User talk:Ceepronin

I would like to clarify John Frankenheimer's comments about the screenwriting credits for Ronin. In a statement made in Variety on September 23, 1998 (p.21) John Frankenheimer wrote:

"Over the last few weeks a number of unfortunate statements have been made about the screenwriting credits on my upcoming film for United Artists, "Ronin." I wish to set the record straight on this matter because these statements do not accurately reflect the facts.

J.D. Zeik is unequivocally entitled to the first position screenwriting credit as well as the sole story credit he was awarded by the WGA. "Ronin" was created by J.D. His screenplay attracted me and the actors and got the project green-lit.

Furthermore, it has been publicly stated that the screenwriting arbitration process over "Ronin" was a contentious one, which in fact that is not the case. The arbitration process for "Ronin" occurred without any acrimony whatsoever, and to the best of my knowledge, the final credit determination was unanimous.

J.D. Zeik deserves recognition for his significant contribution to this film, and I am proud to have worked with him."



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I tried Googling the Variety article from where you got the claim stating that J.D. Zeik deserved screenwriting credit, but my search yielded no results. Can you post the entire text of the piece, as well as its title, author, and date of publication? Tks,  Slightlymad  (talk &sdot; contribs) 04:39, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

It's not clear to me how to respond here... The Frankenheimer statement was in the form of an open letter published in Variety. I attached a jpeg of the page in my original post. The entire text is posted above. Ceepronin (talk) 12:14, 20 December 2018 ceepronin (UTC)
 * If it's an image file, just upload it at Imgur or similar image hosting site and link it here. I still kinda need the author, title, and date of publication of the article who reported Frankenheimer's statement, though. Tks,  Slightlymad  (talk &sdot; contribs) 13:23, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

Here is a link to the statement. It is not an article, but an open letter signed by John Frankheimer, in Variety published September 23, 1998 on page 21. Frankenheimer is the author. https://imgur.com/a/11TeuIS ceepronin Ceepronin (talk) 13:42, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Instead of removing the paragraph altogether, I just expanded on Frankenheimer's statement citing the image you provided. I fear that some editor would just reinsert it to the article since not many are aware of the fact that Frankenheimer denied depriving Zeik shared screenwriting credit for the movie. Thanks a lot. Tks,  Slightlymad  (talk &sdot; contribs) 15:34, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

Thank you. Although if you are going to include this quote, "The credits should read: 'Story by J.D. Zeik, screenplay by David Mamet'. We didn't shoot a line of Zeik's script," then it would only be fair if you include a quote from Frankenheimer's open letter as well, such as "J.D. Zeik is unequivocally entitled to the first position screenwriting credit as well as the sole story credit he was awarded by the WGA." Or take out "We didn't shoot a line of Zeik's script." Otherwise, the quote comes through more strongly than Frankerheimer's denial of it. I appreciate your taking care of this. ceepCeepronin (talk) 15:52, 20 December 2018 (UTC)