutuka has never been involved with Nathans Hot Dog. Tim has tried more than once and got frustrated and and asked recently if I would see if I can fix the error.  So I am left with you calling or some third party letter to satisfy your firm to remove the false information.  Are you telling me if Tim logs in to wikipedia, allows his IP to be captured, he can make the change and won't meet with the same resistance?  Or will Tim need something in writing from Nathans stating he was never involved in their franchise to remove the citation?

We all want the same thing, an accurate profile in Wikipedia, please help us by identifying what specifically we can provide (If its Tim himself saying its not so then we will do that), if its a letter from Natans state that, what is it we can provide to remove the inaccurate information. Can we update Tim owns four stores or do we need something specific to cite that fact as well?
 * You are stating that you will "have our legal folks get in touch with yours as this error in reporting is causing financial harm and repetitional harm to Tim" which is all legal terminology and suggests that legal action will be taken if you are unsatisfied. Using lawyers to communicate is a form of legal action and could be considered a legal threat; please clarify that you will not take legal action if that is the case.
 * I will say again, the information about Nathan's has been removed as the source did not state that. If you had simply stated "the source listed does not state what is claimed" everything would have been fine. If Tim wishes to correct other information in the article, he should create an account and then email the address listed in this section where he can explain the situation and prove his identity to Wikipedia volunteers, and then post on the talk page of the article discussing his concerns. 331dot (talk) 15:28, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
 * If Tim does as I state above, that should be sufficient for him to correct the number of restaurants he owns. 331dot (talk) 15:32, 10 April 2016 (UTC)