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Update the deaths for me.
The death went up to 20,500. Update it for me. Here's the source. https://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2023/12/359745/palestinian-death-toll-jumps-to-over-20-500 173.44.89.180 (talk) 21:48, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

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Revert
the RAFAC are no longer known as the Air Training Corps and hasn't for a long time. Please remove your revert. Joddd334 (talk) 20:19, 24 January 2024 (UTC)


 * I have been unable to find sources detailing this change, if you have sources please share them. -- Cdjp1 (talk) 21:13, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * There was never a big announcement it was just a change that gradually happened. It became particularly prominent post CFC when the term "Air Training Corps" became less used and "RAF Air Cadets" became more common. RAF wanted to have their name in the organisation to show that they were sponsors of the corps Joddd334 (talk) 23:47, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Without a reliable source stating the change as official, the article will remain in a state that is in line with our current reliable sources. And with your description it seems that it's not a change to the actual entities that has occurred and more so something members have just adopted in a linguistic shift. -- Cdjp1 (talk) 13:28, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
 * please find me sources thar say it is still the "ATC", when the RAF website doesn't state "ATC" anywhere. Joddd334 (talk) 13:30, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
 * here -- Cdjp1 (talk) 18:31, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
 * from 2007. Show me anywhere on this website, https://www.raf.mod.uk/aircadets/cadets/being-a-cadet/, where lt says "Air Training Corps" or ATC? Joddd334 (talk) 08:16, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

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Voted twice
You voted twice at Talk:Al-Rashid humanitarian aid incident, FYI. IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 01:37, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

Indian Navy's epaulettes
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 * @Robert McClenon Hi Robert, the article was initially created and then moved to draft due to no citations and being a general stub, the original creator then ignored the draft and recreated the page in main space. The page requires a full review from draft and not just accepting the editor having bypassed the draft process. -- Cdjp1 (talk) 09:03, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
 * User:Cdjp1 - I largely agree with you, that the biography of a living person does not appear to be ready for article space. However, Wikipedia is the encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and the originator has chosen to bypass the draft process, and the guideline is clear that an originator may bypass the draft review process, see objecting to draftification.  When an originator has chosen to bypass draft review, the article is in article space.  Your choices and mine include nominating the article for deletion, tagging the article, reducing the article to a stub, or expanding the article.  I don't plan to nominate the article for deletion, and do not recommend that it be nominated for deletion, because it is my opinion that the subject is notable.  There isn't a procedure for enforcing a review from draft over the objection of the originator (and moving the article from draft to article is a means of objecting), except in the case of authors with conflict of interest, which this does not appear to be.  If you have any further questions about how other editors can deal with an article that is moved into article space without review, we can discuss at the Village Pump or the Articles for Creation talk page.  Robert McClenon (talk) 16:00, 20 March 2024 (UTC)

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Soviet POWs death toll
I see that you're a frequent editor of the list of genocides page, and regularly edit and also format sources. There's a discussion between me and another user on the page "German atrocities committed against Soviet prisoners of war", where the work of Peter Calvocoressi and Guy Wint estimating 3.5 million Soviet POWs dead has been labeled as being WP:FRINGE and non-academic, yet it is cited as the upper limit on "List of genocides". Also, the work of Russian historians Boris Sokolov and Viktor Zemskov has been labeled WP:FRINGE, so I would appreciate input on the matter. Reaper1945 (talk) 03:26, 27 March 2024 (UTC)


 * @Reaper1945 I may not get to this till tomorrow evening, but I can look refresh my knowledge on current literature, and act accordingly. -- Cdjp1 (talk) 09:11, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

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Nakba citation template edits
Hi, I don't understand what is the benefit of changing {harvnb |blah |blah} to {harvnb|blah|blah}, can you explain? Levivich (talk) 23:20, 14 April 2024 (UTC)


 * I reverted your edit (again). Sorry, but changing (to take one example) {sfnm |Masalha |2012 |1pp=13 and 128 |2a1=Abu-Lughod |2a2=Sa'di |2y=2007 |2p=19} to {sfnm|Masalha|2012|1pp=13 and 128|2a1=Abu-Lughod|2a2=Sa'di|2y=2007|2p=19} makes the citation worse, not better. I'm not sure if this was just a mistake or an intentional change? Levivich (talk) 03:28, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

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 * Hi, please note that the procedure is that you respond to my GAN comments, and I then review your responses and strike my comments when I am satisfied they've been attended to properly. Please don't strike anything, that causes chaos. Many thanks, Chiswick Chap (talk) 17:15, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
 * My apologies, rather new to the whole process. -- Cdjp1 (talk) 17:23, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
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Baloch Genocide
I am new to wiki and I need some help in the article If you could for the baloch genocide

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June 2024
Can you please self-revert this edit as it violates the 1RR restrictions. Thanks. M.Bitton (talk) 17:19, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Since you are clearly ignoring this request, you leave me with no choice but to report it to the admins. M.Bitton (talk) 17:36, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
 * From my reading of the 3/1 RR rule, it counts against the individual editor, and so would not apply to my recent edit. -- Cdjp1 (talk) 17:42, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
 * It's your second revert within 4 hours (that's a violation of 1RR). I take it you have no intention of self-reverting. M.Bitton (talk) 17:43, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
 * No, that is my first edit on the article today. -- Cdjp1 (talk) 17:45, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Here's your first revert. M.Bitton (talk) 17:46, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Ok, if your issue is with Allegations article, then 1RR still does not apply, as the reversions are completely different sections and information. -- Cdjp1 (talk) 17:47, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Wait, I'm confused, is your issue with the Palestine genocide accusation article, or the Allegations in 2023 article? -- Cdjp1 (talk) 17:46, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I linked to the diff, so there should be no confusion. M.Bitton (talk) 17:48, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
 * You linked to two completely different articles in your first two messages. -- Cdjp1 (talk) 17:49, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I linked to the diff that you need to self-revert. The other article was to prove that you have read and ignored my request. M.Bitton (talk) 17:50, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Well it doesn't prove that, it shows I was editing after you had posted your first message. I didn't open my notifications until after your second message. -- Cdjp1 (talk) 17:59, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
 * That's no longer an issue since you made it clear that you have no intention of self-reverting. M.Bitton (talk) 18:00, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I was trying to figure out what your claim actually was, sorry for that. Since I now understand the article and issue at hand, I will undo my recent change to keep the peace. But the opening still needs amending as currently it doesn't read right for it's purpose as a lede, as detailed in my edit commentary. -- Cdjp1 (talk) 18:03, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
 * For the record, this comment was in regards to the Palestine genocide accusation article, as that was the article I mistakenly thought was under discussion, and so my supposed revert there was the first I had done on that page. -- Cdjp1 (talk) 18:01, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Ok, if your issue is with Allegations article, then 1RR still does not apply is what you said. M.Bitton (talk) 18:02, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

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Request for “peer review”
Hey, as there have been some complaints about the sources, I’m currently in the process of creating a table for the sources I dug up in the move discussion. Acknowledging that it’s probably a pain, would you mind giving it a quick look (on facts only, you’re under no obligations to endorse) once I’m done? As it’s a foreign language to most, I don’t want them to only be able to rely on my word and translation, and your user page lists German as a language. FortunateSons (talk) 21:51, 25 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Ok, I'll try and run some tomorrow. -- Cdjp1 (talk) 22:32, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Great, depending on when tomorrow is for you, I might be done or mostly done by then :) FortunateSons (talk) 22:33, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

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Regarding your edit to Allegations of genocide in the 2023 Israeli attack on Gaza
Did you intentionally effectively undo one of my citation format changes here at line 250? If so, I formatted it that way for a reason, because it's a pleading in a court case. If you're trying to maintain consistency, consider, which also deviates a bit from the usual citation templates' format to use legal citation style, in accordance with at least the Chicago Manual of Style (that's the one I'm actually experienced with and can directly attest to, I hesitate to generalize about other style guides). (This is also just a bit too unusual of a citation [ICJ, ongoing, and still too early for even the orders to have been published in the ICJ reporter] to use that template; believe me, that was the first thing I reached for.)  Kinsio  ( talk  ★  contribs ) 16:27, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I did go ahead and reverse your re-addition of the New York Times "Read the ICJ ruling" source from the same edit. There's nothing on that page except an embed of the same PDF that's in the direct citation to the ICJ website that you kept.  Kinsio  ( talk  ★  contribs ) 16:39, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
 * My apologies, I'm less familiar with citing legal proceedings, I've adapted it to the cite court template. If I've got anything wrong in the template, please correct it. -- Cdjp1 (talk) 16:43, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
 * It's still not quite right but I need to leave for church and it's not unusably broken or anything, just not in the proper format. I'll fix it when I get back, but I'd also like to explain to you why I think trying to force it into is more confusing than helpful, if you'd be willing to indulge me.  Kinsio  ( talk  ★  contribs ) 17:04, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Feel free to. -- Cdjp1 (talk) 17:22, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Oh my god, well for one thing, I was just looking back over what I said and I realized how consider sounds 😭 What I was actually trying to say was that demonstrates that it's normal to deviate from the usual citation format into a specifically legal citation format when you're citing court cases, based on how it's different from the typical CS1 style. It was probably so confusing when I said that, you tried your best to make it work, and then I said "actually  sucks" LOL. I'm so sorry. This is ultimately good though, because that  usage has gotten me to realize that even if it is normal to deviate to a legal citation format, in those citations I wrote I was sticking a bit too strictly to specifically Bluebook format, with stuff like the dates for instance. (So I can still use this to improve the consistency of my citations.) I can still give that explanation if you'd like but the point of it was mostly going to be to justify not using  since I wasn't sure why you did, but now that I realize I just phrased stuff weirdly and you misunderstood me I'm not so sure that it's necessary.  Kinsio  ( talk  ★  contribs ) 18:50, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

Edit summary
I also noticed that your edit summary for the edit we discussed didn't appear to adequately describe the change you made. Specifically, your edit summary didn't reflect your deletion of He further added, "We have been accustomed to genocidal rhetoric that comes from Hamas...", which is a pretty significant change not to mention. I'm investigating and trying to figure out what I want to do about the edits introducing and reintroducing that passage and it would've been much easier to navigate if I didn't have to figure out that the deletion was tucked away in an edit summarized as formatted some of the references. Just try to keep that in mind in the future, thanks :)  Kinsio  (talk ★ contribs ★ rights) 00:41, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

Settler colonialism
I see you reverted to an inaccurate description of ‘settler colonialism’. Not sure why. ‘Settler colonialism’ is an academic theory. By definition, ‘settler colonialism’ is not something that occurs; rather, it is a theory used by _some_ scholars to _describe_ something that occurs. It is not a thing or a fact; it’s a sociological theory.

I don’t have time for Wikipedia edit battles so I won’t be commenting further, but it’s odd to see Wikipedia editors fail to grasp such elementary distinctions. Kotzker (talk) 16:45, 3 July 2024 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure this is the case. Does our article on andesite say "Andesite is a human-made classification for certain types of rocks depending on its formation and silica content"? or "Genocide is a sociological theory invented by Raphael Lemkin and a legally defined crime according to the Genocide Convention"? (t &#183; c)  buidhe  15:32, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

In case
... my edit summary at Holodomor was ambiguous: I don't want to discourage you from improving the reference formatting, but please fix your script so that it doesn't introduce hundreds of meaningless whitespace changes, as that makes reviewing the change history effectively impossible. That would be much appreciated. Thank you! Gawaon (talk) 18:58, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

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Genocide Sidebare
Hello, I came across the back and forth on two different version of the side bar. There is the original longstanding version and the proposed one you reinstated here. Though looking at the talk page, it doesn’t seem consensus was reached on changing to the new version you reverted to. Despite both sides of the aisle saying “see talk page” in their edit diffs. Seems like an edit war going on.

Is there going to be a RFC to decide between the two versions? And until then shouldn’t the original version remain until the results are in?

It is causing confusion as with the current version, the sidebar is being removed from all originally listed Genocide example articles listed prior since all those events are removed in the new proposed version. Cheers. OyMosby (talk) 15:59, 6 July 2024 (UTC)


 * From my reading of the discussion, there is greater support for not listing any genocides in the sidebar, based largely on the argument that it crosses over into OR. The " " template currently uses different logic, and has a more expansive list than the sidebar had, so that may help. In discussing with other editors over the inclusion of the sidebar, there are the articles Genocides in history and List of genocides, as well as the  (and it's subcategories), where if there is any argument that an event is genocidal in nature, it should be added to the category. -- Cdjp1 (talk) 16:33, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

Removing space before slash in tags
Just curious because I noticed part of the "formatting" you did in your latest edit to Gaza genocide was removing spaces before the slash in self-closing ref tags of existing citations: is that considered bad? The only straight(ish) answer I could get from googling around is that the only reason it's ever been necessary is for compatibility in XHTML documents, per this Stack Overflow question (well, one answer claims that [t]he proper way to do it is without the extra space as this is something XHTML inherited from XML, but I don't really follow the logic of how that would make either way more or less "proper").  Kinsio  (talk ★ contribs ★ rights) 20:42, 7 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Not really any reason. -- Cdjp1 (talk) 20:57, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

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Centro Universitario de la Guardia Civil
I created a draft here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:El_Centro_Universitario_de_la_Guardia_Civil_(Spain) Your comment welcome Timpo (talk) 16:21, 21 July 2024 (UTC)