User talk:Cecmiddlecollege

File permission problem with File:Fred N Thomas CEC Middle College of Denver.jpg
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The Photograph in Question was taken by a faculty member at the school. We are both on the yearbook committee together and I have equal rights to use the photograph since it is for our school use. While I was not the one who pushed the button on the camera, the photograph is my property.

May 2013
Welcome to Wikipedia. I noticed that the username you have chosen, "Cecmiddlecollege", seems to imply that you are editing on behalf of something other than yourself. Please note that you may not edit on behalf of a company, group, institution, product, or website, and Wikipedia does not allow usernames that are promotional or accounts that are shared. If you are willing to use a personal account, please take a moment to create a new account or request a username change that represents only yourself as an individual. You should also read our Conflict of interest guideline and Plain and simple conflict of interest guide, and remember that promotional editing is not acceptable regardless of the username you choose. If you believe that your username does not violate our policy, please leave a note here explaining why. Thank you. Danger High voltage! 11:42, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

Okay, maybe I did not follow the correct procedure here, but this is an entry for a public high school, not a business, not a corporation. It sounds like an advertisement because I had the students create it and they are proud of their school. We are unlike any other public school in Colorado, but this is a Denver Public school. We are not trying to profit, we are simply trying to keep up with the other schools in the Denver Public Schjool district. If you read the content and you were unable to tell that this is a school and not a business, then once we are unblocked I will have the kids fix that. This is not meant to be promotional, it is meant to be informative, and we felt we had done so.

I used a generic username because I had 30 kids writing this entry and I wanted something generic they could all log into without forgetting it. I appreciate the strict guidelines and I understand the need for them, but the actual content of the page should have been self-explanatory.

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Okay, so here's the deal:
I set up this project with the idea that it would be safest to create the entry in the sandbox and have all the kids work together in one place so we could get a rough draft out together first. Then, I would change the password and the A and B kids would be the ones motivated enough to log in on their own and add the polish and finishing touches to the entry. This made sense to me because if all the kids in the class signed up for new accounts you would then have at least 15 teenagers running around doing dumb things. It also seemed to me that I could not have multiple accounts log into my sandbox and I did not think it wise to have the entry live until we had hammered out the main sections. This may not have been the correct procedure, but I was unable to find a truly helpful guide on "How to create your High School Wikipedia Entry" anywhere in the Help section. As it was, we cobbled together what we could by reading and borrowing ideas from other schools in our district. I did what I thought would keep the site safe from roaming teenagers and I created a procedure that seemed like the safest and most effective way to go about doing this assignment. This was their final project in their Literacy and Digital Citizenship class and I am still getting emails about it from the kids. Do what you need to to keep things safe, but right now I cannot do anything with this entry because my account is blocked and I cannot edit it under another username since it has been denied it for being too much like an advertisement.

If I let this account go and create a new one, It does me no good because I do not have a live entry I can fix. I cannot fix the entry because my username is blocked.
Someone needs to compromise with me here please. I would really appreciate it if someone would actually help me instead of just shutting me down. I'm one of the few school librarians in our district who encouraged the use of wikipedia for certain things and right now I am really frustrated and I'm ready to tell the kids I was wrong about that and they should listen to the English teacher instead.

Your submission at Articles for creation
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It is my hope that my responses to the concerns have been addressed and the page can now be unblocked. This is a high school page, not a business. This was a school project on informative writing, digital citizenship, and using online sources responsibly. These kids worked hard to do this right.

Your submission at Articles for creation: Fred N. Thomas Career Education Center Middle College of Denver
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I understand your concerns. However, this is not a business, it is a high school. We needed to get our initial draft up so the kids could log in and make changes as needed. I attempted to addreww some of your concerns about the lack of variety in the referencees, but because I am blocked from doing so, I am unable to make the necessary changes to the entry.

Okay, so here's the deal:
I set up this project with the idea that it would be safest to create the entry in the sandbox and have all the kids work together in one place so we could get a rough draft out together first. Then, I would change the password and the A and B kids would be the ones motivated enough to log in on their own and add the polish and finishing touches to the entry. This made sense to me because if all the kids in the class signed up for new accounts you would then have at least 15 teenagers running around doing dumb things. It also seemed to me that I could not have multiple accounts log into my sandbox and I did not think it wise to have the entry live until we had hammered out the main sections. This may not have been the correct procedure, but I was unable to find a truly helpful guide on "How to create your High School Wikipedia Entry" anywhere in the Help section. As it was, we cobbled together what we could by reading and borrowing ideas from other schools in our district. I did what I thought would keep the site safe from roaming teenagers and I created a procedure that seemed like the safest and most effective way to go about doing this assignment. This was their final project in their Literacy and Digital Citizenship class and I am still getting emails about it from the kids. Do what you need to to keep things safe, but right now I cannot do anything with this entry because my account is blocked and I cannot edit it under another username since it has been denied it for being too much like an advertisement.

If I let this account go and create a new one, It does me no good because I do not have a live entry I can fix. I cannot fix the entry because my username is blocked.
Someone needs to compromise with me here please. I would really appreciate it if someone would actually help me instead of just shutting me down. I'm one of the few school librarians in our district who encouraged the use of wikipedia for certain things and right now I am really frustrated and I'm ready to tell the kids I was wrong about that and they should listen to the English teacher instead.
 * Hello, my name is Howicus, and I just want to let you know that someone heard your concerns. I believe that you were in fact trying to create a good-quality article.  However, the policy on shared accounts WP:NOSHARE is very clear that each account should only be used by one person.  I'm no admin, so I can't unblock you myself.  What I'd suggest is that you have all the students create Wikipedia accounts.  If any of them cause trouble, they can be reverted or blocked as needed.  I think Assignments for student editors might be helpful to you as well.  I think I'll talk to the administrator who blocked you about it.  Howicus (talk) 17:35, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

I understand that I made that mistake. I appreciate your input Howicus. I don't mind being blocked as much as I do not being able to fix the article so the kids can do exactly what you said: Make their own accounts and edit.
 * Hi. When you post on talk pages, please sign with four ~ things - it's how we get the neat little sigs and datestamps. OK. Have a look at my talk page where Howicus has been taking up your case. When you get going again, let me know so I can remember who you are then. (That'll make more sense later...) Anyway, this can be regarded as more use than a straightforward nothing going wrong exercise. You all now know a bit more about how we work, and that things are patrolled (so anyone getting ideas about being silly will realise that it gets found out...). Howicus can probably explain how the place works better than I can. (I go around being nasty...) Peridon (talk) 19:08, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
 * BTW Some of our admins are known to be teenagers - others possibly have concealed it better. I think we had one bureaucrat who was 18 at the time of election. So long as yours are aware that getting blocked for a username mistake is not as bad as getting blocked for vandalism, things should be OK. Peridon (talk) 19:14, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Just so you know, barring special circumstances, anyone can edit any page on Wikipedia, including draft pages and sandboxes. Thus, each of your students could edit the draft article with their own account without difficulty. Danger High voltage! 19:20, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

What to do from here
Ok, so what I think you should do now is this: Any other questions, just ask. Howicus (talk) 19:32, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
 * 1) Create a new account
 * 2) Post on the user page of both accounts to make it clear that you're the same person, and that you're no longer using this account
 * 3) Have all the students create accounts
 * 4) Read up on Wikipedia's policies, starting with the simplified rules at WP:SR and going from there. Have the students look them over, too.
 * 5) Also check out Education program/Educators
 * 6) Start editing! Consider moving Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Fred N. Thomas Career Education Center Middle College of Denver to a subpage of you new account.  That'll give you not only a new place for the article, but also a talk page for your students to discuss changes to the article.

Cecmiddlecollege (talk) 14:21, 11 June 2013 (UTC)Thank you for the advice and helpful links. I feel less frustrated and more willing to proceed now. I will do my best to proceed appropriately and I will bookmark the page on student projects so I can offer it to other interested teachers.

Your submission at Articles for creation: Fred N. Thomas Career Education Center Middle College of Denver
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The page has been edited. Would like to resubmit. Sudihope (talk) 15:02, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Username is no longer being used.
I have created a new account that will not be shared and I will no longer be using this account. Cecmiddlecollege (talk) 21:39, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

I apparently need help. How do I submit this for publication now? Sudihope (talk) Cecmiddlecollege (talk) 15:01, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

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