User talk:Cczwirn

Austrian Technik Bratislava ATB
Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but you removed a speedy deletion tag from Austrian Technik Bratislava ATB, a page you have created yourself. If you do not believe the page should be deleted, you can place a tag on the page, under the existing speedy deletion tag (please do not remove the speedy deletion tag), and make your case on the page's talk page. Administrators will look at your reasoning before deciding what to do with the page. Thank you. Jafeluv (talk) 09:43, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Hello I am just trying to get a nice looking Wikipedia page, however my technical skills are not up to par.

I wish to speak with someone about my content. I am not trying to advertise (I have no prices or Contact numbers) but I do want to highlite the capabilities of the center. I have seen other MRO websites and I do not feel my content is any more persuasive than theirs. I cant quite get the formating. I dont know if it is because I have a restriction, but I would like to know what your staff is thinking in regards to my article.

Thank you

cczwirn


 * For formatting issues, there's a pretty good guide to the different formatting methods at Cheatsheet. If you have trouble interpreting it, drop me a message on my talk page and I'll try to help you out. Also, you should sign your comments on talk pages (but not in articles!) with four tildes: ~ . This will generate your signature when you save the page. Considering the fact that you signed the above post as "ATB", you may want to read our conflict of interest guideline. In short, editors are strongly discouraged from creating and editing articles whose subjects they are personally affiliated with, because that affiliation may hinder the editor's neutrality on the subject. Please let me know if you have any questions. Regards, Jafeluv (talk) 12:03, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Greetings Cczwirn. Due to some of the concerns highlighted by Jafeluv, I have temporarily moved the article out of the encyclopaedia into your namespace at User:Cczwirn/Austrian Technik Bratislava ATB. This is so that you and interested others can work on developing the article to meet our inclusion standards without risk of deletion. Some helpful pages for you might be Your first article, FAQ/Organizations, WP:PROMO. Please feel free to contact me or Jafeluv if you need help with anything, and sorry that your early interactions with Wikipedia have not been without trouble. Regards, Skomorokh  12:24, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Well... Thank you to Jafeluv whom I assumed fixed my article. That is exactly what I wanted.

I can access it on the Search Bar Main page... and I like the way it looks. COuld you please re-insert it on the encyclopedia as it is now?

Thank you,

Cczwirn
 * Hello again Cczwirn. I'm not sure the article is ready to be re-inserted in the encyclopaedia yet, because it does not show that the company is notable, i.e. that it has been written about in reliable, independent secondary sources. Do you know if any business magazines or newspapers have published articles about ATB? All I could find was this small mention. Regards,  Skomorokh  12:47, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Hello:

We have not had articles printed about us, because nobody knows anything about us. It is kind of a Chicken before the Egg issue. We want to be able to be found in a google search and Wikipedia is the best way to do that. I dont want to advertise I simply want our facts out there. We are a small organization of 100 with a parent company of over 8,000. They are not interested in our efforts for getting our name out there, so I have been hired to bring/improve our notoriety. Is having an article printed about us a necessary qualifier? Can check our website, contacts and the links to verify our authenticity?

Does this somewhat help my case in getting re-entered onto the encyclopedia?

Thank you,

Cczwirn
 * Hi again. I'm afraid that's not really what an encyclopaedia is for. We do not publish original thought or journalism - we can only write about what has already been covered in third party sources. This is because the reader must be able to verify the source of the information. So basically, first you'd have to make your company known so that other people write about you. I'm sorry, but without any sources there isn't really anything we can do to make the article meet the inclusion criteria. By the way, it was Skomorokh who fixed your article :) Regards, Jafeluv (talk) 19:41, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Hey there!

Okay, we haven't had articles published, but we are in directories and listed as an MRO on websites. We have also been doing business for 2 years. Therefore, we are out there in the market. If people would like a breif summary of ATB, where else can they go with such ease.

We have details published in the Aircraft Maintenanace and Engineering Directory 2009. The Directory's web address is www.airporttransportpubs.com or on the Aviationweek MRO Prospector Website.

Does this not warrant the publicity lable. We are out there.

Cczwirn

Hello Hello. I just wanted to write and mention that we have had an article published about us in WE newsletter magazine. I can send a copy of it, but I do not believe it is located on the internet.

I believe we are reaching requirements.

Cczwirn