User talk:Ccriderr

March 2015
Hello, I'm Dicklyon. I wanted to let you know that I undid one or more of your recent contributions to Mousepad because it did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks! Dicklyon (talk) 06:50, 7 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Here are sources to verify Jack Kelley's contribution to Engelbart's mouse support products and Demo presentation. This was done in 1968 not 1969.  Proof of this can be found in the following links: Bill English, Stanford Research Institute, project manager of the Demo presented in San Francisco in 1968.


 * Also, a film was made of the Demo and can be viewed thru this link: http://web.stanford.edu/dept/SUL/library/extra4/sloan/mousesite/1968Demo.html Reference info can be found on Clip 35 from 2:40 min to 3:28 min


 * In addition, Electronics magazine published January 20, 1969 covered the Demo in a 3 page article.


 * Jack KelleyCcriderr (talk) 13:25, 10 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Jack, thanks for the note from Bill.  I haven't seen him in a long time myself.  Unfortunately, per WP:RS, we can't really use this as a source.  I realize too that the question is complicated by the retrospective interpretation of what a mouse pad is, and by the cited publication that says you made one in 1969.  He might just have the date wrong, or he might be thinking of some mod to the 1968 demo furniture.  Hard to tell.  That's a difficulty with our WP:V policy; even when you know the truth, it's hard to make such correction that disagree with a cited source.


 * If you can quote what here, or on the article talk page, exactly what the source says that we should represent in the article, we can use that. If the source doesn't say mousepad, we might represent what it does say, but without that word.  Something like that the first  mouse was used on a surface designed by Jack Kelly in 1968.


 * I suggest you post this information in a new section at Talk:Mousepad, and ask other editors if they can find a source that will help to make further corrections. Dicklyon (talk) 15:31, 10 March 2015 (UTC)