User talk:Cclausenwdr

List of Sudbury schools
In answer to your question, "Why can't we have names with no links, external or otherwise? The name of this article is "list of sudbury schools" and it's missing about 80% of the information it should contain.", is because Wikipedia is not a directory of businesses. It's not the White Pages nor is it the Yellow Pages. It's not meant to advertise your school. Jauerbackdude?/dude. 14:30, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Fair enough, Jauerback but, as mentioned on the AFD discussion, this list is encyclopedic because it doesn't exist elsewhere on the internet. The Wikipedia list has been an authority on this topic, and given the democratic nature of Wikipedia, and the democratic (non-hierarchical, non-franchised) nature of Sudbury schools, it's been THE way that our schools raise their hands and acknowledge their own existance. This list has been used by researchers as well as parents and students. I understand that Wikipedia is not a way to advertise, but isn't it a place to aggregate real and notable information? --Cclausenwdr (talk) 18:28, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
 * You're misunderstanding the outcome of the AFD. Also, the keyword in your statement is NOTABLE. Jauerbackdude?/dude. 19:51, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Jauerback, the wikipedia definition of notable has to do with external third party sources, correct? Sudbury schools as a category meet this definition, even if every single item on the list doesn't. So that would mean those schools don't have their own Wikipedia page, but couldn't they be included in the category? Regarding "misunderstanding the outcome of the AFD", I'm not stating that the OUTCOME of the AFD was something, but that a point was made in that discussion that such a list serves an encyclopedic purpose because it doesn't exist elsewhere in a significant way. --Cclausenwdr (talk) 20:26, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I can bring up any point in an AFD and that doesn't make it correct, much less followed. You're confusing category and list, but regardless, it doesn't mean that any and every school is worthwhile of being added to eiher one. Try reading WP:NOTADIRECTORY again. Jauerbackdude?/dude. 20:46, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Here, look at this: WP:LISTCOMPANY. If you can find a single independent and reliable source that is about the school, feel free to add the school to the list with the citation. HOWEVER, the article can't be a press release or something that mentions the school because it's about a student who won some award or because the fire department or police were called there for some reason. Jauerbackdude?/dude. 21:33, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Okay, so WP:LISTCOMPANY states "A company or organization may be included in a list of companies or organizations whether or not it meets the Wikipedia notability requirement, unless a given list specifically requires this. If the company or organization does not have an existing article in Wikipedia, a citation to an independent, reliable source should be provided to establish its membership in the list's group." Which means that any of these schools that have an article written by a reliable third party can be included, right? And, where should that citation go to prove that they belong on the list? Just making sure I understand the requirements. And, Jauerback, I want to state for the record that I appreciate you taking your time on this and your commitment to Wikipedia. Text isn't a good format to convey tone, so I would like to clearly thank you and explain that I'm trying to do this right and not create advertisements. I want this to be a valuable page to Wikipedia and its users. --Cclausenwdr (talk) 23:21, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes, that's correct. Take a look at WP:CITE for how to add one. Admittedly, that's a big long, but if you can parse through it, there's plenty of examples of how to do it. Really, it can be as simple as adding  tags around a link. And, thanks, I appreciate it. Jauerbackdude?/dude. 11:13, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

Never mind. I see you figured it out. Thanks, again. Jauerbackdude?/dude. 11:16, 28 February 2019 (UTC)